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Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President By Heidi Przybyla and Judy Woodruff (Bloomberg) William F. Buckley Jr., the longtime conservative writer and leader, said that while a strong Republican candidate for the 2008 presidential race has yet to emerge, the Democrats have in Senator Hillary Clinton a true contender to become the first woman elected U.S. president. “I don’t find a commanding presence sort of knocking on the door” for the next presidential campaign, Buckley said in an interview broadcast today on Bloomberg Television. Clinton, of New York, is “a very consequential woman with an extraordinary background,” he said. She is “a phenomenon, a woman candidate who might easily be president,” Buckley said.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President By Heidi Przybyla and Judy Woodruff (Bloomberg) William F. Buckley Jr., the longtime conservative writer and leader, said that while a strong Republican candidate for the 2008 presidential race has yet to emerge, the Democrats have in Senator Hillary Clinton a true contender to become the first woman elected U.S. president. “I don’t find a commanding presence sort of knocking on the door” for the next presidential campaign, Buckley said in an interview broadcast today on Bloomberg Television. Clinton, of New York, is “a very consequential woman with an extraordinary background,” he said. She is “a phenomenon, a woman candidate who might easily be president,” Buckley said.

I’ve met and talked to her on Capitol Hill. She ain’t no Bill Clinton…not by a long shot. The Dems should pick someone else if they want to win. Bill Buckley is showing his age… Regards, Doug

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You want someone as president that said "I don’t know, I can’t remember, I don’t recall that, etc.etc.etc., 200 or more times while under oath? As much as you have bitched about bush, why in the hell would you want a lying traitor like hillary as president? She will not be able to use the secret service to stop questions like she did in her senate race. But then again, the dems don’t really want to win.

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You want someone as president that said "I don’t know, I can’t remember, I don’t recall that, etc.etc.etc., 200 or more times while under oath?

It didn’t hurt Reagan. As much as you have bitched about bush, why in the hell would you want a lying traitor like hillary as president?

Again with the "traitor"? How is she any more of a traitor than W? She will not be able to use the secret service to stop questions like she did in her senate race. But then again, the dems don’t really want to win.

It sure seems like it, with some of the punk ass candidates that they run. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President By Heidi Przybyla and Judy Woodruff (Bloomberg) William F. Buckley Jr., the longtime conservative writer and leader, said that while a strong Republican candidate for the 2008 presidential race has yet to emerge, the Democrats have in Senator Hillary Clinton a true contender to become the first woman elected U.S. president. “I don’t find a commanding presence sort of knocking on the door” for the next presidential campaign, Buckley said in an interview broadcast today on Bloomberg Television. Clinton, of New York, is “a very consequential woman with an extraordinary background,” he said. She is “a phenomenon, a woman candidate who might easily be president,” Buckley said.

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Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President

A week ago Sunday I was at a dinner for a very Liberal Labor Lawyer friend and I got to meet his best friend for college, who is now possibly the top Democratic operative in the State who has run many successful Dems campaigns. He doesn’t even want Hillary, and he is doubtful that she could win. It was an interesting conversation having him across the table from me for over an hour.

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Reagan got it from old man fizgerald<<joe kennedy’s father in law. he pulled that stunt 1st. reagan should not have gotten away with it either. Just like what the definition of what is, is, clinton pulled. There are volumes of info about hillary & bill’s dealings with the chinese, and the turning over of U.S. interests to the U.N.<<though some of that got stopped. She is pure 3rd way. Even decent democrats do not want her in. She has no credibility, she hates the military. She would sell out this country in a new york minute. Buckley has a real warped sense of humor, looks like he’s just trying to push hillary out there, so he can watch the fun. I see no "leadership" left in either party. But hillary will not get away with not answering for her past. 500 F.B.I. files in her office<< she had no clearance at all. The 200 or so I don’t knows, her part of travel gate<< that info is out now, etc.etc. etc. I am damn near soul sick from Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush scandals, I don’t think I could take another Clinton. I bet there are plenty of others that feel the same way. Not even as a VP!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You want someone as president that said "I don’t know, I can’t remember, I don’t recall that, etc.etc.etc., 200 or more times while under oath? It didn’t hurt Reagan. As much as you have bitched about bush, why in the hell would you want a lying traitor like hillary as president? Again with the "traitor"? How is she any more of a traitor than W? She will not be able to use the secret service to stop questions like she did in her senate race. But then again, the dems don’t really want to win. It sure seems like it, with some of the punk ass candidates that they run. Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President By Heidi Przybyla and Judy Woodruff (Bloomberg) William F. Buckley Jr., the longtime conservative writer and leader, said that while a strong Republican candidate for the 2008 presidential race has yet to emerge, the Democrats have in Senator Hillary Clinton a true contender to become the first woman elected U.S. president. “I don’t find a commanding presence sort of knocking on the door” for the next presidential campaign, Buckley said in an interview broadcast today on Bloomberg Television. Clinton, of New York, is “a very consequential woman with an extraordinary background,” he said. She is “a phenomenon, a woman candidate who might easily be president,” Buckley said.

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Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President A week ago Sunday I was at a dinner for a very Liberal Labor Lawyer friend and I got to meet his best friend for college, who is now possibly the top Democratic operative in the State who has run many successful Dems campaigns. He doesn’t even want Hillary, and he is doubtful that she could win. It was an interesting conversation having him across the table from me for over an hour.

Buckley admires her and likes her prospects of winning better than any Dem or liberal I’ve read recently — the DLC ("Republican Lite") wing of the party isn’t strong enough to get her the nomination imo, but 2 1/2 years is a long time and that could change. Posted via TITANnews – Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<< -=Every Newsgroup – Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-

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Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President A week ago Sunday I was at a dinner

So what? for a very Liberal Labor Lawyer friend and I got to meet his best friend for college, who is now possibly the top Democratic operative in the State

A name? who has run many successful Dems campaigns

Who? He doesn’t even want Hillary, and he is doubtful that she could win.

One person’s opinion. If you’re telling the truth.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Buckley Calls Clinton a Contender to Be President By Heidi Przybyla and Judy Woodruff (Bloomberg) William F. Buckley Jr., the longtime conservative writer and leader, said that while a strong Republican candidate for the 2008 presidential race has yet to emerge, the Democrats have in Senator Hillary Clinton a true contender to become the first woman elected U.S. president. “I don’t find a commanding presence sort of knocking on the door” for the next presidential campaign, Buckley said in an interview broadcast today on Bloomberg Television. Clinton, of New York, is “a very consequential woman with an extraordinary background,” he said. She is “a phenomenon, a woman candidate who might easily be president,” Buckley said. I’ve met and talked to her on Capitol Hill. She ain’t no Bill Clinton…not by a long shot. The Dems should pick someone else if they want to win. Bill Buckley is showing his age… Regards, Doug

Yeah, and in the political arena, I’ve had the good fortune to meet and talk with (and I don’t mean handshake behind a rope, or Devin for a signature)Al Haig, Caspar Weinberger (RIP), George Schultz, Henry Kissinger and Buckley (I sat next to him on a flight from SF to New York). That doesn’t mean that I really got to "know" these people any more than they, me. Trust and faith are a roll of the dice. It doesn’t take Karnak to see what the U.S. wound up with in ‘00 or ‘04. 944 days until the ‘homeland’ becomes electionland. mvm

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A week ago Sunday I was at a dinner So what?

So you would know why I was spending time with such folks. for a very Liberal Labor Lawyer friend and I got to meet his best friend for college, who is now possibly the top Democratic operative in the State A name?

The Labor Lawyer I have mentioned many times is David Koppelman, but the Dem Operative I would NOT mention as his candor could bring him problems since I am not a new reporter, and he was NOT on the record. It was quite interesting getting behind the scenes tales. Kind of like talking to Josh or Toby from The West Wing. who has run many successful Dems campaigns Who?

A well known Liberal Mayor, numerous State Senators, and Assembly members, as well as LA City Council members. He doesn’t even want Hillary, and he is doubtful that she could win. One person’s opinion.

No his wife agreed and she also works campaigns. If you’re telling the truth.

Always.

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A week ago Sunday I was at a dinner So what? So you would know why I was spending time with such folks.

So you say. Believeable? Maybe. Maybe not. for a very Liberal Labor Lawyer friend and I got to meet his best friend for college, who is now possibly the Democratic operative in the State A name? The Labor Lawyer I have mentioned many times is David Koppelman, but the Dem Operative I would NOT mention

So that’s an anonymous source. Likely (given your record) bullshit. who has run many successful Dems campaigns Who? A well known Liberal Mayor, numerous State Senators, and Assembly members, as well as LA City Council members.

More non-names. Most likely (given your record) bullshit. He doesn’t even want Hillary, and he is doubtful that she could win. One person’s opinion. No his wife agreed and she also works campaigns.

The un-named wife of an un-named "source". Most likely? Bullshit

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I’m against family dynasties. Once elected to Presidency, no cousins, brother, sisters, mothers, fathers, uncles, aunts, in-laws or out-laws or clones can run. Should be a law. That said, my insurance guy said that he was shocked to hear school teachers out in the Texas hinterlands talk as if the Hill had already been elected. I can’t imagine her being electable even if teachers in the reddest county in the red state say she will be.

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A week ago Sunday I was at a dinner So what? So you would know why I was spending time with such folks. So you say. Believeable? Maybe. Maybe not.

I have mentioned David, my Liberal Labor Lawyer friend a number of times, but again, you will never let facts impact any of your posts. for a very Liberal Labor Lawyer friend and I got to meet his best friend for college, who is now possibly the Democratic operative in the State A name? The Labor Lawyer I have mentioned many times is David Koppelman, but the Dem Operative I would NOT mention So that’s an anonymous source. Likely (given your record) bullshit.

It would never be fair for me to damage someone’s career, but honor or ethics are completely foreign concepts to you as we see on a daily basis. who has run many successful Dems campaigns Who? A well known Liberal Mayor, numerous State Senators, and Assembly members, as well as LA City Council members. More non-names. Most likely (given your record) bullshit.

Naming the Candidates who’s campaigns he ran would make it obvious to many exactly who I was speaking to, and it would never be fair for me to damage someone’s career, but honor or ethics are completely foreign concepts to you as we see on a daily basis. I have always been honorable, and ethical in all of my posts, and I will remain that way. I have always provided clips with links to verify my posts, and any time that I have EVER Oops’d, I have always quickly gotten that admission posted AND corrected the record.

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Go to www.softwar.net Read the FOA documents. The clinton’s went far beyond "U.S."corporate interests. The chinese on the other hand got plenty. If you saw either clinton kill someone with your own eyes, you would spin it in their favor. Stop reading surface info & find the facts. Proven by several sources. hillary is just bad news. Always has been, always will be. If she by some miracle got pres. We would have at least 4 more years of the same thing that has gone on in this NG. All the dredging up would never go away. It would be a total mess. As Jenifer Flowers said; "these are wicked people".

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are volumes of info about hillary & bill’s dealings with the chinese They were doing the bidding of the corporate interests… just like pretty much every other president has done.

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I actually agree with John – Hillary is problematic; however, it may be possible for her to get elected if she does the right things and the time is right. Again – any Democrat running will have to deal with the South. I’m not sure what that strategy should be; however my gut is that we need to write the South completely off, unless we can find a Southern Democrat, who is well liked, to run. Mr Soul

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I actually agree with John – Hillary is problematic; however, it may be possible for her to get elected if she does the right things and the time is right.

To be accurate, it really was what David’s friend had stated, but I would agree with you and he that Hillary would be too polarizing. Again – any Democrat running will have to deal with the South.

Bingo! I’m not sure what that strategy should be; however my gut is that we need to write the South completely off, unless we can find a Southern Democrat, who is well liked, to run.

Things have really been that way for some time. Go back and look at the Dems that made it all the way since LBJ, it’s been Carter, and Clinton. The only Southerner that I have seen who’s active at this point is Edwards. Has anybody seen any others worth noting?

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I’m axing ya … Condi is going to take Ole’ Dicks place shortly as VP to get some exposure and she and Big Thighs are going to be some’ bitch’slapping, whore wacking, hands on the hips ‘hore’s beat’n each other bitchless by next summer…. ohh mummy. you heard it here in aga …

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But you’ll vote against any Democrat regardless – you’ve proven that over & over again. Why didn’t you vote for Clinton in 1992? Where you old enough to vote for Carter the first time? I think Kerry should have chosen Gephardt as VP. He would have possibly won if he had. Why exactly didn’t you vote for Kerry again? Mr Soul

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But you’ll vote against any Democrat regardless – you’ve proven that over & over again.

That is another in your long list of LIES as you well know. Why didn’t you vote for Clinton in 1992? The Clinton Health Care plan would have bankrupted many small businesses, and I was working for the US Chamber Of Commerce at the time and taht was the biggest issue of the day for small business. Where you old enough to vote for Carter the first time?

Yep. I think Kerry should have chosen Gephardt as VP. He would have possibly won if he had.

Possibly, but I doubt it. Why exactly didn’t you vote for Kerry again?

Because Bush was brighter and not the obvious liar that John Kerry was. Do keep in mind that we have hashed this many times, and YOU have admitted that Kerry LIED, you called it merely a "white lie".

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That is another in your long list of LIES as you well know.

You’ve voted for ONE democrat in your entire life. You’re the liar. Why didn’t you vote for Clinton in 1992? The Clinton Health Care plan would have bankrupted many small businesses, and I was working for the US Chamber Of Commerce at the time and taht was the biggest issue of the day for small business.

Can you prove that? Who funds the US Chamber Of Commerce? Yep.

So – did you vote for Carter? I bet you didn’t. Why exactly didn’t you vote for Kerry again? Because Bush was brighter and not the obvious liar that John Kerry was.

That’s bullshit. Bush is NOT brighter & you know that. Anyone listening to Bush could tell he was lying just like any politician does. I like your use of the word "obvious". Does that mean it’s pretty obvious now? So you didn’t vote for Kerry because he lied about being in Cambodia? You know that a BS statment. Do keep in mind that we have hashed this many times, and YOU have admitted that Kerry LIED, you called it merely a "white lie".

I don’t know if Kerry lied or not. What I said that if he did, it was a white lie. I think he simply misspoke, because he had no reason to lie. Mr Soul

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That is another in your long list of LIES as you well know. You’ve voted for ONE democrat in your entire life.

That is NOT true either, but we don’t ever expect anything honest or accurate in any of your posts any more. You’re the liar.

Too funny when we have many examples of your LIES and you can NOT post ONE from me. Why didn’t you vote for Clinton in 1992? The Clinton Health Care plan would have bankrupted many small businesses, and I was working for the US Chamber Of Commerce at the time and taht was the biggest issue of the day for small business. Can you prove that?

Your ignorance is too funny. It is not my job to be your tutor. Who funds the US Chamber Of Commerce?

At that time over 80% of the Member of the US Chamber Of Commerce was small business. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yep. So – did you vote for Carter? I bet you didn’t. Why exactly didn’t you vote for Kerry again? Because Bush was brighter and not the obvious liar that John Kerry was. That’s bullshit. Bush is NOT brighter & you know that. Anyone listening to Bush could tell he was lying just like any politician does. I like your use of the word "obvious". Does that mean it’s pretty obvious now? So you didn’t vote for Kerry because he lied about being in Cambodia? You know that a BS statment.

That was ONE of MANY reasons and WE have hashed this out MANY, many times, but with yor drug addled memory, you need to be re-educated on a monthly basis. Do keep in mind that we have hashed this many times, and YOU have admitted that Kerry LIED, you called it merely a "white lie". I don’t know if Kerry lied or not.

You posted that you did believe that it was a "white lie" or are you now LYING about having stated that. What I said that if he did, it was a white lie. I think he simply misspoke, because he had no reason to lie.

You did NOT say that when you admitted that it was a lie. It would be nice if you could get through ONE post without LYING.

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That is another in your long list of LIES as you well know. You’ve voted for ONE democrat in your entire life. That is NOT true either, but we don’t ever expect anything honest or accurate in any of your posts any more.

Then tell us who they were you voted for? The Clinton Health Care plan would have bankrupted many small businesses, and I was working for the US Chamber Of Commerce at the time and taht was the biggest issue of the day for small business. Can you prove that? Your ignorance is too funny. It is not my job to be your tutor.

What’s the matter – are you afriad to answer my question? Yep. So – did you vote for Carter? I bet you didn’t.

So you did vote for Carter? That was ONE of MANY reasons and WE have hashed this out MANY, many times, but with yor drug addled memory, you need to be re-educated on a monthly basis.

But you keep bringing up the LIE about Bush being smarter. You know you can’t really prove that. So there are more reasons – what are they then? Afraid to tell us. Do keep in mind that we have hashed this many times, and YOU have admitted that Kerry LIED, you called it merely a "white lie". I don’t know if Kerry lied or not. You posted that you did believe that it was a "white lie" or are you now LYING about having stated that.

Fuck you. I’m clarifying my statement. You did NOT say that when you admitted that it was a lie.

I’m retracting my statement then – OK. It would be nice if you could get through ONE post without LYING.

I wish you could stop lying about Bush being smarter than Kerry. Mr Soul

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I said when asked that there were more but I couldn’t remember off the top of my head. BTW Panetta was one of the very few times that I have voted FOR someone. The Clinton Health Care plan would have bankrupted many small businesses, and I was working for the US Chamber Of Commerce at the time and taht was the biggest issue of the day for small business. Can you prove that? Your ignorance is too funny. It is not my job to be your tutor. What’s the matter – are you afriad to answer my question?

Business would have been taxed to fund it, and guesses ran from as low as a 7% payroll tax to a 20% payroll tax and there was NO CAP built in. If you check back in history, here have been MANY temporary, and ’small" taxes that are now permanent, and very large. Yep. So – did you vote for Carter? I bet you didn’t. So you did vote for Carter?

NO. That was ONE of MANY reasons and WE have hashed this out MANY, many times, but with yor drug addled memory, you need to be re-educated on a monthly basis. But you keep bringing up the LIE about Bush being smarter.

Fuck you and you LYING. There have been many stories published about Bush’s higher test scores AND higher grades. You know you can’t really prove that.

Been there done that. So there are more reasons – what are they then? Afraid to tell us.

I could NEVER vote for a President who would ask the UN, or France for permission to protect this Country. Do keep in mind that we have hashed this many times, and YOU have admitted that Kerry LIED, you called it merely a "white lie". I don’t know if Kerry lied or not.

Why LIE? You admitted in earlier posts that he DID tell a "white lie". You posted that you did believe that it was a "white lie" or are you now LYING about having stated that. Fuck you. I’m clarifying my statement.

He LIED. He made multiple statements that he knew to be FALSE. You did NOT say that when you admitted that it was a lie. I’m retracting my statement then – OK.

No it is NOT. You admitted to Kerry LYING, and you get to live with your admission of Kerry LYING. You repeatedly TRY to pull dishonest bullshit that you would SCREAM about if anyone else did it! Besides, we enjoy the fact that YOU can’t even live with what YOU say. That is FUNNY…

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The Clinton Health Care plan would have bankrupted many small businesses

That’s pure bullshit. It would have saved American industry money. They wouldn’t now be screaming about the cost of health insurance for their workers.

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Who funds the US Chamber Of Commerce?

It claims to represent "small businesses" but it’s little more that a lobbying organization paid for by big business. If it’ll help a worker, they’re against it.

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