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The democrats have become the party of minority factions and fringe elements.

At this point, the African-Americans are consistently voting 90%+ for whatever democrat is running, and with white women departing from the democrats, they can’t elect a dog catcher. At this point, the African-Americans have effectively, finally, totally marginalized themselves by their socialist extremism. Candidates and office holders no longer need to cow tow to them. They will now move from the most privileged but least productive demographic group, to no special privileges, but still least productive demographic group. It’s like bringing the East Germans back to reality and productivity. Takes a while. Expect severe whining.

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The democrats have become the party of minority factions and fringe elements. At this point, the African-Americans are consistently voting 90%+ for

whatever democrat is running, and with white women departing from the democrats, they can’t

elect a dog catcher. At this point, the African-Americans have effectively, finally, totally

marginalized themselves by their socialist extremism. Candidates and office holders no longer need to

cow tow to them. They will now move from the most privileged but least productive demographic

group, to no special privileges, but still least productive demographic group. It’s like

bringing the East Germans back to reality and productivity. Takes a while. Expect severe whining.

Not whining, just a blunt wakeup call. Now the Bush administration has enough rope to hang itself through full accountability and we’ll see how many Republicans truly care for your environment by not writing Bush a blank check on his anti-environmental policies. I suspect and hope that there are more pro-environmental Republicans than most Democrats think. Time will tell, especially with a new vote on ANWR which Bush will surely push. I just thank God that there are cooler heads in Washington that enabled the U.S. to get full U.N. Security Council acceptance of the Iraq inspections, instead of allowing Bush to turn his back on the world’s laws and go into Iraq on his own! Now as Americans we can all support our country when it goes to war with Iraq—–which I think is 99% assured. Jerry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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African Americans are switching to the Republican party in record numbers. They are no longer a 90% vote for Democrats.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The democrats have become the party of minority factions and fringe elements. At this point, the African-Americans are consistently voting 90%+ for whatever democrat is running, and with white women departing from the democrats, they can’t elect a dog catcher. At this point, the African-Americans have effectively, finally, totally marginalized themselves by their socialist extremism. Candidates and office holders no longer need to cow tow to them. They will now move from the most privileged but least productive demographic group, to no special privileges, but still least productive demographic group. It’s like bringing the East Germans back to reality and productivity. Takes a while. Expect severe whining. Not whining, just a blunt wakeup call. Now the Bush administration has enough rope to hang itself through full accountability and we’ll see how many Republicans truly care for your environment by not writing Bush a blank check on his anti-environmental policies. I suspect and hope that there are more pro-environmental Republicans than most Democrats think. Time will tell, especially with a new vote on ANWR which Bush will surely push. I just thank God that there are cooler heads in Washington that enabled the U.S. to get full U.N. Security Council acceptance of the Iraq inspections, instead of allowing Bush to turn his back on the world’s laws and go into Iraq on his own! Now as Americans we can all support our country when it goes to war with Iraq—–which I think is 99% assured. Jerry

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – < What endangered species are you talking about? The Siberian tundra roach? More bad rationale. If it’s small, it must not be important. Bucy is clueless about things like indicator species and what they mean to the overall health of an area. And what’s more he doesn’t care. It’s amazing how many people, even in this newsgroup, could care less if species are on the brink of extinction. Many in this newsgroup are concerned over the almighty dollar——-sort of like Bush himself! Jerry

What do you use to make your mortgage payment if not dollars – acorns? Pete Remove the "X" to send e-mail.

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You volunteering to commit suicide, then? You just admitted it would be a small, if any, loss. Dan — + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + –

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – < What endangered species are you talking about? The Siberian tundra roach? More bad rationale. If it’s small, it must not be important. Bucy is clueless about things like indicator species and what they mean to the overall health of an area. And what’s more he doesn’t care. It’s amazing how many people, even in this newsgroup, could care less if species are on the brink of extinction. Indicator species my ass! I don’t worship animals, if we loose a few roaches along the way, who cares? Pete Remove the "X" to send e-mail.

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< What endangered species are you talking about? The Siberian tundra roach? More bad rationale. If it’s small, it must not be important. Bucy is clueless about things like indicator species and what they mean to the overall health of an area. And what’s more he doesn’t care. It’s amazing how many people, even in this newsgroup, could care less if species are on the brink of extinction.

Indicator species my ass! I don’t worship animals, if we loose a few roaches along the way, who cares? Pete Remove the "X" to send e-mail.

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Many in this newsgroup are concerned over the almighty dollar——-sort of like Bush himself! Jerry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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would’ve been true if the democrats were the party for the people which they are not. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gee, that’s not the way I see it at all. I see the Democratic Party as the party "for the people" and not big business and money, i.e., more the party with a heart, so to speak. It’s the party that historically supported that part of the American public who aren’t able to "make ends meet" through day-to-day financial efforts. Although there actually isn’t that much of a difference between the two party’s way of how they run the overall country’s operations, the Democrats leave the public with the notion that their American liberties are in their own hands instead of in the hands of a few, powerful Republicans who tell them what they are going to do. And as far as Republican organizations working towards a better environment, that’s a very good start but what do you do with a President who is so anti-environment that it really doesn’t matter what citizens think—-he’s going to do what HE thinks will bring in the most money, regardless of environmental programs already in place?? I will say one thing for George Bush. What the man lacks in mental ability, he makes up for in will. But that’s not a comforting statement in worldly affairs, is it. Jerry Face facts, the Democratic Party is becoming marginalized. It is the Party of minorities and those folks still espousing out moded social/financial concepts. Now is the time to work within the Republican organizations to "push" them towards a better environmental policy. A few voices active in the Party can cause significant policy changes. Can it work? You bet. Look at the influence certain radical elements have had on the once respected Democratic Party. Murph

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Drilling in the ANWR would not place the environment at risk,

More Bucy lies. He’s never even read the studies. it would greatly decrease Americas dependence on Muslim oil.

An estimated 6 months worth of oil will "greatly decrease America’s dependence on muslim oil"? More lies. Thought the ANWR might be some sacred place to the greenie weenies, it is not to most people.

ANWR is the 2nd largest and most pristine wildlife refuge in America. It is often called "America’s Serengheti" Polls show the overwhelming majority of Americans oppose drilling for oil in ANWR. More Bucy lies. The cooler heads are the Bush administration.

Substitute the word "greedier" for cooler and you’re right.

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< What endangered species are you talking about? The Siberian tundra roach? More bad rationale. If it’s small, it must not be important.

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< What endangered species are you talking about? The Siberian tundra roach? More bad rationale. If it’s small, it must not be important.

Bucy is clueless about things like indicator species and what they mean to the overall health of an area. And what’s more he doesn’t care. It’s amazing how many people, even in this newsgroup, could care less if species are on the brink of extinction.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – At this point, the African-Americans are consistently voting 90%+ for whatever democrat is running, and with white women departing from the democrats, they can’t elect a dog catcher. At this point, the African-Americans have effectively, finally, totally marginalized themselves by their socialist extremism. Candidates and office holders no longer need to cow tow to them. They will now move from the most privileged but least productive demographic group, to no special privileges, but still least productive demographic group. It’s like bringing the East Germans back to reality and productivity. Takes a while. Expect severe whining. Not whining, just a blunt wakeup call. Now the Bush administration has enough rope to hang itself through full accountability and we’ll see how many Republicans truly care for your environment by not writing Bush a blank check on his anti-environmental policies. I suspect and hope that there are more pro-environmental Republicans than most Democrats think. Time will tell, especially with a new vote on ANWR which Bush will surely push. I just thank God that there are cooler heads in Washington that enabled the U.S. to get full U.N. Security Council acceptance of the Iraq inspections, instead of allowing Bush to turn his back on the world’s laws and go into Iraq on his own! Now as Americans we can all support our country when it goes to war with Iraq—–which I think is 99% assured. Jerry

If you think that the Republicans are going to start tearing down homes and planting trees, you are way off base. What you call "caring for the environment" is a marxist Gaia utopia that is not going to be worshiped by the vast majority of Americans. Drilling in the ANWR would not place the environment at risk, though it would greatly decrease Americas dependence on Muslim oil. Thought the ANWR might be some sacred place to the greenie weenies, it is not to most people. The cooler heads are the Bush administration. Getting UN approval of Bush’s plan will make the job of neutralizing Iraq easer and less expensive in both dollars and American lives. What are the "world’s laws" that you so fondly respect? Are these the laws that let a million Rwandans slaughter each other while the UN stood by and did nothing? Perhaps you are referring to laws that allowed tens of millions to perish under Stalin and Chairman Mao? What about the international laws that let Saddam gas his own people? The UN is a joke – a very sad joke. States with some of the worst human rights records sit on the UN committee for human rights. Today more people live as slaves that at any time in the history of this planet. Most of them are black and owned by other blacks. What has the UN done to stop the slave trade in Africa? Nothing! NAMBLA was sanctioned by the UN as a human rights group. http://www.qrd.org/qrd/orgs/NAMBLA/senate.demands.un.oust.nambla That is right, comrade, the bastion of your "world laws" fully supported and sanctioned pedophilia. I guess that you can find some moral equivalent to condone such behavior. The UN, though started with a worthy mandate, has devolved into a pack of criminals, socialists, and flakes. The UN lacks the courage or guts to actually get involved in the world in a way that would stop the carnage that it routinely watches from afar. If you are looking for a moral benchmark, I would suggest that you don’t waste your time with the UN. But if you want a date with a nice ten-year-old boy in Honduras, then by all means call the UN, they will have one of their multi-cultural gay pimps get right back to you. Pete Remove the "X" to send e-mail.

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They are "privileged" HOW? I’m guessing in the same light that homosexuals have "extra rights," i.e., in a political pawn’s wet dreams… Dan — + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + – + –

The democrats have become the party of minority factions and fringe elements. At this point, the African-Americans are consistently voting 90%+ for

whatever democrat is running, and with white women departing from the democrats, they can’t

elect a dog catcher. At this point, the African-Americans have effectively, finally, totally

marginalized themselves by their socialist extremism. Candidates and office holders no longer need to

cow tow to them. They will now move from the most privileged but least productive demographic

group, to no special privileges, but still least productive demographic group. It’s like

bringing the East Germans back – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – to reality and productivity. Takes a while. Expect severe whining.

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I’ve already heard that Bush wants the wetlands designation changed to not include independent bodies of water but only waters that are linked to major rivers, or something close to that. There are a lot of small, isolated stands of water that are very valuable to not only duck migrations but endangered species but that means nothing to Bush. Limited intelligence is dangerous when in the wrong heads, i.e., our leaders. Jerry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I keep looking but I can’t find the forests that Chaka and his greenie-weenies claim that the Republicans have destroyed nor can I find the bodies of the wildlife that they are accused of murdering. There you go again, putting words in my mouth. Up til now the senate and lawsuits by environmental groups have put a real crimp in Dubya’s anti-environmental, anti-backcountry agenda. But now the republicans will control the house and the senate. So our backcountry is seriously threatened now. I plan on increasing my donations to environmental groups exponentially. If we backcountry supporters and conservationists fail to stop him, you will start to see the forests and wildlife destruction. I don’t plan on giving you the satisfaction.

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Who are some of the more "environmental friendly" REPs ?

From the standpoint that population is the critical issue, then any Congressperson supporting immigration reform is valuable. It is my personal view, and one widely shared, that if we cannot stem the growth then all else is futile. Having spent much time in the Washington, DC political process be assured that Republicans can be swayed once they are convinced that "environment" is a hot button. Simply get "inside" and takeover. For a list of active pro-immigration reform types go to: alt.politics.immigration Posting 2002-11-06 "Roy Beck looks at this election" Murph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Face facts, the Democratic Party is becoming marginalized. It is the Party of minorities and those folks still espousing out moded social/financial concepts. Now is the time to work within the Republican organizations to "push" them towards a better environmental policy. A few voices active in the Party can cause significant policy changes. Can it work? You bet. Look at the influence certain radical elements have had on the once respected Democratic Party. Murph

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What endangered species are you talking about? The Siberian tundra roach? Pete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I keep looking but I can’t find the forests that Chaka and his greenie-weenies claim that the Republicans have destroyed nor can I find the bodies of the wildlife that they are accused of murdering. There you go again, putting words in my mouth. Up til now the senate and lawsuits by environmental groups have put a real crimp in Dubya’s anti-environmental, anti-backcountry agenda. But now the republicans will control the house and the senate. So our backcountry is seriously threatened now. I plan on increasing my donations to environmental groups exponentially. If we backcountry supporters and conservationists fail to stop him, you will start to see the forests and wildlife destruction. I don’t plan on giving you the satisfaction.

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The democrats have become the party of minority factions and fringe elements. They take just as much money from business as do the Republicans and they get a lot more from unions. Democrats have evolved from the pro-business days of John F. Kennedy to the marxist ways of Ted Kennedy and Paul Wellstone. Their support for a welfare state would have never been tolerated by John F. Kennedy. The goal of the democrats is for you to have fewer liberties. They do not support the second amendment to the constitution. In the world of the democrats only the police and criminals should have guns. The democrat speech police have been trying to squash freedom of speech on college campuses, government agencies, and in the media for years. Their political correctness movement has had students expelled for calling convicted child molesters "baby rapers." Any speech that offends a minority is strictly off limits too. It is silly and it is an infringement on our right to free speech. Democrats do not support choice in education. They want all school funding to be given to NEA controlled public schools. No matter how bad or unsafe a public school might be, they do not want poor children, especially minority children, to have the right to attend a good, safe private school. Democrats call Republicans racists. Yet it is we Republicans who support school vouchers. The democrats don’t want minority children to get a good education. It is much more important to the democrats to pander to the voters in the NEA than to educate children. Democrats support social programs that keep people in poverty. They make promises to improve these programs, but they can’t. The promote a social idea that you don’t have to get a good education or work hard to get ahead. And as far as Republican organizations working towards a better environment, that’s a very good start but what do you do with a President who is so anti-environment that it really doesn’t matter what citizens think—-he’s going to do what HE thinks will bring in the most money, regardless of environmental programs already in place?? I will say one thing for George Bush. What the man lacks in mental ability, he makes up for in will. But that’s not a comforting statement in worldly affairs, is it. Jerry

Jerry, just about everything that any of us do is anti-environment. Our homes and ve chicle consume resources, and expel toxic resources. The very fact that you live on this planet means that you are having a negative impact on the environment. If you want to do something good for the environment then follow the lemmings off a cliff. Bush advocates a different approach to the environment that you might propose. But that does not mean that he is destroying anything. Drilling in the ANWR can be done with virtually no impact on the environment. Logging and mining are both essential components in our economy. Nothing that Bush has proposed will put our environment at risk or destroy anything. Unlike the democrats, Bush is able to strike a good balance between our need for energy and natural resources and the environment. As I said, if Bush is destroying the environment, please send me some photos or news clippings. From where I stand, it looks pretty good to me. Pete Remove the "X" to send e-mail.

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Here in New Hampshire, our most liberal newspaper endorsed a Republican Senator for re-election, mostly on the basis of his environmental record. He lost. His name? BOB SMITH.

Sure, they endorsed Smith because they felt Shaheen couldn’t beat Sununu.

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Here in New Hampshire, our most liberal newspaper endorsed a Republican Senator for re-election, mostly on the basis of his environmental record. He lost. His name? BOB SMITH. Sure, they endorsed Smith because they felt Shaheen couldn’t beat Sununu.

No, they endorsed him because of his environmental record. He was the ranking Repub on the Environmental Committee, or whatever it’s called. From their endorsement: "But Smith has many points in his favor. He is far and away the better campaigner, a person who warms to people and understands their needs. Sununu is a lecturer, comfortable on the podium talking down to people. His priorities – tax reform and trade policy, for example – read like chapter headings in an economics textbook. Smith is independent, as he proved a couple of years back with his ballyhooed bolt from his party. That quality is not only admirable but also critical when the interests of a politician’s party and his constituents diverge. Sununu, by contrast, has served as another foot soldier for the GOP. On no issue has Smith’s independence come more into play than the environment, where he has emerged as a leader able to forge bipartisan compromise. Smith, broke with the administration over oil drilling in the Arctic wilderness. Sununu supports drilling, and while he offered amendments to limit its impact on the pristine area and to help pay for conservation programs, they were done less to protect the environment than to protect the chances that a bad bill would become law. Smith has grown considerably greener over the years, but that does not put him at odds with his party’s tradition. After all, conservative and conservation share the same root word. Smith authored a bill to clean up the nation’s contaminated brownfields so they can be returned to productivity. He worked to improve clean-air standards to eliminate the smog that chokes hikers atop the White Mountains. As chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, he was instrumental in the effort to reclaim the Florida Everglades, a national treasure. Sununu, meanwhile, has largely moved in lockstep with the administration on energy and the environment. These positions are not often in accord with the interests of a downwind state that caters to tourists" http://www.concordmonitor.com/stories/senaterace/2002/editsenate_2002…

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Face facts, the Democratic Party is becoming marginalized. It is the Party of minorities and those folks still espousing out moded social/financial concepts. Now is the time to work within the Republican organizations to "push" them towards a better environmental policy. A few voices active in the Party can cause significant policy changes. Can it work? You bet. Look at the influence certain radical elements have had on the once respected Democratic Party. Murph

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I keep looking but I can’t find the forests that Chaka and his greenie-weenies claim that the Republicans have destroyed nor can I find the bodies of the wildlife that they are accused of murdering. If one merely listens to the reports of the environmental marxists, you would think that the American environment had been destroyed by Bush a hundred times over. Where I live it is very rural. The water is clean, I have no trouble breathing the air, wildlife abounds and I can see no signs of Republicans dumping toxic waste or slaughtering the critters of the woods. To the best of my knowledge no mountains have gone missing and there seem to be trees growing everywhere. Has it dawned on anyone that the leftists are using fabricated environmental crises to further their marxist political goals? I have yet to meet an environmental activist who did not also support such marxist organizations as the green party or at least agree with their social goals. Pete Remove the "X" to send e-mail.

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Here in New Hampshire, our most liberal newspaper endorsed a Republican Senator for re-election, mostly on the basis of his environmental record. He lost. His name? BOB SMITH.

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Gee, that’s not the way I see it at all. I see the Democratic Party as the party "for the people" and not big business and money, i.e., more the party with a heart, so to speak. It’s the party that historically supported that part of the American public who aren’t able to "make ends meet" through day-to-day financial efforts. Although there actually isn’t that much of a difference between the two party’s way of how they run the overall country’s operations, the Democrats leave the public with the notion that their American liberties are in their own hands instead of in the hands of a few, powerful Republicans who tell them what they are going to do. And as far as Republican organizations working towards a better environment, that’s a very good start but what do you do with a President who is so anti-environment that it really doesn’t matter what citizens think—-he’s going to do what HE thinks will bring in the most money, regardless of environmental programs already in place?? I will say one thing for George Bush. What the man lacks in mental ability, he makes up for in will. But that’s not a comforting statement in worldly affairs, is it. Jerry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Face facts, the Democratic Party is becoming marginalized. It is the Party of minorities and those folks still espousing out moded social/financial concepts. Now is the time to work within the Republican organizations to "push" them towards a better environmental policy. A few voices active in the Party can cause significant policy changes. Can it work? You bet. Look at the influence certain radical elements have had on the once respected Democratic Party. Murph

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Who are some of the more "environmental friendly" REPs ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Face facts, the Democratic Party is becoming marginalized. It is the Party of minorities and those folks still espousing out moded social/financial concepts. Now is the time to work within the Republican organizations to "push" them towards a better environmental policy. A few voices active in the Party can cause significant policy changes. Can it work? You bet. Look at the influence certain radical elements have had on the once respected Democratic Party. Murph

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There you go again, putting words in my mouth. Up til now the senate and lawsuits by environmental groups have put a real crimp in Dubya’s anti-environmental, anti-backcountry agenda. But now the republicans will control the house and the senate. So our backcountry is seriously threatened now. I plan on increasing my donations to environmental groups exponentially. If we backcountry supporters and conservationists fail to stop him, you will start to see the forests and wildlife destruction. I don’t plan on giving you the satisfaction.

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