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I’ve always wanted to meet someone from the deep south, you know the strong silent bigot type with nothing up top……perhaps you could email me sometime…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Del Travis used Al Franken’s Internet to post Israeli, U.S. Pacifists Injured In Anti-Wall Demo Qalqiliya, December 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Two Israeli and American pacifists protesting Israel’s erection of a separation barrier on the West Bank were wounded by Israeli gunfire Friday, December 26, one day ahead of a mass rally in this northern West Bank town to mark the ‘Resistance Day of the Wall". Israels should have run bulldozers over them! Who was the American? Name, hometown, and race please.
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Del Travis used Al Franken’s Internet to post Israeli, U.S. Pacifists Injured In Anti-Wall Demo Qalqiliya, December 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Two Israeli and American pacifists protesting Israel’s erection of a separation barrier on the West Bank were wounded by Israeli gunfire Friday, December 26, one day ahead of a mass rally in this northern West Bank town to mark the ‘Resistance Day of the Wall". Israels should have run bulldozers over them!
Who was the American? Name, hometown, and race please.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Israeli, U.S. Pacifists Injured In Anti-Wall Demo Qalqiliya, December 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Two Israeli and American pacifists protesting Israel’s erection of a separation barrier on the West Bank were wounded by Israeli gunfire Friday, December 26, one day ahead of a mass rally in this northern West Bank town to mark the ‘Resistance Day of the Wall". Israels should have run bulldozers over them! As long as the bulldozer operators didn’t damage the wall.
Yes, the wall is needed to spare children being murdered at the hands of Muslims – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Israeli, U.S. Pacifists Injured In Anti-Wall Demo Qalqiliya, December 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Two Israeli and American pacifists protesting Israel’s erection of a separation barrier on the West Bank were wounded by Israeli gunfire Friday, December 26, one day ahead of a mass rally in this northern West Bank town to mark the ‘Resistance Day of the Wall". Israels should have run bulldozers over them!
As long as the bulldozer operators didn’t damage the wall.
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A pacifist is someone very ignorant. Their brain does not function correctly. They cannot/will not hear anyone who tries to explain to them why this is so. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Israeli, U.S. Pacifists Injured In Anti-Wall Demo Qalqiliya, December 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Two Israeli and American pacifists protesting Israel’s erection of a separation barrier on the West Bank were wounded by Israeli gunfire Friday, December 26, one day ahead of a mass rally in this northern West Bank town to mark the ‘Resistance Day of the Wall". The incident came as some 400 Palestinians and 150 foreign activists, including Israeli pacifists, took part in the protest in the village of Masha, southeast of Qalqiliya and near the Jewish settlement of Elkana, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). The Israeli peace activist, named as Gil Naamati, was seriously wounded and had to undergo an operation, a hospital spokesman told AFP. The American woman pacifist, who was not identified, was lightly hurt. They were evacuated to Bellinson hospital near Tel Aviv, in northern Israel. Israeli troops threw teargas and then opened fire at the crowd which was tearing down a metal gate built into the barrier. Israeli military sources confirmed live bullets were used against the protestors and that two of them were wounded as a result. They said Israeli troops fired warning shots to disperse the crowd and then fired at protestors’ legs to stop them from making a hole in the gate. Limits Overstepped Israeli left-win Member of Knesset Yossi Sarid hit out at the trigger-happy Israeli troops, saying that they have overstepped limits. "By opening fire at demonstrators, Tsahal [the Israeli army] overstepped its boundaries," Sarid told the Israeli public radio. The protest came one day ahead of a planned march in Qalqiliya, which takes the brunt of the wall’s repercussions, marking a "Resistance Day of the Wall". Thousands of Palestinians along with foreign activists will take part in the mass rally amid fears that the demo would degenerate into another bloody clash with occupation troops, who threatened to open fire at the demonstrators. "It is a national day for the unfailing resistance of the residents of Qalqiliya," Mustafa al-Barghouthi, the secretary of a Palestinian NGO, told Al-Jazeera television. The Israeli government has come under an international chorus of criticism for pressing ahead with constructing the wall, which cuts off vast swathes of Palestinian land and will lead to severe humanitarian consequences for more than 680,000 Palestinians [30 percent], according to a new United Nations report. Palestinians call the barrier an "apartheid wall" which pre-empts the borders of their future state as its path does not strictly follow the West Bank occupied by Israel in 1967. The wall is slated for completion in 2005 and will stretch some 700 kilometers (450 miles). The first phase of the barrier was completed in July 2003 in the northern West Bank. The defiant Israeli government of Ariel Sharon approved last October a new 100-million-dollar section of the controversial barrier. A U.N. report underlined Tuesday, September 30, that the separation wall marked illegal annexation of Palestinian territory and must be condemned by the world community. http://islamonline.net/
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Israeli, U.S. Pacifists Injured In Anti-Wall Demo Qalqiliya, December 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Two Israeli and American pacifists protesting Israel’s erection of a separation barrier on the West Bank were wounded by Israeli gunfire Friday, December 26, one day ahead of a mass rally in this northern West Bank town to mark the ‘Resistance Day of the Wall".
Israels should have run bulldozers over them!
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Israeli, U.S. Pacifists Injured In Anti-Wall Demo Qalqiliya, December 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Two Israeli and American pacifists protesting Israel’s erection of a separation barrier on the West Bank were wounded by Israeli gunfire Friday, December 26, one day ahead of a mass rally in this northern West Bank town to mark the ‘Resistance Day of the Wall". The incident came as some 400 Palestinians and 150 foreign activists, including Israeli pacifists, took part in the protest in the village of Masha, southeast of Qalqiliya and near the Jewish settlement of Elkana, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). The Israeli peace activist, named as Gil Naamati, was seriously wounded and had to undergo an operation, a hospital spokesman told AFP. The American woman pacifist, who was not identified, was lightly hurt. They were evacuated to Bellinson hospital near Tel Aviv, in northern Israel. Israeli troops threw teargas and then opened fire at the crowd which was tearing down a metal gate built into the barrier. Israeli military sources confirmed live bullets were used against the protestors and that two of them were wounded as a result. They said Israeli troops fired warning shots to disperse the crowd and then fired at protestors’ legs to stop them from making a hole in the gate. Limits Overstepped Israeli left-win Member of Knesset Yossi Sarid hit out at the trigger-happy Israeli troops, saying that they have overstepped limits. "By opening fire at demonstrators, Tsahal [the Israeli army] overstepped its boundaries," Sarid told the Israeli public radio. The protest came one day ahead of a planned march in Qalqiliya, which takes the brunt of the wall’s repercussions, marking a "Resistance Day of the Wall". Thousands of Palestinians along with foreign activists will take part in the mass rally amid fears that the demo would degenerate into another bloody clash with occupation troops, who threatened to open fire at the demonstrators. "It is a national day for the unfailing resistance of the residents of Qalqiliya," Mustafa al-Barghouthi, the secretary of a Palestinian NGO, told Al-Jazeera television. The Israeli government has come under an international chorus of criticism for pressing ahead with constructing the wall, which cuts off vast swathes of Palestinian land and will lead to severe humanitarian consequences for more than 680,000 Palestinians [30 percent], according to a new United Nations report. Palestinians call the barrier an "apartheid wall" which pre-empts the borders of their future state as its path does not strictly follow the West Bank occupied by Israel in 1967. The wall is slated for completion in 2005 and will stretch some 700 kilometers (450 miles). The first phase of the barrier was completed in July 2003 in the northern West Bank. The defiant Israeli government of Ariel Sharon approved last October a new 100-million-dollar section of the controversial barrier. A U.N. report underlined Tuesday, September 30, that the separation wall marked illegal annexation of Palestinian territory and must be condemned by the world community. http://islamonline.net/
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That is what he gets for going to the aid of a terrorist
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mother fights Israel for answers The mother of a British peace activist shot in the head by Israeli soldiers says she will continue her fight to find justice for her son. Tom Hurndall, 22, a photographer from London was recording the work of a peace group in Rafah, Gaza when he came under fire from Israeli soldiers. He was shot on 11 April after going to help a Palestinian child when Israeli soldiers opened fire in the direction of the boy. Tom is severely brain damaged and lies in a London hospital where he is in a vegetative state and isn’t expected to recover. Jocelyn Hurndall, spoke to Aljazeera.net on the week that the family marked Tom’s 22nd birthday. She says that the entire family feels devastated by what has happened to Tom but they will keep pushing for answers from the Israeli government on how and why Tom was targeted. "We are following a long legal process to find out how Tom was injured. I want the Israeli soldiers responsible for harming Tom to know that they can’t shoot people with impunity. We want to pave the way for Palestinian people to have some legal redress when they are shot and injured by the Israeli army just like my son was". The family have hired a leading human rights lawyer Imran Khan to represent Tom and will be meeting Baroness Simmons, the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, in the next few weeks to discuss Tom’s case. Flashback Jocelyn Hurndall heard about her son’s injuries when her daughter, Sophie received a phone call from a British newspaper. "A journalist called the house and told Sophie the news. At that moment the world stopped, time stopped for me. I was distressed and knew that I needed to be with Tom so I arranged to travel out to Israel and see my son." She arrived in Israel two days after Tom was shot and made her way to the Saroka Hospital in Beer Sheva, Israel, where Tom had been taken after he was shot. "I will never forget that moment, I walked into the room where Tom was – he looked very, very bad and it was obvious that he was in a distressed state. There was a young Israeli woman who was sitting in the room with Tom, she turned to me and said ‘I’m so sorry for my country’ and then started crying". Gaza After spending two hours in the hospital with their son, Jocelyn and her husband traveled on to Rafah, to see the spot where Tom had come under fire from the Israeli army. "Being in Rafah, it was like Tom had been attacked all over again, seeing where he had been shot and where he had fallen. I was shocked and angry and emotional. "To this day I can’t believe how Palestinians are forced to live in Rafah, yet they showed us kindness and love and people shed tears with us and told us that they were praying for Tom." Jocelyn visited the child whom Tom was trying to protect from Israeli gunfire when he was hit by a bullet himself. "It was very important for me to see the little boy, his family and I sat and talked for a while about our lives and about Tom. The family have a very special place in my heart and I am always thinking of them." Publicity The Hurndall family have been busy raising awareness and publicity about Tom’s case and about the situation in Palestine. They have shared platforms at anti-war demonstrations and have given talks about their experiences of battling the Israeli government to find justice for Tom. "I’m ashamed to say that I knew very little about the Palestinian people and their struggle for justice before I was effected by it directly. Since Tom was shot, I have come to know many people in the country, and am working with like-minded people to raise awareness of what’s really going on in Gaza." ‘I’m ashamed to say that I knew very little about the Palestinian people and their struggle for justice before I was effected by it directly" Jocelyn Hurndall Throughout the interview Jocelyn refers to her son in the past tense. "Yes, Tom is alive, but to me what I see now lying in the hospital is not the Tom that I gave birth to, he is there in physical presence only. "I am very proud of my son, he was passionate about life and he was passionate about diversity. Tom found it very easy to be at home wherever he went in the world, he had a unique spirit." In the week Tom’s family marked his twenty-second birthday, solutions to ending the Israeli occupation of Palestine and an end to the cycle of violence seem as far removed as ever. "I want Israelis and Palestinians to start a dialogue with one another and to listen to each other, I want them not to be afraid of one another. I want both Israelis and Palestinians to embrace diversity, that’s what Tom did", says Jocelyn. Answers The Israeli government and the army have consistently denied shooting Tom with intent. At first the army claimed that he had been carrying a gun, then that he had been standing near a man with a gun. In October, the Israeli military Attorney General, General Menachem Finkelstein, agreed to open a military investigation into Tom’s shooting. Tom is the third westerner to have been injured or killed in Gaza recently The family says that they have little confidence in the probe and have taken matters into their own hands by personally investigating Tom’s shooting. Fourteen eyewitness have said that they saw Tom being shot by an Israeli sniper. Photographs and video footage gathered by peace activists and eyewitnesses confirms that Tom was clearly marked in a fluorescent orange jacket – the trade mark of the International Solidarity Movement – the group that Tom was with and that he was carrying no weapons. Targets Tom is the third Westerner to have been wounded or killed in Gaza in recent months. In March a 23-year-old American student, Rachel Corrie, was crushed to death in Rafah by an Israeli armoured bulldozer while she tried to protect a Palestinian family home from being flattened. In May British journalist James Miller was killed by a bullet fired by an Israeli soldier whilst filming a documentary about the effects of violence on Palestinian and Israeli children. "Tom’s birthday will be a sad time for me, but it will also be a time for me to reflect on his remarkable life. I am fiercely proud of him and my family and I will do what’s right for Tom in terms of deciding on what happens next with the medical care that he is receiving. "I want to protect Tom and I will be doing everything in my power to make sure that he is safe and at peace." Source: Aljazeera
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Mother fights Israel for answers The mother of a British peace activist shot in the head by Israeli soldiers says she will continue her fight to find justice for her son. Tom Hurndall, 22, a photographer from London was recording the work of a peace group in Rafah, Gaza when he came under fire from Israeli soldiers. He was shot on 11 April after going to help a Palestinian child when Israeli soldiers opened fire in the direction of the boy. Tom is severely brain damaged and lies in a London hospital where he is in a vegetative state and isn’t expected to recover.
In the end, they’ll take out some money from US aid to Palestinian Authority and give it to her.
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Mother fights Israel for answers The mother of a British peace activist shot in the head by Israeli soldiers says she will continue her fight to find justice for her son. Tom Hurndall, 22, a photographer from London was recording the work of a peace group in Rafah, Gaza when he came under fire from Israeli soldiers. He was shot on 11 April after going to help a Palestinian child when Israeli soldiers opened fire in the direction of the boy. Tom is severely brain damaged and lies in a London hospital where he is in a vegetative state and isn’t expected to recover. Jocelyn Hurndall, spoke to Aljazeera.net on the week that the family marked Tom’s 22nd birthday. She says that the entire family feels devastated by what has happened to Tom but they will keep pushing for answers from the Israeli government on how and why Tom was targeted. "We are following a long legal process to find out how Tom was injured. I want the Israeli soldiers responsible for harming Tom to know that they can’t shoot people with impunity. We want to pave the way for Palestinian people to have some legal redress when they are shot and injured by the Israeli army just like my son was". The family have hired a leading human rights lawyer Imran Khan to represent Tom and will be meeting Baroness Simmons, the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, in the next few weeks to discuss Tom’s case. Flashback Jocelyn Hurndall heard about her son’s injuries when her daughter, Sophie received a phone call from a British newspaper. "A journalist called the house and told Sophie the news. At that moment the world stopped, time stopped for me. I was distressed and knew that I needed to be with Tom so I arranged to travel out to Israel and see my son." She arrived in Israel two days after Tom was shot and made her way to the Saroka Hospital in Beer Sheva, Israel, where Tom had been taken after he was shot. "I will never forget that moment, I walked into the room where Tom was – he looked very, very bad and it was obvious that he was in a distressed state. There was a young Israeli woman who was sitting in the room with Tom, she turned to me and said ‘I’m so sorry for my country’ and then started crying". Gaza After spending two hours in the hospital with their son, Jocelyn and her husband traveled on to Rafah, to see the spot where Tom had come under fire from the Israeli army. "Being in Rafah, it was like Tom had been attacked all over again, seeing where he had been shot and where he had fallen. I was shocked and angry and emotional. "To this day I can’t believe how Palestinians are forced to live in Rafah, yet they showed us kindness and love and people shed tears with us and told us that they were praying for Tom." Jocelyn visited the child whom Tom was trying to protect from Israeli gunfire when he was hit by a bullet himself. "It was very important for me to see the little boy, his family and I sat and talked for a while about our lives and about Tom. The family have a very special place in my heart and I am always thinking of them." Publicity The Hurndall family have been busy raising awareness and publicity about Tom’s case and about the situation in Palestine. They have shared platforms at anti-war demonstrations and have given talks about their experiences of battling the Israeli government to find justice for Tom. "I’m ashamed to say that I knew very little about the Palestinian people and their struggle for justice before I was effected by it directly. Since Tom was shot, I have come to know many people in the country, and am working with like-minded people to raise awareness of what’s really going on in Gaza." ‘I’m ashamed to say that I knew very little about the Palestinian people and their struggle for justice before I was effected by it directly" Jocelyn Hurndall Throughout the interview Jocelyn refers to her son in the past tense. "Yes, Tom is alive, but to me what I see now lying in the hospital is not the Tom that I gave birth to, he is there in physical presence only. "I am very proud of my son, he was passionate about life and he was passionate about diversity. Tom found it very easy to be at home wherever he went in the world, he had a unique spirit." In the week Tom’s family marked his twenty-second birthday, solutions to ending the Israeli occupation of Palestine and an end to the cycle of violence seem as far removed as ever. "I want Israelis and Palestinians to start a dialogue with one another and to listen to each other, I want them not to be afraid of one another. I want both Israelis and Palestinians to embrace diversity, that’s what Tom did", says Jocelyn. Answers The Israeli government and the army have consistently denied shooting Tom with intent. At first the army claimed that he had been carrying a gun, then that he had been standing near a man with a gun. In October, the Israeli military Attorney General, General Menachem Finkelstein, agreed to open a military investigation into Tom’s shooting. Tom is the third westerner to have been injured or killed in Gaza recently The family says that they have little confidence in the probe and have taken matters into their own hands by personally investigating Tom’s shooting. Fourteen eyewitness have said that they saw Tom being shot by an Israeli sniper. Photographs and video footage gathered by peace activists and eyewitnesses confirms that Tom was clearly marked in a fluorescent orange jacket – the trade mark of the International Solidarity Movement – the group that Tom was with and that he was carrying no weapons. Targets Tom is the third Westerner to have been wounded or killed in Gaza in recent months. In March a 23-year-old American student, Rachel Corrie, was crushed to death in Rafah by an Israeli armoured bulldozer while she tried to protect a Palestinian family home from being flattened. In May British journalist James Miller was killed by a bullet fired by an Israeli soldier whilst filming a documentary about the effects of violence on Palestinian and Israeli children. "Tom’s birthday will be a sad time for me, but it will also be a time for me to reflect on his remarkable life. I am fiercely proud of him and my family and I will do what’s right for Tom in terms of deciding on what happens next with the medical care that he is receiving. "I want to protect Tom and I will be doing everything in my power to make sure that he is safe and at peace." Source: Aljazeera
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The Movement asked all peace-lovers to declare solidarity with Christov and his colleagues and to pressure the Zionist and Canadian governments to allow peace activists and journalists to enter the Palestinian lands and report the truths without further restrictions.
So… all the shit you spruke is not the truth then ?
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Zionist occupation authorities ban entry of Canadian peace activist Dec 3, 2003, 12:17 Gaza – Zionist occupation authorities yesterday barred the entry of the Canadian journalist and peace activist Stephan Christov into the Palestinian lands at the pretext of posing a security threat to the Hebrew state. Human rights organizations and the International Solidarity Movement have denounced the Zionist measure, describing it as arbitrary. The ISM issued a statement charging that the Zionist policy against foreign pace activists had contravened the simplest human rights and international laws. The ISM launched a media campaign in Canada against the Zionist policy, which aimed at preventing acts of solidarity with the Palestinian people’s struggle. The Movement asked all peace-lovers to declare solidarity with Christov and his colleagues and to pressure the Zionist and Canadian governments to allow peace activists and journalists to enter the Palestinian lands and report the truths without further restrictions. The ISM statement affirmed that Zionist occupation in its ongoing daily atrocities against the Palestinian people and peace activists reflected the Hebrew state’s disrespect of all international doctrines and agreements especially when an occupying power had no right to bar the visits or fact-finding missions in lands under its occupation. http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/
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Ahh Yesss! A CXatholic priest with a conscience! Thats something new. Must have run out of small boys to assault. It is also interesting to note the past massive attrocities rendered by the Catholic church over the centuries. Even the Jews were sold out to the Nazi’s by the pope. Way back when the pope encourage a takeover of the US by Catholics.. Didn’t work! Those folks liked what the protestant freemasons had cultivated. We are already having problems with the Islamics, the Jews…And now your trying to add the Catholics to the mix. I don’t think the rank and file of the Catholics are gonna go for that..And most Catholics are no longer Democrat.. Either Repub or Independent. By the way that portion of New Mexico all tote guns. It is not wimp country. Also that priest would have a spanish surname… So I do suspect this posting is a forgery or just flat imaginary! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Published on Saturday, November 29, 2003 by CommonDreams.org The Soldiers At My Front Door by John Dear I live in a tiny, remote, impoverished, three block long town in the desert of northeastern New Mexico. Everyone in town–and the whole state–knows that I am against the occupation of Iraq, that I have called for the closing of Los Alamos, and that as a priest, I have been preaching, like the Pope, against the bombing of Baghdad. Last week, it was announced that the local National Guard unit for northeastern New Mexico, based in the nearby Armory, was being deployed to Iraq early next year. I was not surprised when yellow ribbons immediately sprang up after the press conference. But I was surprised the following morning to hear 75 soldiers singing, shouting and screaming as they jogged down Main Street, passed our St. Joseph’s church, back and forth around town for an hour. It was 6 a.m., and they woke me up with their war slogans, chants like "Kill! Kill! Kill!" and "Swing your guns from left to right; we can kill those guys all night." Their chants were disturbing, but this is war. They have to psyche themselves up for the kill. They have to believe that flying off to some tiny, remote desert town in Iraq where they will march in front of someone’s house and kill poor young Iraqis has some greater meaning besides cold-blooded murder. Most of these young reservists have never left our town, and they need our support for the "unpleasant" task before them. I have been to Iraq, and led a delegation of Nobel Peace Prize winners to Baghdad in 1999, and I know that the people there are no different than the people here. The screaming and chanting went on for one hour. They would march passed the church, down Main Street, back around the post office, and down Main Street again. It was clear they wanted to be seen and heard. In fact, it was quite scary because the desert is normally a place of perfect peace and silence. Suddenly, at 7 a.m., the shouting got dramatically louder. I looked out the front window of the house where I live, next door to the church, and there they were–all 75 of them, standing yards away from my front door, in the street right in front of my house and our church, shouting and screaming to the top of their lungs, "Kill! Kill! Kill!" Their commanders had planted them there and were egging them on. I was astonished and appalled. I suddenly realized that I do not need to go to Iraq; the war had come to my front door. Later, I heard that they had deliberately decided to do their exercises in front of my house and our church because of my outspoken opposition to the war. They wanted to put me in my place. This, I think, is a new tactic. Over the years, I have been arrested some 75 times in demonstrations, been imprisoned for a "Plowshares" disarmament action, been bugged, tapped, and harassed, searched at airports, and monitored by police. But this time, the soldiers who will soon march through Baghdad and attack desert homes in Iraq, practiced on me. They confronted me personally, just as the death squad militaries did in Guatemala and El Salvador in the 1980s, which I witnessed there on several occasions. I decided I had to do something. I put on my winter coat and walked out the front door right into the middle of the street. They stopped shouting and looked at me, so I said loudly, publicly for all to hear, "In the name of God, I order all of you to stop this nonsense, and not to go to Iraq. I want all of you to quit the military, disobey your orders to kill, and not to kill anyone. I do not want you to get killed. I want you to practice the love and nonviolence of Jesus. God does not bless war. God does not want you to kill so Bush and Cheney can get more oil. God does not support war. Stop all this and go home. God bless you." Their jaws dropped, their eyeballs popped and they stood in shock and silence, looking steadily at me. Then they burst out laughing. Finally, the commander dismissed them and they left. Later, military officials spread lies around town that I had disrupted their military exercises at the Armory, so they decided to come to my house and to the church in retaliation. Others appealed to the archbishop to have me kicked out of New Mexico for denouncing their warmaking. Then, a general called the mayor and asked him to mediate "negotiations" with me, saying he did not want the military "in confrontation" with the church. Really, the mayor told me, they fear that I will disrupt the gala send-off next month, just before Christmas, when the soldiers go to Iraq. This dramatic episode is only the latest in a series of confrontations since I came to the desert of New Mexico in the summer of 2002 to serve as pastor of several poor, desert churches. I have spoken out extensively against the U.S. war on Iraq, and been denounced by people, including church people, across the state. I have organized small Christian peace groups throughout the state. We planned a prayer vigil for nuclear disarmament at Los Alamos on the anniversary of Hiroshima this past August, but when the devout people of Los Alamos, most of them Catholic, heard about it, they appealed to the archbishop to have me expelled if I appeared publicly in their town. In the end, I did not attend the vigil, but the publicity gave me further opportunities to call for the closing of Los Alamos. I receive hate mail, negative phone calls and at least one death threat for daring to criticize our country. But New Mexico is the poorest state in the U.S. It is also number one in military spending and number one in nuclear weapons. It is the most militarized, the most in need of disarmament, the most in need of nonviolence. It is the first place the Pentagon goes to recruit poor youth into the empire’s army. If we are to change the direction of our country, and turn people against Bush’s occupation of Iraq, we are going to have to face the ire and persecution of our local communities. If peace people in every local community insisted that our troops be brought home immediately, that the U.N. be sent in to restore Iraq, that all U.S. military aid to the Middle East be cut, and that our arsenal of weapons of mass destruction be dismantled, then we might all find soldiers marching at our front doors, trying to intimidate us. If we can face our soldiers, call them to quit the military and urge them to disobey orders to kill, then perhaps some of them will refuse to fight, become conscientious objectors and take up the wisdom of nonviolence. If we can look them in the eye and engage them in personal Satyagraha as Gandhi demonstrated, then we know that the transformation has begun. In the end, the episode for me was an experience of hope. We must be making a difference if the soldiers have to march at our front doors. That they failed to convert me or intimidate me, that they had to listen to my side of the story, may haunt their consciences as they travel to Iraq. No matter what happens, they have heard loud and clear the good news that God does not want them to kill anyone. I hope we can all learn the lesson. John Dear is a Catholic priest, peace activist, lecturer, and former executive director of the Fellowship of Reconciliation. His latest books include "Mohandas Gandhi" (Orbis) and "Mary of Nazareth, Prophet of Peace" (Ave Maria Press). For info, see. www.johndear.org
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ahh Yesss! A CXatholic priest with a conscience! Thats something new. Must have run out of small boys to assault. It is also interesting to note the past massive attrocities rendered by the Catholic church over the centuries. Even the Jews were sold out to the Nazi’s by the pope. Way back when the pope encourage a takeover of the US by Catholics.. Didn’t work! Those folks liked what the protestant freemasons had cultivated. We are already having problems with the Islamics, the Jews…And now your trying to add the Catholics to the mix. I don’t think the rank and file of the Catholics are gonna go for that..And most Catholics are no longer Democrat.. Either Repub or Independent.
Don, as usual you have no clue.
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Published on Saturday, November 29, 2003 by CommonDreams.org The Soldiers At My Front Door by John Dear I live in a tiny, remote, impoverished, three block long town in the desert of northeastern New Mexico. Everyone in town–and the whole state–knows that I am against the occupation of Iraq, that I have called for the closing of Los Alamos, and that as a priest, I have been preaching, like the Pope, against the bombing of Baghdad. Last week, it was announced that the local National Guard unit for northeastern New Mexico, based in the nearby Armory, was being deployed to Iraq early next year. I was not surprised when yellow ribbons immediately sprang up after the press conference. But I was surprised the following morning to hear 75 soldiers singing, shouting and screaming as they jogged down Main Street, passed our St. Joseph’s church, back and forth around town for an hour. It was 6 a.m., and they woke me up with their war slogans, chants like "Kill! Kill! Kill!" and "Swing your guns from left to right; we can kill those guys all night." Their chants were disturbing, but this is war. They have to psyche themselves up for the kill. They have to believe that flying off to some tiny, remote desert town in Iraq where they will march in front of someone’s house and kill poor young Iraqis has some greater meaning besides cold-blooded murder. Most of these young reservists have never left our town, and they need our support for the "unpleasant" task before them. I have been to Iraq, and led a delegation of Nobel Peace Prize winners to Baghdad in 1999, and I know that the people there are no different than the people here. The screaming and chanting went on for one hour. They would march passed the church, down Main Street, back around the post office, and down Main Street again. It was clear they wanted to be seen and heard. In fact, it was quite scary because the desert is normally a place of perfect peace and silence. Suddenly, at 7 a.m., the shouting got dramatically louder. I looked out the front window of the house where I live, next door to the church, and there they were–all 75 of them, standing yards away from my front door, in the street right in front of my house and our church, shouting and screaming to the top of their lungs, "Kill! Kill! Kill!" Their commanders had planted them there and were egging them on. I was astonished and appalled. I suddenly realized that I do not need to go to Iraq; the war had come to my front door. Later, I heard that they had deliberately decided to do their exercises in front of my house and our church because of my outspoken opposition to the war. They wanted to put me in my place. This, I think, is a new tactic. Over the years, I have been arrested some 75 times in demonstrations, been imprisoned for a "Plowshares" disarmament action, been bugged, tapped, and harassed, searched at airports, and monitored by police. But this time, the soldiers who will soon march through Baghdad and attack desert homes in Iraq, practiced on me. They confronted me personally, just as the death squad militaries did in Guatemala and El Salvador in the 1980s, which I witnessed there on several occasions. I decided I had to do something. I put on my winter coat and walked out the front door right into the middle of the street. They stopped shouting and looked at me, so I said loudly, publicly for all to hear, "In the name of God, I order all of you to stop this nonsense, and not to go to Iraq. I want all of you to quit the military, disobey your orders to kill, and not to kill anyone. I do not want you to get killed. I want you to practice the love and nonviolence of Jesus. God does not bless war. God does not want you to kill so Bush and Cheney can get more oil. God does not support war. Stop all this and go home. God bless you." Their jaws dropped, their eyeballs popped and they stood in shock and silence, looking steadily at me. Then they burst out laughing. Finally, the commander dismissed them and they left. Later, military officials spread lies around town that I had disrupted their military exercises at the Armory, so they decided to come to my house and to the church in retaliation. Others appealed to the archbishop to have me kicked out of New Mexico for denouncing their warmaking. Then, a general called the mayor and asked him to mediate "negotiations" with me, saying he did not want the military "in confrontation" with the church. Really, the mayor told me, they fear that I will disrupt the gala send-off next month, just before Christmas, when the soldiers go to Iraq. This dramatic episode is only the latest in a series of confrontations since I came to the desert of New Mexico in the summer of 2002 to serve as pastor of several poor, desert churches. I have spoken out extensively against the U.S. war on Iraq, and been denounced by people, including church people, across the state. I have organized small Christian peace groups throughout the state. We planned a prayer vigil for nuclear disarmament at Los Alamos on the anniversary of Hiroshima this past August, but when the devout people of Los Alamos, most of them Catholic, heard about it, they appealed to the archbishop to have me expelled if I appeared publicly in their town. In the end, I did not attend the vigil, but the publicity gave me further opportunities to call for the closing of Los Alamos. I receive hate mail, negative phone calls and at least one death threat for daring to criticize our country. But New Mexico is the poorest state in the U.S. It is also number one in military spending and number one in nuclear weapons. It is the most militarized, the most in need of disarmament, the most in need of nonviolence. It is the first place the Pentagon goes to recruit poor youth into the empire’s army. If we are to change the direction of our country, and turn people against Bush’s occupation of Iraq, we are going to have to face the ire and persecution of our local communities. If peace people in every local community insisted that our troops be brought home immediately, that the U.N. be sent in to restore Iraq, that all U.S. military aid to the Middle East be cut, and that our arsenal of weapons of mass destruction be dismantled, then we might all find soldiers marching at our front doors, trying to intimidate us. If we can face our soldiers, call them to quit the military and urge them to disobey orders to kill, then perhaps some of them will refuse to fight, become conscientious objectors and take up the wisdom of nonviolence. If we can look them in the eye and engage them in personal Satyagraha as Gandhi demonstrated, then we know that the transformation has begun. In the end, the episode for me was an experience of hope. We must be making a difference if the soldiers have to march at our front doors. That they failed to convert me or intimidate me, that they had to listen to my side of the story, may haunt their consciences as they travel to Iraq. No matter what happens, they have heard loud and clear the good news that God does not want them to kill anyone. I hope we can all learn the lesson. John Dear is a Catholic priest, peace activist, lecturer, and former executive director of the Fellowship of Reconciliation. His latest books include "Mohandas Gandhi" (Orbis) and "Mary of Nazareth, Prophet of Peace" (Ave Maria Press). For info, see. www.johndear.org
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Israel Kills Four Palestinians, Legalizes Settlements
Great News! Thanks! Israel stopped another ambush of innocent civilians and killed the criminal terrorists.
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KILL ALL THE ISLAMIC BASTARDS TO HELL. — Peter http://atcoalition.showsit.info/ http://main.faithfreedom.org/ If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Israel Kills Four Palestinians, Legalizes Settlements Additional Reporting By Mustafa el-Sawwaf, IOL Correspondent OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, November 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – While four Palestinians, including a 9-year-old boy, were killed by Israeli gunfire overnight, the Israeli government announced Thursday, November 27, plans to legalize several settlements in the West Bank. Three Palestinians were shot dead when Israeli occupation forces opened fire on a civilian vehicle in the Gaza Strip Wednesday, November 26, Palestinian security sources told IslamOnline.net. The Israeli army admitted that the slain Palestinians were unarmed, backtracking on an earlier statement claiming they were gunmen planning attacks against Israeli targets in the area, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). Relatives of the Palestinian martyrs were quoted by the Israeli daily Haaretz as saying that the three cousins were shot as they drove to celebrations for Eid Al-Fitr holiday in the central Gaza Strip. Earlier Wednesday, Palestinian sources reported that nine-year-old Palestinian boy Hani Raba’iyah was gunned down by Israeli forces in a fresh incursion into the Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip. The boy was killed when Israeli troops opened fire at targets adjacent to the camp, located on the Egyptian border. In the meantime, a Palestinian boy was killed of wounds inflicted by Israeli soldiers in southern Al-Khalil in the West Bank, Al-Jazeera reported. The latest deaths raised to 3,626 the number of people killed since the September 2000 outbreak of the Palestinian Intifada against Israeli occupation, including 2,704 Palestinians and 854 Israelis, according to an AFP count. Settlements ‘Legalized’ In another development, Israeli Deputy Defense Minister Zeev Boim told the Israeli army radio Thursday that the process of authorizing several Jewish settlement outposts in the West Bank was almost complete, despite earlier assurances given by his government to the U.S. "Illegal settlement outposts were created over the past three years and the procedure engaged for their legalization are about to be completed," AFP quoted Boim as telling the broadcast. "I am saying that some of them are towns, that the process of legalizing them is near the end, and this is the difference," he argued. Boim did not specify the number of outposts in the process of being "legalized" but said they could not be dismantled because "they were built on state land and not on private land". The move is another nip in the bud of the internationally-sponsored roadmap, as it is a clear violation of its calls to freeze settlement activity and dismantle all Jewish outposts established since Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon came to power in March 2001. Upon officially adhering to the U.S.-backed roadmap at a summit in Jordan last June, Sharon pledged in principle to dismantle all settlements built since he became prime minister. However, human rights groups say very few of the outposts have been dismantled, and those that have were quickly re-established. Sharon granted on October 27, "permanent settlement" status to a number of illegal outposts in the West Bank, a move denounced as "blatant" by an Israeli peace activist, a few days after his government announced a tender to expand settlements in the occupied Palestinian West Bank. A spokesman for the Israeli Peace Now Movement said Boim’s statements prove that Sharon government is collaborating with the Jewish settlers, and has no intention of removing settlements. The anti-settlement group registered 103 settlement outposts in the West Bank, including 56 which sprung up since March 2001. All Israeli settlements constructed in the occupied Palestinian territories, whether authorized by Israel or not, are deemed illegal by international law and U.N. resolutions. Annoying U.S. Israel’s move to authorize the settlement outposts is likely to further anger its U.S. ally, which has repeatedly voiced annoyance at Sharon’s settlement policy, Haaretz expected. But many Arab observers feel Washington does not act firmly enough to force Israel stop such provocations. Washington Wednesday deducted almost 300 million dollars from nine billion dollars worth of loan guarantees, equivalent to the sums being spent on settlement building and those parts of the separation wall Israel is constructing in the West Bank. http://islamonline.net/
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Israel Kills Four Palestinians, Legalizes Settlements Additional Reporting By Mustafa el-Sawwaf, IOL Correspondent OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, November 27 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – While four Palestinians, including a 9-year-old boy, were killed by Israeli gunfire overnight, the Israeli government announced Thursday, November 27, plans to legalize several settlements in the West Bank. Three Palestinians were shot dead when Israeli occupation forces opened fire on a civilian vehicle in the Gaza Strip Wednesday, November 26, Palestinian security sources told IslamOnline.net. The Israeli army admitted that the slain Palestinians were unarmed, backtracking on an earlier statement claiming they were gunmen planning attacks against Israeli targets in the area, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). Relatives of the Palestinian martyrs were quoted by the Israeli daily Haaretz as saying that the three cousins were shot as they drove to celebrations for Eid Al-Fitr holiday in the central Gaza Strip. Earlier Wednesday, Palestinian sources reported that nine-year-old Palestinian boy Hani Raba’iyah was gunned down by Israeli forces in a fresh incursion into the Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip. The boy was killed when Israeli troops opened fire at targets adjacent to the camp, located on the Egyptian border. In the meantime, a Palestinian boy was killed of wounds inflicted by Israeli soldiers in southern Al-Khalil in the West Bank, Al-Jazeera reported. The latest deaths raised to 3,626 the number of people killed since the September 2000 outbreak of the Palestinian Intifada against Israeli occupation, including 2,704 Palestinians and 854 Israelis, according to an AFP count. Settlements ‘Legalized’ In another development, Israeli Deputy Defense Minister Zeev Boim told the Israeli army radio Thursday that the process of authorizing several Jewish settlement outposts in the West Bank was almost complete, despite earlier assurances given by his government to the U.S. "Illegal settlement outposts were created over the past three years and the procedure engaged for their legalization are about to be completed," AFP quoted Boim as telling the broadcast. "I am saying that some of them are towns, that the process of legalizing them is near the end, and this is the difference," he argued. Boim did not specify the number of outposts in the process of being "legalized" but said they could not be dismantled because "they were built on state land and not on private land". The move is another nip in the bud of the internationally-sponsored roadmap, as it is a clear violation of its calls to freeze settlement activity and dismantle all Jewish outposts established since Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon came to power in March 2001. Upon officially adhering to the U.S.-backed roadmap at a summit in Jordan last June, Sharon pledged in principle to dismantle all settlements built since he became prime minister. However, human rights groups say very few of the outposts have been dismantled, and those that have were quickly re-established. Sharon granted on October 27, "permanent settlement" status to a number of illegal outposts in the West Bank, a move denounced as "blatant" by an Israeli peace activist, a few days after his government announced a tender to expand settlements in the occupied Palestinian West Bank. A spokesman for the Israeli Peace Now Movement said Boim’s statements prove that Sharon government is collaborating with the Jewish settlers, and has no intention of removing settlements. The anti-settlement group registered 103 settlement outposts in the West Bank, including 56 which sprung up since March 2001. All Israeli settlements constructed in the occupied Palestinian territories, whether authorized by Israel or not, are deemed illegal by international law and U.N. resolutions. Annoying U.S. Israel’s move to authorize the settlement outposts is likely to further anger its U.S. ally, which has repeatedly voiced annoyance at Sharon’s settlement policy, Haaretz expected. But many Arab observers feel Washington does not act firmly enough to force Israel stop such provocations. Washington Wednesday deducted almost 300 million dollars from nine billion dollars worth of loan guarantees, equivalent to the sums being spent on settlement building and those parts of the separation wall Israel is constructing in the West Bank. http://islamonline.net/
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Bush ‘Greatest Threat To Life’ On Earth: London Mayor
of course the british newspaper the ‘guardian’ has a poll today showing that 65% of brits think the US is a force for good in the world. oh, the shame of it for these america hating fundies. to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com" and enter ‘wf3h’ in the field
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Bush ‘Greatest Threat To Life’ On Earth: London Mayor LONDON, November 18 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Describing U.S. President George W. Bush as "the greatest threat to life on his planet", London’s Mayor Ken Livingstone on Tuesday, November 18, voiced support for protests against Bush’s visit to Britain. In an interview with the Ecology magazine, Livingstone accused Bush of being "the greatest threat to life on this planet that we’ve most probably ever seen" adding that his policies "will doom us to extinction", reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). Urging Londoners and demonstrators to avoid violence during to the heavily-guarded Bush’s visit, Livingstone assured the expected tens of thousands of protesters that their march would be upheld by the Greater London Authority and the Metropolitan Police Service. "But you also have responsibilities to the people of London and the wider world. There will be no place for violence of any kind in London this week. Protests must be peaceful and within the law," he said. "You have the moral high ground," the veteran leader told reporters in a direct message to the marchers. "You are protesting against an illegal war and occupation (of Iraq) and the world will be watching you." Livingstone released a poll for the Greater London Authority indicating that 58 percent of Londoners believed the Iraq war was unjustified. "I am not surprised with this result," Livingstone said. "Londoners have consistently been skeptical about the justification for the war on Iraq." Asked if he would be joining the demonstrators, Livingstone — who participated in anti-war marches before the March invasion of Iraq — said: "I will be here in the (London mayoral) building just in case there are problems." Livingstone is a popular figure among voters, who elected him in 2000 as an independent, and Prime Minister Tony Blair is hoping that he will rejoin the Labor party when he seeks a second term in office next year. Security in the British capital will be at an unprecedented level for Bush’s state visit, with more than 5,000 officers assigned to Thursday’s march past parliament and Downing Street to Trafalgar Square. "The police have an almost impossible task this week," Livingstone said. Bush traveled to Britain on Tuesday for the first state visit by a U.S. head of state. Bush has come to London once before — in July 2001, but as Blair’s guest, and in April this year the two leaders had a snap war summit in Northern Ireland’s capital Belfast. Massive Turnout With the Stop the War Coalition predicting a 100,000-strong turnout during Bush’s visit, determined opponents of the Iraq war have lined up a series of protests, including a mock royal procession on Wednesday and a street march Thursday that will include the toppling of a Bush effigy in Trafalgar Square. "Feelings are running very strongly and the more we are told that we should welcome the President, the more opposition grows," said Lindsey German, the coalition’s convener. "We fully expect that over the next three days the true view of the British people will become evident." The demonstrators said they will topple Thursday, November 20, a giant homemade statue of George W. Bush in London’s Trafalgar Square. Protesters also plan to march over Westminster Bridge and past Britain’s Houses of Parliament, before winding on through Whitehall to Trafalgar Square where the giant six-meter (18-foot) statue of Bush will be unveiled and symbolically toppled at around 1715 GMT. "The idea is to highlight how fake the toppling of the Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad was" on April 9, Liz Hutchins, spokeswoman for the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND), told AFP. "The footage of the toppling of the statue has been exposed as a complete fraud in that it was U.S. troops that help to topple it and the Iraqi people who were there were part of the entourage of the United States," Hutchins said. Total Tragedy "It was a symbol of victory for the U.S. but in fact the occupation has turned out to be a total tragedy," she said. CND and the Stop the War Coalition on Monday gained authorization to march through Whitehall in central London, home to British government ministries and Downing Street, which houses the official residence of the British premier. On Wednesday, an "alternative procession" will poke fun at the fact that Bush, worried by the prospect of massive street protests, will not receive a royal procession that normally accompanies state visits of this kind. A magnificent horse-drawn carriage pulled by two horses and driven by staff in ceremonial costume will leave the London Eye ferries wheel on the banks of the River Thames at 1100 GMT, explained Stop the War spokeswoman Tansy Hoskins. Inside actors dressed as Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II and President Bush will wave ironically to the crowds of protesters. CND will also parade a huge inflatable nuclear missile carried by people dressed up as U.N. weapon inspectors in white suits and masks. "We will make the point that we have now found weapons of mass destruction, not in Iraq but here in Britain," said Hutchins. Police arrested their first protester Monday when a 61-year-old grandmother climbed up the six-meter (20-foot) iron front gate of Buckingham Palace with a U.S. flag bearing the words: "He’s not welcome." Lindis Percy, a veteran peace activist, came down after more than two hours and police arrested her on suspicion of causing criminal damage and breaching the peace. She was later released on bail. "I was amazed at the ease of it," she told reporters afterwards. Bush’s trip coincided with a fresh poll in the United States suggesting that his popularity is at an all-time low among American voters, just a year before the next presidential elections. Forty-seven percent of respondents to the USA Today/CNN/Gallup Poll disapproved with the way Bush was handling his job, according to the survey among 1,004 adults conducted last week. http://islamonline.net
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1. I don’t reccomend you to defend suicide bombers in google group. Big brother may be watching you, and he may not understand you correctly. 2. I think that Muslim-Arab states should modernize economically and be more a part in a global economy. If this happens, Israelies will have less incentives to destroy their neighbors and business partners. It looks like Arafat administration failed to create a good ecomy for the Palestinians, even though they received a lot of money from all over the world: Israel, USA, Europe,etc. As a matter of fact, all Muslim-Arabs states and people should concetrate on the economic development, not on a small Jewish nation. It is not fair, to blame Israel for everything. 3. Muslim-Arab population all over the world is growing very rapidly. Not only Arabs in Asia have a large families, they are all over the Europe these days. So please do not say that Israel(Jews) are the racists who kill Palestinians because they are Palestinians. The standard of living in Israel for Arabs is higher than in the Arabs states. There are a lot of doctors, lawyers, businessmen among Arabs in Israel. City of Haifa is just one example. On the decision of Arafat deportation by Israel cabinet ministers. Israel by Ariel Sharon: We are Jews, we are the blessed. Arafat is bad guy, and he should be dismissed. Enough of the suicide -bombings, enough of bloodshed. In 1990s, Shamir and Rabin brought him to power, we gave him money, water, arms… What is his response? He imported to us suicide -bombers, Chamas, Jihad, Fathah movement. No way, grandpa Yasser, old fox, and the rat. We’ll nail you down, take you out of your cave. We’ll chain, cage , and send you to Africa. Your place is with animals: lions, hyenas and wolves. Palestine by Yasser Arafat: My home’s Palestine, I’ll die for and with my people. Jews are aggressors, oppressors and they are the problem. It is true, Jews are richer than Arabs , but they should not treat us like trash. We , Palestinians have lived in Middle East for thousands years. 100 years ago, Jews had come to Palestine from all over the world: Russia, France, and US. Jews are still coming and coming from Russia, Ukraine, and France. Jews kill Arab people, take land, water, mules
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Saudi fighters ‘join resistance’ in Iraq
Of course, you’d pull out of there. By the way, any plans to pay higher taxes on all that "facilitation income"? You being a democrat and all, figures you want the tax cuts canceled. Oh right, you want all the other suckers to pay, not you. Typical limousine liberal. steve
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Saudi fighters ‘join resistance’ in Iraq By Shaista Aziz Wednesday 29 October 2003, 11:45 Makka Time, 8:45 GMT Mujahidin fighters are launching attacks in Iraq A leading Saudi dissident says thousands of fighters from the kingdom are embroiled in attacks against American occupation soldiers in Iraq. Dr Muhammad al-Massari, a political activist living in exile in London, has told Aljazeera.net that resistance attacks in Iraq will continue to escalate in Baghdad. ”There are around 5000 mujahidin fighters from Saudi Arabia in Baghdad, and many others joining them from all over the Muslim and Arab world. "These men have already stepped up their efforts to kick out the American imperialists from Iraq, but what we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg,” he said. Al-Massari claims that the resistance attacks against the American fighters will spread to Saudi Arabia where anti-western and Saudi government sentiment is rising. Calm before the storm ”For the past 10 years, Saudi Arabia has been relatively calm, the mujahidin were busy recruiting and training men from as far afield as Chechnya and Kashmir to fight against American aggression in the Muslim world." Al-Massari claims that 10 years ago it would have been inconceivable for Muslim fighters to take arms and launch attacks within a Muslim country. However, with Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait allowing American troops to be stationed in their countries, resentment against Arab regimes has increased. ”For the past 10 years Saudi Arabia has been relatively calm, the mujahidin were busy recruiting and training men” Dr Muhammed al-Massari, Saudi exile ”The resistance fighters had a dilemma in the past when it came to fighting within a Muslim country because of the rules of Sharia (Islamic) law. "However, as we are seeing in Saudi Arabia itself Muslims are prepared to launch attacks within their own countries”. Warning Both the Qatar and London embassies of the Saudi kingdom declined to comment on al-Massari’s allegations. Al-Massari’s remarks coincide with the American government issuing warnings that an attack against western interests in the kingdom is imminent. The warning, which the Americans describe as ”credible” comes at a time when there is huge discontent among the Saudi population against their rulers, the royal family. Americans have been warned to avoid non-essential travel to the kingdom, and advised citizens to be vigilant in the Gulf region. The Bush administration called on Syria and Iran on Tuesday to take action to stop cross-border infiltration by guerrillas into Iraq. US military officials say there are signs that foreign fighters were behind the four suicide bombings that killed 34 people and wounded 230 on Monday in Baghdad’s bloodiest day since Saddam Hussein was overthrown. The US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, said over the weekend that most of the "terrorists" in Iraq were not Iraqis but came from countries such as Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Sudan. Border control was a major issue in Iraq, he said, adding that it was very difficult to seal the country’s borders. According to al-Massari, the Saudi royal family are also targets for the mujahidin fighters who are angry at the Saudi government for ”inviting the Americans on to their holy soil”. Al-Massari plans to launch a political party in London, calling for reforms in Saudi Arabia. His group, the Committee for the Defence of Legitimate Rights, is keeping a close watch on events unfolding in the region. Aljazeera Latest stories in this section: Invasion killed ‘up to 15,000 Iraqis’ Turkey admits Iraq troops setback Two US soldiers killed in Iraq Five killed in Yemen tribal warfare Middle East peace: ‘Time running out’ Several killed in Sudan copter crash ‘Pig-brigade’ to guard settlements Israel to probe peace activist shooting Gloves come off in Mauritania polls Chronology of bomb attacks in Iraq Home | Arab World News | Global News | Economy | Culture | Special Reports | Science and Technology About Aljazeera | Polling | Feedback | Contact Us | Site Guide
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It is the IDF who are the pathetic ones. Reduced to shooting children and unarmed civilians. Is this how brave men behave? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – American and Australian shot by Israeli army By Odai Sirri Saturday 25 October 2003, 6:21 Makka Time, 3:21 GMT Two international peace activists have been shot by Israeli soldiers at a Palestinian refugee camp near Nablus. Details of the shooting were released to Aljazeera.net within hours of the incident on Friday evening, but the identities of the injured are being witheld until their families can be contacted. The Australian and American men were both shot in the legs at the Balata refugee camp and were taken to Rafidia Hospital where they are now undergoing treatment. According to the representatives from the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), the two were shot after escorting Palestinian children away from Israeli soldiers who entered the camp. ISM officials said two Palestinian boys were hit by rubber bullets, but the American and Australian volunteers were shot with live bullets and remain in hospital. Israeli army officials told Aljazeera.net that live rounds were also used to fire on Palestinian youths. Army officials said they were unaware of the shootings of the peace activists. ISM officials told Aljazeera.net that Israeli soldiers fired indiscriminately inside the camp before cutting the electricity. "They (Israeli soldiers) were shooting in complete darkness," said Aron Baker. Unarmed civilians "There was no Palestinian gunfire; we were all clearly unarmed civilians; why were the soldiers shooting?" asked another ISM volunteer. But the incident has again highlighted the risks international peace activists take in their effort to shed light on the plight of the Palestinian people. In March 2003, 23-year-old American ISM peace activist Rachel Corrie was crushed to death while trying to prevent an Israeli bulldozer from bulldozing a Palestinian home in the town of Rafah. Five ISM peace activists were shot and wounded in July when Israeli soldiers fired on the demonstrators protesting the construction of Israel’s apartheid wall. And in September, two European ISM activists were jailed by Israeli authorities for trying to prevent the destruction of another Palestinian home. The pair were held imprisoned for 10 days before being deported. Aljazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – American and Australian shot by Israeli army By Odai Sirri Saturday 25 October 2003, 6:21 Makka Time, 3:21 GMT Two international peace activists have been shot by Israeli soldiers at a Palestinian refugee camp near Nablus. Details of the shooting were released to Aljazeera.net within hours of the incident on Friday evening, but the identities of the injured are being witheld until their families can be contacted. The Australian and American men were both shot in the legs at the Balata refugee camp and were taken to Rafidia Hospital where they are now undergoing treatment. According to the representatives from the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), the two were shot after escorting Palestinian children away from Israeli soldiers who entered the camp. ISM officials said two Palestinian boys were hit by rubber bullets, but the American and Australian volunteers were shot with live bullets and remain in hospital. Israeli army officials told Aljazeera.net that live rounds were also used to fire on Palestinian youths. Army officials said they were unaware of the shootings of the peace activists. ISM officials told Aljazeera.net that Israeli soldiers fired indiscriminately inside the camp before cutting the electricity. "They (Israeli soldiers) were shooting in complete darkness," said Aron Baker. Unarmed civilians "There was no Palestinian gunfire; we were all clearly unarmed civilians; why were the soldiers shooting?" asked another ISM volunteer. But the incident has again highlighted the risks international peace activists take in their effort to shed light on the plight of the Palestinian people. In March 2003, 23-year-old American ISM peace activist Rachel Corrie was crushed to death while trying to prevent an Israeli bulldozer from bulldozing a Palestinian home in the town of Rafah. Five ISM peace activists were shot and wounded in July when Israeli soldiers fired on the demonstrators protesting the construction of Israel’s apartheid wall. And in September, two European ISM activists were jailed by Israeli authorities for trying to prevent the destruction of another Palestinian home. The pair were held imprisoned for 10 days before being deported. Aljazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/
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American and Australian shot by Israeli army By Odai Sirri Saturday 25 October 2003, 6:21 Makka Time, 3:21 GMT Two international peace activists have been shot by Israeli soldiers at a Palestinian refugee camp near Nablus. Details of the shooting were released to Aljazeera.net within hours of the incident on Friday evening, but the identities of the injured are being witheld until their families can be contacted. The Australian and American men were both shot in the legs at the Balata refugee camp and were taken to Rafidia Hospital where they are now undergoing treatment. According to the representatives from the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), the two were shot after escorting Palestinian children away from Israeli soldiers who entered the camp. ISM officials said two Palestinian boys were hit by rubber bullets, but the American and Australian volunteers were shot with live bullets and remain in hospital. Israeli army officials told Aljazeera.net that live rounds were also used to fire on Palestinian youths. Army officials said they were unaware of the shootings of the peace activists. ISM officials told Aljazeera.net that Israeli soldiers fired indiscriminately inside the camp before cutting the electricity. "They (Israeli soldiers) were shooting in complete darkness," said Aron Baker. Unarmed civilians "There was no Palestinian gunfire; we were all clearly unarmed civilians; why were the soldiers shooting?" asked another ISM volunteer. But the incident has again highlighted the risks international peace activists take in their effort to shed light on the plight of the Palestinian people. In March 2003, 23-year-old American ISM peace activist Rachel Corrie was crushed to death while trying to prevent an Israeli bulldozer from bulldozing a Palestinian home in the town of Rafah. Five ISM peace activists were shot and wounded in July when Israeli soldiers fired on the demonstrators protesting the construction of Israel’s apartheid wall. And in September, two European ISM activists were jailed by Israeli authorities for trying to prevent the destruction of another Palestinian home. The pair were held imprisoned for 10 days before being deported. Aljazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/
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Israel continues wanton destruction of Palestinian homes amid world silence Oct 13, 2003, 23:09 Occupied Jerusalem
Hey Abu Alfalfa, maybe the "silence" is a symptom of the fact that much of the world is sick and tired of the Palestinians’ vile loathesome despicable terrorism campaign of immoral suicide-bombing crimes. which have no goal and achieve nothing except to nihilistically kill civilians for the sole and exclusive purpose of killing civilians. Meanwhile, I’m not excessively impressed by the fact that you also consider Tel Aviv to be "occupied territory" — maybe that’s another symptom of some of your basic problems which cause people to lose sympathy for you. — Hamas motto: لا إله لهم إلا الموت،
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