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Study: 1 in 4 foster children on antidepressants

Question:

CPS is one hiding their records. That has been proven time and time again. Things are starting to open up, however.

Response:

Apparently that was Newspaper headline. Whatever class of psychotropic medications are administered, the FDA is coming out with increasing evidence, that we as a nation, may have been too free in dispensing such meds to young children. You see, very FEW CLINICAL TRIALS ARE CONDUCTED ON KIDS UNDER 18, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. Since the emergence of the Vioxx debacle, the whole science behind the pharmaceutical industry is in question. Many of us have training and expertise in such issues.  More than DCF caseworkers, generally. And Cripe, there are many newspapers in FL now covering the issues of DCF. Headlines need to fit allocated space. BTW, do you have a citation which can verify that more DCF fosters are taking Ritalin class ADD type meds?  DCF cannot even locate missing children.  Their records are in shambles. DCF, FLORIDA, CPS, DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, CPS, CHILD PROTECTIVE, LAWSUITS, INFORMED CONSENT.

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Fern5827 wrote: > Apparently that was Newspaper headline.

Kinda goes to show yah, when it comes to accuracy in reporting, eh? > Whatever class of psychotropic medications are administered, the FDA is coming > out with increasing evidence, that we as a nation, may have been too free in > dispensing such meds to young children.

Long overdue. > You see, very FEW CLINICAL TRIALS ARE CONDUCTED ON KIDS UNDER 18, FOR OBVIOUS > REASONS.

Why are you yelling? The Brits used to do that when speaking to what they thought were ignorant natives. I doubt there are many here interested enough to read this that don’t know, or at least can’t intuit that what YOU YELL is true. Or are you just excited with your discovery like a child and have to "share?" > Since the emergence of the Vioxx debacle, the whole science behind the > pharmaceutical industry is in question.

Ho hum. What’s new? You really can’t possibly mean that this is the first time. > Many of us have training and expertise in such issues.

"Us?" Like "you" "us?" Furneal, you can barely tie your shoes without a child to assist. > More than DCF > caseworkers, generally.

Last I heard they didn’t pretend to be the experts. They used Douggie’s "jacklegs" for DX and RX and TX. > And Cripe, there are many newspapers in FL now covering the issues of DCF. > Headlines need to fit allocated space.

Let me see now. You cut NO slack for for what you want from CPS when they are struggling with budget shortfalls, high turnover, overmax caseloads, but we are to forgive the media for inaccuracies because they ran out of space. That’s nice. > BTW, do you have a citation which can verify that more DCF fosters are taking > Ritalin class ADD type meds?

I didn’t mention it. Obviously you can’t sort us out, and your records are in a shambles. > DCF cannot even locate missing children.

Yes they can. It takes workers, enough of them to do the work. > Their > records are in shambles.

You are lying or your memory is gone, if you are linking "records are in shambles" with missing children. In fact they caught up pretty well in Florida, WHEN THEY ADDED..oh, dear, that yelling thing must be catching…where was I now..oh yes: In fact they caught up pretty well in Florida, when they got more money allocated, paid to farm out some of the work to the cops, (who promptly hired caseworkers to investigate..don’tchajustloveit?) and hired on more hands to catchup with the paperwork. Must have happened because of all those workers riding around in cars, eh? Yer dumb as a stump, Furneal. And, like a stump, rotting from the top down. kane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> DCF, FLORIDA, CPS, DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, CPS, CHILD PROTECTIVE, > LAWSUITS, INFORMED CONSENT.

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"Fern5827" <fern5…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20050130084623.23044.00000383@mb-m01.aol.com… (snip) > BTW, do you have a citation which can verify that more DCF fosters are taking > Ritalin class ADD type meds?  DCF cannot even locate missing children. Their > records are in shambles.

Can we clarify that a bit for you fern?  The CPS files state clearly where the children are supposed to be, but not where they were when checked upon. These children are commonly called "Run-Away’s", and refuse to remain in the placements that the state has provided for them.  Now, there is hte odd child out there that is missing for other reasons, but all the data shows clearly, even those news articles that care to attempt to address the non-CPS bashing sides of the issue, that the vast majority of your "missing" children theory are in fact ……  wait for it  …… Run Away’s.  Police records confirm this, at least when they are checked by those writing these news articles. Spin, misrepresent, duck, and lie.  fern does it all, again. Ron

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Study: 1 in 4 foster children on antidepressants Associated Press Last update: January 16, 2005 MIAMI — Powerful mood-altering drugs are being prescribed to one out of every four foster children under the care of Florida’s child welfare agency, according to a study that prompted concerns the medication is inappropriate, too costly and simply dangerous. The analysis, conducted by Florida’s Department of Children & Families, revealed that consultants hired by the state questioned "the appropriateness" of prescribing mental health drugs to 1,273 children, and told 442 doctors they were engaging in "questionable" practices. "There is evidence that some children … are prescribed psychotropic medications simply to address behavioral problems," DCF committee staff director Beverly Whiddon said. The issue has long been a concern for both child welfare advocates and state officials. In November 2003, former DCF secretary Jerry Regier told a Senate committee that the agency would undertake a study to examine whether psychotropic drugs are being properly prescribed to thousands of foster children. In the fiscal year that ended in June 2002, 5,137 foster children were prescribed psychotropic drugs, including 550 children 5 years old and younger, according to DCF data based solely on Medicaid records, not from HMOs or private insurance. Sen. Walter "Skip" Campbell, D-Tamarac and the chair of the Senate Children & Families Committee, said he will introduce a bill to be heard in this year’s legislative session seeking to curb the practice. Campbell has long been concerned about whether the practice results in addiction among kids to the medications. "This is a unique population, and I hate to see them used as guinea pigs," said state Sen. Evelyn Lynn, R-Ormond Beach. The study also revealed that one in 10 foster children is taking at least three psychiatric drugs simultaneously, and that the state’s cost for mental health drugs has nearly tripled since 2001 to a projected $680 million during this budget year. http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/03… Defend your civil liberties!  Get information at http://www.aclu.org, become a member at http://www.aclu.org/join and get active at http://www.aclu.org/action.

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cripe…@aol.com wrote: > The article I read did not have in the headline "Anti-depressants." In > fact, more of those kids are prescribed stimulants for so-called ADHD, > clondine in comjucntion w/stimulants and anti-psychotics such as > risperidone (aka Risperdol).

Hi, Cripe. Well, yah have to unnerstan. We have a small crew here in about three ngs that are simply stumblebums. They stagger along and run head on into the wall called "facts" riochet off that and slam smack dab into the other one called, "the truth" and they run screaming off into the nearest stream of consciousness to wash off what they think is contamination. If you hang about you’ll see rather a lot of that. First off, if you haven’t lurked, you must understand the ground rules. We each have these labels they tend to give us. Dan Sullivan, for instance, is known as the "failure" because he suggests to family they actually do not engage in open anti CPS kill all caseworkers while you are trying to get your children back from CPS. Evidence of failure is found in dozens of cases were, I suppose by sheer accident, he did in fact help families not only get their kids back but get the founding unfounded, so to speak. I, on the other hand, explain matters of operations and field practice I’ve learned by nearly 30 years of various kinds of interaction with child protection, from serving on a county commission that oversaw them when they went from county to state, getting my first family cleared and the child NEVER taken, in 1976, to a long sort of coaching of relatives to do the right things to get their little kin to adopt and foster. My fortunate perspective has given me kind of an objective oversight of CPS. I’ve done a bit of lobbying, working on bills, testifing court, helping the occasional nearly honest politician 0;-> and making a study of actual field practice by hanging out with and befriending a lot of overworked caseworkers. I’m called, yessiree, a "Apologist." Of course, I’ve nailed CPS more than once on their error or oversight, and I’ve studied politically for a long time and can see when the legislators and various flora and fauna, such as we have a few of here, are going in a dangerous and destructive direction. Ron, along with other foster parents, have been making solid contributions to both children and this newsgroup…but of course that makes them hogs slopping at the PUBLIC TROUGH OF THE BILLION DOLLAR FOSTER INDUSTRY. Never mind Ron has to have jobs so he can maintain himself and family while doing this "slopping". You now. You are, of course, are just one of those evil, sneaky, undertrained, inexperienced, young women just out of school, but you took basket weaving for your batchlor’s, and have no children so what do you know. You sir, or madam, are a <echo> CCCCAAASSSEEEEWWWWOOOOORRRRKKKKKEEEERRR. </echo> <shuuuuudder> The lowest child stealing, fraudulent, tax monies devouring, drive around in the state car on state time harrassing innocent families, making up charges and using those sick risk assessment lists of "indicators" that were obviously created by Satan’s demons themselves, BEAST, don’tchaknow. Besides, you are a child killer, by deliberation and intent. The data shows that you and foster parents are, in collusion, responsible for it being 8 times more like a child will be abused in foster care than the general population and 3 times more likely of being killed. Honest. The experts here told me so. You may fill in anything I missed. Have a nice day, sir or madam. r r r r r Oh, wait. Did I forget? You are all liars, you caseworkers (if that’s your profession) because it’s in your financial interest to be, so children can and will be stolen to pump up the coffers of your agency with federal ransom money. Really.  Except that after you’ve abused them, killed them, and squeezed all that foster money out of them, you finish them off by adopting them out for that huge bundle of boodle. That’s about it. Kane

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The article I read did not have in the headline "Anti-depressants."  In fact, more of those kids are prescribed stimulants for so-called ADHD, clondine in comjucntion w/stimulants and anti-psychotics such as risperidone (aka Risperdol).

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