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Discuss Jack' London novel The Iron Heel — War of Oligarchs against both Populists and Proletarians

Question:

So different are President Bush and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry _ in everything from personal style to their approaches to major international, domestic and cultural issues facing the country _ that voters have, in effect, a choice between ratifying America’s current path and charting a new one. There’s a world of difference between Bush and Kerry just like there’s a world of difference between horse shit and cow shit.

You didn’t grow up on a farm, did you?  There is far less difference between Bush and Kerry than between bovine and equine excrement. However in all four cases, we are discussing excrement. William R. James

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The Kerry-Kore, be they the predictable low-IQ, low-life losers who miss the 1960s radicalism, will be overjoyed if Kerry wins.  Ideally they’d see a new Kerry administration provide money and support to terrorists to attack Israel, motions in the UN Security Council to outdo the idiocy in the General Aseembly when it comes to ugly anti-Israel follies — they’d probably also want to pay big bribes to all the rogue nations (rather than just take them as France and Russia have done) and to terrorists, along with joining China and the rest of the gang in disparaging and harming Taiwan.  Why not attack both politically incorrect nations at the same time? Bush has his problems, but any idiot who actually believes Kerry superior and actually prefers socialism and farther-left Euro-Trashy behavior for this USA (and has the gall to lie so baldly as to call it "reform" or "improvement" or "correction") is simply in the big Dim Party junk-pile collection.  In fact, where Bush has gone wrong has been in ways that would logically appeal to the Kerry Krowd — except that those chumps find whatever Bush does as "insufficient" and expect much more(!). Dave Simpson

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So different are President Bush and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry _ in everything from personal style to their approaches to major international, domestic and cultural issues facing the country _ that voters have, in effect, a choice between ratifying America’s current path and charting a new one. Like other historic elections, in 1980, 1964 and 1932, the outcome of this year’s vote could usher in a radically different way of governing. It’s worth noting that the three earlier elections produced landslides. But whoever wins, and by whatever margin, the outcome will have important consequences for Americans’ prosperity and safety and for their country’s role in the world. http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=16       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml     The Pentagon admits that the official rate of 13.5 per 100,000 troops is higher and has risen 20 per cent from a recent high. There is also an increase in depression for those who are returning.     …Harvey Rosetti http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml     The startling discovery that affiliation with the Republican party is genetically determined was announced by scientists in the current issue of the journal "Nurture." http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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It surely is time now for a regime change in Washington. GWB should be given safe passage to Central Africa or anywhere else.

So get to work. Put up or shut up. —

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It’s Kennedy and Nixon all over again. Like Kennedy, Kerry was on Nixon’s enemies list: http://nsnews.tripod.com/terrorism.htm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So different are President Bush and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry _ in everything from personal style to their approaches to major international, domestic and cultural issues facing the country _ that voters have, in effect, a choice between ratifying America’s current path and charting a new one. Like other historic elections, in 1980, 1964 and 1932, the outcome of this year’s vote could usher in a radically different way of governing. It’s worth noting that the three earlier elections produced landslides. But whoever wins, and by whatever margin, the outcome will have important consequences for Americans’ prosperity and safety and for their country’s role in the world. http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=16       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)

Yeah and Kerry is worth a lot more $$$$$ than Bush could ever dream of. It’s what we need right now!

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So different are President Bush and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry _ in everything from personal style to their approaches to major international, domestic and cultural issues facing the country _ that voters have, in effect, a choice between ratifying America’s current path and charting a new one.

There’s a world of difference between Bush and Kerry just like there’s a world of difference between horse shit and cow shit.

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As a candidate for president, Nader has presented himself as an alternative to the "Republicrats." The Green Party has been saying that there isn’t a dime’s — or maybe a dollar’s — worth of difference between the two major parties. Now here comes Dick Cheney. The compassionate conservative has picked a guy who voted against Head Start? Cheney isn’t just against partial-birth abortion, but abortion for rape, incest or anything else. He’s not just in favor of guns but cop-killer bullets.

Confirming once again that Dems lie and distort facts as much as Repubs.

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As a candidate for president, Nader has presented himself as an alternative to the "Republicrats." The Green Party has been saying that there isn’t a dime’s — or maybe a dollar’s — worth of difference between the two major parties.

On that he is absolutely right.  Nothing else, but on that. Now here comes Dick Cheney. The compassionate conservative has picked a guy who voted against Head Start? Cheney isn’t just against partial-birth abortion, but abortion for rape, incest or anything else. He’s not just in favor of guns but cop-killer bullets.

What is inconsistant there?   I’m pro-choice, but think abi=out it. Assuming for the sake of argument that a fertilized egg is a "person" and thus entitled to the same rights as a three year old, it’s logically inconsistant to allow abortion for any reason expect possibly the immediate and certian threat to the life of the mother. Otherwise you have some serious consistancy problems.  If rape or incest if reason for abortion, then what if the kid is three years old when you deside to abort?  Once you remove that stage of development from the issue of "person", then bith is irrelevant. I’m pro-choice because I think anyone should have the right to remove anything from theor own body, and because I find it horrendously repulsive to force a 12 year old rape victim to carry a pregnancy to term.  However I have far more respect for someone with principles and who is consistant than someone like Kerry who doesn’t have any principles and takes every positon on every issue. And what about so-called "cop-killer bullets"?   If you favor the 2nd amendment, the right of the people to arms, the natural right of self defense, that includes at least as much firepower as one might reasonable expect to find an attacker possessing. There’s noting unige about "cop-killer bullets".  Any moron can convert a normal .32 hollow point into an armor piercing round in seconds with common items. Certianly the criminals have such things. It’s illegal in most states to possess bullet proof vests!  Does that make sense?  Again, I have far more respect for someone with principles and who is consistant than someone like Kerry who doesn’t have any principles and takes every positon on every issue. Cheney went from running the Gulf War to running an oil company. The double-derrick ticket is enough to get many a disillusioned progressive back on the Democratic program.

Somebody runs a war and an oil company, and you think that means there is something wrog with them?  What have you run?  Why not list your succeses?  What have you accomplished with your life so far other than learning to post to usenet? And BTW, I don’t support Nader.  I don’t support Bush.  I obviously don’t support Kerry.  They are all birds of a feathers, socialists peddling the same lies.  Oddly enough, the same lies you are peddling. William R. James

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As a candidate for president, Nader has presented himself as an alternative to the "Republicrats." The Green Party has been saying that there isn’t a dime’s — or maybe a dollar’s — worth of difference between the two major parties. Now here comes Dick Cheney. The compassionate conservative has picked a guy who voted against Head Start? Cheney isn’t just against partial-birth abortion, but abortion for rape, incest or anything else. He’s not just in favor of guns but cop-killer bullets. Cheney went from running the Gulf War to running an oil company. The double-derrick ticket is enough to get many a disillusioned progressive back on the Democratic program. http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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    It surely is time now for a regime change in Washington. GWB should be given safe passage to Central Africa or anywhere else. He should be given a choice not given to President Aristide, that he pick his destination. Let him go. Insist on it. No one has done more harm to this republic that George W Bush (and his family) in the 200 years of its existence. Time for a change and it is time to throw out the those who corrupt freedom and have such disregard for human rights and human life….Harvey Rosetti http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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The Boy was Their Political P A W N This is the America, where we don’t even give a second thought to returning children everyday to poverty, persecution, sickness, and misery, but give almost half a million dollars to a presidential candidate and have laws trampled and made meaningless. (Article) The Boy Belonged with His Father http://pnews.org/portal/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=5       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml Since traditional marriage has gone by the wayside, the only possible reason for a call to amend the Constitution is discrimination. If people were truly concerned about defending marriage, their focus should be directed at things such as reality TV, not on people who love each other and wish to be recognized in a way most people take for granted. http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=12       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml The downside of Saddam remaining in power has to be offset against the death and destruction since March 18 last year: thousands of innocent Iraqis killed and injured, hundreds of coalition troops killed, UN and Red Cross personnel killed, infrastructure destroyed, cultural artefacts looted, hundreds of billions of dollars spent, almost daily insurgent attacks, increased hatred of coalition countries by terrorists and Muslims, and the precedent that pre-emptive attack without United Nations authority is justified provided the attacker thinks it is. *Sydney F. Birchall, Killara, March 4. http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13       —     / o o  PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) [1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (Egalitarian-Progressive)     _/ _/

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ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml Nr.2 – 14.Mar.2004 21:35:39 Name: Jeannie E. Hess Homepage: n/a Our strategy should be to raise the cost to the regulators of their regulatory tyranny and to lower the cost to physicians, pharmacists, and patients of defending their rights. We need to destroy the public’s naive presumption of the regulators disinterested good faith, to debunk the myth that medicine is being regulated in the public interest, and to reveal the abuse of power for what it is. Only then will we empower physicians to help their patients, and patients to control their pain. Dr. Hurwitz Wonderful article–made me angry, sad, and frustrated. Quoting Dr. Hurwitz above, how does one do just these things? How does one stop the polititians and their sycophants from being so intrusive? That is the only thing missing–we now know WHAT to do, thanks to Dr. Hurwitz; but I don’t know HOW to do it. Nr.1 – 14.Mar.2004 21:31:16 Name: Anonymous Homepage: n/a First of all, because my own situation remains in litigation, I am not at liberty to provide either my name or my email. As both a healthcare worker and a patient, I too have suffered because of the politically correct antidrug hysteria. I am/was a health care worker (HCW) in the USA. I had had chronic intermittent pain from 1992-2002. From 2002 up to the present, it has been chronic pain; for which I have to take opiates/opioids on a daily basis just to be able to function. Sadly, I did not have a caring and competent pain physician like Dr. Hurwitz; I had a staunch addictionologist who, despite my medical history, was intent upon pigeonholing me as a substance abuser from the very beginning. This evil man, after deliberately preying upon my vulnerabilities as a pain patient (and pain patients are indeed vulnerable) reported me to my state^

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