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I can't believe it!!

Question:

 I’m trying to develop  more varied interests. Riding crop would be optional of course. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aww shoot?  You like ‘em tattooed and pierced????  ; ) Daisy Aww shoot. Nope, not this woman!!  :) Daisy Kewl, getting tatooed and pierced Daisy? (As everyone knows Marilyn Manson is the skinny kid with glasses from wonder years.) My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944 — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

– "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

Response:

OK here is the naive Daisy showing here…what is Holst??

Gustav Holst, who is best known for his musical suite, The Planets. Graet classical stuff. Feel free to give it a listen. Daisy My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Indeed. It’s not my cup of tea, but so what ? That only means that it’s my choice not to listen to it. If you like it, then you like it, and that’s all that there is to it. What if your son started to listen to Holst ? <g Daisy

Andre — " The noblest achievement of the imagination is to make time run some other way, and terminate in beauty and forgivness "                                          David Gelernter, " 1939 "

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Hey I like classical music….I’ll do that thanks!  Holst, Marilyn Manson…..hey I’m easy!!  (not that way!!) Daisy alt.support.divorce Who’s Who: http://www.geocities.com/asddaisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK here is the naive Daisy showing here…what is Holst?? Gustav Holst, who is best known for his musical suite, The Planets. Graet classical stuff. Feel free to give it a listen. Daisy My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Indeed. It’s not my cup of tea, but so what ? That only means that it’s my choice not to listen to it. If you like it, then you like it, and that’s all that there is to it. What if your son started to listen to Holst ? <g Daisy Andre — " The noblest achievement of the imagination is to make time run some other way, and terminate in beauty and forgivness "                                          David Gelernter, " 1939 "

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Aww shoot?  You like ‘em tattooed and pierced????  ; ) Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aww shoot. Nope, not this woman!!  :) Daisy Kewl, getting tatooed and pierced Daisy? (As everyone knows Marilyn Manson is the skinny kid with glasses from wonder years.) My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944 — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

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I guess it depends on who I am talking to as to whether I turned out OK!!! Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – define ok hee hee hee hehe…if I remember right during MY teenage years it was SEX, DRUGS and ROCK AND ROLL.  I think I turned out OK!!  :) Daisy Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

Response:

Aw Ken that was so sweet!!  Thanks you bunches!!!!  You’re a special man in my book!!  ((hugs)) Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think you  turned out pretty well too.  And I’m sure glad you did. Your replys to my post are really important to me. If I thought you weren’t "well adjusted" I would just blow them off.  But you are, and I don’t.  Isn’t it great to be able to dialog and disagree without animosity and hostility? Wish I could do that at home. One of the contribing factors to the demise of my marriage. And you’re right the tunes "we" listed too had their own rebellious messages. But it isn’t the words themselves that makes me object, so much as it is, the legitimization of the callous, openingly hostile,  self serving detachment, I think. In the 60s, yes the songs trumpeted free love, getting high, rock and roll, but the message behind the words didn’t try to "exempt" us from our social responsibilities, it just asked us to look at them from a different angle and get involved, vs drop out and kill someone. And (in general) the worst thing that could happen with the sex was pregnancy or maybe the clap. Today it’s AIDS.  And only a real few people hung up on LSD or heroin. Mostly pot, a few pills, or cheap wine.  Today we have kids 9 to 12 with crack, crank, and other chemicals. We have kids being raised in crack houses or meth labs homes. We had a methlab here next door to a day care center. Had another blowup with the kids in residence inside.  And most of the rock and roll was aimed at burning your draft card, wearing your hair long, or going without a bra. (I didn’t really mind this one so much, being a guy ) NOT shooting your teachers, classmates, parents or a policeman. Daisy, with a caring mom like you, I know your son will be fine. Although I have concern for both of you, in your time of chaos, you are and have been a good parent. I agree thats whats our young people need. It’s the other sons and daughters that "don’t" have a caring parent. The kids that either one or both (if they have two parents) parents are too busy with life, carreer, sucess, the cabin on the lake, lover across town, too drunk, too defeated ect ect to give a damn about the kids on a daily basis. These kids, the ones with a huge hole in their life, begging for someone to care. They are listening to this stuff (and absorbing the emotion ,or lack of it) also, and are the ones that worry me.  If we learn nothing else from Columbine, all other episodes of severe child violence, and gang membership, we should learn that what is taking place is a cry of desperaton, a cry for some to come to their emotional rescue. You know the pain and abandonment we are feeling. Theirs isn’t so much different. You know I wish nothing but the best for you and your son. Thanks for being a great mom. Hope he does somthing really special for you next weekend. And in advance "Happy Mothers Day" from a dad that knows how important Moms are. Ken hehe…if I remember right during MY teenage years it was SEX, DRUGS and ROCK AND ROLL.  I think I turned out OK!!  :) Daisy Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

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define ok hee hee hee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hehe…if I remember right during MY teenage years it was SEX, DRUGS and ROCK AND ROLL.  I think I turned out OK!!  :) Daisy Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

– "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

Response:

My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!!

Indeed. It’s not my cup of tea, but so what ? That only means that it’s my choice not to listen to it. If you like it, then you like it, and that’s all that there is to it. What if your son started to listen to Holst ? <g Daisy

Andre — " The noblest achievement of the imagination is to make time run some other way, and terminate in beauty and forgivness "                                          David Gelernter, " 1939 "

Response:

OK here is the naive Daisy showing here…what is Holst?? Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Indeed. It’s not my cup of tea, but so what ? That only means that it’s my choice not to listen to it. If you like it, then you like it, and that’s all that there is to it. What if your son started to listen to Holst ? <g Daisy Andre — " The noblest achievement of the imagination is to make time run some other way, and terminate in beauty and forgivness "                                          David Gelernter, " 1939 "

Response:

I think you  turned out pretty well too.  And I’m sure glad you did. Your replys to my post are really important to me. If I thought you weren’t "well adjusted" I would just blow them off.  But you are, and I don’t.  Isn’t it great to be able to dialog and disagree without animosity and hostility? Wish I could do that at home. One of the contribing factors to the demise of my marriage. And you’re right the tunes "we" listed too had their own rebellious messages. But it isn’t the words themselves that makes me object, so much as it is, the legitimization of the callous, openingly hostile,  self serving detachment, I think. In the 60s, yes the songs trumpeted free love, getting high, rock and roll, but the message behind the words didn’t try to "exempt" us from our social responsibilities, it just asked us to look at them from a different angle and get involved, vs drop out and kill someone. And (in general) the worst thing that could happen with the sex was pregnancy or maybe the clap. Today it’s AIDS.  And only a real few people hung up on LSD or heroin. Mostly pot, a few pills, or cheap wine.  Today we have kids 9 to 12 with crack, crank, and other chemicals. We have kids being raised in crack houses or meth labs homes. We had a methlab here next door to a day care center. Had another blowup with the kids in residence inside.  And most of the rock and roll was aimed at burning your draft card, wearing your hair long, or going without a bra. (I didn’t really mind this one so much, being a guy ) NOT shooting your teachers, classmates, parents or a policeman. Daisy, with a caring mom like you, I know your son will be fine. Although I have concern for both of you, in your time of chaos, you are and have been a good parent. I agree thats whats our young people need. It’s the other sons and daughters that "don’t" have a caring parent. The kids that either one or both (if they have two parents) parents are too busy with life, carreer, sucess, the cabin on the lake, lover across town, too drunk, too defeated ect ect to give a damn about the kids on a daily basis. These kids, the ones with a huge hole in their life, begging for someone to care. They are listening to this stuff (and absorbing the emotion ,or lack of it) also, and are the ones that worry me.  If we learn nothing else from Columbine, all other episodes of severe child violence, and gang membership, we should learn that what is taking place is a cry of desperaton, a cry for some to come to their emotional rescue. You know the pain and abandonment we are feeling. Theirs isn’t so much different. You know I wish nothing but the best for you and your son. Thanks for being a great mom. Hope he does somthing really special for you next weekend. And in advance "Happy Mothers Day" from a dad that knows how important Moms are. Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hehe…if I remember right during MY teenage years it was SEX, DRUGS and ROCK AND ROLL.  I think I turned out OK!!  :) Daisy Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

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hehe…if I remember right during MY teenage years it was SEX, DRUGS and ROCK AND ROLL.  I think I turned out OK!!  :) Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

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 Which has been said about every generation’s music by the generation preceding it. I’m sure someone said the same thing about Mozart. For ever ‘bad’ kid you hear about there’s a hundred that are good.  Even the ones the like Manson.  TV ,music, internet etc do not determine how a child grows up, it’s mom and/or dad.  My daughter likes marilyn manson, korn (she was even invited backstage at one of korns concerts) she’s also  a member of 4h.  My son like me, loves horror movies slasher, sci fi. He also ushers at his grandparents church, helps collect and count the offering.  (Who knows someday It may be my son, the father) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

– "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

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 Marilyn Manson is not too much different then Alice Cooper. Different generation is all. Not that there was much decent music done after 1965. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

– "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

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 Aww shoot. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nope, not this woman!!  :) Daisy Kewl, getting tatooed and pierced Daisy? (As everyone knows Marilyn Manson is the skinny kid with glasses from wonder years.) My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

– "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

Response:

My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy

I am a 32 year old and I also like listening to Marilyn Manson.  Sure, some of the lyrics are offensive, but I don’t really listen for that. If you like the music, who cares? Greg Before you buy.

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I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.  I feel if you are a good parent and your child is a good kid then I don’t see any harm in words on a tape.  He probably hears these words everyday, but he knows by the way I raised him that I won’t put up with any bull I NEVER let my children listen to these things when they were small.  But he is 17 now and can make those decisions himself.  Of course he knows he does not play them when children are around!  :)  ((hugs)) Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

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Thanks Poopei. No disrepect for Daisy, I know from her posts she loves her son intensely! But, the lyrics are NOT what I would suggest for anyone, especially a child.  Everyone talks about legislation to stop school violence, but no body bothers to do anthing at the source "at home". With kids listening to this stuff and we wonder why it occurs?  I admit that political and social statement have their place in music. Hell, listen to the protest songs I grew up with in the 60s. But too much of todays stuff  If you can’t hum the melody I don’t call it music.) just supports destructive thought and behavior with no justification  or consideration for consequences, other than "You don’t approve so it must be great, I don’t give a damned about anyone else, and besides I think it feels good". Violence for the pleasure of it, rape, drugs. I think are occasions that we have to be a parent and not a buddy and say NO. This is one I tried to say NO to. I know I didn’t have control over my children when they weren’t home. But they knew where I stood and why. JMHO Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

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Don’t feel to bad Daisy, I thought Madonna was the last singer I would care to her until I heard "Like a Prayer". LOL I actually opened my ears and mind to the chance that she does have talent. But Marilyn Manson? Maybe? Bildo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy

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My son is 17 and an honor student…..was raised to know right from wrong, I have nothing to worry about in the least.  Don’t be so damn judgemental. Daisy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

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Nope, not this woman!!  :) Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kewl, getting tatooed and pierced Daisy? (As everyone knows Marilyn Manson is the skinny kid with glasses from wonder years.) My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

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 Kewl, getting tatooed and pierced Daisy? (As everyone knows Marilyn Manson is the skinny kid with glasses from wonder years.) My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy

– "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

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I’m taking my daughter to see Metallica, Korn, etc., for her birthday. I ordered the tickets and then immediately said "What the hell am I thinking?" She has no clue and will probably screech when she opens the gift. I’m not a big fan, but with the right earplugs, it’ll be fun.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nope, not this woman!!  :) Daisy Kewl, getting tatooed and pierced Daisy? (As everyone knows Marilyn Manson is the skinny kid with glasses from wonder years.) My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy — "Don’t spit into the well, you may have to drink the water"        old Polish proverb ICQ# 35013944

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My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy

I cant beelebe u wood listin to suche filth an allowe yer kid to listin to it to!!  HOwe olde iz yer kid? For aneewon hoo haznt herd M Mansin.  Hear ar sum of teh lyricss. Grate rolee madil  fer chillin eveewhere. Lunch Box: On we plow The big bully try to stick his finger in my chest Try to tell me, tell me he’s the best But I don’t really give a good goddamn cause I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me I got the pencils in my pocket, try to put me down Wanna go out, gotta get out To the playground, gonna throw down at the playground I wanna go out Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Next motherfucker gonna get my metal Pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow, pow pow pow I wanna grow up I wanna be a big rock and roll star I wanna grow up I wanna be So no one fucks with me

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My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!! Daisy

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My kid is listening to Marilyn Manson and I like it!!! YIKES!!

That’s what’s so funny about a lot of music, you listen to it and it’s only when you actually "see" the performer that you say "what???".   Something about judging the book by it’s cover???…. — Joe

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