(PART 2): ESSAY: About The NEW WORLD ORDER Conspiracy Controversy And What To Do About It

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: [ CONTINUED FROM PART ONE, PLEASE SEE PREVIOUS POSTING FIRST ] Myself, and a lot of others don’t know a lot about the U.N., and it’s powers and how it’s controlled. I don’t suppose you could give us more information on what the UNA and WFA are and can do? If we know more, maybe we can better solidify and bring our mutual desires about.

I don’t have detailed info. on hand at this moment, but I will dig it up and post contact info and something about what they do and are doing. In general, I would stay away from the UNA, unless you really want to waste a lot of time trying to get a bunch of tunnel-visioned self-serving elitists convinced about what is really going on. The problem with WFA is that most of all their members are over age 60.  Not a lot of energy to really get out and do something.  the organ. needs both more leadership and a lot more younger members. I will post more on this soon (hopefully). Regards, Bob —- "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." – 1ST AMENDMENT   /                 /            /__,_  _  o ____  /_  __.  __   —

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: [ CONTINUED FROM PART ONE, PLEASE SEE PREVIOUS POSTING FIRST ] :       DERIVED TACTIC – Work to reform the United Nations :       before it becomes our highest seat of government.  I :       offer the following suggestion, this is partly a :       compromise, in order to reach the balance I have :       spoken of, and in respect to pragmatism.  Re-write :       the Charter of the U.N. to form what should be a :       relatively brief set of principles and implementing :       procedures much like our Constitution, with certain :       _INALIENABLE_ rights built-in; and change the form That is perhaps the most important part. Generaly we don’t know what we have until it is gone. If we do anything we MUST get this part into the Charter. [continuing] :       of representation to: 3 voting persons from each country, :       1 appointed as ambassador just as we have now (to :       maintain the professional diplomacy that we sorely :       need to maintain in such a cross-cultural body) and :       2 nationally elected (at large) representatives, :       elected democratically by vote, similar to the way :       we elect Congresspersons[PC] in the U.S.  This would :       allow the continued influence of the appointed and :       professional ambassador’s and return some balance :       of power by 2 votes of elected representatives to :       this world body.  Additionally, I would abolish :       any form of VETO power in the world government, and :       in it’s (and the Secty Genls) place I would create :       a Counsel of 15 members which are chosen and replaced :       on a bi-annual basis (every two years) from within :       the members of the General Assembly itself.  There is :       obviously a lot of other details to work out to make :       this work, but these are the concepts/principles of :       such an organization.  Additionally, I would ensure :       that appropriate checks/balances are included in the :       U.N. Constitution to maintain a balance between the :       world gov’t and national sovereignty.   I totally agree here. We have been heading toward this for many many years, and we better damn well fix it up before it settles in… Many have said, and I agree, that we should right now be in a depression, but the government is and has been holding us up. I feel that the plan is to have the support "drop away" tumbling us into a depression (like the last one where we gave our power to create money to another group and hence giving them the control of our economy). I forsee the U.N. comming in and saying "Your system didn’t work, we will help you if you join ours". The saviors if you will.   At the least, the way must be paved for this possible eventuality. At the very least, get the Inalienable Rights in the U.N. If there are those of you out there still skeptical of this "New Order" thing, I have saved some very good quotes from people like senators talking of forces bringing it about. :       1 – Put the original 13th Amendment onto the books :         in the U.S. and let the chips fall where they may :         to potential serve as a catalyst to real reform :         of our legal system. [ LEGAL REFORM ] :         2 – Completely re-write the tax-code of the U.S. in :         order to strike the appropriate balance between :         the Fed/IRS and the people who are _supposed_ to :         own this country. [ TAX REFORM ] :         3 – Before the U.N. completely usurps and controls :         self-determination of the U.S. and the rest of the :         people in the world, work to create an actually :         good U.N. that would serve the people of the world. :         [ WORLD GOVERNMENT REFORM ] I’ll just leave the above sinse it was the point of the two posts… : I don’t arrive at my conclusions regarding world government : merely on imagination.  I served on the United Nations : Association (DC Chapter) Task Force on U.N. Restructuring and : worked with the World Federalist Association for awhile on : the same issues.  The WFA could be a catalyst for this change : to occur if it had more membership, activism, and internal : leadership.  The UNA (in my opinion) is working against us, : not with us, when we try to reform the U.N.–the UNA is a : good example of internal divide and conquer mentality. Myself, and a lot of others don’t know a lot about the U.N., and it’s powers and how it’s controlled. I don’t suppose you could give us more information on what the UNA and WFA are and can do? If we know more, maybe we can better solidify and bring our mutual desires about. : One final word.  I am totally against any form of Constitutional : Convention (Con-Con) in the United States.  All of what we need : to do in terms of the Constitution, can be done through Amendment; : that is why we have the ability to Amend it. No, no, and NO Con-Con. I’ve not heard of this before, but if it’s what i am guessing (a reform of the Constitution), and if it has actually been put forth, no! I feel this could only be an attempt by forces to speed things up and skip some steps. I don’t see how anyone would allow a con-con, but after watching NAFTA pass, I have to suspect it being possible. No. : Regards, : Bob ckerr

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[ CONTINUED FROM PART ONE, PLEASE SEE PREVIOUS POSTING FIRST ] 3 – Since around 1945 and the end of World War II, we have (as a nation, and now also as a world via NATO, U.N., etc) been fighting a war of CAPITALISM vs. NON-CAPITALISM (refer to my statements in the beginning of this, but specifically I now refer primarily to Communism, or the Soviet Empire). We (CAPITALISM) won that war.  Congratulations to us.  And along the way we have created an new era of globalism (new word used as PC to hide the overt use of the NEW WORLD ORDER phrase made infamous by King George during the last campaign). Now, don’t get me wrong I am for world peace, world trade, cooperation, even the spread of our (hopefully…if we can still find them) democratic principles); but, what we have done in the name of accomplishing all that is to create (among many other things, but this is the Grand-daddy) the United Nations.  I think the U.N. as a whole has done some good for some people of the world, it would have to or else the public opinion to allow it to continue to usurp/kill our democratic princples could not have flourished as it has to date.  Well, the main problem I have with this whole thing is that the General Assembly of the U.N. in it’s feigned attempt to mock a world democratic body (a global Republic if you will), is actually just a place where an _appointed_ (read: unelected, unchecked) Ambassador (and tons of his/her staff), purport to represent our country (and likewise for the other countries of the world).  And, as a country (as are other countries), we are systematically turning over more and more of "the peoples" sovereignty and self-determination to these globalist power centers (which as we have already covered has been an evolution of absolute CAPITALIST control).  I believe this takes us into the next major milestone which is imminent upon us; and that is the ultimate conversion of our national sovereignty (and then subsequently almost every other country on the planet, with the exception of the likes of China and N. Korea, or perhaps they are already backdoor partners in this…that discussion is for another day.  So, I consider the current major milestone to be (for our local purposes) the Clinton presidency and the acceleration of the final solution (in the form of a world government without appropriate representation).  That "full circle" I mentioned in my opening statements is that we have gone from absolute rule by MONARCH’s (medieval capitalists), and we are very close to absolute rule by CHAIRMAN’S OF THE BOARD (contemporary techno-capitalists).         DERIVED TACTIC – Work to reform the United Nations         before it becomes our highest seat of government.  I         offer the following suggestion, this is partly a         compromise, in order to reach the balance I have         spoken of, and in respect to pragmatism.  Re-write         the Charter of the U.N. to form what should be a         relatively brief set of principles and implementing         procedures much like our Constitution, with certain         _INALIENABLE_ rights built-in; and change the form         of representation to: 3 voting persons from each country,         1 appointed as ambassador just as we have now (to         maintain the professional diplomacy that we sorely         need to maintain in such a cross-cultural body) and         2 nationally elected (at large) representatives,         elected democratically by vote, similar to the way         we elect Congresspersons[PC] in the U.S.  This would         allow the continued influence of the appointed and         professional ambassador’s and return some balance         of power by 2 votes of elected representatives to         this world body.  Additionally, I would abolish         any form of VETO power in the world government, and         in it’s (and the Secty Genls) place I would create         a Counsel of 15 members which are chosen and replaced         on a bi-annual basis (every two years) from within         the members of the General Assembly itself.  There is         obviously a lot of other details to work out to make         this work, but these are the concepts/principles of         such an organization.  Additionally, I would ensure         that appropriate checks/balances are included in the         U.N. Constitution to maintain a balance between the         world gov’t and national sovereignty. In Summary, I have portrayed 3 major milestones in our NWO evolution, and have identified 3 tactics to use to strike a balance between the rights/liberty’s of the people and the NEW WORLD CAPITALIST ORDER.  Briefly, these are:         1 – Put the original 13th Amendment onto the books         in the U.S. and let the chips fall where they may         to potential serve as a catalyst to real reform         of our legal system. [ LEGAL REFORM ]         2 – Completely re-write the tax-code of the U.S. in         order to strike the appropriate balance between         the Fed/IRS and the people who are _supposed_ to         own this country. [ TAX REFORM ]         3 – Before the U.N. completely usurps and controls         self-determination of the U.S. and the rest of the         people in the world, work to create an actually         good U.N. that would serve the people of the world.         [ WORLD GOVERNMENT REFORM ] I prioritize these in reverse order because of (a) the actual impact that these things will have on determining our future, and (b) current events and pragmatism make this a common sense approach.  In addition to the core tactics I believe fundamental to correcting the political balance (LEGAL REFORM, TAX REFORM, and WORLD GOVERNMENT REFORM); I believe their are other very significant problems for the U.S. to resolve, within the system and the above reformed system including: elimination of annual government deficits, reduction of the public debt, reform of government-sponsored monopolies, real fair trade between U.S. and our trading partners (i.e. Japan and countries with state-operated industry), reform of our military and para- military organizations (DoD,CIA,FBI,BATF,SS,NSA, etc). In general, I believe that a new world order, actually is in order; just–not what we have been evolving toward at this point. Do I think their are sinister conspiracy’s and plots behind most of what is going on?  I do to some degree, because after all that is the nature of capitalism, and the ultimate goal of capitalism is to control all capital (or continually move toward that goal).  In order to control all capital in our systems of government, you need to control (to some degree) the government (which to some degree) does control sectors of our economy.  If you don’t do this then as a capitalist you rely on luck since "natural" forces of the economy, even in our society are not that natural, since about 40% (I think that number is right…and conservative) of the U.S. economy (for example) is directly influenced or controlled by actions of the government.  It may even be that various bastions of mega- capitalists get together on _some_ issues or _strategies_ or _tactics_ to help their collective cause.  Could this create a/the media mafia empire as a result?  It could.  Do I think these people always agree on everything and every approach to take? No, because afterall they are (a) human, and (b) they are capitalist with their own goals as a bottom line.  This is why I believe that in the attempt to achieve the tactical victories I described above, that the divide and conquer strategy could work on "them" as well as it has been used against us for so long (in "our" case it is: white vs. black, white vs. yellow, women vs. men, children vs. parents, heterosexuals vs. homosexuals, christians vs. everyone else, etc.) I don’t arrive at my conclusions regarding world government merely on imagination.  I served on the United Nations Association (DC Chapter) Task Force on U.N. Restructuring and worked with the World Federalist Association for awhile on the same issues.  The WFA could be a catalyst for this change to occur if it had more membership, activism, and internal leadership.  The UNA (in my opinion) is working against us, not with us, when we try to reform the U.N.–the UNA is a good example of internal divide and conquer mentality. One final word.  I am totally against any form of Constitutional Convention (Con-Con) in the United States.  All of what we need to do in terms of the Constitution, can be done through Amendment; that is why we have the ability to Amend it.  If we were to open up (by supporting) the carte blanche’ powers of a Con-Con, we would then by that action be handing near absolute power over the people to the mega-capitalist (and their government surrogates), since those forces now control the vast majority of the power that would be in place and responsible to draft the new Constitution. Regards, Bob —- "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." – 1ST AMENDMENT   ( But I guess there is nothing to stop the President from   doing it if he/she at a whim decides to declare martial law,   under the powers of executive order, which, granted by   Congress, if taken to invoke such measures, should be   declared Unconstitutional, therefore null and void, by   the above 1st Amendment.  Such action might also lead me   to begin impeachment proceedings for such a President )   /                 /            /__,_  _  o ____  /_  __.  __   —

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