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You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." somewhat anonymous Scientologist named Theta. in some newsgroups he uses his first name and in others his last as well. (‘cuse me for speaking of you in the third person.) I did get miffed at him for touting Psychbusters as an independent antipsychiatric group which and sent out a post about that. other than I hope you Skeptic Tank people have gotten less dogmatic yourself because when I wrote to your group requesting that you perhaps do some critical articles on (mainstream) psychiatry I got a super-rude response in return.

Yes, I observed that and as I recall I emailed you with an admittedly pathetic excuse and apology — or if it wasn’t you it was someone else who experienced what you did. a.r.s participants are just as dogmatic and resistant to change as anyone — myself included — however I’m willing to change my notions when presented with evidence.[1] Many of the people in a.r.s are victims of the financial swindle of Scientology and they’re very sore about their lost years, their lost money, and many their lost family members who have been ordered to "disconnect" from the outside world. I believe I e-mailed you and mentioned that I, too, dislike the mental health industry greatly for all the verifiable reasons. Many of the a.r.s participants are well aware of the massive failings and frauds of the mental health industry, and some are members of groups wihch oppose some things — like the drugging of kids who don’t need it. None of which detracts from the core criminality of Scientology, though. [1] Shydavid and myself both used to defend Scientology and were in opposition to the old Cult Awareness network. We thought that CAN was a Christian cult that sought to extract followers from other Christian cults to join theirs. We also thought Scientology was picked upon by Christians because it was an alternative religion. It took us years to come to the realization that CAN was a bonified organization and that Scientology’s criminal history is wholly accurate. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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Hey Mike (Theta) you have a large fan club it seems

<laughing Yep. One Xenu dollar says Mike can’t address any of the truth about Scientology and its fraudulent fake fronts honestly or openly. Personally I’d ignore Mike and his buddies were it not for the fact that Scientology kills people thanks to their mad messiah’s insane quack medical notions. You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." I thought I’d drop in a brief note to offer a bit of background into the swindles and frauds that Scientology engages in as a routine matter of their organized criminal enterprise. First off Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front is Scientology regardless of the fact that the cult endlessly tries to deny it. The crooks tried to sneak into Bowdon, Georgia under their fake name "Narconon" and when the people of the township found out they were really Scientology almost came close to being damn near tarred and feathered and run out of town: http://www.crackpots.org/ http://www.narconon-exposed.org/

— "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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Not only did the cultist not address any of the factual information provided in my posting, he decided to try to attack the person. It’s a written policy Scientology has that’s usually called the "Always attack, never defend" policy. In fact Make is lying. Scientology isn’t a "faith" in any sense of the word but it _is_ organized crime, something that "anti-Scientology" folks address. You’ll note that the people who expose Scientology’s homicides and other crimes always attack the _criminal_ activities of the cult and only laugh at the bunco bait-and-switch frauds like Xenu. Nobody would give a shit about Scientology were it not for the deaths and maiming. Were it not for that Scientology would just be another flying saucer cult that everyone ignored. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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http://www.cosvm.info/ has the intercepted e-mails as well and includes comments by the Red Cross and other agencies that had to not only handle the aftermath of the terrorist attacks but also had to deal with the Scientology crooks trying to make money and public relations hay out of the misery. And then _here_ for how they treat their own members: http://www.lisamcpherson.org

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I take these anti-Scientology posts with the same grain of salt as I take the fundamentalist ravings that occasionally appear here and there. you might not if you followed up the links. ignore the humorlessness of the posts, they do have a point about the Church’s policies and values. Start _here_ with the cult’s despicable behavior after 9/11: http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/20010911-tragedy/ And then _here_ for how they treat their own members: http://www.lisamcpherson.org The Catholic Church have a lot to answer for too.. are catholics going to be pack attacked every time they post?

When they advocate or hide the rape of children, certainly, yes. When Scientology’s activities are exposed it’s their core criminality that’s covered, just as it is when priests or nuns are exposed for their crimes. If you or anyone else doesn’t like it, tough; the only reason why child rape in the Catholic cult manages to survive as long as it has is because few wanted to expose or deal with the problem. Along came the Internet and now any cult’s epidemic criminality is fair game for exposure. The notion that one can claim religious exemption from exposure is one of the more idiotic things I’ve seen people propose, incidentally — not that I suspect you’re doing so. whatever happened to freedom of worship?

Freedom of worship doesn’t mean freedom to murder. Scientology claims they had the right to murder Lisa McPherson under Florida’s adoption of a "Religious Freedom Restoration Act." The Judge ruled that Scientology couldn’t have the case dismissed just because it claimed to be a religion. The laws apply to everyone — including criminal enterprises that murder girls. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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As far as I can tell, Mike, you’ve never recruited anyone, or even tried to recruit anyone here at All-Faiths. You simply post interesting topics, and present your take on those of others. I take these anti-Scientology posts with the same grain of salt as I take the fundamentalist ravings that occasionally appear here and there. — Maris Follow your bliss! (Joseph Campbell)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Mike (Theta) you have a large fan club it seems — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." I thought I’d drop in a brief note to offer a bit of background into the swindles and frauds that Scientology engages in as a routine matter of their organized criminal enterprise. First off Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front is Scientology regardless of the fact that the cult endlessly tries to deny it. The crooks tried to sneak into Bowdon, Georgia under their fake name "Narconon" and when the people of the township found out they were really Scientology almost came close to being damn near tarred and feathered and run out of town: http://www.crackpots.org/ http://www.narconon-exposed.org/ Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front doesn’t work. The cult likes to claim it’s "the most effective drug treatment program in America" — or the world — however in actual fact best estimates on their effectiveness approaches 2% "non remission" which is _worse_ than the percenbtage of people quitting drug abuse without any treatment at all. (The cult refuses to publish verifiable data claiming its a matter of privacy when in fact it’s because they can’t back up their claims because they’re lying. Narcotics Anonymous doesn’t make such outrageous claims — no honest, real drug and alcohol treatment organization does.) So far as Scientology’s claims to have anything to do with mental health or rehabilitation, no, they do not. At core Scientology hides the fact that they are a flying saucer cult who believes that 76 billion years ago — before the Big Bang, in fact — a Galactic Ruler named Xenu has an over population problem which prompted him to collect the "surpluss" citizens of his Empire, free them, and transported them to Teegeeack — which is now called "Earth" — chained them to volcanoes and then blew them up with fusion bombs, collecting the fragments on magnetic ribbons and then transporting them to Mars for "implanting" of false ideas via showing them movies and other methods. So any claim to mental stability or efforts to help others with their own mental difficulties are obviously suspect from the onset. The cult’s ringleaders don’t inform their prospective followers that all of their problems — physical, mental, and emptional — are caused by the invisible infestation of these murdered space aliens, of course, until the follower has been in the cult for many years and has paid a great deal of money to the cult’s ringleaders. Then "Operation Thetan Level 3" is allowed to be read by the heavily brainwashed cultist wherein they eventually learn about Xenu, Body Thetans, flying saucers et al. http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot3.html http://www.xenu.net/ The criminal enterprise operates another fake front they call "Citizens Commission on Human Rights" or CCHR for short. What they don’t mention is that the "citizens" are actually Scientologists. They advocate insane notions that their mad messiah L. Ron Hubbard dreamed up while hopped up and drugged to the gills on "pinks" and "greys," as he called them: http://www.cosvm.info/pinks.htm http://www.cosvm.info/psycho.htm Probably the biggest mental health risk that this criminal enterprise represents to people with mental or emotional difficulties is their CCHR fake front which — because they’re Scientology — believe that the mental health industry is actually under the control of the Marcabian invasion fleet from outerspace. Since "psychs," as Scientology calls them, are part of the conspiracy to enslave humanity, drugs which are used to help people are touted as part of the conspiracy — only Scientology won’t make that claim using those words, of course, since to do so underscores the fact that not only is their CCHR actually Scientology, but that their own mental health is questionable: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/mpoulter/beliefs.html The criminal enterprise also wants unsuspecting victims to believe that they have a crime prevention or rehabilitation program called "Criminon" — only the cult doesn’t mention the fact that "Criminon" is another fake front / fictitious name for Scientology. The facts about this fake front can be found at: http://www.reprogram.net/ And when it comes to education, Scientology lies to claim that it some how helps kids learn. The cult has created endless fake fronts to hide their true identity behind when it comes time to try to swindle and rook unsuspectig "wogs," as they call us, into purchasing their mad messiah’s insane "education" claptrap. Among the most notorious is their "Applied Scholastics" fake front which is not-so-secret any more Scientology packaged up and resold under the banner of "education:" http://www.studytech.org/home.php Finally Scientology has hopped onto the "terrorism" and "ministry" bandwagon trying to rook as much money and public relations dollars out of victims of terrorism — and George Bush’s civil rights violations — as possible. Scientology lies to claim that it some how helped out in the afrtermath of the September 11′th terrorist attacks in New York when in fact they went to deliberately _assist_ the terrorists by deliberately attempting to disrupt the relief efforts there: http://www.cosvm.info/ Bottom line: When Scientology speaks, grab your wallet and run. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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So are you anti-Scientologists ex members hmmm. — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins

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Seems if these people are to be even handed they will need to — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take these anti-Scientology posts with the same grain of salt as I take the fundamentalist ravings that occasionally appear here and there. you might not if you followed up the links. ignore the humorlessness of the posts, they do have a point about the Church’s policies and values. Start _here_ with the cult’s despicable behavior after 9/11: http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/20010911-tragedy/ And then _here_ for how they treat their own members: http://www.lisamcpherson.org The Catholic Church have a lot to answer for too.. are catholics going to be pack attacked every time they post? whatever happened to freedom of worship?

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all organized religions lies to some extent. It is up to the members of each faith to make their own decisions about how much of it they wish to ignore or demand change regarding. It isn’t really anyone but a Scientologists business if they want to believe what they believe. Now if they (CoS) has murdered anyone as some have suggested; take them to court. Murder is illegal. — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take these anti-Scientology posts with the same grain of salt as I take the fundamentalist ravings that occasionally appear here and there. you might not if you followed up the links. ignore the humorlessness of the posts, they do have a point about the Church’s policies and values. Start _here_ with the cult’s despicable behavior after 9/11: http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/20010911-tragedy/ And then _here_ for how they treat their own members: http://www.lisamcpherson.org The Catholic Church have a lot to answer for too.. And they’re answering for it a lot these days. are catholics going to be pack attacked every time they post? whatever happened to freedom of worship? Yeah, $cientology _hates_ the Catholics. They got to have the Inquisition first. Nobody’s challenging $cientology’s freedom to worship–just their propensity to lie.

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"you turn into that which you hate, y’know" yep that is the biggest problem with hate

And L. Ron Hubbard died with psychiatric drugs in his system. Irony gets ‘em in the end. Literally.

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I take these anti-Scientology posts with the same grain of salt as I take the fundamentalist ravings that occasionally appear here and there.

you might not if you followed up the links. ignore the humorlessness of the posts, they do have a point about the Church’s policies and values. — Ria

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Start _here_ with the cult’s despicable behavior after 9/11: http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/20010911-tragedy/ And then _here_ for how they treat their own members: http://www.lisamcpherson.org

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The Catholic Church have a lot to answer for too.. are catholics going to be pack attacked every time they post? whatever happened to freedom of worship?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take these anti-Scientology posts with the same grain of salt as I take the fundamentalist ravings that occasionally appear here and there. you might not if you followed up the links. ignore the humorlessness of the posts, they do have a point about the Church’s policies and values. Start _here_ with the cult’s despicable behavior after 9/11: http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/20010911-tragedy/ And then _here_ for how they treat their own members: http://www.lisamcpherson.org The Catholic Church have a lot to answer for too..

And they’re answering for it a lot these days. are catholics going to be pack attacked every time they post? whatever happened to freedom of worship?

Yeah, $cientology _hates_ the Catholics. They got to have the Inquisition first. Nobody’s challenging $cientology’s freedom to worship–just their propensity to lie.

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perhaps his nym cause them to focus so on him..I am told "thetans " figure strongly in the scientolgists creed..? just a thought.

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Nola, anti-Scientologists at alt.religion.scientology are fanatical.

Why did Scientologists torture and kill Lisa McPherson? http://holysmoke.org/lm/lm.htm Why did Scientology Inc. kill over 40 of their customers, that we know of? http://whyaretheydead.org Why did Scientology Inc. attempt to frame Paulette Cooper for felonies, and then resort to attempted murder to "punish" her for exposing Scientology and Scientology Inc.’s crimes and human rights abuses? http://holysmoke.org/pc/pc.htm Why has the medical profession widely condemn Scientology’s front group narCONon as being both dangerous and ineffective? http://narconon-exposed.org Why does Scientology Inc. have a department that commits felonies suich as murder, attempted murder, burglary, extortion, espionage, witness tampering and intimidation, and other assorted acts of Mafia-like crimes? http://holysmoke.org/mm/mm.htm As anyone and everyone can see, human rights activists such as those on a.r.s. object to Scientology and Scientology Inc. for very good reason. We are working hard to protect Scientologists such as "Theta" from their criminal, abusive, dangerous, and homicidal masters.

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You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta."

somewhat anonymous Scientologist named Theta. in some newsgroups he uses his first name and in others his last as well. (‘cuse me for speaking of you in the third person.) I did get miffed at him for touting Psychbusters as an independent antipsychiatric group which and sent out a post about that. other than I hope you Skeptic Tank people have gotten less dogmatic yourself because when I wrote to your group requesting that you perhaps do some critical articles on (mainstream) psychiatry I got a super-rude response in return. you turn into that which you hate, y’know. — Ria

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"you turn into that which you hate, y’know" yep that is the biggest problem with hate — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." somewhat anonymous Scientologist named Theta. in some newsgroups he uses his first name and in others his last as well. (‘cuse me for speaking of you in the third person.) I did get miffed at him for touting Psychbusters as an independent antipsychiatric group which and sent out a post about that. other than I hope you Skeptic Tank people have gotten less dogmatic yourself because when I wrote to your group requesting that you perhaps do some critical articles on (mainstream) psychiatry I got a super-rude response in return. you turn into that which you hate, y’know. — Ria

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yep. ranting and ravers of any flavor pretty much all cut from the same cloth — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As far as I can tell, Mike, you’ve never recruited anyone, or even tried to recruit anyone here at All-Faiths. You simply post interesting topics, and present your take on those of others. I take these anti-Scientology posts with the same grain of salt as I take the fundamentalist ravings that occasionally appear here and there. — Maris Follow your bliss! (Joseph Campbell) Nola, anti-Scientologists at alt.religion.scientology are fanatical. They keep track of every Scientologist on the internet and have a database of all e-mail addresses. Every now and then an advert will be put up in a.r.s. (this appeared on a.r.s. on Sunday

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F6E662C.4020303%40lermanet.com&…) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – where such and such is posting to, a call-to-arms for others to drown the person out with off-topic, anti-Scientology propaganda. We’ve seen it in all-faiths since we moved from MSN to usenet. Anywhere else I post…well, they follow. I think of them as my "bitches". lol. They seem far more "cultic" than I’m "supposed" to be. <vbg Mike Hey Mike (Theta) you have a large fan club it seems — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." I thought I’d drop in a brief note to offer a bit of background into the swindles and frauds that Scientology engages in as a routine matter of their organized criminal enterprise. First off Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front is Scientology regardless of the fact that the cult endlessly tries to deny it. The crooks tried to sneak into Bowdon, Georgia under their fake name "Narconon" and when the people of the township found out they were really Scientology almost came close to being damn near tarred and feathered and run out of town: http://www.crackpots.org/ http://www.narconon-exposed.org/ Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front doesn’t work. The cult likes to claim it’s "the most effective drug treatment program in America" — or the world — however in actual fact best estimates on their effectiveness approaches 2% "non remission" which is _worse_ than the percenbtage of people quitting drug abuse without any treatment at all. (The cult refuses to publish verifiable data claiming its a matter of privacy when in fact it’s because they can’t back up their claims because they’re lying. Narcotics Anonymous doesn’t make such outrageous claims — no honest, real drug and alcohol treatment organization does.) So far as Scientology’s claims to have anything to do with mental health or rehabilitation, no, they do not. At core Scientology hides the fact that they are a flying saucer cult who believes that 76 billion years ago — before the Big Bang, in fact — a Galactic Ruler named Xenu has an over population problem which prompted him to collect the "surpluss" citizens of his Empire, free them, and transported them to Teegeeack — which is now called "Earth" — chained them to volcanoes and then blew them up with fusion bombs, collecting the fragments on magnetic ribbons and then transporting them to Mars for "implanting" of false ideas via showing them movies and other methods. So any claim to mental stability or efforts to help others with their own mental difficulties are obviously suspect from the onset. The cult’s ringleaders don’t inform their prospective followers that all of their problems — physical, mental, and emptional — are caused by the invisible infestation of these murdered space aliens, of course, until the follower has been in the cult for many years and has paid a great deal of money to the cult’s ringleaders. Then "Operation Thetan Level 3" is allowed to be read by the heavily brainwashed cultist wherein they eventually learn about Xenu, Body Thetans, flying saucers et al. http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot3.html http://www.xenu.net/ The criminal enterprise operates another fake front they call "Citizens Commission on Human Rights" or CCHR for short. What they don’t mention is that the "citizens" are actually Scientologists. They advocate insane notions that their mad messiah L. Ron Hubbard dreamed up while hopped up and drugged to the gills on "pinks" and "greys," as he called them: http://www.cosvm.info/pinks.htm http://www.cosvm.info/psycho.htm Probably the biggest mental health risk that this criminal enterprise represents to people with mental or emotional difficulties is their CCHR fake front which — because they’re Scientology — believe that the mental health industry is actually under the control of the Marcabian invasion fleet from outerspace. Since "psychs," as Scientology calls them, are part of the conspiracy to enslave humanity, drugs which are used to help people are touted as part of the conspiracy — only Scientology won’t make that claim using those words, of course, since to do so underscores the fact that not only is their CCHR actually Scientology, but that their own mental health is questionable: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/mpoulter/beliefs.html The criminal enterprise also wants unsuspecting victims to believe that they have a crime prevention or rehabilitation program called "Criminon" — only the cult doesn’t mention the fact that "Criminon" is another fake front / fictitious name for Scientology. The facts about this fake front can be found at: http://www.reprogram.net/ And when it comes to education, Scientology lies to claim that it some how helps kids learn. The cult has created endless fake fronts to hide their true identity behind when it comes time to try to swindle and rook unsuspectig "wogs," as they call us, into purchasing their mad messiah’s insane "education" claptrap. Among the most notorious is their "Applied Scholastics" fake front which is not-so-secret any more Scientology packaged up and resold under the banner of "education:" http://www.studytech.org/home.php Finally Scientology has hopped onto the "terrorism" and "ministry" bandwagon trying to rook as much money and public relations dollars out of victims of terrorism — and George Bush’s civil rights violations — as possible. Scientology lies to claim that it some how helped out in the afrtermath of the September 11′th terrorist attacks in New York when in fact they went to deliberately _assist_ the terrorists by deliberately attempting to disrupt the relief efforts there: http://www.cosvm.info/ Bottom line: When Scientology speaks, grab your wallet and run. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." I thought I’d drop in a brief note to offer a bit of background into the swindles and frauds that Scientology engages in as a routine matter of their organized criminal enterprise. First off Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front is Scientology regardless of the fact that the cult endlessly tries to deny it. The crooks tried to sneak into Bowdon, Georgia under their fake name "Narconon" and when the people of the township found out they were really Scientology almost came close to being damn near tarred and feathered and run out of town: http://www.crackpots.org/ http://www.narconon-exposed.org/ Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front doesn’t work. The cult likes to claim it’s "the most effective drug treatment program in America" — or the world — however in actual fact best estimates on their effectiveness approaches 2% "non remission" which is _worse_ than the percenbtage of people quitting drug abuse without any treatment at all. (The cult refuses to publish verifiable data claiming its a matter of privacy when in fact it’s because they can’t back up their claims because they’re lying. Narcotics Anonymous doesn’t make such outrageous claims — no honest, real drug and alcohol treatment organization does.) So far as Scientology’s claims to have anything to do with mental health or rehabilitation, no, they do not. At core Scientology hides the fact that they are a flying saucer cult who believes that 76 billion years ago — before the Big Bang, in fact — a Galactic Ruler named Xenu has an over population problem which prompted him to collect the "surpluss" citizens of his Empire, free them, and transported them to Teegeeack — which is now called "Earth" — chained them to volcanoes and then blew them up with fusion bombs, collecting the fragments on magnetic ribbons and then transporting them to Mars for "implanting" of false ideas via showing them movies and other methods. So any claim to mental stability or efforts to help others with their own mental difficulties are obviously suspect from the onset. The cult’s ringleaders don’t inform their prospective followers that all of their problems — physical, mental, and emptional — are caused by the invisible infestation of these murdered space aliens, of course, until the follower has been in the cult for many years and has paid a great deal of money to the cult’s ringleaders. Then "Operation Thetan Level 3" is allowed to be read by the heavily brainwashed cultist wherein they eventually learn about Xenu, Body Thetans, flying saucers et al. http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot3.html http://www.xenu.net/ The criminal enterprise operates another fake front they call "Citizens Commission on Human Rights" or CCHR for short. What they don’t mention is that the "citizens" are actually Scientologists. They advocate insane notions that their mad messiah L. Ron Hubbard dreamed up while hopped up and drugged to the gills on "pinks" and "greys," as he called them: http://www.cosvm.info/pinks.htm http://www.cosvm.info/psycho.htm Probably the biggest mental health risk that this criminal enterprise represents to people with mental or emotional difficulties is their CCHR fake front which — because they’re Scientology — believe that the mental health industry is actually under the control of the Marcabian invasion fleet from outerspace. Since "psychs," as Scientology calls them, are part of the conspiracy to enslave humanity, drugs which are used to help people are touted as part of the conspiracy — only Scientology won’t make that claim using those words, of course, since to do so underscores the fact that not only is their CCHR actually Scientology, but that their own mental health is questionable: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/mpoulter/beliefs.html The criminal enterprise also wants unsuspecting victims to believe that they have a crime prevention or rehabilitation program called "Criminon" — only the cult doesn’t mention the fact that "Criminon" is another fake front / fictitious name for Scientology. The facts about this fake front can be found at: http://www.reprogram.net/ And when it comes to education, Scientology lies to claim that it some how helps kids learn. The cult has created endless fake fronts to hide their true identity behind when it comes time to try to swindle and rook unsuspectig "wogs," as they call us, into purchasing their mad messiah’s insane "education" claptrap. Among the most notorious is their "Applied Scholastics" fake front which is not-so-secret any more Scientology packaged up and resold under the banner of "education:" http://www.studytech.org/home.php Finally Scientology has hopped onto the "terrorism" and "ministry" bandwagon trying to rook as much money and public relations dollars out of victims of terrorism — and George Bush’s civil rights violations — as possible. Scientology lies to claim that it some how helped out in the afrtermath of the September 11′th terrorist attacks in New York when in fact they went to deliberately _assist_ the terrorists by deliberately attempting to disrupt the relief efforts there: http://www.cosvm.info/ Bottom line: When Scientology speaks, grab your wallet and run. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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LOL bitches? must mean something somewhat different in the UK than in the US — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F6E662C.4020303%40lermanet.com&…) where such and such is posting to, a call-to-arms for others to drown the person out with off-topic, anti-Scientology propaganda. We’ve seen it in all-faiths since we moved from MSN to usenet. Anywhere else I post…well, they follow. I think of them as my "bitches". lol. They seem far more "cultic" than I’m "supposed" to be. <vbg Mike

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Nola, anti-Scientologists at alt.religion.scientology are fanatical. They keep track of every Scientologist on the internet and have a database of all e-mail addresses. Every now and then an advert will be put up in a.r.s. (this appeared on a.r.s. on Sunday http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F6E662C.4020303%40lermanet.com&…) where such and such is posting to, a call-to-arms for others to drown the person out with off-topic, anti-Scientology propaganda. We’ve seen it in all-faiths since we moved from MSN to usenet. Anywhere else I post…well, they follow. I think of them as my "bitches". lol. They seem far more "cultic" than I’m "supposed" to be. <vbg Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Mike (Theta) you have a large fan club it seems — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." I thought I’d drop in a brief note to offer a bit of background into the swindles and frauds that Scientology engages in as a routine matter of their organized criminal enterprise. First off Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front is Scientology regardless of the fact that the cult endlessly tries to deny it. The crooks tried to sneak into Bowdon, Georgia under their fake name "Narconon" and when the people of the township found out they were really Scientology almost came close to being damn near tarred and feathered and run out of town: http://www.crackpots.org/ http://www.narconon-exposed.org/ Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front doesn’t work. The cult likes to claim it’s "the most effective drug treatment program in America" — or the world — however in actual fact best estimates on their effectiveness approaches 2% "non remission" which is _worse_ than the percenbtage of people quitting drug abuse without any treatment at all. (The cult refuses to publish verifiable data claiming its a matter of privacy when in fact it’s because they can’t back up their claims because they’re lying. Narcotics Anonymous doesn’t make such outrageous claims — no honest, real drug and alcohol treatment organization does.) So far as Scientology’s claims to have anything to do with mental health or rehabilitation, no, they do not. At core Scientology hides the fact that they are a flying saucer cult who believes that 76 billion years ago — before the Big Bang, in fact — a Galactic Ruler named Xenu has an over population problem which prompted him to collect the "surpluss" citizens of his Empire, free them, and transported them to Teegeeack — which is now called "Earth" — chained them to volcanoes and then blew them up with fusion bombs, collecting the fragments on magnetic ribbons and then transporting them to Mars for "implanting" of false ideas via showing them movies and other methods. So any claim to mental stability or efforts to help others with their own mental difficulties are obviously suspect from the onset. The cult’s ringleaders don’t inform their prospective followers that all of their problems — physical, mental, and emptional — are caused by the invisible infestation of these murdered space aliens, of course, until the follower has been in the cult for many years and has paid a great deal of money to the cult’s ringleaders. Then "Operation Thetan Level 3" is allowed to be read by the heavily brainwashed cultist wherein they eventually learn about Xenu, Body Thetans, flying saucers et al. http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot3.html http://www.xenu.net/ The criminal enterprise operates another fake front they call "Citizens Commission on Human Rights" or CCHR for short. What they don’t mention is that the "citizens" are actually Scientologists. They advocate insane notions that their mad messiah L. Ron Hubbard dreamed up while hopped up and drugged to the gills on "pinks" and "greys," as he called them: http://www.cosvm.info/pinks.htm http://www.cosvm.info/psycho.htm Probably the biggest mental health risk that this criminal enterprise represents to people with mental or emotional difficulties is their CCHR fake front which — because they’re Scientology — believe that the mental health industry is actually under the control of the Marcabian invasion fleet from outerspace. Since "psychs," as Scientology calls them, are part of the conspiracy to enslave humanity, drugs which are used to help people are touted as part of the conspiracy — only Scientology won’t make that claim using those words, of course, since to do so underscores the fact that not only is their CCHR actually Scientology, but that their own mental health is questionable: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/mpoulter/beliefs.html The criminal enterprise also wants unsuspecting victims to believe that they have a crime prevention or rehabilitation program called "Criminon" — only the cult doesn’t mention the fact that "Criminon" is another fake front / fictitious name for Scientology. The facts about this fake front can be found at: http://www.reprogram.net/ And when it comes to education, Scientology lies to claim that it some how helps kids learn. The cult has created endless fake fronts to hide their true identity behind when it comes time to try to swindle and rook unsuspectig "wogs," as they call us, into purchasing their mad messiah’s insane "education" claptrap. Among the most notorious is their "Applied Scholastics" fake front which is not-so-secret any more Scientology packaged up and resold under the banner of "education:" http://www.studytech.org/home.php Finally Scientology has hopped onto the "terrorism" and "ministry" bandwagon trying to rook as much money and public relations dollars out of victims of terrorism — and George Bush’s civil rights violations — as possible. Scientology lies to claim that it some how helped out in the afrtermath of the September 11′th terrorist attacks in New York when in fact they went to deliberately _assist_ the terrorists by deliberately attempting to disrupt the relief efforts there: http://www.cosvm.info/ Bottom line: When Scientology speaks, grab your wallet and run. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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Hey Mike (Theta) you have a large fan club it seems — The growth of the human mind is still high adventure, in many ways the highest adventure on earth. Norman Cousins – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You might have read a posting by some anonymous Scientologist who goes by the name "Theta." I thought I’d drop in a brief note to offer a bit of background into the swindles and frauds that Scientology engages in as a routine matter of their organized criminal enterprise. First off Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front is Scientology regardless of the fact that the cult endlessly tries to deny it. The crooks tried to sneak into Bowdon, Georgia under their fake name "Narconon" and when the people of the township found out they were really Scientology almost came close to being damn near tarred and feathered and run out of town: http://www.crackpots.org/ http://www.narconon-exposed.org/ Scientology’s "Narconon" fake front doesn’t work. The cult likes to claim it’s "the most effective drug treatment program in America" — or the world — however in actual fact best estimates on their effectiveness approaches 2% "non remission" which is _worse_ than the percenbtage of people quitting drug abuse without any treatment at all. (The cult refuses to publish verifiable data claiming its a matter of privacy when in fact it’s because they can’t back up their claims because they’re lying. Narcotics Anonymous doesn’t make such outrageous claims — no honest, real drug and alcohol treatment organization does.) So far as Scientology’s claims to have anything to do with mental health or rehabilitation, no, they do not. At core Scientology hides the fact that they are a flying saucer cult who believes that 76 billion years ago — before the Big Bang, in fact — a Galactic Ruler named Xenu has an over population problem which prompted him to collect the "surpluss" citizens of his Empire, free them, and transported them to Teegeeack — which is now called "Earth" — chained them to volcanoes and then blew them up with fusion bombs, collecting the fragments on magnetic ribbons and then transporting them to Mars for "implanting" of false ideas via showing them movies and other methods. So any claim to mental stability or efforts to help others with their own mental difficulties are obviously suspect from the onset. The cult’s ringleaders don’t inform their prospective followers that all of their problems — physical, mental, and emptional — are caused by the invisible infestation of these murdered space aliens, of course, until the follower has been in the cult for many years and has paid a great deal of money to the cult’s ringleaders. Then "Operation Thetan Level 3" is allowed to be read by the heavily brainwashed cultist wherein they eventually learn about Xenu, Body Thetans, flying saucers et al. http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html http://www.spaink.net/fishman/ot3.html http://www.xenu.net/ The criminal enterprise operates another fake front they call "Citizens Commission on Human Rights" or CCHR for short. What they don’t mention is that the "citizens" are actually Scientologists. They advocate insane notions that their mad messiah L. Ron Hubbard dreamed up while hopped up and drugged to the gills on "pinks" and "greys," as he called them: http://www.cosvm.info/pinks.htm http://www.cosvm.info/psycho.htm Probably the biggest mental health risk that this criminal enterprise represents to people with mental or emotional difficulties is their CCHR fake front which — because they’re Scientology — believe that the mental health industry is actually under the control of the Marcabian invasion fleet from outerspace. Since "psychs," as Scientology calls them, are part of the conspiracy to enslave humanity, drugs which are used to help people are touted as part of the conspiracy — only Scientology won’t make that claim using those words, of course, since to do so underscores the fact that not only is their CCHR actually Scientology, but that their own mental health is questionable: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/mpoulter/beliefs.html The criminal enterprise also wants unsuspecting victims to believe that they have a crime prevention or rehabilitation program called "Criminon" — only the cult doesn’t mention the fact that "Criminon" is another fake front / fictitious name for Scientology. The facts about this fake front can be found at: http://www.reprogram.net/ And when it comes to education, Scientology lies to claim that it some how helps kids learn. The cult has created endless fake fronts to hide their true identity behind when it comes time to try to swindle and rook unsuspectig "wogs," as they call us, into purchasing their mad messiah’s insane "education" claptrap. Among the most notorious is their "Applied Scholastics" fake front which is not-so-secret any more Scientology packaged up and resold under the banner of "education:" http://www.studytech.org/home.php Finally Scientology has hopped onto the "terrorism" and "ministry" bandwagon trying to rook as much money and public relations dollars out of victims of terrorism — and George Bush’s civil rights violations — as possible. Scientology lies to claim that it some how helped out in the afrtermath of the September 11′th terrorist attacks in New York when in fact they went to deliberately _assist_ the terrorists by deliberately attempting to disrupt the relief efforts there: http://www.cosvm.info/ Bottom line: When Scientology speaks, grab your wallet and run. — "I spewed bodily fluids." – Shydavid http://www.skeptictank.org/ http://www.RonTheNut.ORG/ PGP: http://www.skeptictank.org/frice.pgp — You love drugs! You love drugs, don’t you?! You better not say anything about my mother! Don’t you DARE say anything about my mother! — Scientology’s International President (Audio files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice

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