When asked why she is critical of US foreign policy in a time of war Holly Near wrote:

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont be ridiculous. Chris Leithiser has extended the posting of private details to six year olds..and suggested a child be involved in Joe Parson’s pornography business. Who knows what possessed him to do such a disgusting thing but no URLs are needed. The threads with his subject lines are there for all to see including you. Jake, I looked and I could not find them. even though he is STILL posting them? I guess this never showed up for you either then What does the "this" refer to? All I see are headers. It referes to "Jane Doe’s" post showing that Chris Leithiser is still headlining an actual six year old child in the context of Joe Parsons pornography business. He is doing this in an attempt to terrorize her mother out of posting and is cashing in on damage already done by others sickening…

You expect too much if you expect the worlds leading defender of psycho pieces of shit to stop lying and denying the occurence of net abuse that is in black and white for all to see. Dr. Mark D. Morin has never demonstrated any willingness to accept irrefutable proof where such proof contradicts the way he wishes things were.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont be ridiculous. Chris Leithiser has extended the posting of private details to six year olds..and suggested a child be involved in Joe Parson’s pornography business. Who knows what possessed him to do such a disgusting thing but no URLs are needed. The threads with his subject lines are there for all to see including you. Jake, I looked and I could not find them. even though he is STILL posting them? I guess this never showed up for you either then What does the "this" refer to? All I see are headers. It referes to "Jane Doe’s" post showing that Chris Leithiser is still headlining an actual six year old child in the context of Joe Parsons pornography business.

And exactly what leap of logic is needed to come to this? I don’t see it Jake, I honestly don’t. By now I’d think i’d have some clue as to which "actual child" you are talking about–I don’t.

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Dont be ridiculous. Chris Leithiser has extended the posting of private details to six year olds..and suggested a child be involved in Joe Parson’s pornography business.

No, he didn’t.

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Jake, I looked and I could not find them.

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Dont be ridiculous. Chris Leithiser has extended the posting of private details to six year olds..and suggested a child be involved in Joe Parson’s pornography business. Who knows what possessed him to do such a disgusting thing but no URLs are needed. The threads with his subject lines are there for all to see including you. Jake, I looked and I could not find them.

even though he is STILL posting them? I guess this never showed up for you either then Liar. as Jake points out you have just done it again. Or do you claim this is not you? Xref: news alt.support.attn-deficit:301681 Path: newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!feeder.buzzardnews.com!news.as traweb.com!news-small.astraweb.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxi m!news-in-maxim.spamkiller.net!usc.edu!newshub.csu.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit Organization: CSUnet Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Host: host-243-68.bc.cc.ca.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en x– 100 Proof News – http://www.100ProofNews.com x– 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x– Access to over 800 Gigs/Day – $8.95/Month x– UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont be ridiculous. Chris Leithiser has extended the posting of private details to six year olds..and suggested a child be involved in Joe Parson’s pornography business. Who knows what possessed him to do such a disgusting thing but no URLs are needed. The threads with his subject lines are there for all to see including you. Jake, I looked and I could not find them. even though he is STILL posting them? I guess this never showed up for you either then What does the "this" refer to? All I see are headers. It referes to "Jane Doe’s" post showing that Chris Leithiser is still headlining an actual six year old child in the context of Joe Parsons pornography business. And exactly what leap of logic is needed to come to this?

none whatsoever…you ae quite capable of fiiling in the XXX’s "Jane Doe " had the decency to replace the name with or looking at google if your newsreader is mysteriously not showing his posts. After all blighting the child with archived filth is the purpose of the exercise isn’t it? I don’t see it Jake, I honestly don’t. By now I’d think i’d have some clue as to which "actual child" you are talking about–I don’t.

The same child whose bad parenting he has complained of with the usual sick threats to make malicious complaints to CPS. Thankfully pointless as she has a wonderful caring mother that all who know the actual situation( as opposed to sick fantasies ) is aware of. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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It referes to "Jane Doe’s" post showing that Chris Leithiser is still headlining an actual six year old child in the context of Joe Parsons pornography business. He is doing this in an attempt to terrorize her mother out of posting and is cashing in on damage already done by others sickening… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Liar. as Jake points out you have just done it again. Or do you claim this is not you? Xref: news alt.support.attn-deficit:301681 Path: newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!feeder.buzzardnews.com!news. astraweb.com!news-small.astraweb.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-ma xim!news-in-maxim.spamkiller.net!usc.edu!newshub.csu.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit Organization: CSUnet Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Host: host-243-68.bc.cc.ca.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en x– 100 Proof News – http://www.100ProofNews.com x– 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x– Access to over 800 Gigs/Day – $8.95/Month x– UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD

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granny Linda Channell alt.support.attn-deficit : Dont be ridiculous. Chris Leithiser has extended the posting of private details to six year olds..and suggested a child be involved in Joe Parson’s pornography business. No, he didn’t.

Yes you did you stupid scientologist

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What does the "this" refer to? All I see are headers. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Liar. as Jake points out you have just done it again. Or do you claim this is not you? Xref: news alt.support.attn-deficit:301681 Path: newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!feeder.buzzardnews.com!news.a straweb.com!news-small.astraweb.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-max im!news-in-maxim.spamkiller.net!usc.edu!newshub.csu.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit Organization: CSUnet Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Host: host-243-68.bc.cc.ca.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en x– 100 Proof News – http://www.100ProofNews.com x– 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x– Access to over 800 Gigs/Day – $8.95/Month x– UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Of course 99% of people think it disgusting when these scum start attacking the children of posters who disagree with their opinions. As far as I know, only Joe Parsons and I have been the subject of this in alt.support.attn-deficit. Clearly you suffer from selective perception then. If you disagree, please post the relevant URLs of the messages which show that I am wrong. Dont be ridiculous. Chris Leithiser has extended the posting of private details to six year olds..and suggested a child be involved in Joe Parson’s pornography business. Who knows what possessed him to do such a disgusting thing but no URLs are needed. The threads with his subject lines are there for all to see including you. Au contraire! The URL is necessary for you to prove your allegations. Without a URL you are merely a common liar.

The truth is the truth. Your choosing not to believe what is true, doesn’t alter the truth of the matter.

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s Gandhi said, "When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it always." – Mahatma Gandhi

just completely excellent

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been critical of US foreign and domestic policy since I was a child so my perspective is not surprising. Nor is it surprising that although the women’s movement has been trying to bring attention to the condition of women in Afghanistan for years, the US government was not interested or concerned until "US interests" were at stake and they could use the condition of women as one of their many rationalizations for waging war. Of course, as in Viet Nam, bombing the civilian population does not serve a people since the people we claim to help live under those bombs, trying to feed and calm their children. Quit spamming these newsgroups dork. Just completely a retread of the obvious arguments weve heard ad nauseum since the 60’s a tired and obvious example which gets backslaps from "your side" . the side you’re on.

Shawnie can’t stop it. It’s literally a disease for her. She can’t even see the Graeme Bacque-like mistake she made.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been critical of US foreign and domestic policy since I was a child so my perspective is not surprising. Nor is it surprising that although the women’s movement has been trying to bring attention to the condition of women in Afghanistan for years, the US government was not interested or concerned until "US interests" were at stake and they could use the condition of women as one of their many rationalizations for waging war. Of course, as in Viet Nam, bombing the civilian population does not serve a people since the people we claim to help live under those bombs, trying to feed and calm their children. Quit spamming these newsgroups dork. Just completely a retread of the obvious arguments weve heard ad nauseum since the 60’s a tired and obvious example which gets backslaps from "your side" . the side you’re on. Shawnie can’t stop it. It’s literally a disease for her. She can’t even see the Graeme Bacque-like mistake she made.

Isnt it strange how these netstalking scum like Leithiser tend to be warmongering scum too ..desperate for the deaths of others. Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build the big bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your masks You that never done nothin’ But build to destroy You play with my world Like it’s your little toy You put a gun in my hand And you hide from my eyes And you turn and run farther When the fast bullets fly Like Judas of old You lie and deceive A world war can be won You want me to believe But I see through your eyes And I see through your brain Like I see through the water That runs down my drain You fasten the triggers For the others to fire Then you set back and watch When the death count gets higher You hide in your mansion As young people’s blood Flows out of their bodies And is buried in the mud You’ve thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled Fear to bring children Into the world For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed You ain’t worth the blood That runs in your veins How much do I know To talk out of turn You might say that I’m young You might say I’m unlearned But there’s one thing I know Though I’m younger than you Even Jesus would never Forgive what you do Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy you forgiveness Do you think that it could I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul And I hope that you die And your death’ll come soon I will follow your casket In the pale afternoon And I’ll watch while you’re lowered Down to your deathbed And I’ll stand o’er your grave ‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead

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Shawnie can’t stop it. It’s literally a disease for her. She can’t even see the Graeme Bacque-like mistake she made. Isnt it strange how these netstalking scum like Leithiser tend to be warmongering scum too ..desperate for the deaths of others. It seems Chris Leithiser has the unstoppable obsession with stalking other posters. Turns out it is likely to cost him dearly

Of course 99% of people think it disgusting when these scum start attacking the children of posters who disagree with their opinions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x– 100 Proof News – http://www.100ProofNews.com x– 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x– Access to over 800 Gigs/Day – $8.95/Month x– UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD

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granny Linda Channell alt.support.attn-deficit : – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been critical of US foreign and domestic policy since I was a child so my perspective is not surprising. Nor is it surprising that although the women’s movement has been trying to bring attention to the condition of women in Afghanistan for years, the US government was not interested or concerned until "US interests" were at stake and they could use the condition of women as one of their many rationalizations for waging war. Of course, as in Viet Nam, bombing the civilian population does not serve a people since the people we claim to help live under those bombs, trying to feed and calm their children. Quit spamming these newsgroups dork. Just completely a retread of the obvious arguments weve heard ad nauseum since the 60’s a tired and obvious example which gets backslaps from "your side" . the side you’re on. Shawnie can’t stop it. It’s literally a disease for her. She can’t even see the Graeme Bacque-like mistake she made.

Who is Shawnee? Do you like your job at the University?

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Odd how people like him ..who take such pleasure in trying to destroy others lives through their postings …seem so shocked and outraged if THEIR details are revealed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -x– 100 Proof News – http://www.100ProofNews.com x– 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x– Access to over 800 Gigs/Day – $8.95/Month x– UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD

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99% of people think it disgusting when these scum start attacking the children of posters who disagree with their opinions.

Whose children, Linda?

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99% of people think it disgusting when these scum start attacking the children of posters who disagree with their opinions. Whose children,

any children you disgusting freak. Have you even a clue as to how vile normal people find you and your activities? Linda?

Oh right. She is another of your perverted obsessions isn’t she? High time a stop was put to your stalking of lone mothers and their children.

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Have you even a clue as to how vile normal people find you and your activities?

Are you offering yourself up as a "vile normal person," Linda?

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Have you even a clue as to how vile normal people find you and your activities? Are you offering yourself up as a "vile normal person," Linda?

listen up crackpot. I am no Linda and I will send the police to your door in a heartbeat

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Of course 99% of people think it disgusting when these scum start attacking the children of posters who disagree with their opinions.

As far as I know, only Joe Parsons and I have been the subject of this in alt.support.attn-deficit. If you disagree, please post the relevant URLs of the messages which show that I am wrong.

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Of course 99% of people think it disgusting when these scum start attacking the children of posters who disagree with their opinions. As far as I know, only Joe Parsons and I have been the subject of this in alt.support.attn-deficit.

Clearly you suffer from selective perception then. If you disagree, please post the relevant URLs of the messages which show that I am wrong.

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Au contraire! The URL is necessary for you to prove your allegations. Without a URL you are merely a common liar. Which is exactly the point isnt it? to drive away dissenting posters by threatening their children.

See above.

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LOL… still claiming not to see the threads ? You have been told before people are not going to repost minors details to prove some weird point to you and your chums . Which is exactly the point isnt it? to drive away dissenting posters by threatening their children. See above.

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I have been critical of US foreign and domestic policy since I was a child so my perspective is not surprising. Nor is it surprising that although the women’s movement has been trying to bring attention to the condition of women in Afghanistan for years, the US government was not interested or concerned until "US interests" were at stake and they could use the condition of women as one of their many rationalizations for waging war. Of course, as in Viet Nam, bombing the civilian population does not serve a people since the people we claim to help live under those bombs, trying to feed and calm their children. I have never condemned our children who are sent off to fight. My criticism of US policy is not a criticism of our young people in the military or their families. The best way to care for our children is to never send them off to fight. I do not want them to die for me. War is never good for children on any side of the battle. Freedom for all citizens on all sides of the battle does not come from military might, capitalism, nor from imperial strength. Rather, it requires wise and patient diplomacy, education, cultural exchange and economic assistance without dominance. Sometimes people feel they must pick up a gun to defend a village. Perhaps this is a different choice than when a nation is dedicated to be a world power. I have never lived in a village being attacked by a major power. But I saw what Viet Nam looked like when the US bombed that country "in order to save it". I have heard the tragic stories of the people of Panama when the US bombed neighborhoods and shoved the dead into mass graves. I understand when people from other parts of the world are stunned to see US citizens behave as if the attack on NYC was the first time civilians have ever been attacked. It seems people all over the world know that the US government has used the CIA and secret forces to undermine one struggling democracy after another, punishing those democratic governments who would not allow US business to continue as usual in their countries. Why don’t Americans remember this? The US is not the only nation that does terrible things. But the US is not exempt and I have no interest in supporting a world power. World powers and empires are not good for the world or for future generations. If a world power was growing somewhere else on the planet we would be concerned for our safety. In fact, the US government used that very concern to build up our massive defense systems. People all around the world are concerned for their safety because the US has become a dominating military and economic force that will not work cooperatively with other nations. For me, freedom at the expense of other citizens of the world as well as here at home is a questionable freedom. How many people should the US kill in order for some US citizens to have the comforts to which a small segment of our population has become accustomed. What is the right ratio? Criticism of power is not new. Martin Luther King loved humanity and so he criticized racism which meant he criticized the US domestic policy. When he understood what was happening in Viet Nam, he criticized that war. He wasn’t criticizing the thousands of black youth in the military being used for cannon fodder. He was trying to bring them home alive. Criticism of the government is a good thing. It is essential to maintaining civility. And when one starts to believe that one should follow the government mindlessly as it goes out of control, then one has failed the basic principles of democracy. A healthy government can withstand a healthy debate. A healthy government requires critical thinking. But if it has something to hide, it "discourages" criticism by any means and asks the people to support it unconditionally. After September 11th, Bush made it clear that all the nations of the world should be "behind us" and that nations were either "with us or against us". That is a shocking and insulting threat to the world. Here at home, there are many people who are afraid to voice their opinions at work for fear of being accused of being unpatriotic. Others sit unrepresented in jail because they "appear" or are of Arab decent. Bush has set up an open-ended state of war and makes it clear that criticism and dissent in this highly sensitive time will be viewed as a threat to national security. This is a frightening and dictatorial standard. A peace movement will grow from this historic tragedy, as it always does when events call on humanity to step up to clear thinking. Just as powerful nations have used tragedy to promote power hungry agendas, so will people dedicated to world-wide social justice movements rise in the smoke to take the next step towards higher consciousness and it is with them that I choose to walk in this world. As Gandhi said, "When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it always." – Mahatma Gandhi

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