Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them – (see for example 'The Hoxsey Documentary')

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Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them ‘ How To Read The License Of Medical Doctors – Part III                    Nor does their license warn the public in this                    wise:                         "Before you visit a licensed medical doctor,                          be sure to KNOW MUCH MORE THAN HE (or she)                          does, about possibilities of treatment and                          about likely causes of your discomfort,                          your illness or your suffering."                                In general, one could state:                                The more a medical doctor claims                                to be an expert, the less he                                in actual fact can be expected                                to be knowledgeable [to know things                                he should know].                                He can’t even admit what he does                                NOT know – which is a very low                                level of knowledge indeed.  *(6) ‘                                The most "expert" medical doctors                                do not even know THAT they do not                                know so very much regarding the                                actions they perform on their                                patients.                                      But this also did not hinder                                      them in the Middle Ages, or                                      at the time of Hippocrates,                                      in claiming to be experts…                                      "THE experts," even.                                Medical doctors, then as now, are                                only a small subset of those who                                can heal.                                But they use the vilest Criminal                                Minds, to get "accepted," that                                "only they can heal," while                                in fact THEY are quacks and charlatans                                themselves, as is                                obvious from their total lack of                                the most vital knowledge and skill                                of their profession. ‘                                      Any even faintly educated                                      professional – and, certainly                                      even more so, the layman who                                      suffers it – knows, that                                      the field of medical science                                      is lacking indeed in the most                                      basic knowledge about keeping                                      people healthy,                                      and lacking                                           – not only in the ability                                             to heal, but also lacking,                                             almost completely –                                      in understanding those type of                                      diseases that prevail nowadays                                      in our advanced society. ‘ Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet                                        ’Solomon’s wisdom was greater                                                   than the wisdom of                                              all the men of the East,                                                          and greater                                         than all the wisdom of Egypt.’                                                         1 Kings 4:30      ’Current State of Mental Health Care And Understanding       – Consequences For Decision Makers, Caretakers And Caregivers’       {HRI 20021209-V3.1} – (9 Dec 2002 – Version 3.1 on 27 Sept 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/98b407408d4daf50?fwc=1        (full text:) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/98b407408d4daf50?dmode=sou… ‘ Footnote: (6)  ’Explaining The Scale Of Sanity’ {HRI 20040619-V3.4}         (19 June 2004) (Version 3.4 on 2 Sept 2004) http://www.googlegroups.com/group/alt.education/msg/7ee775b1a7d5b10f?… ‘ Earlier Quotes from {HRI 20021209-V3.1} :      ’Are ALL Licensed Medical Doctors Criminal? No!’        (13 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/ec75ccee2e34a304?…      ’Medical Doctors Can Seriously Damage Your Health’        (15 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/c88214dabda6d7fe?…      ’Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them’        (9 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/12bfd20d19196e11?fwc=1      ’The Licensed Medical Doctors ARE The Dangerous Quacks,       and Charlatans All’        (10 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/04006a8681abc39d?fwc=1      ’A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade – Medical       Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals       CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind’        (13 February 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/6d0a6cea040b6719?fwc=1 ‘ References:      ’Prices of Medical Drugs Compared To Manufacturing Costs And        To Country Of Sale – The "Bill Gates Factor" ‘         (5 February 2005 – Version 2.3.1 on 8 Feb 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/938b77517250042…      ’Explaining The Scale Of Sanity’ {HRI 20040619-V3.4}         (19 June 2004) (Version 3.4 on 2 Sept 2004) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/msg/7ee775b1a7d5b10f?fwc=1      ’What IS Depression or Lethargy’ {HRI 20041107-V2.2}         (7 November 2004 – Version 2.2 on 14 Dec 2004) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/e3f79cb2f78d2145?fwc=1      ’The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth – Life Energy Particles        - Perception At A Distance’ {HRI 20010829-pi9-V2.0}         (29 August 2001 – part issue 9 Version 2.0 on 21 Aug 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/3c571f55d616… ‘      ’The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth’ {HRI 20010829} (9 parts issued) http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/ca03e63aa716… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/660053d9538d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/2529732655e6… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/a5c1ca01fa70… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/8d4e1bb6424a… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/70dd57d6d11d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/b030e02be2ba… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/48c04344037d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/3c571f55d616…      ’The Trinity Of Science – Truth, Love and Beauty’         {HRI 20030307-pi-1-V2.1} (7 Mar 2003 – Ver. 2.1 on 17 Oct 2003) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67840… ‘ Verification:             http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld Copyright 2002-2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite – human rights philosopher  and poet This is ‘learnware’ – it may not be altered, and it is free for  anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it)  who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,  to others who might be able to learn from it. 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Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them ‘ How To Read The License Of Medical Doctors – Part III                   Nor does their license warn the public in this                   wise:                        "Before you visit a licensed medical doctor,                         be sure to KNOW MUCH MORE THAN HE (or she)                         does, about possibilities of treatment and                         about likely causes of your discomfort,                         your illness or your suffering."

Then, why consult a doctor at all? Maybe we should just make an appoint with you when we need to receive treatment for a health problem. How long have you been writing for comics?

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Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them

Medical doctors are like fire. The can be very dangerous but very necessary at the same time. When I was about to have surgery done it took me awhile to accept the idea of someone rummaging around in my head. Soon I had to decide to trust my doctor. I know good specialists are small. I’ve seen many Neurologists over the last 40 years. Only four of them were good doctors and humans. The rest are ego-maniacs that don’t want to accept that they claim to know about something that is still a mystery to human knowledge. But even the worst I saw had vastly more knowledge than I did. They need to be used as a tool. Used as necessary but within the limits of logic and reason. Good carpenters their hammers to pound nails. They doesn’t trust their hammer to tell them the size of the nail or when to use a screw instead. Know your medical situation as well as possible. The good doctors don’t mind questions and usually encourage them. The ego-maniacs don’t want anything that even hints of a challenge around them.  The good doctors won’t let their egos interfere. Many doctors really dis-like a patient that looks up to them like god and blindly takes any remedy they are told. They prefer a decision was made between the patient and the doctor. Sometimes they encourage the use of alternate medications to supplement their medical remedies. Be aware that doctors are human, whether they deny it or not. Their bank of information is based on what humans knew in the past. Mistakes can be made and truth can be ignored. — Dave Keays

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The topic I posted as per below mentioned link can be relevant:- http://groups.google.co.in/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_frm/thread… Since they have to deal with live humans not stuffed toys, strict norms about time devotion per patient(may charge as per time spent), No waiting(to be strict as per appointment time otherwise compensation )should be made, capabilites should be occasionally checked as per latest research(just equal to research people) and penalities for negligencies should be regulated by central regulatory authorities–esp. in more populated and under-developed areas. This will avoid monopoly and concentration of patients to one or few specialists for all stages and will justify the treatments. In short, patients should be equally respected and taken care off. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them ‘ How To Read The License Of Medical Doctors – Part III                    Nor does their license warn the public in this                    wise:                         "Before you visit a licensed medical doctor,                          be sure to KNOW MUCH MORE THAN HE (or she)                          does, about possibilities of treatment and                          about likely causes of your discomfort,                          your illness or your suffering."                                In general, one could state:                                The more a medical doctor claims                                to be an expert, the less he                                in actual fact can be expected                                to be knowledgeable [to know things                                he should know].                                He can’t even admit what he does                                NOT know – which is a very low                                level of knowledge indeed.  *(6) ‘                                The most "expert" medical doctors                                do not even know THAT they do not                                know so very much regarding the                                actions they perform on their                                patients.                                      But this also did not hinder                                      them in the Middle Ages, or                                      at the time of Hippocrates,                                      in claiming to be experts…                                      "THE experts," even.                                Medical doctors, then as now, are                                only a small subset of those who                                can heal.                                But they use the vilest Criminal                                Minds, to get "accepted," that                                "only they can heal," while                                in fact THEY are quacks and charlatans                                themselves, as is                                obvious from their total lack of                                the most vital knowledge and skill                                of their profession. ‘                                      Any even faintly educated                                      professional – and, certainly                                      even more so, the layman who                                      suffers it – knows, that                                      the field of medical science                                      is lacking indeed in the most                                      basic knowledge about keeping                                      people healthy,                                      and lacking                                           – not only in the ability                                             to heal, but also lacking,                                             almost completely –                                      in understanding those type of                                      diseases that prevail nowadays                                      in our advanced society. ‘ Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet                                        ’Solomon’s wisdom was greater                                                   than the wisdom of                                              all the men of the East,                                                          and greater                                         than all the wisdom of Egypt.’                                                         1 Kings 4:30      ’Current State of Mental Health Care And Understanding       – Consequences For Decision Makers, Caretakers And Caregivers’       {HRI 20021209-V3.1} – (9 Dec 2002 – Version 3.1 on 27 Sept 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/98b407408d4daf50?fwc=1        (full text:) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/98b407408d4daf50?dmode=sou… ‘ Footnote: (6)  ’Explaining The Scale Of Sanity’ {HRI 20040619-V3.4}         (19 June 2004) (Version 3.4 on 2 Sept 2004) http://www.googlegroups.com/group/alt.education/msg/7ee775b1a7d5b10f?… ‘ Earlier Quotes from {HRI 20021209-V3.1} :      ’Are ALL Licensed Medical Doctors Criminal? No!’        (13 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/ec75ccee2e34a304?…      ’Medical Doctors Can Seriously Damage Your Health’        (15 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/c88214dabda6d7fe?…      ’Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them’        (9 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/12bfd20d19196e11?fwc=1      ’The Licensed Medical Doctors ARE The Dangerous Quacks,       and Charlatans All’        (10 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/04006a8681abc39d?fwc=1      ’A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade – Medical       Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals       CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind’        (13 February 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/6d0a6cea040b6719?fwc=1 ‘ References:      ’Prices of Medical Drugs Compared To Manufacturing Costs And        To Country Of Sale – The "Bill Gates Factor" ‘         (5 February 2005 – Version 2.3.1 on 8 Feb 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/938b77517250042…      ’Explaining The Scale Of Sanity’ {HRI 20040619-V3.4}         (19 June 2004) (Version 3.4 on 2 Sept 2004) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/msg/7ee775b1a7d5b10f?fwc=1      ’What IS Depression or Lethargy’ {HRI 20041107-V2.2}         (7 November 2004 – Version 2.2 on 14 Dec 2004) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/e3f79cb2f78d2145?fwc=1      ’The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth – Life Energy Particles        - Perception At A Distance’ {HRI 20010829-pi9-V2.0}         (29 August 2001 – part issue 9 Version 2.0 on 21 Aug 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/3c571f55d616… ‘      ’The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth’ {HRI 20010829} (9 parts issued) http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/ca03e63aa716… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/660053d9538d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/2529732655e6… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/a5c1ca01fa70… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/8d4e1bb6424a… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/70dd57d6d11d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/b030e02be2ba… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/48c04344037d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/3c571f55d616…      ’The Trinity Of Science – Truth, Love and Beauty’         {HRI 20030307-pi-1-V2.1} (7 Mar 2003 – Ver. 2.1 on 17 Oct 2003) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67840… ‘ Verification:             http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld Copyright 2002-2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite – human rights philosopher  and poet This is ‘learnware’ – it may not be altered, and it is free for  anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it)  who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,  to others who might be able to learn from it. None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political  or religious or scientific agenda, but only to educate, and to  encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,  about any organizations or individuals. Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:  PlatoWorld at Lycos.com   (address unreadable for Internet robots

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Are you an idiot or something. How is the doctors fault for lacking some knowledge you need them to have. No one person can have all the answers. It is YOUR responsibility to know as you said. They do the best they can for what they know. This doesn’t mean they are charlatans. It is always wise to know everything you can about your problem before seeing a Dr. and it is always wise to see the best if you know. It however is foolish and against any biblical principal to consider who you are seeing a criminal. ((("But they use the vilest Criminal Minds, to get "accepted," that "only they can heal," while in fact THEY are quacks and charlatans themselves")))) I have had some bad ones and some good ones too. If your mad at some docs tell us your story but telling us that they are all bad…. well it makes me wonder if you are very very young. Her is another great statement by Koos whom you quoted. "Anyone who denies the existence of telepathy is someone who has a hidden agenda, and that hidden agenda is to harm life – your life, his own life, anyone’s life." Why would you follow someone who was put in an asylum and kicked out of scientology for being a fruit loop. And now states he is channelling the spirit of L Ron Hubbard from a distant galaxy. Takes all kinds

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them ‘ How To Read The License Of Medical Doctors – Part III                   Nor does their license warn the public in this                   wise:                        "Before you visit a licensed medical doctor,                         be sure to KNOW MUCH MORE THAN HE (or she)                         does, about possibilities of treatment and                         about likely causes of your discomfort,                         your illness or your suffering."                               In general, one could state:                               The more a medical doctor claims                               to be an expert, the less he                               in actual fact can be expected                               to be knowledgeable [to know things                               he should know].                               He can’t even admit what he does                               NOT know – which is a very low                               level of knowledge indeed.  *(6) ‘                               The most "expert" medical doctors                               do not even know THAT they do not                               know so very much regarding the                               actions they perform on their                               patients.                                     But this also did not hinder                                     them in the Middle Ages, or                                     at the time of Hippocrates,                                     in claiming to be experts…                                     "THE experts," even.                               Medical doctors, then as now, are                               only a small subset of those who                               can heal.                               But they use the vilest Criminal                               Minds, to get "accepted," that                               "only they can heal," while                               in fact THEY are quacks and charlatans                               themselves, as is                               obvious from their total lack of                               the most vital knowledge and skill                               of their profession. ‘                                     Any even faintly educated                                     professional – and, certainly                                     even more so, the layman who                                     suffers it – knows, that                                     the field of medical science                                     is lacking indeed in the most                                     basic knowledge about keeping                                     people healthy,                                     and lacking                                          - not only in the ability                                            to heal, but also lacking,                                            almost completely –                                     in understanding those type of                                     diseases that prevail nowadays                                     in our advanced society. ‘ Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet                                       ‘Solomon’s wisdom was greater                                                  than the wisdom of                                             all the men of the East,                                                         and greater                                        than all the wisdom of Egypt.’                                                        1 Kings 4:30     ‘Current State of Mental Health Care And Understanding      - Consequences For Decision Makers, Caretakers And Caregivers’      {HRI 20021209-V3.1} – (9 Dec 2002 – Version 3.1 on 27 Sept 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/98b407408d4daf50?fwc=1       (full text:) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/98b407408d4daf50?dmode=sou… ‘ Footnote: (6)  ’Explaining The Scale Of Sanity’ {HRI 20040619-V3.4}        (19 June 2004) (Version 3.4 on 2 Sept 2004) http://www.googlegroups.com/group/alt.education/msg/7ee775b1a7d5b10f?… ‘ Earlier Quotes from {HRI 20021209-V3.1} :     ‘Are ALL Licensed Medical Doctors Criminal? No!’       (13 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/ec75ccee2e34a304?…     ‘Medical Doctors Can Seriously Damage Your Health’       (15 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/c88214dabda6d7fe?…     ‘Stay Away From Medical Doctors …UNLESS You Know About Them’       (9 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/12bfd20d19196e11?fwc=1     ‘The Licensed Medical Doctors ARE The Dangerous Quacks,      and Charlatans All’       (10 February 2006) (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/04006a8681abc39d?fwc=1     ‘A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade – Medical      Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals      CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind’       (13 February 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/6d0a6cea040b6719?fwc=1 ‘ References:     ‘Prices of Medical Drugs Compared To Manufacturing Costs And       To Country Of Sale – The "Bill Gates Factor" ‘        (5 February 2005 – Version 2.3.1 on 8 Feb 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/938b77517250042…     ‘Explaining The Scale Of Sanity’ {HRI 20040619-V3.4}        (19 June 2004) (Version 3.4 on 2 Sept 2004) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/msg/7ee775b1a7d5b10f?fwc=1     ‘What IS Depression or Lethargy’ {HRI 20041107-V2.2}        (7 November 2004 – Version 2.2 on 14 Dec 2004) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/e3f79cb2f78d2145?fwc=1     ‘The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth – Life Energy Particles       – Perception At A Distance’ {HRI 20010829-pi9-V2.0}        (29 August 2001 – part issue 9 Version 2.0 on 21 Aug 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/3c571f55d616… ‘     ‘The Nature Of Life As Seen From Earth’ {HRI 20010829} (9 parts issued) http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/ca03e63aa716… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/660053d9538d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/2529732655e6… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/a5c1ca01fa70… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/8d4e1bb6424a… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/70dd57d6d11d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/b030e02be2ba… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/48c04344037d… http://groups.google.com/group/Fine-Particle-Physics/msg/3c571f55d616…     ‘The Trinity Of Science – Truth, Love and Beauty’        {HRI 20030307-pi-1-V2.1} (7 Mar 2003 – Ver. 2.1 on 17 Oct 2003) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67840… ‘ Verification:            http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld Copyright 2002-2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite – human rights philosopher and poet This is ‘learnware’ – it may not be altered, and it is free for anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it) who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to others who might be able to learn from it. 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