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Here is the ORIGINAL Settlement of the NORML LawSuit that Dr. John Grubor wrote for the parties a year ago. It is the ONLY solution to getting medical cannabis legalized at once!
<snip a bunch of stuff that would effectively turn NORML into a castrated ghost of an organization Um, out of curiosity, what was NORML’s response? Gotten anywhere in this lawsuit? Or has some judge with two brain cells to rub together tossed you out of court for not having the standing to bring a case against NORML in the first place? –Bo-
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Here is the ORIGINAL Settlement of the NORML LawSuit that Dr. John Grubor wrote for the parties a year ago. It is the ONLY solution to getting medical cannabis legalized at once! <snip a bunch of stuff that would effectively turn NORML into a castrated ghost of an organization
WRONG! It will FIX NORML! Um, out of curiosity, what was NORML’s response? Gotten anywhere in this lawsuit? Or has some judge with two brain cells to rub together tossed you out of court for not having the standing to bring a case against NORML in the first place?
I have not brought *our* suit yet, but the "medical-patients" of this country DO have "standing." Any ruling on "standing" will be taken all to the way to the U.S. Supreme court, though. Certioraris have become my specialty, as of late. -DrG,Esq. medpot(c)foundation – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – –Bo-
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Who the hell is this Dr. Grubner creep??? I’m a dues paying member of NORML & DPF. If this Grubner fiend has his way, I think I’ll give DPF the $ I WOULD have sent to NORML!!!
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Reposting of cancelled article: also to remailer: :Here is the ORIGINAL Settlement of the NORML LawSuit that
r. John Grubor wrote for the parties a year ago. It is the :ONLY solution to getting medical cannabis legalized at once! : : : : SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTE AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES : : resolve :the ongoing dispute between the parties involved in the current lawsuit :against NORML, and in an effort to hereafter work together for the :benefit of the majority of people who may need Cannabis for medical :and/or necessary purposes, the aforementioned parties agree to settle :the dispute in accord with the following stipulations and agreements: : : :1) Richard Cowan shall resign from the position of National Director of :NORML. : :2) Hereafter, all financial information and documentation of NORML’s :bills, assets, obligations, debts and/or other financial matters shall :be made known to any Officer or Boardmember who demonstrates a necessary :need to know the requested data, and who agrees to maintain the :confidentiality of the information within the gamut of the Board and :Officers of NORML. : :3) In consideration for the settlement between the parties, all claims :for Attorney’s fees or costs arising from the current Litigation are :withdrawn and discharged. : :4) Hereafter, the Board of Directors shall be appointed, and shall :initially consist of the following seven members: : : Dr. Lester Grinspoon : Dr. John P. Morgan : Ms. Ann Druyan : Senator Joseph Galiber : Dr. Ansley Hamil : Attorney Richard Evans : Dr. Lynn Zimmer : :5) The seven Boardmembers agree to jointly work towards the primary goal
f the organization, which shall hereafter be to have Cannabis removed :from Schedules One and Two of the Controlled Substance Act, and to get :it legalized for the use in medical and/or necessary purposes. To aid :in the expedition of this goal, all future Members shall be appointed by :the unanimous consent of the then current Boardmembers. : :6) All Board Members shall have Graduate Degrees of some kind, and shall :agree that during their term of Boardmembership, they shall avoid "even :the appearance of impropriety" in all public endeavors. This commitment :shall in no way be considered to be a restriction on any Boardmember’s :private statements, opinions, or involvement in any other organization, :as long as the aforementioned actions are not made on the record or as a :matter of public disclosure. The specific intended purpose of this rule :is to keep the focus of attention of NORML on the Issue of obtaining :legal Cannabis for medical and/or necessary purposes. : :7) No NORML Board Member or Officer shall be publicly involved in any :group, or make any public statement, which would in any way be :expressing an opinion on the use of any other drug or a position on any
ther issue unrelated to Medical Cannabis. This restriction applies to, :but is not limited to, the Following Groups and Issues: : : CATO, Drug Policy Foundation, Monticello Group, NOW, Sierra :Club, Greenpeace, and/or the Libertarian, Democratic, Republican or any
ther Political Parties. : : Any Political Matters or Issues concerning Other Drugs, :Antiprohibitionism, Homosexuality, Lesbianism, Feminism, Religion, Guns, :Nuclear Freeze, The War on Drugs, The War against People, Fascism, :Tobacco, Whales, Greenpeace, Owls, any political candidates, pending :legislation, governmental actions or any other issues of which the :discussion or public statement thereof may raise disagreement between :the Parties. : : :8) NORML shall no longer, on the public record: : : A) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a drug :having a "high potential for abuse" as was previously done in Court :Litigation by NORML. : : B) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a :"hallucinogenic" drug, as was previously done in Court Litigation by :NORML. : : C) Contend that adults should have a right to use Cannabis to :"adjust their states of consciousness" for any non-medical purpose. : : D) Contend that adults should have the right to use Cannabis for :"recreational" or "religious" purposes. : : E) Contend that any section or branch of the Federal or any :State government is an "oppressor of freedom" or that it conducts a "war :against people." : :9) Hereafter, NORML shall promote the legalization and use of Cannabis :for "medical and/or necessary purposes." Necessary purposes shall :include the use of Cannabis for Harm Reduction, by the limitation or :reduction of the use of Cocaine, Alcohol, Tobacco, Crack, Heroin or any
ther harmful substances. : :10) NORML shall not endorse the illegal use of Cannabis, but shall :maintain the position that the medical and/or necessary use of Cannabis :is justifiable under Section 503 of the Model Penal Code, and that the :justification exists because of the current Schedule One Classification
f Cannabis. : :11) The General Membership may conduct general elections or appointments :for an "Advisory Board" if so desired, but the costs for such elections
r appointments shall be borne by the participants therein and not by :the NORML organization. The Board of Directors shall give reasonable :consideration to any recommendations made by any Advisory Board, and :upon request, shall in due course submit any recommendations to a vote :by the then current NORML Board of Directors. : :12) The parties involved in this dispute, as a consideration of this :settlement, agree to hereafter refrain from making any public statements :about any of the other parties. : :13) This settlement agreement shall be considered to be the complete and :total agreement between the parties, and it hereby revokes, rescinds and :replaces any previous agreements between the parties, and any and other :policy, positions, statements, allegations, contentions, stipulations or
ther manifestations of the current or past policy of NORML or any :agents thereof. : : :In Witness thereof, and in agreement thereto, the following parties :affix their signatures as an indication of a full and complete :settlement of all matters at issue, and in an agreement to all of the :terms and conditions herein contained. : : :
laintiffs: Defendants: : : : : : : : : : :
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dr. Grubor will FIX NORML like this: No NORML Board Member or Officer shall be publicly involved in any group, or make any public statement, which would in any way be expressing an opinion on the use of any other drug or a position on any other issue unrelated to Medical Pot. (snipped) The specific intended purpose of this rule is to keep the focus of attention of NORML on the Issue of obtaining legal Cannabis for medical and/or necessary purposes.
That’s Grubor’s opinion. He has a right to his opinion. NORML shall no longer, on the public record: A) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a drug having a "high potential for abuse" as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML.
I completely agree with this. Cannabis does not have a high potential for abuse. NORML should never have gone on the record stipulating that marijuana has a high potential for abuse. B) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a "hallucinogenic" drug, as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML.
Again, I completely agree with this, although I’m not aware that NORML ever made such a stipulation. I think Grubor is a little confused on this. C) Contend that adults should have a right to use Cannabis to "adjust their states of consciousness" for any non-medical purpose.
Again, I completely agree with this. All cannabis use is a form of self medication. Referring to it as something to be used for the purpose of getting drunk is harmful to any effort to produce relief for cannabis users and POWs. D) Contend that adults should have the right to use Cannabis for "recreational" or "religious" purposes.
Again, this is absolutely essential. The term "recreational" means "drunkeness" to the general public. It’s a bad term to use. As for religious use, the courts have consistently made it clear that if you’re not a member of a mainstream religion, you might as well forget about your religious freedom. It may come someday, but not until people realize what a beneficial plant marijuana really is. E) Contend that any section or branch of the Federal or any State government is an "oppressor of freedom" or that it conducts a "war against people."
Again, government is not the enemy. A government is nothing more or less than the people who run it. To get good government, you have to get involved in politics. Looking and acting like a radical isn’t the quickest way to get what you want. Sounds like NORML is a complete pussy organization now that makes me glad that I never sent them one cent. The way to win this battle is not by attempting to mainstream. In fact, the only Presidential candidate who even conceded that medicalization of THC was plausible was Pat Buchanan and he can hardly be considered mainstream.
Buchanan had nothing to lose by being candid. Legalization is just. Fight Oppression. Cut the Bullshit. Freedom now!
Yeah sure. Go out and get your freedom. Let me know when you find it. I won’t be holding my breath. Sincerely, Carl Olsen * Carl E. Olsen * http://www.calyx.com/~olsen/ * * Post Office Box 4091 * http://www.commonlink.com/~olsen/ * Reporters and Researchers are welcome at the world’s largest on-line library of drug policy material at: http://www.druglibrary.org/
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Dr. Grubor will FIX NORML like this: No NORML Board Member or Officer shall be publicly involved in any group, or make any public statement, which would in any way be expressing an opinion on the use of any other drug or a position on any other issue unrelated to Medical Pot.
(snipped) The specific intended purpose of this rule is to keep the focus of attention of NORML on the Issue of obtaining legal Cannabis for medical and/or necessary purposes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – NORML shall no longer, on the public record: A) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a drug having a "high potential for abuse" as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML. B) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a "hallucinogenic" drug, as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML. C) Contend that adults should have a right to use Cannabis to "adjust their states of consciousness" for any non-medical purpose. D) Contend that adults should have the right to use Cannabis for "recreational" or "religious" purposes. E) Contend that any section or branch of the Federal or any State government is an "oppressor of freedom" or that it conducts a "war against people."
Sounds like NORML is a complete pussy organization now that makes me glad that I never sent them one cent. The way to win this battle is not by attempting to mainstream. In fact, the only Presidential candidate who even conceded that medicalization of THC was plausible was Pat Buchanan and he can hardly be considered mainstream. Legalization is just. Fight Oppression. Cut the Bullshit. Freedom now! - Colfax *** Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable – JFK ***
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NOTICE TO ALL NETIZENS: After June 31, 1996, the misc.activism.cannabis newsgroup will be limited to MEDICAL-CANNABIS topics only. The other newswgroups in this header are the appropriate newsgroups for the topic of THIS Article. After the above date, all postings on medical cannabis should be be limited to the misc.activism.cannabis (medical-cannabis) newsgroup only. All article not pon-topic to medical.cannabis will not be approved for this newsgroup. Crosspostings between m.a.c. and other newsgroups may result in the .bot cancelling your article, and if this happens, we will repost the article to the other newsgroups that were in the header. This protocol is a medical necessity. Thank You for your anticipated cooperation in connection with this urgent matter of medical necessity. Sincerely, DrG,Esq. medpot(c) Foundation :ace,alt.society.neutopia,news.groups,news.admin.censorship,misc.misc,al t.censorship,alt.internet.media-coverage,alt.drugs.usenet :Followup-To: alt.activism,news.admin.misc,alt.wired,alt.journalism,alt.2600,misc.acti vism.cannabis,alt.hemp,misc.legal,ne.general,alt.hemp.cultivation,alt.cy berspace,talk.politics.drugs,alt.hemp.politics,soc.men,alt.drugs.pot,rec drugs.cannabis,alt.cybers : :pace,alt.society.neutopia,news.groups,news.admin.censorship,misc.misc,a lt.censorship,alt.internet.media-coverage,alt.drugs.usenet :
istribution: : : :How about creating a machine that asks the right questions? :Your idea of a "truth machine" is much too narrow. One needs a machine :capable of carrying the ethical and legal analogies that every individual :keeps in their head. One needs to be able to get to those analogies and :categories. : :I’ve had an idea: tie someone to a lie detector hooked up to an atomic bomb.
erson lies, the bomb goes off. Put EVERYONE into this detector in turn. :Then, it will be in EVERYONE’s interest that EVERYONE tells the truth. : NOTICE TO ALL NETIZENS: After June 31, 1996, the misc.activism.cannabis newsgroup will be limited to MEDICAL-CANNABIS topics only. The other newswgroups in this header are the appropriate newsgroups for the topic of THIS Article. After the above date, all postings on medical cannabis should be be limited to the misc.activism.cannabis (medical-cannabis) newsgroup only. All article not pon-topic to medical.cannabis will not be approved for this newsgroup. Crosspostings between m.a.c. and other newsgroups may result in the .bot cancelling your article, and if this happens, we will repost the article to the other newsgroups that were in the header. This protocol is a medical necessity. Thank You for your anticipated cooperation in connection with this urgent matter of medical necessity. Sincerely, DrG,Esq. medpot(c) Foundation
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Here is the ORIGINAL Settlement of the NORML LawSuit that Dr. John Grubor wrote for the parties a year ago. It is the ONLY solution to getting medical cannabis legalized at once! SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTE AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES the ongoing dispute between the parties involved in the current lawsuit against NORML, and in an effort to hereafter work together for the benefit of the majority of people who may need Cannabis for medical and/or necessary purposes, the aforementioned parties agree to settle the dispute in accord with the following stipulations and agreements: 1) Richard Cowan shall resign from the position of National Director of NORML. 2) Hereafter, all financial information and documentation of NORML’s bills, assets, obligations, debts and/or other financial matters shall be made known to any Officer or Boardmember who demonstrates a necessary need to know the requested data, and who agrees to maintain the confidentiality of the information within the gamut of the Board and Officers of NORML. 3) In consideration for the settlement between the parties, all claims for Attorney’s fees or costs arising from the current Litigation are withdrawn and discharged. 4) Hereafter, the Board of Directors shall be appointed, and shall initially consist of the following seven members: Dr. Lester Grinspoon Dr. John P. Morgan Ms. Ann Druyan Senator Joseph Galiber Dr. Ansley Hamil Attorney Richard Evans Dr. Lynn Zimmer 5) The seven Boardmembers agree to jointly work towards the primary goal of the organization, which shall hereafter be to have Cannabis removed from Schedules One and Two of the Controlled Substance Act, and to get it legalized for the use in medical and/or necessary purposes. To aid in the expedition of this goal, all future Members shall be appointed by the unanimous consent of the then current Boardmembers. 6) All Board Members shall have Graduate Degrees of some kind, and shall agree that during their term of Boardmembership, they shall avoid "even the appearance of impropriety" in all public endeavors. This commitment shall in no way be considered to be a restriction on any Boardmember’s private statements, opinions, or involvement in any other organization, as long as the aforementioned actions are not made on the record or as a matter of public disclosure. The specific intended purpose of this rule is to keep the focus of attention of NORML on the Issue of obtaining legal Cannabis for medical and/or necessary purposes. 7) No NORML Board Member or Officer shall be publicly involved in any group, or make any public statement, which would in any way be expressing an opinion on the use of any other drug or a position on any other issue unrelated to Medical Cannabis. This restriction applies to, but is not limited to, the Following Groups and Issues: CATO, Drug Policy Foundation, Monticello Group, NOW, Sierra Club, Greenpeace, and/or the Libertarian, Democratic, Republican or any other Political Parties. Any Political Matters or Issues concerning Other Drugs, Antiprohibitionism, Homosexuality, Lesbianism, Feminism, Religion, Guns, Nuclear Freeze, The War on Drugs, The War against People, Fascism, Tobacco, Whales, Greenpeace, Owls, any political candidates, pending legislation, governmental actions or any other issues of which the discussion or public statement thereof may raise disagreement between the Parties.
NORML shall no longer, on the public record: A) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a drug having a "high potential for abuse" as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML. B) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a "hallucinogenic" drug, as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML. C) Contend that adults should have a right to use Cannabis to "adjust their states of consciousness" for any non-medical purpose. D) Contend that adults should have the right to use Cannabis for "recreational" or "religious" purposes. E) Contend that any section or branch of the Federal or any State government is an "oppressor of freedom" or that it conducts a "war against people." 9) Hereafter, NORML shall promote the legalization and use of Cannabis for "medical and/or necessary purposes." Necessary purposes shall include the use of Cannabis for Harm Reduction, by the limitation or reduction of the use of Cocaine, Alcohol, Tobacco, Crack, Heroin or any other harmful substances. 10) NORML shall not endorse the illegal use of Cannabis, but shall maintain the position that the medical and/or necessary use of Cannabis is justifiable under Section 503 of the Model Penal Code, and that the justification exists because of the current Schedule One Classification of Cannabis. 11) The General Membership may conduct general elections or appointments for an "Advisory Board" if so desired, but the costs for such elections or appointments shall be borne by the participants therein and not by the NORML organization. The Board of Directors shall give reasonable consideration to any recommendations made by any Advisory Board, and upon request, shall in due course submit any recommendations to a vote by the then current NORML Board of Directors. 12) The parties involved in this dispute, as a consideration of this settlement, agree to hereafter refrain from making any public statements about any of the other parties. 13) This settlement agreement shall be considered to be the complete and total agreement between the parties, and it hereby revokes, rescinds and replaces any previous agreements between the parties, and any and other policy, positions, statements, allegations, contentions, stipulations or other manifestations of the current or past policy of NORML or any agents thereof. In Witness thereof, and in agreement thereto, the following parties affix their signatures as an indication of a full and complete settlement of all matters at issue, and in an agreement to all of the terms and conditions herein contained. Plaintiffs: Defendants:
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After June 31, 1996, the misc.activism.cannabis newsgroup will be limited to MEDICAL-CANNABIS topics only. The other newswgroups in this header are the appropriate newsgroups for the topic of THIS Article. After the above date, all postings on medical cannabis should be be limited to the misc.activism.cannabis (medical-cannabis) newsgroup only. All article not pon-topic to medical.cannabis will not be approved for this newsgroup.
WHAT A GREAT IDEA! Perhaps you can extend this to ne.general so that posts about, oh, medical uses of marijuana, stop showing up in a newsgroup about life in New England? — Adam Gaffin Boston Online – Commercial Free, 24 hours a day http://www.std.com/NE/boston.html
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schreibt: I’ve had an idea: tie someone to a lie detector hooked up to an atomic bomb. Person lies, the bomb goes off. Put EVERYONE into this detector in turn. Then, it will be in EVERYONE’s interest that EVERYONE tells the truth.
Lets use conventional bombs and start with the polititians!
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John: I don’t think it would work. After the first hundred people the planet would be uninhabitable.
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:John: : :I don’t think it would work. After the first hundred people the planet :would be uninhabitable. : explain yourself. what was this thread about? -John
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:John: : :I don’t think it would work. After the first hundred people the planet :would be uninhabitable. : explain yourself. what was this thread about? -John
John who, and I forgot
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Dr. Grubor will FIX NORML like this: No NORML Board Member or Officer shall be publicly involved in any group, or make any public statement, which would in any way be expressing an opinion on the use of any other drug or a position on any other issue unrelated to Medical Pot. This restriction applies to, but is not limited to, the Following Groups and Issues: CATO, Drug Policy Foundation, Monticello Group, NOW, Sierra Club, Greenpeace, and/or the Libertarian, Democratic, Republican or any other Political Parties. Any Political Matters or Issues concerning Other Drugs, Antiprohibitionism, Homosexuality, Lesbianism, Feminism, Religion, Guns, Nuclear Freeze, The War on Drugs, The War against People, Fascism, Tobacco, Whales, Greenpeace, Owls, any political candidates, pending legislation, governmental actions or any other issues, of which the discussion or public statement thereof may raise disagreement among the Parties. All Board Members shall Bear Graduate Degrees of some kind, and shall agree that during their term of Boardmembership, they shall avoid "even the appearance of impropriety" in all public endeavors. This commitment shall in no way be considered to be a restriction on any Boardmember’s private statements, opinions, or involvement in any other organization, as long as the aforementioned actions are not made on the record. The specific intended purpose of this rule is to keep the focus of attention of NORML on the Issue of obtaining legal Cannabis for medical and/or necessary purposes. NORML shall no longer, on the public record: A) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a drug having a "high potential for abuse" as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML. B) Stipulate and/or agree to the idea that Cannabis is a "hallucinogenic" drug, as was previously done in Court Litigation by NORML. C) Contend that adults should have a right to use Cannabis to "adjust their states of consciousness" for any non-medical purpose. D) Contend that adults should have the right to use Cannabis for "recreational" or "religious" purposes. E) Contend that any section or branch of the Federal or any State government is an "oppressor of freedom" or that it conducts a "war against people." The seven settled Boardmembers shall agree that all future Boardmembers shall be appointed by unanimous consent of the then current Boardmembers.
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Jim, I haven’t had a chance to read your book, but I want to. However, I don’t know if we really need a machine to tell when we are lying. Most of the time we know when we are lying. But when lying has become such a way of life, people start believing in the lie. What we need is for people to tell the truth of their hearts. Then civilization will collaspe and a Neutopian world will be born. Thank you, Doctress Neutopia
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Imagine a machine that can always tell whenever any person is lying. Such an invention would change just about everything about human civilization, wouldn’t it? A "truth machine," which WILL eventually exist, would have epic-sized implications for most aspects of law, politics, business, science, and human relations. In case the subject intrigues you, I have written a novel entitled (you guessed it) The Truth Machine.
I don’t need a machine to know that you suck. * People who put their computer setup in their signature have problems. *
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine a machine that can always tell whenever any person is lying. Such an invention would change just about everything about human civilization, wouldn’t it? A "truth machine," which WILL eventually exist, would have epic-sized implications for most aspects of law, politics, business, science, and human relations. In case the subject intrigues you, I have written a novel entitled (you guessed it) The Truth Machine. I don’t need a machine to know that you suck. * People who put their computer setup in their signature have problems. *
Why are some people _so_ mean spirited? I don’t understand their motivation at all. I have always hoped that the Usenet system could be a place where people of all opinions and perspectives could come together and talk about life in this world, however good, bad, beautiful or ugly it is for each of us at any given time. Instead, the newsgroups seem to be overrun with postings from people who, hiding behind relative anonymity and inaccessibility, dump meaningless messages such as this, and for what? Am I just unrealistic and out of touch…maybe not open-minded enough to everyone’s perspectives, or is it valid to wonder what the point and value of such "contributions" are? Lila Roebuck Canuelle
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By October The Truth Machine will be in book stores and my publisher, Ivy Press, will probably take down the Web site well before that. Soon there will be so much hype, you’ll HAVE to buy a copy to read just to see what all the fuss is about. Unless you wisely save the $19.95 purchase price by reading it now.
So, what’s the URL of this site, so we can have a look? If it was posted earlier, it’s off the server now. Thanks.
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: : I don’t need a machine to know that you suck. : Why are some people _so_ mean spirited? I don’t understand their : motivation at all. I have always hoped that the Usenet system could be a : place where people of all opinions and perspectives could come together and : talk about life in this world, however good, bad, beautiful or ugly it is for : each of us at any given time. Instead, the newsgroups seem to be overrun : with postings from people who, hiding behind relative anonymity and : inaccessibility, dump meaningless messages such as this, and for what? As the population of Usenet grows, it resembles more and more the real world. There are mean-spirited people in the world. It shouldn’t be surprising that some of them come to Usenet. This is hardly an exclusive club for the intellectually inclined. : Am I just unrealistic and out of touch…maybe not open-minded enough to : everyone’s perspectives, or is it valid to wonder what the point and value : of such "contributions" are? It’s valid to wonder whatever you want. Has anyone in the real world ever been rude to you without apparent reason? Don’t be surprised if that person, or someone very like them, shows up on Usenet with a similar attitude. And try to remember that what one person considers without point or value is another’s worthwhile post. What has value is an entirely subjective matter. — "Usenet is William Shatner and George Bush trading places after being hit by lightning." -Kibo — Visit CONSPIRACY ONLINE: http://rainbow.rmii.com/~tph/bunker.html <—-
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ace,alt.society.neutopia,news.groups,news.admin.censorship,misc.misc,alt.ce nsorship,alt.internet.media-coverage,alt.drugs.usenet Followup-To: alt.activism,news.admin.misc,alt.wired,alt.journalism,alt.2600,misc.activis m.cannabis,alt.hemp,misc.legal,ne.general,alt.hemp.cultivation,alt.cyberspa ce,talk.politics.drugs,alt.hemp.politics,soc.men,alt.drugs.pot,rec.drugs.ca nnabis,alt.cybers pace,alt.society.neutopia,news.groups,news.admin.censorship,misc.misc,alt.c ensorship,alt.internet.media-coverage,alt.drugs.usenet Distribution: How about creating a machine that asks the right questions? Your idea of a "truth machine" is much too narrow. One needs a machine capable of carrying the ethical and legal analogies that every individual keeps in their head. One needs to be able to get to those analogies and categories. I’ve had an idea: tie someone to a lie detector hooked up to an atomic bomb. Person lies, the bomb goes off. Put EVERYONE into this detector in turn. Then, it will be in EVERYONE’s interest that EVERYONE tells the truth.
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By October The Truth Machine will be in book stores and my publisher, Ivy Press, will probably take down the Web site well before that. Soon there will be so much hype, you’ll HAVE to buy a copy to read just to see what all the fuss is about. Unless you wisely save the $19.95 purchase price by reading it now. Ego? Nah… Note the publisher’s name. "Ivy Press." Now I have no idea giving this waste of bowel towel the pleasure of running up the counter on his Web site, but I’d be willing to bet (call it a hunch) I know what university he’s coming from.
Wouldn’t be talking about Harfart University, now would you Bird Mask? — War Pig alt.fan.karl-malden.nose delenda est meow.
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By October The Truth Machine will be in book stores and my publisher, Ivy Press, will probably take down the Web site well before that. Soon there will be so much hype, you’ll HAVE to buy a copy to read just to see what all the fuss is about. Unless you wisely save the $19.95 purchase price by reading it now.
Ego? Nah…
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By October The Truth Machine will be in book stores and my publisher, Ivy Press, will probably take down the Web site well before that. Soon there will be so much hype, you’ll HAVE to buy a copy to read just to see what all the fuss is about. Unless you wisely save the $19.95 purchase price by reading it now. Ego? Nah…
Note the publisher’s name. "Ivy Press." Now I have no idea giving this waste of bowel towel the pleasure of running up the counter on his Web site, but I’d be willing to bet (call it a hunch) I know what university he’s coming from. he who wears the BIRD MASK!!!!
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Imagine a machine that can always tell whenever any person is lying. Such an invention would change just about everything about human civilization, wouldn’t it? A "truth machine," which WILL eventually exist, would have epic-sized implications for most aspects of law, politics, business, science, and human relations. In case the subject intrigues you, I have written a novel entitled (you guessed it) The Truth Machine. For a short time, you can read it on the Web….absolutely FREE! If you’re interested, go to: <http://www.truthmachine.com/ The only catch is an electronic questionaire every 10 chapters or so. Now please excuse the following shameless self-promotion: By October The Truth Machine will be in book stores and my publisher, Ivy Press, will probably take down the Web site well before that. Soon there will be so much hype, you’ll HAVE to buy a copy to read just to see what all the fuss is about. Unless you wisely save the $19.95 purchase price by reading it now. (Did I mention that you can read the ENTIRE book absolutely FREE?) The book is very entertaining, fairly light reading–not a weighty tome at all. But it will engage your mind and make you think about important human issues. The site has been open since Friday, and advertised only on Usenet, attracting some 500 surfers as of today. So far, over 90% of respondents who’ve read it have said they would recommend the book to friends and family (the real reason we’re doing this in case you hadn’t figured it out yet). Howard Gardner, Harvard Grad. School of Education professor & bestselling author, and Dr. Robert Sternberg, renowned Yale Dept. of Psychology professor and perhaps the most widely quoted psychologist in America, have both written glowing reviews of the book. But please let me know what YOU think of the novel and of the concept itself; I welcome all feedback, whether direct to me or as newsgroup postings, from gushing praise to brutal thrashings. Thank you for your time.
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Here is NEW DATA on the Administration of the medical misc.activism.cannabis newsgroup: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newgroups: alt.activism, news.admin.misc, alt.wired, alt.journalism, alt.2600, misc.activism.cannabis, alt.hemp, misc.legal, ne.general, alt.hemp.cultivation, alt.cyberspace, talk.politics.drugs, alt.hemp.politics, soc.men, alt.drugs.pot, rec.drugs.cannabis, alt.cyberspace, alt.society.neutopia, news.groups, news.admin.censorship, misc.misc, alt.censorship, alt.drugs.usenet :necessary newsgroups added; : : Here is a list of the : Medical cannabis Administration for : this NEW Medical Cannabis NewsGroup: : : : for your file information : misc.activism.cannabis medical cannabis newsgroup : : This medical cannabis newsgoup is run by the medpot(c) Foundation : and by NORML, and by the California Compassionate use society. The medpot(c) Foundation is FREE for anyone who wishes to : The administrators of the NEW misc.activism.cannabis : newsgroup here are: : : DrG,Esq. from medpot(c) : Carl Olsen from NORML/IMM,and : Scott Imler from CCU, and : Dennis Herron from same, and : Ron Shaw, patient/activist. : : They shall be the main : "moderators" of this group, : if it becomes necessary. : : Right now, it is an unmoderated group, : but the Charter is MEDICAL-CANNABIS. : : Everybody knows these TOP guys from the various : medical pot movements, so there should be no : problem that makes moderation necessary, it seems. : : : -DrG,Esq. : medpot(c)1995 : — : CyberDoctor : : Law Systems Institute : P.O. Box 114 : E. McKeesport, Pa. 15035 : : (412) TAX-RULE : 24 hr. voice/daytime fax : — : CyberDoctor : : contact the medpot foundation for any further info : : -DrG,Esq : CEO-Manus : — : CyberDoctor : :
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