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Supreme Court neanderthals!

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It went something like this: Scalia: (shouting) "Boy!  Get in here!" Thomas: (to Scalia) "Yezza Mizza Scalia?" Scalia: (to Thomas)  "Boy, join me in this dissent." Thomas: (to Scalia)  "Yezza Mizza Scalia, right away suh." Scalia: (to himself)  "And remind me to send George a letter to thank him again for his helpful gift." Point: After the first fifty times, it starts to get suspicious when Clarence Thomas decides the same way as Antonin Scalia.  Why not just say that Scalia gets two votes and get rid of Thomas.  Could be a new republican cost cutting measure.                                                                   K.

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}It went something like this: } }Scalia: (shouting) "Boy!  Get in here!" } }Thomas: (to Scalia) "Yezza Mizza Scalia?" } }Scalia: (to Thomas)  "Boy, join me in this dissent." } }Thomas: (to Scalia)  "Yezza Mizza Scalia, right away suh." } }Scalia: (to himself)  "And remind me to send George a letter to thank him }again for his helpful gift."

    Why no mention of Thomas’ "Long Dong", or the hours he spends   "Romancing the Bone"?      Mitchell Holman        "I should have remembered that was Andrew Jackson who said that, since         he got his nickname `Stonewall’ by vetoing bills passed by Congress."         — Vice President Dan Quayle, confusing Andrew Jackson with Confederate         General Thomas J. `Stonewall’ Jackson, who actually got his nickname at         the first Battle of Bull Run.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – jwells  writes:    jwells Since gays and lesbians chose their lifestyle and are not born "queer", Please provide your proof of this.  It was my understanding that this was an open question. Also please let me know what _the_ gay lifestyle is.  I know many gays, and they have as many lifestyles. Finally, what is the relevancy of choice in determining basic human rights?    jwells then race does not play into the equation. Why should sexual behavior be    jwells protected. Should the same protection also be given to rapist, etc.. THe rapist has a victim and therefore has sacrificed many of their rights.  What victims does a gay person have? ahChildren, too often.

But I am confused. I know the major problems of homosexuality – high probability of death from AIDS, the fact that homosexuality practices make no biological sense, and the psychological trauma of committing practics abhored by the majority of the population. But would someone tell me what is even one positive good coming from engaging in homosexual practics? I am confused. — TYMON’S TIRADES’ ANGRY EDITOR; Proprietor, TYMON’S TRY-B4-BUY BOOK CLUB (URL: http://www.av.qnet.com/~frank/)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – jwells  writes:    jwells Since gays and lesbians chose their lifestyle and are not born "queer", Please provide your proof of this.  It was my understanding that this was an open question. Also please let me know what _the_ gay lifestyle is.  I know many gays, and they have as many lifestyles. Finally, what is the relevancy of choice in determining basic human rights?    jwells then race does not play into the equation. Why should sexual behavior be    jwells protected. Should the same protection also be given to rapist, etc.. THe rapist has a victim and therefore has sacrificed many of their rights.  What victims does a gay person have? ahChildren, too often. But I am confused.

Not only about homosexual sex I know the major problems of homosexuality – high probability of death from AIDS, the fact that homosexuality practices make no biological

There is a high probability of disease and/or death from ANY sexual relation with ANYONE else. Swap bodily fluids, you can get all kinds of nasties. sense, and the psychological trauma of committing practics abhored by Biological sense? What is the point of heterosexual sex with birth control? Masturbation? Putting objects up your butt? (You no doubt have done of these "senseless" things yourself. the majority of the population.

As for "abhored by the majority of the population"—- you believe we should both legislate morality, and enshrine the tyranny of the majority in the Constitution— completely subverting its intent to protect minorities from the majority?  The Supreme Court just ruled against anti-gay ordinances, BTW. But would someone tell me what is even one positive good coming from engaging in homosexual practics?

Hmm.  It could be fabulous sex, and bonding with a lover and life-mate.  I am confused. —

Take a sex ed course; visit a "mixed" bar and observe people having fun.                 Dave Braun

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This is America.  If you can’t stand the freedom, get out of the country. And as usual, when asked what he thought of  Justice Scalia’s opinion Justice Clarence "Uncle" Thomas merely grunted, "DITTO." What, someone else noticed the puppet master and the marionette? Rod

Careful there Rod. Questioning Justice "Uncle" Thomas will get you branded a racist by the right-wingers on here. It is a long sad story involving a lot of stupidity and reactionary heads up reactionary asses.      Jim "I’m here, I’m in your face, and I’m Republican. Get used to it, I’m a freshman!"  Steve Stockman (R-Texas) to Environmental Protesters

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – }It went something like this: } }Scalia: (shouting) "Boy!  Get in here!" } }Thomas: (to Scalia) "Yezza Mizza Scalia?" } }Scalia: (to Thomas)  "Boy, join me in this dissent." } }Thomas: (to Scalia)  "Yezza Mizza Scalia, right away suh." } }Scalia: (to himself)  "And remind me to send George a letter to thank him }again for his helpful gift."    Why no mention of Thomas’ "Long Dong", or the hours he spends  "Romancing the Bone"?

"Is that a pubic hair on your Coke can?"          Clarence Thomas to Anita Hill "I’m here, I’m in your face, and I’m Republican. Get used to it, I’m a freshman!"  Steve Stockman (R-Texas) to Environmental Protesters

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But I am confused. I know the major problems of homosexuality – high probability of death from AIDS, the fact that homosexuality practices make no biological sense, and the psychological trauma of committing practics abhored by the majority of the population. But would someone tell me what is even one positive good coming from engaging in homosexual practics? I am confused. —

The first sentence is true and the last. The rest of your statements are not true. One positive good–loving relationships.   –Wit consists in seeing the resemblance bewteen things which differ, and the difference between things which are alike.                   Madame de Stael

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Since gays and lesbians chose their lifestyle and are not born "queer", then race does not play into the equation. Why should sexual behavior be protected. Should the same protection also be given to rapist, etc.. Sexual behavior is based on inherent desires.  Straight people are straight because they’re attracted to people of the opposite sex, gay people are gay because they’re attracted to persons of the same sex. Claiming that it’s okay for heterosexuals to act on their consensual erotic desire but not okay for gay people to do the same is ludicrous. Attraction is not chosen, it is inate and biologically determined.

You think so?  I do not know.  How do you know?  Tell me though, I would assume that there is some fault or confusion in the genetic structure of a bisexual, don’t you think? Regards, Harold —– "I think that a man should not live beyond the age when he begins to deteriorate, when the flame that lighted the brightest moment of his life has weakened."         —Fidel Castro, Letter, 19 Dec. 1953 (published in Carlos         Franqui, Diary of the Cuban Revolution, 1980, p. 67)

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Since gays and lesbians chose their lifestyle and are not born "queer", then race does not play into the equation. Why should sexual behavior be protected. Should the same protection also be given to rapist, etc..

Sexual behavior is based on inherent desires.  Straight people are straight because they’re attracted to people of the opposite sex, gay people are gay because they’re attracted to persons of the same sex. Claiming that it’s okay for heterosexuals to act on their consensual erotic desire but not okay for gay people to do the same is ludicrous. Attraction is not chosen, it is inate and biologically determined.                                                                K.

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Since gays and lesbians chose their lifestyle and are not born "queer", then race does not play into the equation. Why should sexual behavior be protected. Should the same protection also be given to rapist, etc..

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and are not born "queer", then race does not play into the equation."      I disagree that sexual orientation is a choice.  I don’t recall choosing mine.  When did you choose yours?  And why on earth would anyone choose to be a member of a hated and harrassed minority if the alternative is simply to be a member of the accepted majority? <<" Why should sexual behavior be protected. Should the same protection also be given to rapist, etc.."      No.

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This is America.  If you can’t stand the freedom, get out of the country. And as usual, when asked what he thought of  Justice Scalia’s opinion Justice Clarence "Uncle" Thomas merely grunted, "DITTO."

What, someone else noticed the puppet master and the marionette? Rod — |        + + +   + + + + +        | http://www.nether.net/~rod/html/ | ***** | |    *  *  *     *  *  *  *  *    |                                  |  ***  | |R   o   d       S   w   i   f   t| The Christian Right is *neither* |   *   |

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and are not born "queer", then race does not play into the equation."     I disagree that sexual orientation is a choice.  I don’t recall choosing mine.  When did you choose yours?  And why on earth would anyone choose to be a member of a hated and harrassed minority if the alternative is simply to be a member of the accepted majority?

I myself often wonder why anyone would want to be a Republican too!      Jim "I’m here, I’m in your face, and I’m Republican. Get used to it, I’m a freshman!"  Steve Stockman (R-Texas) to Environmental Protesters

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[snip] It is true that he will be on the court for life, but he and Scalia aren’t ever going to ever be anything but the 2 loony  votes that make up the minority. Rhenquist is getting old and will soon be replaced by the new line of Democratic Presidents we are about to have. Stick your charges of racism up your ass you right-wing fool.    Jim

Has anyone every seen that cartoon, I think it’s called "Pinky and the Brain" or something like that.  Is this guy "the Brain" or what?  Seriously, he’s a slithering, slobbering, blithering, ignorant racist, rapidly becoming an embarrassment to his buddies on the left.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snip] It is true that he will be on the court for life, but he and Scalia aren’t ever going to ever be anything but the 2 loony  votes that make up the minority. Rhenquist is getting old and will soon be replaced by the new line of Democratic Presidents we are about to have. Stick your charges of racism up your ass you right-wing fool.    Jim Has anyone every seen that cartoon, I think it’s called "Pinky and the Brain" or something like that.  Is this guy "the Brain" or what?  Seriously, he’s a slithering, slobbering, blithering, ignorant racist, rapidly becoming an embarrassment to his buddies on the left.

No but we have seen Tom and the Dickhead. And we all know which part you play Shouse.      Jim "I’m here, I’m in your face, and I’m Republican. Get used to it, I’m a freshman!"  Steve Stockman (R-Texas) to Environmental Protesters

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And as usual, when asked what he thought of  Justice Scalia’s opinion Justice Clarence "Uncle" Thomas merely grunted, "DITTO."     Jim Now Jim, stop being a racist pig.  Just because an African-American actually has the gall to be an individual, and not a mind-numbed dependent of the radical hate-filled left; and just because he doesn’t agree with YOU; doesn’t give you the right to make such a low comment.

Here we go again. Clarence Thomas is an ignorant, ass kissing Tom. He consistantly votes with the two biggest reactionary dickheads on the court. Isn’t it great that Clarence Thomas can give us a wonderful example of sucsess?  All the insults from people like Jim and all of the attacks can’t change the fact that he’s on the court FOR LIFE!

What example? He used affirmative action to get where he is and is now working as hard as he can to see that no one else gets the same opportunity. He just voted today to deny civil rights to an American citizen based on who they have sex with. It is true that he will be on the court for life, but he and Scalia aren’t ever going to ever be anything but the 2 loony  votes that make up the minority. Rhenquist is getting old and will soon be replaced by the new line of Democratic Presidents we are about to have. Stick your charges of racism up your ass you right-wing fool.     Jim "I’m here, I’m in your face, and I’m Republican. Get used to it, I’m a freshman!"  Steve Stockman (R-Texas) to Environmental Protesters

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And as usual, when asked what he thought of  Justice Scalia’s opinion Justice Clarence "Uncle" Thomas merely grunted, "DITTO."     Jim

Now Jim, stop being a racist pig.  Just because an African-American actually has the gall to be an individual, and not a mind-numbed dependent of the radical hate-filled left; and just because he doesn’t agree with YOU; doesn’t give you the right to make such a low comment. Isn’t it great that Clarence Thomas can give us a wonderful example of sucsess?  All the insults from people like Jim and all of the attacks can’t change the fact that he’s on the court FOR LIFE! Jon

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In his dissenting opinion, Scalia seemed at times torn between belittling the ruling — he called it "terminal silliness" at one point and declared that "the court has mistaken a Kulturkampf," German for "culture war," "for a fit of spite" — and describing it as a mistake of profound significance. He described homosexuals as a group with "high disposable income" and "disproportionate political power" with "enormous influence in American media and politics." Another profound dissenting decision. And now back into your caves. I find it amusing that Scalia would dare get so uppity in this case.  He, above all the justices, is known for being biased by ultra-conservatives and not writing very credible opinions.  It surprised me that he’s quite so rabid.  It’s very clear why the six majority justices voted as they did: It was the only way they could keep from setting a VERY dangerous precedent.  If Colorado is allowed to prevent gay and lesbian people from seeking legal redress, what’s to keep states like Idaho from doing the same thing to Jews or blacks? If America is to remain the land of the free, it is imperitive that everyone have equal rights whether you agree with their position or not. If group A is allowed to undermine the rights of groups B, then there’s nothing to keep group C from doing the same to B. This is America.  If you can’t stand the freedom, get out of the country.

And as usual, when asked what he thought of  Justice Scalia’s opinion Justice Clarence "Uncle" Thomas merely grunted, "DITTO."      Jim

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In his dissenting opinion, Scalia seemed at times torn between belittling the ruling — he called it "terminal silliness" at one point and declared that "the court has mistaken a Kulturkampf," German for "culture war," "for a fit of spite" — and describing it as a mistake of profound significance. He described homosexuals as a group with "high disposable income" and "disproportionate political power" with "enormous influence in American media and politics." Another profound dissenting decision. And now back into your caves.

I find it amusing that Scalia would dare get so uppity in this case.  He, above all the justices, is known for being biased by ultra-conservatives and not writing very credible opinions.  It surprised me that he’s quite so rabid.  It’s very clear why the six majority justices voted as they did: It was the only way they could keep from setting a VERY dangerous precedent.  If Colorado is allowed to prevent gay and lesbian people from seeking legal redress, what’s to keep states like Idaho from doing the same thing to Jews or blacks? If America is to remain the land of the free, it is imperitive that everyone have equal rights whether you agree with their position or not. If group A is allowed to undermine the rights of groups B, then there’s nothing to keep group C from doing the same to B. This is America.  If you can’t stand the freedom, get out of the country.                                                                         K.

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From The New York Times, May 21, 1996:   In a significant victory for gay rights, the Supreme Court on Monday struck down a provision of the Colorado constitution that not only nullified existing civil rights protections for homosexuals in the state but also barred the passage of new anti-discrimination laws. Justice Antonin Scalia filed an equally forceful dissent, accusing the majority of taking sides in "the culture wars" through "an act not of judicial judgment but of political will." Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justice Clarence Thomas joined Scalia’s dissenting opinion on Monday, accusing the majority of "inventing a novel and extravagant constitutional doctrine to take the victory away from traditional forces." Justice Scalia said the Colorado amendment was an "eminently reasonable" means of preventing the "piecemeal deterioration of the sexual morality favored by a majority of Coloradans." In his dissenting opinion, Scalia seemed at times torn between belittling the ruling — he called it "terminal silliness" at one point and declared that "the court has mistaken a Kulturkampf," German for "culture war," "for a fit of spite" — and describing it as a mistake of profound significance. He described homosexuals as a group with "high disposable income" and "disproportionate political power" with "enormous influence in American media and politics." Another profound dissenting decision. And now back into your caves. HR

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