Supporting PETA is supporting Terror

admin — Sun, 02 May 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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Regarding your spew against PETA. I do agree that they are NOT so much for animal as they are for terrorist tactics. However, I would advise you to check your spelling when you post such a diatribe as yours so your complaints can be viewed as more legitimate. Next, i would suggest that everyone read up on PETA’s activities through the Freedom Of Information Act. They have donated thousands of dollars towards the defense fund of a convicted terrorist who had killed 1-2 people. Several officers of the company hav used medicines obtained from animal testing and defended their right to that medicine. I would also watch Penn & Teller’s episode about PETA in their Bullsh*t series on, I believe, HBO.

It’s called trolling goob, the misspells are deliberate where it helps. The PETARs are all to eager to get into it and make asses of themselves.

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Actually, everyone that lives in the US and pays taxes is a terrorist. Our government is the biggest terrorist group in this country; therefore, if you pay taxes, you are financially supporting terrorism. I did the right thing. I screwed up and had a couple of kids, but knowing that those children would grow up to be taxpayers, I deep fryed them and served em up at a nearby homeless shelter. I was so happy to be able to supply a few days worth of food for people who so badly needed it. Now I’m just working on getting my neighbors’ kids alone.

*giggle* (:D)

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Cat ownership supports terrorism, peta supports terrorism, you are all traitors to America. How do you live with yourselves?

Very easily actually because aparantly I’m a lot more informed than you are . Perhaps you don’t get Showtime. PETA wants to give all animals rights, and also make it illegal for people to own pets. Which in PETA’s picture you’ll see them posing there with either their pets or just pets that were brought in for the photo shoot. Ironic they want to look so chummy with them they turn them loose on the streets like that. There’s an interesting show on Showtime done by Pen and Teller called Bullshit. They did a peice on PETA. Had you seen it you’d actually know what your talking about instead of spouting garbage. (well except the part about PETA supporting terror, you are right about that) Here’s an interesting fact for you, of the pets that PETA rescued, they put to sleep 75% of those pets, and put them in a huge freezer that they own. Hrm….who’s the Terrorist? Use who own pets? Or PETA who demonstrates against animal centers who have to put violent animals to sleep because if they put them back out on the street again they would hurt guess who – people. They also pay arsonist to destroy medical knowledge just because they use things like rats to test it on. Well hrm…considering the VP of PETA uses medication that has animal by-products in it for her diabetes and she’s all for this destruction of the very company research that’s used to cure her? I find this a little hyprocritical myself. So I suggest some folks do some research. I have nothing against people being vegetarians, or being activists or being pet lovers, I do have a problem with PETA acting as an activism group when everything I said above is 100% true. Go do some digging and you’ll find out for yourself. Oh and PETA also says that 300 peices of plants and animals a day are becoming exitinct. If that were the case, this would be one very dead planet real quick. Yet PETA can’t account for these species dying off or show any records for them. Hrm…odd. Hence why I never spend a dime on PETA, never will either. – Leigh You can flame away but it’ll fall on deaf ears, I’ve said my peace.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually, everyone that lives in the US and pays taxes is a terrorist. Our government is the biggest terrorist group in this country; therefore, if you pay taxes, you are financially supporting terrorism. I did the right thing. I screwed up and had a couple of kids, but knowing that those children would grow up to be taxpayers, I deep fryed them and served em up at a nearby homeless shelter. I was so happy to be able to supply a few days worth of food for people who so badly needed it. Now I’m just working on getting my neighbors’ kids alone. Even when trying to be humorous, vegans can’t help but display their ultimate hatred of people. Why is that? Listen, asshat, I have family members that have died in the military. You think I want another brat supporting that kind of terrorism?

Yep, only a hate filled loon would call dead family members terrorists. Too bad you are just too predictable, killer. You have nothing to defend your lys and delusions, so you just spew your ignorance and hatred around. Typical vegan dodge…. No, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and that’s why I eat children. As for myself, I don’t pay taxes. I have a string of sugar daddies (mostly hardcore drug dealers, pimps, and mafiosos) at my beck and call, so that I don’t have to support our government. And my regular diet consists of rocks, homeless people, anything in the "free" ads on CraigsList. I once picked up a piano and ate for months! HA! My lifestyle is superior to yours….na na na na na…

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yap yap yap, you are a traitor.

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So you admit that you are a traitor, a tax cheat or a terrorist? Or all of the above.

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Maybe it just appears that way to you peTTer because you are unloved by man and beast alike. Anyone who suggests that people should love bunnies etc. enough not to harm or eat them is obviously a reminder of your own unloved status, and that makes you act out by squealing "They hate us! They LY! They’re killers!"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually, everyone that lives in the US and pays taxes is a terrorist. Our government is the biggest terrorist group in this country; therefore, if you pay taxes, you are financially supporting terrorism. I did the right thing. I screwed up and had a couple of kids, but knowing that those children would grow up to be taxpayers, I deep fryed them and served em up at a nearby homeless shelter. I was so happy to be able to supply a few days worth of food for people who so badly needed it. Now I’m just working on getting my neighbors’ kids alone. Even when trying to be humorous, vegans can’t help but display their ultimate hatred of people. Why is that? Maybe it just appears that way to you peTTer because you are unloved by man and beast alike.

Not all all unloved, fool. Anyone who suggests that people should love bunnies etc. enough not to harm or eat them is obviously a reminder of your own unloved status,

Again, you have problems with reading comprehension, do.t you brainless? No where was the above example about loving bunnies, it was about killing children. I guess your hatred of people has you so enured of that already that it just went right over your head, eh killer? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and that makes you act out by squealing "They hate us! They LY! They’re killers!"

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actually it appears he woke up and quit funding state terrorism by finding a means of not having to pay taxes and in a manner that is legal in the government’s eyes. I think he’d be called a patriot.(and probably a damn good cook!)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually, everyone that lives in the US and pays taxes is a terrorist. Our government is the biggest terrorist group in this country; therefore, if you pay taxes, you are financially supporting terrorism. I did the right thing. I screwed up and had a couple of kids, but knowing that those children would grow up to be taxpayers, I deep fryed them and served em up at a nearby homeless shelter. I was so happy to be able to supply a few days worth of food for people who so badly needed it. Now I’m just working on getting my neighbors’ kids alone. So you admit that you are a traitor, a tax cheat or a terrorist? Or all of the above. actually it appears he woke up and quit funding state terrorism by finding a means of not having to pay taxes and in a manner that is legal in the government’s eyes. I think he’d be called a patriot.(and probably a damn good cook!)

the word is tax cheat. Do you cook cats or just skin them?

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Hmmm….declaring dependents is tax cheating? You really are a twisted little shitmonkey.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually, everyone that lives in the US and pays taxes is a terrorist. Our government is the biggest terrorist group in this country; therefore, if you pay taxes, you are financially supporting terrorism. I did the right thing. I screwed up and had a couple of kids, but knowing that those children would grow up to be taxpayers, I deep fryed them and served em up at a nearby homeless shelter. I was so happy to be able to supply a few days worth of food for people who so badly needed it. Now I’m just working on getting my neighbors’ kids alone. Even when trying to be humorous, vegans can’t help but display their ultimate hatred of people. Why is that? Maybe it just appears that way to you peTTer because you are unloved by man and beast alike. Not all all unloved, fool. Anyone who suggests that people should love bunnies etc. enough not to harm or eat them is obviously a reminder of your own unloved status, Again, you have problems with reading comprehension, do.t you brainless? No where was the above example about loving bunnies, it was about killing children. I guess your hatred of people has you so enured of that already that it just went right over your head, eh killer?

Just keep squealing "they hate us, they hate us!!!" Maybe someday, somewhere, someone will listen to you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and that makes you act out by squealing "They hate us! They LY! They’re killers!"

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snippage… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone who suggests that people should love bunnies etc. enough not to harm or eat them is obviously a reminder of your own unloved status, Again, you have problems with reading comprehension, do.t you brainless? No where was the above example about loving bunnies, it was about killing children. I guess your hatred of people has you so enured of that already that it just went right over your head, eh killer? Just keep squealing "they hate us, they hate us!!!" Maybe someday, somewhere, someone will listen to you.

Maybe someday, somewhere you’ll actually have something to say of any imporatnce… I’m not holding my breath though, since we already know you don’t have anything…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and that makes you act out by squealing "They hate us! They LY! They’re killers!"

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Listen, asshat, I have family members that have died in the military. You think I want another brat supporting that kind of terrorism? No, and that’s why I eat children. As for myself, I don’t pay taxes. I have a string of sugar daddies (mostly hardcore drug dealers, pimps, and mafiosos) at my beck and call, so that I don’t have to support our government. And my regular diet consists of rocks, homeless people, anything in the "free" ads on CraigsList. I once picked up a piano and ate for months! HA! My lifestyle is superior to yours….na na na na na…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually, everyone that lives in the US and pays taxes is a terrorist. Our government is the biggest terrorist group in this country; therefore, if you pay taxes, you are financially supporting terrorism. I did the right thing. I screwed up and had a couple of kids, but knowing that those children would grow up to be taxpayers, I deep fryed them and served em up at a nearby homeless shelter. I was so happy to be able to supply a few days worth of food for people who so badly needed it. Now I’m just working on getting my neighbors’ kids alone. Even when trying to be humorous, vegans can’t help but display their ultimate hatred of people. Why is that? Maybe it just appears that way to you peTTer because you are unloved by man and beast alike. Anyone who suggests that people should love bunnies etc. enough not to harm or eat them is obviously a reminder of your own unloved status, and that makes you act out by squealing "They hate us! They LY! They’re killers!"

True; I heard his mother came home with a ferret once when Rick was just a wee baby. The ferret took Rick’s crib, while poor little Ricky had to sleep in the garage. Then when he was older, he came on to the family dog once and was horribly rejected. I don’t think he ever got over that.

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Even when trying to be humorous, vegans can’t help but display their ultimate hatred of people. Why is that?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you support Peta, if you believe niavely these are people who are interested in saving animals from cruelty, you are dangerously niave. These people place the rights of your cookable feline above those of your children. [...] According to the Associated Press (AP) PETA killed 1325 dogs and cats in Norfolk last year. That was more than half the number of animals is took in during that period. According to Virginian-Pilot Reporter, Kerry Dougherty, the execution rate at PETA’s "shelter" far exceeds that of the local Norfolk SPCA shelter where only a third of animals taken in are "put down." [...] http://www.iwmc.org/newsletter/2000/2000-08g.htm

I Don't Know Her!

admin — Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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"Neal Feldman" wrote in message

news:Wd6dnZN7A7_64ond4p2dnA@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > news:10ZQb.434$w41.408669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > "Neal Feldman" wrote in message > > news:OPKdnRjSKs7C0YndRVn-jA@comcast.com… > > > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > > > news:kFxQb.11959$O22.7744823@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > > > "bobb" wrote in message > > > > news:xtxQb.22928$i4.6107@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… > > > > > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > > > > > news:Z2MOb.9384$OM2.3196502@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > > > > > "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > > > > > > news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > > > > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > > > > > > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > > > > > > > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > > > > > > > and you said he was in jail? > > > > > Where is Neal.. he was interesting.. and fun. > > > > http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/dbClient > > > > Neal H Feldman > > > > Corrections > > > > Neal.H.Feld…@state.or.us > > > > I don’t think it’s a jail… more like a prison. > > > > ;-P > > > > Dan > > > Won’t reach me there, Delusional Dan… That was my email when on > > assignment > > > as a temp at Santiam Correctional Institute a medium security prison as > > the > > > administrative assistant to the Asst Director of the facility. > > Well maybe you should have them remove your name. > > As I said, more like a prison. > > > There is a difference between those working there as state employees > > (those > > > with email addys like the one you pointed out) and being an inmate > > (usually > > > NOT having such email addy). > > I didn’t say you were an inmate, did I? > You have implied such and never recanted, Delusional Dan.

Excuse me, but the writer or speaker implies… and I never have. You may have erroneously inferred from what I said… but that’s not my fault. > > > Like mail, prisoners generally do not have unrestricted communications > > with > > > the outside world. > > > But then again this has been explained to you many times, Delusional > Dan, > > Citations, please. > Been there, done that, as others here will attest.

Your "cadre" of losers? > I have better things to do, Delusional Dan, than play your ‘chase your tail’ > games. > > That Y2K section on your website real popular, neal? > > And yer guest book! > Irrelevant as ever, eh Delusional Dan? Guest book does not get many hits > when the ISP is screws up and does not properly forward as it is supposed > to. And please show where in the y2k page I was innaccurate.

I didn’t say it was inaccurate. I simply asked (since the material has been irrelevant for years) if it still was popular, didn’t I? > I said it was > much ado about nothing and was proven right… so why do I need to update > it? Hmmmm?

I didn’t say you should "update" it, did I? > > > ONE person signed in ALL of 2002. > So what, Delusional Dan? > I hit hundreds of sites daily and cannot recall the last I signed a > guestbook on.

I’ve heard Ginko Biloba helps. Can you get Ginko Biloba in prison? > Interesting… you seem to have gone there and did not sign either…

hmmmm. Would you like a note from me? > Just more for the list of all that is irrelevant about Delusional Dan, eh?

I’m just the first person in 2004 who won’t bother. Maybe of you say "please." > > > And THREE in ALL of 2003. > See above. > > You couldn’t get ANYONE from your "cadre of dedicated informants" to post > > even ONCE in TWO YEARS??? > You presume I actively TRY and get folks to post.

Well, if you’ve been TRYING you are quite unsuccessful at it, aren’t you? > I guess that is yet > another way we differ, Delusional Dan. I have the site up to help others, > not to egotistically promote myself… so I do not care if folks leave guest > entries or not, I just leave them the opportunity to do so.

And you’ve helped so many people only four in TWO YEARS have seen fit to drop you a line. And one was Dennis Deakin! > > Sheeesh! > Sheesh what, Delusional Dan? Trying to figure how to make yourself even > more irrelevant than you already have? > > > snipped.> > Indeed? And what idiocy would that be, Delusional Dan? What dishonesty? > What delusion? I made statements of information. Please show which, if any > were, as you claim, ‘idiotic’, ‘delusional’ or ‘dishonest’ Delusional Dan.

You wrote "Been there, done that, as others here will attest." No information… just yer usual BS. Yer usual idiotic, delusional dishonest statement, neal, isn’t it? > I guess that is the problem with an ignorant babboon such as yourself > attempting to emulate a sentient being such as myself.. you can parrot the > actions of the sentient, but my dear babboon, your clear lack of intellect > and comprehension is clearly apparent in the obviously non sequitur aspects > of such activities on your part, as well as your clear limitations.

How’s prison, neal? You working in the library? > When I use that properly against you, I am in fact referring to actual > dishonesty, delusion and braying idiocy on your part, Delusional Dan.

Citations, please. > Unlike you in this case where you simply type the letters without the > legitimacy of context. > But then again, Delusional Dan, why would this surprise anyone regarding > your lunatic antics in this newsgroup? You are consistent in that at least. > Thank you for once again updating the proof of the 100% accuracy and > legitimacy of my nickname for you as well as everything I have ever had to > say regarding you.

When are you getting out, neal?

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"Neal Feldman" wrote in message

news:c6SdnTImteZ2G4ndRVn-vA@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > news:EPYQb.362$w41.361614@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > "Neal Feldman" wrote in message > > news:Q9-dnW44PP6Z14ndRVn-ug@comcast.com… > > > Where am I, eh? > > > Salem, Oregon, same as always. > > > Going on a trip to Phoenix AZ next month if anyone local to there wants > to > > > say hi. > > > Ever since Comcast took over my ISP ATTBI and radically reduced > services, > > > including news service, I have not been as active as before… also > > finding > > > other outlets for my time with one daughter graduated and a couple more > > > heading that way, their entering the workforce, looking at driving, and > so > > > on. > > > Enough to make one feel old. > > > As one of my daughters let me know a bit ago at my 42nd birthday, Daffy > > you > > > ARE old. Gee thanks kid. > > > As usual I look in here from time to time to see what the Gestapo CPS > > > apologists and activists like Delusional Dan, MoRon Mitty, Selfrighteous > > Sue > > > and the like are up to and to laugh at their feeble antics promoting > their > > > their anti-family fascist agenda. > > > They never let me down. > > > Thanks, too, to my cadre of dedicated informants who make sure I don’t > > miss > > > anything important. You know who you are and your efforts are > > appreciated. > > > Well, still not in jail much to the chagrin of Delusional Dan an Co who > > > caanot seem to tell the difference between working a temp job in a > prison > > as > > > an admin asst and actually being incarcerated there having been > convicted > > of > > > a crime. Ah well, seems the fools still never learn. > > Gee, neal, all I said was where you were. > > Not what you were doing there. > You said I was in jail, Delusional Dan,

Gee, neal, not that I recall. Maybe you could show me where I did.

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"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message

news:zVGQb.16988$O22.10728372@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > news:35120b16.0401241904.331bd186@posting.google.com… > > Dan wrote > > > http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/dbClient > > … > > > I don’t think it’s a jail… more like a prison. > > Dan posted a bogus contact for what he stated. > > Oregon DOC uses this URL. WHY DID DAN LIE? > > WHAT WAS the bogus URL page Dan referred to? > > http://www.doc.state.or.us/faq/online_inmate_infor.shtml > > FAQ – Online Inmate Information > > Inmate information is not yet available over the internet. > > We hope to put our database online, but other priorities > > have prevented us from doing so as yet. > > mary.l.NOSPAMsolomonNOS…@state.or.us will look > > an inmate up for you if you care to e-mail her. > Go to, http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/employee.html > The results from the original search didn’t show the actual search criteria > in the URL, so you have to insert the criteria. > First name, last name, then click the radio button for [e-mail]. > And notice that the URL is what I originally posted.

Right, Delusional Dan…. Not found. Why could that be I wonder… Could it be that, as I stated, it was a temporary gig through a temp agency that ended long before you did the search? Could it be that I doubt temps are ever entered into that database? Hmmmmm…. Poor poor Delusional Dan, proven illegitimate and irrelevant once again… Seems you use the same research ‘methodologies’ as the likes of Ann Coulter…maybe even worse.

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"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message

news:EPYQb.362$w41.361614@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Neal Feldman" wrote in message > news:Q9-dnW44PP6Z14ndRVn-ug@comcast.com… > > Where am I, eh? > > Salem, Oregon, same as always. > > Going on a trip to Phoenix AZ next month if anyone local to there wants to > > say hi. > > Ever since Comcast took over my ISP ATTBI and radically reduced services, > > including news service, I have not been as active as before… also > finding > > other outlets for my time with one daughter graduated and a couple more > > heading that way, their entering the workforce, looking at driving, and so > > on. > > Enough to make one feel old. > > As one of my daughters let me know a bit ago at my 42nd birthday, Daffy > you > > ARE old. Gee thanks kid. > > As usual I look in here from time to time to see what the Gestapo CPS > > apologists and activists like Delusional Dan, MoRon Mitty, Selfrighteous > Sue > > and the like are up to and to laugh at their feeble antics promoting their > > their anti-family fascist agenda. > > They never let me down. > > Thanks, too, to my cadre of dedicated informants who make sure I don’t > miss > > anything important. You know who you are and your efforts are > appreciated. > > Well, still not in jail much to the chagrin of Delusional Dan an Co who > > caanot seem to tell the difference between working a temp job in a prison > as > > an admin asst and actually being incarcerated there having been convicted > of > > a crime. Ah well, seems the fools still never learn. > Gee, neal, all I said was where you were. > Not what you were doing there.

You said I was in jail, Delusional Dan, when in fact I never have spent a day in jail in my entire life and you have yet to produce any proof to the contrary. But like your heroes in Gestapo CPS you constantly play apologist for, Delusional Dan, since when has lacking evidence supporting your lies and BS ever stopped you?

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"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message

news:GjEQb.16527$O22.9903392@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message > news:20040124184636.454$fO@newsreader.com… > > "bobb" wrote: > > I think Neal has mentioned that he occasionally works (as in employed,e.g. > > career for Corrections in Oregon.) But…if you (or anyone) wants to email > > him and ask him yourself his email is: neal.feld…@stopbotcomcast.net > > remove^^^^^^^stopbot. > > Delusional Dan only wishes Neal was incarcerated because Neal was the > first > > one to catch on to Dan’s dishonest and delusional cps Gestapo > Apologist-ism > > tactics and call attention to it. > Actually neal claimed for a year that he had posted information that putting > hot sauce in a child’s mouth for punishment was permissable by Law.

And it is, Delusional Dan, no matter how much effort you put into denying reality. Already proven. Also proven by the fact that if it were NOT legal the hysterical hyenas such as yourself who continue to howl your braying idiocy on the point would have had me convicted of a crime by now. But that never happened, now did it? Kinda proves it right there, Delusional Dan. > When neal FINALLY reposted the story it was about a police officer who lost > his job and ruined his career over punishing his girlfriend’s child with hot > sauce.

Again your dishonesty shows again Delusional Dan. He lost his job because of the attacks against him for doing so, not because it was illegal or he was not entirely within his parental rights as the courts eventually ruled. All that occurred while the case was in court. Legion are cases of someone falsely accused whose life is torn apart until (and sometimes even after) they have been acquitted. Last I checked criminal conviction for child abuse involves prison time, not being fired from one’s job. As usual, and as I pointed out many times in the past, you merely read without comprehension (or, for that matter, intellectual honesty) until you found something you thought you could hang your lies on. The point was that he won in court, it was rules not only not child abuse but in fact well within the purview of legitimate parentak rights. However because of hysterical hyenas and unreasonable nitwits such as yourself he and his family was harmed. Harmed not by his legitimate exercise of his legitimate parental rights, but instead by the illegitimate application of your brand of fascist idiocy attempting to micromanage the families of others without legitimate authority, justification and right. No wonder you are so obviously a Gestapo CPS apologist as I pointed out so long ago and as more and more realize every post you make, Delusional Dan. > > .e. Neal was right) He wiped up the Net with Dan and retired gracefully > Disappeared with no notice to anyone.

Was I required to notify you or something, Delusional Dan? My what an unjustifiably high opinion you seem to have of yourself, Delusional Dan. heh heh I refused to take your bait and play your ‘chase your tail’ games. Seems to have really burned in your gut, huh Delusional Dan, so much that months if not years later you still are raging about it? How pathetic!

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"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message

news:10ZQb.434$w41.408669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Neal Feldman" wrote in message > news:OPKdnRjSKs7C0YndRVn-jA@comcast.com… > > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > > news:kFxQb.11959$O22.7744823@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > > "bobb" wrote in message > > > news:xtxQb.22928$i4.6107@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… > > > > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > > > > news:Z2MOb.9384$OM2.3196502@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > > > > "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > > > > > news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > > > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > > > > > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > > > > > > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > > > > > > and you said he was in jail? > > > > Where is Neal.. he was interesting.. and fun. > > > http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/dbClient > > > Neal H Feldman > > > Corrections > > > Neal.H.Feld…@state.or.us > > > I don’t think it’s a jail… more like a prison. > > > ;-P > > > Dan > > Won’t reach me there, Delusional Dan… That was my email when on > assignment > > as a temp at Santiam Correctional Institute a medium security prison as > the > > administrative assistant to the Asst Director of the facility. > Well maybe you should have them remove your name. > As I said, more like a prison. > > There is a difference between those working there as state employees > (those > > with email addys like the one you pointed out) and being an inmate > (usually > > NOT having such email addy). > I didn’t say you were an inmate, did I?

You have implied such and never recanted, Delusional Dan. > > Like mail, prisoners generally do not have unrestricted communications > with > > the outside world. > > But then again this has been explained to you many times, Delusional Dan, > Citations, please.

Been there, done that, as others here will attest. I have better things to do, Delusional Dan, than play your ‘chase your tail’ games. > That Y2K section on your website real popular, neal? > And yer guest book!

Irrelevant as ever, eh Delusional Dan? Guest book does not get many hits when the ISP is screws up and does not properly forward as it is supposed to. And please show where in the y2k page I was innaccurate. I said it was much ado about nothing and was proven right… so why do I need to update it? Hmmmm? > ONE person signed in ALL of 2002.

So what, Delusional Dan? I hit hundreds of sites daily and cannot recall the last I signed a guestbook on. Interesting… you seem to have gone there and did not sign either… hmmmm. Just more for the list of all that is irrelevant about Delusional Dan, eh? > And THREE in ALL of 2003.

See above. > You couldn’t get ANYONE from your "cadre of dedicated informants" to post > even ONCE in TWO YEARS???

You presume I actively TRY and get folks to post. I guess that is yet another way we differ, Delusional Dan. I have the site up to help others, not to egotistically promote myself… so I do not care if folks leave guest entries or not, I just leave them the opportunity to do so. > Sheeesh!

Sheesh what, Delusional Dan? Trying to figure how to make yourself even more irrelevant than you already have? >

snipped.> Indeed? And what idiocy would that be, Delusional Dan? What dishonesty? What delusion? I made statements of information. Please show which, if any were, as you claim, ‘idiotic’, ‘delusional’ or ‘dishonest’ Delusional Dan. I guess that is the problem with an ignorant babboon such as yourself attempting to emulate a sentient being such as myself.. you can parrot the actions of the sentient, but my dear babboon, your clear lack of intellect and comprehension is clearly apparent in the obviously non sequitur aspects of such activities on your part, as well as your clear limitations. When I use that properly against you, I am in fact referring to actual dishonesty, delusion and braying idiocy on your part, Delusional Dan. Unlike you in this case where you simply type the letters without the legitimacy of context. But then again, Delusional Dan, why would this surprise anyone regarding your lunatic antics in this newsgroup? You are consistent in that at least. Thank you for once again updating the proof of the 100% accuracy and legitimacy of my nickname for you as well as everything I have ever had to say regarding you.

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"Neal Feldman" wrote in message

news:OPKdnRjSKs7C0YndRVn-jA@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > news:kFxQb.11959$O22.7744823@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > "bobb" wrote in message > > news:xtxQb.22928$i4.6107@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… > > > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > > > news:Z2MOb.9384$OM2.3196502@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > > > "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > > > > news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > > > > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > > > > > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > > > > > and you said he was in jail? > > > Where is Neal.. he was interesting.. and fun. > > http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/dbClient > > Neal H Feldman > > Corrections > > Neal.H.Feld…@state.or.us > > I don’t think it’s a jail… more like a prison. > > ;-P > > Dan > Won’t reach me there, Delusional Dan… That was my email when on assignment > as a temp at Santiam Correctional Institute a medium security prison as the > administrative assistant to the Asst Director of the facility.

Well maybe you should have them remove your name. As I said, more like a prison. > There is a difference between those working there as state employees (those > with email addys like the one you pointed out) and being an inmate (usually > NOT having such email addy).

I didn’t say you were an inmate, did I? > Like mail, prisoners generally do not have unrestricted communications with > the outside world. > But then again this has been explained to you many times, Delusional Dan,

Citations, please. That Y2K section on your website real popular, neal? And yer guest book! ONE person signed in ALL of 2002. And THREE in ALL of 2003. You couldn’t get ANYONE from your "cadre of dedicated informants" to post even ONCE in TWO YEARS??? Sheeesh!

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"Neal Feldman" wrote in message

news:Q9-dnW44PP6Z14ndRVn-ug@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Where am I, eh? > Salem, Oregon, same as always. > Going on a trip to Phoenix AZ next month if anyone local to there wants to > say hi. > Ever since Comcast took over my ISP ATTBI and radically reduced services, > including news service, I have not been as active as before… also finding > other outlets for my time with one daughter graduated and a couple more > heading that way, their entering the workforce, looking at driving, and so > on. > Enough to make one feel old. > As one of my daughters let me know a bit ago at my 42nd birthday, Daffy you > ARE old. Gee thanks kid. > As usual I look in here from time to time to see what the Gestapo CPS > apologists and activists like Delusional Dan, MoRon Mitty, Selfrighteous Sue > and the like are up to and to laugh at their feeble antics promoting their > their anti-family fascist agenda. > They never let me down. > Thanks, too, to my cadre of dedicated informants who make sure I don’t miss > anything important. You know who you are and your efforts are appreciated. > Well, still not in jail much to the chagrin of Delusional Dan an Co who > caanot seem to tell the difference between working a temp job in a prison as > an admin asst and actually being incarcerated there having been convicted of > a crime. Ah well, seems the fools still never learn.

Gee, neal, all I said was where you were. Not what you were doing there.

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"Greg Hanson" wrote in message

news:35120b16.0401241904.331bd186@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dan wrote > > http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/dbClient > … > > I don’t think it’s a jail… more like a prison. > Dan posted a bogus contact for what he stated. > Oregon DOC uses this URL. WHY DID DAN LIE? > WHAT WAS the bogus URL page Dan referred to? > http://www.doc.state.or.us/faq/online_inmate_infor.shtml > FAQ – Online Inmate Information > Inmate information is not yet available over the internet. > We hope to put our database online, but other priorities > have prevented us from doing so as yet. > mary.l.NOSPAMsolomonNOS…@state.or.us will look > an inmate up for you if you care to e-mail her.

Go to, http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/employee.html The results from the original search didn’t show the actual search criteria in the URL, so you have to insert the criteria. First name, last name, then click the radio button for [e-mail]. And notice that the URL is what I originally posted.

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Dan wrote > http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/dbClient … > I don’t think it’s a jail… more like a prison.

Dan posted a bogus contact for what he stated. Oregon DOC uses this URL. WHY DID DAN LIE? WHAT WAS the bogus URL page Dan referred to? http://www.doc.state.or.us/faq/online_inmate_infor.shtml FAQ – Online Inmate Information Inmate information is not yet available over the internet. We hope to put our database online, but other priorities have prevented us from doing so as yet. mary.l.NOSPAMsolomonNOS…@state.or.us will look an inmate up for you if you care to e-mail her.

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"nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message

news:20040124184636.454$fO@newsreader.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "bobb" wrote: > > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > > news:Z2MOb.9384$OM2.3196502@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > > "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > > > news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > > > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > > > > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > > > > and you said he was in jail? > > Where is Neal.. he was interesting.. and fun. > > bobb > Hi Bobb, Neal is a great guy. He’s still at his home, helping Families, of > course. Working with Pam and Will and other groups. Writing articles (some > I’ve posted here)

Since he left? Citations, please. > tivism, same old Neal. I talk with him occasionally. He > pretty much burnt out on the flamers here (his intellect being a tad more > selective) and (imo) focuses much more on his Daughter’s Educations and > Family Rights Issue’s that prove more productive than the gratuitous humor > provided here at ASCPS by Kane, Dan and Ron. (I myself do just the same > sometimes.) His site is still up, http://home.comcast.net/~neal.feldman/ > (He got moved over to comcast, which he is not to happy about last I > heard.) He has had some exchanges with the ever lying Dan Sullivan, (via > email) that Dan is not telling you about.

The email I sent neal said "Test." neal replied "Passed." That is the TOTAL extent of mine and neal’s emails. There I told you. > (LOL,I only need a couple more > personal emails from whoever it is that goes by the name of "dan sullivan." > before my legal team takes action) Public Notice.

Hoo – freakin -RAAAAAYYYYYY! I hope whoever it is send you thousands of emails and you try and sue me for it!!!!! > Yea, I save them all.

Prove it! Post ‘em. > Yes > I think Neal has mentioned that he occasionally works (as in employed,e.g. > career for Corrections in Oregon.) But…if you (or anyone) wants to email > him and ask him yourself his email is: neal.feld…@stopbotcomcast.net > remove^^^^^^^stopbot. > Delusional Dan only wishes Neal was incarcerated because Neal was the first > one to catch on to Dan’s dishonest and delusional cps Gestapo Apologist-ism > tactics and call attention to it.

Actually neal claimed for a year that he had posted information that putting hot sauce in a child’s mouth for punishment was permissable by Law. When neal FINALLY reposted the story it was about a police officer who lost his job and ruined his career over punishing his girlfriend’s child with hot sauce. > .e. Neal was right) He wiped up the Net with Dan and retired gracefully

Disappeared with no notice to anyone. Not even his "friends." > d with something the waffleman will never > know: RESPECT! I feel no sorrow for dan sullivan now, nor…will I ever. > ROTFLU!

The bride still giving it away FOR FREE, Dennis???

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"bobb" wrote in message

news:xtxQb.22928$i4.6107@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > news:Z2MOb.9384$OM2.3196502@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > > news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > > > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > > > and you said he was in jail? > Where is Neal.. he was interesting.. and fun.

http://www.state.or.us/cgi-bin/dbClient Neal H Feldman Corrections Neal.H.Feld…@state.or.us I don’t think it’s a jail… more like a prison. ;-P Dan

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"bobb" wrote: > "Dan Sullivan" wrote in message > news:Z2MOb.9384$OM2.3196502@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > > "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > > news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > > > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > > > and you said he was in jail? > Where is Neal.. he was interesting.. and fun. > bobb

Hi Bobb, Neal is a great guy. He’s still at his home, helping Families, of course. Working with Pam and Will and other groups. Writing articles (some I’ve posted here) activism, same old Neal. I talk with him occasionally. He pretty much burnt out on the flamers here (his intellect being a tad more selective) and (imo) focuses much more on his Daughter’s Educations and Family Rights Issue’s that prove more productive than the gratuitous humor provided here at ASCPS by Kane, Dan and Ron. (I myself do just the same sometimes.) His site is still up, http://home.comcast.net/~neal.feldman/ (He got moved over to comcast, which he is not to happy about last I heard.) He has had some exchanges with the ever lying Dan Sullivan, (via email) that Dan is not telling you about.(LOL,I only need a couple more personal emails from whoever it is that goes by the name of "dan sullivan." before my legal team takes action) Public Notice. Yea, I save them all. Yes I think Neal has mentioned that he occasionally works (as in employed,e.g. career for Corrections in Oregon.) But…if you (or anyone) wants to email him and ask him yourself his email is: neal.feld…@stopbotcomcast.net remove^^^^^^^stopbot. Delusional Dan only wishes Neal was incarcerated because Neal was the first one to catch on to Dan’s dishonest and delusional cps Gestapo Apologist-ism tactics and call attention to it.(i.e. Neal was right) He wiped up the Net with Dan and retired gracefully and with something the waffleman will never know: RESPECT! I feel no sorrow for dan sullivan now, nor…will I ever. ROTFLU! Free. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I never said that and you know it, jughead. > > > Or your credentials? > > My successes are my qualifications.. > > And you’ve read about many of them first hand. > > > Or when asked what pleadings you suggest? > > Kill yerself, Greg. > > Kill yerself, Greg. > > Kill yerself, Greg. > > My three favorite pleadings.

– "..and that you may never experience the humility that the power of the American Government has reduced me to, is the wish of him, who, in his native forests, was once as proud and bold as yourself." Blackhawk 1833

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"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message

news:Z2MOb.9384$OM2.3196502@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net… > "Greg Hanson" wrote in message > news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > > and you said he was in jail?

Where is Neal.. he was interesting.. and fun. bobb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I never said that and you know it, jughead. > > Or your credentials? > My successes are my qualifications.. > And you’ve read about many of them first hand. > > Or when asked what pleadings you suggest? > Kill yerself, Greg. > Kill yerself, Greg. > Kill yerself, Greg. > My three favorite pleadings.

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Awe, Come on Dan and Kane, tell me how you REALLY feel.

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On 20 Jan 2004 00:43:13 -0800, Gree…@hotmail.com (Greg Hanson) wrote: >Awe, Come on Dan and Kane, tell me how you REALLY feel.

You missed it then? Figgers. Kane

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On 19 Jan 2004 16:52:23 GMT, familyfree@(nospam)cpswatchlive.com wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Gree…@hotmail.com (Greg Hanson) wrote: >> What Cops Know: >> Four Words That Could Save Your Child’s Life > >> Practice yelling those four words with your child. "I don’t know her!" >> Talk about the right times to do this. And tell him it’s okay to >> fight, bite and scratch while he’s screaming. > Hi Greg, nice advice. I feel the whole article is very prudent parenting > advice. Our family uses a some similar methods. Body language, hand > signals, queue reading, certain whistles. Especially if we are out on one > of our wilderness outings, fishing, bird watching or foraging trips in the > deep woods. As a family we tend to see much more nature in it’s natural > surrounding if we aren’t out there making more noise than a marching band. > It also (imo) teaches a type of nice discipline, and builds a tranquil > type of camaraderie with-in the family team. The key here is > communication, and teaching early is always best. And it really is > possible for them to occasionally get Mom and Dad the slip in the store. > (I really don’t care much for those impromptu ‘hide & seek’ games between > the racks of dresses and lingerie, it sometimes raise to many eye brows > from other customers.Lol) > As for the teaching the "fight, bite and scratch." To me, there is an > interesting part of of good article. I suppose some (not all) would > disagree as it contradicts the "never" hit others philosophy. I agree > with Ex-Officer Moore, I mean when you are talking abductors, kidnappers, > and my child’s life, suddenly (imo) there becomes no "Grey" area, it’s > about survival. Great article Greg! Thanks for posting it I’ve shared it >with several others already. Free.

How would you have advised the little girl that found herself naked in the bathroom with her mother’s boyfriend forced to take a cold shower as punishment for wetting herself? Should SHE have screamed and kicked and bit and scratched? If not, why not? She didn’t "know" him. He was a stranger her mother brought home? Her mother betrayed her by leaving him alone with her. Allowing him to spank her. To shampoo her naked in the shower. Figger it out, dummy. He was "grooming." The court sure caught on, thankfully, as did g’pa who busted his face good for him. It’s only you moral cretins that seem to think he’s just a swell but misunderstood guy, who has had to, because of the job market, sit on his ass for three FUCKIN’ years with nothing to do but whine on this ng. Give us your honest opinion, Leaky. Kane

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> > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!"

Like when Neal left the Newsgroup and you said he was in jail? Or your credentials? Or when asked what pleadings you suggest?

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"Greg Hanson" wrote in message

news:35120b16.0401182303.4aa684b7@posting.google.com… > > > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet? > > I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!" > Like when Neal left the Newsgroup > and you said he was in jail?

I never said that and you know it, jughead. > Or your credentials?

My successes are my qualifications.. And you’ve read about many of them first hand. > Or when asked what pleadings you suggest?

Kill yerself, Greg. Kill yerself, Greg. Kill yerself, Greg. My three favorite pleadings.

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"nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message

news:20040118204224.830$qB@newsreader.com… > "Dan Sullivan" wrote: > > "nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message

<<>> > > > Kane it’s you that is the child abusing pretending perv. remember? > > Remember what? > > Something you just made up, Dennis? > Hey caseworker, "thank-you" from those people you have chased away from > this newsgroup! They appreciate the inadvertant help from you! (-:

How’re things goin in Illinois, dipstick? Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet?

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"nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message

news:20040118210736.468$RA@newsreader.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Dan Sullivan" wrote: > > "nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message > > news:20040118204224.830$qB@newsreader.com… > > > "Dan Sullivan" wrote: > > > > "nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message > > <<>> > > > > > Kane it’s you that is the child abusing pretending perv. remember? > > > > Remember what? > > > > Something you just made up, Dennis? > > > Hey caseworker, "thank-you" from those people you have chased away from > > > this newsgroup! They appreciate the inadvertant help from you! (-: > > How’re things goin in Illinois, dipstick? > Let me guess…You don’t know? > LOL.

Laughing a lot? That’s what yer doin? > > Helped anyone prevail over CPS yet?

I’ll take your failure to answer as a "NO!!!"

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"nospam cpswatchlive.com" wrote in message

news:20040118182943.570$dI@newsreader.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pohakuyakok…@subdimension.com (Kane) wrote: > > On 18 Jan 2004 14:42:06 -0800, Gree…@hotmail.com (Greg Hanson) > > wrote: > > >What Cops Know: > > (but Greegor the Whore, The Plant, The Doananator, and Leaky don’t). > > >Four Words That Could Save Your Child’s Life > > >By Carole Moore > > >It’s not hard to stay safe. It doesn’t cost a lot of money. What it > > >does take is common sense, the ability to pay attention and awareness > > >of the right thing to do. Here’s what I mean: > > >You’re in the mall. A woman walks to the door of a store juggling a > > >screaming four-year-old. The kid’s in the middle of a tantrum, as the > > >red-faced mom tries to make her way to the car. > > >Or is she? > > >Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the woman isn’t related to > > >the child, and that she’s abducting him instead? > > >What if your own child wandered away from you and someone grabbed > > him? > > >Believe it or not there is something you can teach a child as young > > as > > >three or four to help him avoid abduction. Something he can remember > > >and execute in the space of the 60 or so seconds it takes for a > > >stranger to pick him up and walk out the door. Something so simple > > and > > >straightforward that you’ve most likely overlooked it. > > >Teach your child four simple words: "I don’t know her." > > >Practice yelling those four words with your child. "I don’t know > > her!" > > >Talk about the right times to do this. And tell him it’s okay to > > >fight, bite and scratch while he’s screaming. > > >Would you stop that woman if you saw her leaving with a child who was > > >screaming, "I don’t know her!" > > >You’d better believe you would. And so will others. > > >Now, you know what cops know. > > >Carole Moore worked the streets as a patrol officer, evidence > > >technician and criminal investigator for 12 years. She left law > > >enforcement in 1995 to become a full-time writer. She writes for > > >numerous publications geared toward professional law enforcement > > >officers. > > Essentially that is what the little girl in your case tried to do…to > > warn someone about you…went to the next door neighbor. > > Good for her. > > As for the situation described her, wouldn’t you, The Plant, > > Doananator, Leaky, be concerned about the possibility of PARENTAL > > LIBERTY INTERESTs being somehow denied. I mean, after all, YOU > > advocate, as well as The Plant (and I presume the "let them make up > > their own mind" bullshitter), that things like drugging your children > > without medical supervision, giving your church permission to suspend > > your children and beat them with objects, stuff hot pepper in their > > child’s mouth, are all LIBERTY INTERESTS…so gosh, maybe the child is > > just mouthing off and no one should intervent or investigate. > > Or if they do, CPS must leave the child with the person while the > > investigation ensues…right? Dummy? Dummy? Wake up Dummy? You are > > being called by our own citation, Dummy. > Kane it’s you that is the child abusing pretending perv. remember?

Remember what? Something you just made up, Dennis? > Damn if > I knew me whupping your ass so much in the "Hey Fern" thread was going to > have such a profound effect on you…I might have went a little easier on > you…Beav.

This is just like Furine declaring herself the winner. Dream on, jughead.

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On 18 Jan 2004 14:42:06 -0800, Gree…@hotmail.com (Greg Hanson) wrote: >What Cops Know:

(but Greegor the Whore, The Plant, The Doananator, and Leaky don’t). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Four Words That Could Save Your Child’s Life >By Carole Moore >It’s not hard to stay safe. It doesn’t cost a lot of money. What it >does take is common sense, the ability to pay attention and awareness >of the right thing to do. Here’s what I mean: >You’re in the mall. A woman walks to the door of a store juggling a >screaming four-year-old. The kid’s in the middle of a tantrum, as the >red-faced mom tries to make her way to the car. >Or is she? >Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the woman isn’t related to >the child, and that she’s abducting him instead? >What if your own child wandered away from you and someone grabbed him? >Believe it or not there is something you can teach a child as young as >three or four to help him avoid abduction. Something he can remember >and execute in the space of the 60 or so seconds it takes for a >stranger to pick him up and walk out the door. Something so simple and >straightforward that you’ve most likely overlooked it. >Teach your child four simple words: "I don’t know her." >Practice yelling those four words with your child. "I don’t know her!" >Talk about the right times to do this. And tell him it’s okay to >fight, bite and scratch while he’s screaming. >Would you stop that woman if you saw her leaving with a child who was >screaming, "I don’t know her!" >You’d better believe you would. And so will others. >Now, you know what cops know. >Carole Moore worked the streets as a patrol officer, evidence >technician and criminal investigator for 12 years. She left law >enforcement in 1995 to become a full-time writer. She writes for >numerous publications geared toward professional law enforcement >officers.

Essentially that is what the little girl in your case tried to do…to warn someone about you…went to the next door neighbor. Good for her. As for the situation described her, wouldn’t you, The Plant, Doananator, Leaky, be concerned about the possibility of PARENTAL LIBERTY INTERESTs being somehow denied. I mean, after all, YOU advocate, as well as The Plant (and I presume the "let them make up their own mind" bullshitter), that things like drugging your children without medical supervision, giving your church permission to suspend your children and beat them with objects, stuff hot pepper in their child’s mouth, are all LIBERTY INTERESTS…so gosh, maybe the child is just mouthing off and no one should intervent or investigate. Or if they do, CPS must leave the child with the person while the investigation ensues…right? Dummy? Dummy? Wake up Dummy? You are being called by our own citation, Dummy. Kane

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Proposed: Full Rights Amendment

admin — Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

"No person subject to the laws of the United States of America, or the laws of any state, shall be denied the rights, protections and privileges guaranteed by this Constitution."

1. NO WELFARE OR OTHER ENTITLEMENTS, OR ANYTHING ELSE, FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS. 2. As liberals now defy the Constitution, don’t count on reform concerning people’s rights under the Second Amendment, not only including prohibitions but "taxes" and procedures intended to infringe with acquiring and owning arms-related items. Will I be able to buy a suppressor (wrongly called by idiots a "silencer" even though the discharge merely is reduced to around 140 dB with a centerfire gun from higher levels, and which makes a handgun less concealable than without it) off the shelf, without any hassles except possibly for being asked for ID to verify my age? I doubt it, and if not, it shows hypocrisy by advocates of such an amendment. 3. This amendment amounts to little other than repeating the Fourteenth. (There is no basis for trying to get more goodies for illegal immigrants, other than to add to the number of such people who vote Democratic in elections.) The problem with the Fourteenth is that "equal protection" is highly abused by judicial activists, rather than insufficiently granting goodies to everyone by a Fairy Godmother. Dave Simpson

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It was asked: What makes you think non-citizens are deserving of the rights afforded by the constitution?

That way, more is annihilated by the Left, if not merely degraded. Dave Simpson

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"No person subject to the laws of the United States of America, or the laws of any state, shall be denied the rights, protections and privileges guaranteed by this Constitution."

Well, Nader has, after all, been among lefties calling for reduction of the voting age so that more children (of all ages) vote Green or Democrat, and an amendment like yours, more flowery than the Fourteenth, would guarantee real "children’s rights," even allowing for parents or guardians possibly the "right" to cast additional votes on behalf of their offspring who are, say, under age two. Dave Simpson

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The 14th Amendment addresses citizen rights. State and federal governments routinely deny Constitutional rights to non-citizens, from simple matters such as the right to representation at immigration hearings to the growing concern regarding "material witnesses" and "illegal combattants", citizen or no. I seek a way to correct these injustices.

It’s not unjust. There always has been a difference between citizens and non-citizens (except to those who want higher Democratic vote totals in elections). If you’re not a citizen, you are a guest, and still bound by the laws. End of issue. Whining about Guantanamo and being against the US here is pathological (diseased) behavior. Dave Simpson

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Hugh Gibbons See the 14th Amendment.

True. And, the Fourteenth Amendment has been woefully abused by left-wing activists to seek equal outcomes, etc., rather than equal opportunity or (true) rights (as opposed to entitlements). I’ve read some wacko "constitutional giant’s" writing that takes the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble (* snicker! *), and the Fourteenth Amendment and comes up with a legal argument for a guaranteed minimum income, etc.. Arrgh. Nonsense like that still exists, and the same legal "reasoning," too. (* gag *) This amendment is not only a repetition of the Fourteenth but is a Trojan horse for all kinds of nonsense, extended to illegal-immigrant entitlements and all the rest. (It is the destruction of citizenship and likely adulthood, and thereby the distinction between adult citizens and liberal-Democrat voters.) Leave out the gay-marriage and non-married-couple-equality stuff (destruction of marriage as is known and recognized by all but the activists); leave out the goodies for illegal aliens (a key objective of the Undermining Left); the issue can be construed as much broader than that when taken to its warped extremes, extended to everyone — aliens, children, everyone: http://lpa.igc.org/lpv12/lp7.html http://globalization.icaap.org/content/v3.1/10_declaration.html "Let’s make it mean whatever we want it to mean" (Lefty Magicians, LLC) http://www.americanconstitutionsociety.org/ Dave Simpson

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"No person subject to the laws of the United States of America, or the laws of any state, shall be denied the rights, protections and privileges guaranteed by this Constitution." 1. NO WELFARE OR OTHER ENTITLEMENTS, OR ANYTHING ELSE, FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS.

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Don’t trade with Cuba petition: http://www.xld.com/public/cuba/SOLUTIONS/corpus.htm Lillian http://xld.com/public/cuba/cuba.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [Distribution modified, includes groups for activism and the US Constitution] "No person subject to the laws of the United States of America, or the laws of any state, shall be denied the rights, protections and privileges guaranteed by this Constitution." It’s a Trojan horse. We already have equal rights granted by the Fourteenth Amendment, and they include equal protection under the law. "Privileges" is sneaky. I’m not so concerned about a gay marriage subterfuge as much as this may be a means for trying to invent all kinds of new entitlements and greatly expand the already too-swollen entitlement set that currently exists. There’s also the equality of outcomes or results dishonesty, for which the word "privileges" will be added to "rights" and "protections" as fodder for legal schemer-seditionists. Yuck. No thanks. Who is suggesting this, and why? ask the smarter and warier citizens. Dave Simpson

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[Distribution modified, includes groups for activism and the US Constitution] "No person subject to the laws of the United States of America, or the laws of any state, shall be denied the rights, protections and privileges guaranteed by this Constitution."

It’s a Trojan horse. We already have equal rights granted by the Fourteenth Amendment, and they include equal protection under the law. "Privileges" is sneaky. I’m not so concerned about a gay marriage subterfuge as much as this may be a means for trying to invent all kinds of new entitlements and greatly expand the already too-swollen entitlement set that currently exists. There’s also the equality of outcomes or results dishonesty, for which the word "privileges" will be added to "rights" and "protections" as fodder for legal schemer-seditionists. Yuck. No thanks. Who is suggesting this, and why? ask the smarter and warier citizens. Dave Simpson

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Israeli Separation Wall "Fatal Policy": Vanessa Redgrave

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Supporting PETA is supporting Terror

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Canadian troops out of the Mideast! – repost from '2000 alt activism

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