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POLL: Are You For Or Against The Invasion Of Iraq?

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trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote in message <news:20030324065518.05781.00000326@mb-fe.aol.com>… > >I’m against it. I already had some posts on the subject but basicly i think > >it’s unjustified and illegal. > Of course. No compelling reason at all. The Bush "administration" (I still > cringe at the acknowledgement)

You are one of the most ignorant people I’ve come across.  You just spit out the old liberal cliches: everything Bush does is evil and everything a Democrat does is good.  Bush was elected fairly.  If the Supreme Court has choosen in favor of Gore, how would that have made it a fair election.  You liberals are all the same.  created the Iraq "crisis" out of thin air, using > 9/11 as the flimsiest of excuses. And of course all the good old flag-waving, > church-bazaar-going

Do you have a problem with people who go to church?  Are you against religion?  I bet if someone critisized Muslims, you would calling them racist rednecks or something like most liberals do. , Navigator-driving Americans swallowed it, hook, line and > sinker,

No, you’re an idiot liberal who swallows liberal crap hook, line and sinker.  because for some reason which I cannot understand for the life of me, > Idiot Boy’s words are treated as gospel. No one sees (or wants to see) the > smokescreen/bullshit going on here. No one except, well, the rest of the world.

70% of Americans support the war > But no, let’s act all stupid, dumb French wine and cheese, rename French fries > as "freedom fries," and generally act like a bunch of knee-jerk 5 year olds.

The French are ingrates.  They want other countries to sacrifice their people to save France, but will not do one thing to help anyone else. > I still maintain that there have been only 2 wars in the history of America > where actual "freedom" has been fought for. > #1 – the American Revolution > #2 – WW2 (for Europe’s freedom)

We fought for people’s freedoms in Korea, Vietnam (even though we lost), and WWI.. or did you just forget those? > People will disagree, call me an asshole, unpatriotic, all of that, well, I > don’t give a shit.

You’re a hypocrit asshole.  You don’t mind having your freedom to say what you want, but don’t want to help anyone else get that freedom. I still believe that most of the time we should not be > fighting wars in the first place, and certainly not in this case.

Of course, because war doesn’t solve anything, it didn’t solve Hilter, Korea, Afghanistan, Serbia, WWI, Japan, etc.  But > no……shit, the pockets of Raytheon, Lockheed, and ExxonMobil haven’t been > lined in a while, better keep all of those assholes happy, so let’s jack up the > price of oil, invade a country with a lot of it, and let those $1,000,000 > missiles fly. Let’s spend billions of dollars on missiles, bombs, and > helicopters but not do one fucking thing, or promote one little initiative to > improve the quality of life in our own damned country.

We don’t do anything to improve the quality of life in our own country?  Right.  You are a paranoid, liberal freak.  You should be ashamed to be an American.  You have so much freedom.  You wouldn’t even be *allowed* to express your opinion in Iraq.  You think Bush is a dictator but Saddam isn’t?

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for I think we should kill all the bloody arabs. I think Bush is a good guy and Saddam is Bad. "Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

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Neon said >But I hope you and others against the war support our troops regardless,they >are after all following orders.Hopefully this will be a quick war with >minimal losses on both sides.

The peace colition at my school are taking up donations and care packages for the troops. Here is an article which inspired the action: http://www.11alive.com/whatson/seenontv/seenontv_article.asp?storyid=… — Hana no Kaitou http://animeg.blogspot.com/ <–yet another shitty blog. http://members.fortunecity.com/animeg3282/ <—Fancy Lala Club! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fancy_lala  <mailing list for Lala fans

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PC <problemch…@mail.com> wrote in message

news:11cdc7cd.0303241314.63c51f58@posting.google.com… > trance…@aol.com (Trance909) wrote in message

<news:20030324065518.05781.00000326@mb-fe.aol.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > >I’m against it. I already had some posts on the subject but basicly i think > > >it’s unjustified and illegal. > > Of course. No compelling reason at all. The Bush "administration" (I still > > cringe at the acknowledgement) > You are one of the most ignorant people I’ve come across.  You just > spit out the old liberal cliches: everything Bush does is evil and > everything a Democrat does is good.  Bush was elected fairly.  If the > Supreme Court has choosen in favor of Gore, how would that have made > it a fair election.  You liberals are all the same. >  created the Iraq "crisis" out of thin air, using > > 9/11 as the flimsiest of excuses. And of course all the good old flag-waving, > > church-bazaar-going > Do you have a problem with people who go to church?  Are you against > religion?  I bet if someone critisized Muslims, you would calling them > racist rednecks or something like most liberals do. > , Navigator-driving Americans swallowed it, hook, line and > > sinker, > No, you’re an idiot liberal who swallows liberal crap hook, line and > sinker. >  because for some reason which I cannot understand for the life of me, > > Idiot Boy’s words are treated as gospel. No one sees (or wants to see) the > > smokescreen/bullshit going on here. No one except, well, the rest of the world. > 70% of Americans support the war > > But no, let’s act all stupid, dumb French wine and cheese, rename French fries > > as "freedom fries," and generally act like a bunch of knee-jerk 5 year olds. > The French are ingrates.  They want other countries to sacrifice their > people to save France, but will not do one thing to help anyone else. > > I still maintain that there have been only 2 wars in the history of America > > where actual "freedom" has been fought for. > > #1 – the American Revolution > > #2 – WW2 (for Europe’s freedom) > We

Try to refrain from using the word ‘We’ when you talk about the american soldiers that fought during ww2. You weren’t there, and you fought crap. I hate that crap (taking pride in others people action/acomplishment) Like those people being proud because their country won the football (soccer if you prefer) cup or something. I see these ordinary, sub ordinary quality-wise people being all excited and proud because "their country" won…But what did THEY do? Nothing.Were THEY on the field? No. Could THEY have been part of the team? No. Would THEY have cause "their team" to lose had they been on the field? Yes.  Did THEY had the genetic potential to become a top soccer player?In most cases,absolutely not. Are they genetically related to the player on the field (son,brother or even cousin) lol! no! It’s normal to take pride in something your son or brother or even your grandpa did. But when that person/persons are only related to you in term of nationality,that’s stupid. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> fought for people’s freedoms in Korea, Vietnam (even though we > lost), and WWI.. or did you just forget those? > > People will disagree, call me an asshole, unpatriotic, all of that, well, I > > don’t give a shit. > You’re a hypocrit asshole.  You don’t mind having your freedom to say > what you want, but don’t want to help anyone else get that freedom. > I still believe that most of the time we should not be > > fighting wars in the first place, and certainly not in this case. > Of course, because war doesn’t solve anything, it didn’t solve Hilter, > Korea, Afghanistan, Serbia, WWI, Japan, etc. >  But > > no……shit, the pockets of Raytheon, Lockheed, and ExxonMobil haven’t been > > lined in a while, better keep all of those assholes happy, so let’s jack up the > > price of oil, invade a country with a lot of it, and let those $1,000,000 > > missiles fly. Let’s spend billions of dollars on missiles, bombs, and > > helicopters but not do one fucking thing, or promote one little initiative to > > improve the quality of life in our own damned country. > We don’t do anything to improve the quality of life in our own > country?  Right.  You are a paranoid, liberal freak.  You should be > ashamed to be an American.  You have so much freedom.  You wouldn’t > even be *allowed* to express your opinion in Iraq.  You think Bush is > a dictator but Saddam isn’t?

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I’m on the fence about most issues.  I feel like I’m not sophisticated enough to grasp social and political issues.  But I my feeling is that the U.S. probably should not have gone to war with Iraq. I question whether America should risk it’s soldiers and spend it’s money for this war.  I don’t know if Saddam poses such an immediate threat to the U.S. that he must be taken out right now.  There are many other dangerous places in the world also.  I know Saddam will probably become more dangerous if we wait but I don’t know if a preemptive war is the right thing to do. On the other hand, now that the war has begun, I just hope it turns out for the best.  Hopefully the war won’t be too bloody.  Iraqi citizens will be killed but there may not be any other way to get Saddam out.  Maybe Iraq won’t have a civil war after Saddam and the Middle East will be safer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -William P <d…@email.me> wrote in message <news:Xns9348701C8604Bwilliamp@207.35.177.134>… > Gman <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@ > 4ax.com: > >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > > Iraq or against it?  And why? > I am completely ignorant about this.  I mean more ignorant than even > about other things I post about which is saying a lot. > 1.  The idea that this has anything to do with "the freedom of the Iraqi > people" is obviously utter bullshit. > 2.  Same thing with all the "weapons of mass destruction" stuff.  I mean, > every country has bombs, and there are tons of other countries to target.   > The whole idea of preemptively disarming a country is weird. > 3.  The idea that this has anything to do with failure to comply with > weapons inspections also is fishy, since it was really obvious that the > US wanted a war…  And kept making standards of "compliance" more and > more extreme until basically saying "fuck you, we’re bombing the shit out > of this." > 4.  It was pretty dumb politics to say they supported terrorists > attacking the US after Sep 11.  This, I guess, is ultimately what this is > all about. > 5.  I don’t think anyone’s even pretending that the fact that Iraq > controls a significant amount of the world’s oil supply isn’t another > main factor, and I doubt the US would even bother to care if they didn’t > hold power like that. > 6.  The US military is *always* looking for excuses to justify the > extreme amount of money that gets spent on military hardware, and for the > public excitement that this sort of thing generates.

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"Trance909" <trance…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030324065518.05781.00000326@mb-fe.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >I’m against it. I already had some posts on the subject but basicly i think > >it’s unjustified and illegal. > Of course. No compelling reason at all. The Bush "administration" (I still > cringe at the acknowledgement) created the Iraq "crisis" out of thin air, using > 9/11 as the flimsiest of excuses. And of course all the good old flag-waving, > church-bazaar-going, Navigator-driving Americans swallowed it, hook, line and > sinker, because for some reason which I cannot understand for the life of me, > Idiot Boy’s words are treated as gospel. No one sees (or wants to see) the > smokescreen/bullshit going on here. No one except, well, the rest of the world. > But no, let’s act all stupid, dumb French wine and cheese, rename French fries > as "freedom fries," and generally act like a bunch of knee-jerk 5 year olds. > I still maintain that there have been only 2 wars in the history of America > where actual "freedom" has been fought for. > #1 – the American Revolution > #2 – WW2 (for Europe’s freedom) > People will disagree, call me an asshole, unpatriotic, all of that, well, I > don’t give a shit. I still believe that most of the time we should not be > fighting wars in the first place, and certainly not in this case. But > no……shit, the pockets of Raytheon, Lockheed, and ExxonMobil haven’t been > lined in a while, better keep all of those assholes happy, so let’s jack up the > price of oil, invade a country with a lot of it, and let those $1,000,000 > missiles fly. Let’s spend billions of dollars on missiles, bombs, and > helicopters but not do one fucking thing, or promote one little initiative to > improve the quality of life in our own damned country.

While I don’t agree with your views on the war, you are entitled to voice your own opinion.Its just one of our freedoms/rights to speak out against our government and the right to peaceful protests.Some here are flaming you for your opinions on the war.I will not flame you,its your right. But I hope you and others against the war support our troops regardless,they are after all following orders.Hopefully this will be a quick war with minimal losses on both sides. Neon

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"Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

For and Against.

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"PC" <problemch…@mail.com> wrote in message

news:11cdc7cd.0303241314.63c51f58@posting.google.com… [...] > We fought for people’s freedoms in Korea, Vietnam (even though we > lost), and WWI.. or did you just forget those?

WWI was about alliances and territory, not freedom. The French won that war, btw, or at least their part of it, regaining the provinces of Alsace and Lorraine, which they had lost in the Franco-Prussian War, about 45 years earlier. Korea was about maintaining territory gained after WWII, especially keeping it from the Soviet Union. Eisenhower’s main reason for getting into Vietnam was US security.

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"Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why?

I’m of two minds on the subject.  I’d say I’m… …for it because, as with all international conflicts, I’m hoping it starts a chain of events which leads to a global, or at least local, nuclear holocaust. …against it because I don’t believe Saddam’s a real or imminent threat to the U.S.(well, he wasn’t before we put people over there in front of his guns, I mean); because it’ll damage U.S. credibility further and increase the risk of terrorism, which will increase security regulations and allow the government to capitalize on the widespread paranoia to further erode civil liberties; because I don’t believe it’s our job to "liberate" the Iraqi people; because this thing costs a fortune and I worry about how fucked up the economy’s going to be by the time I’m financially independent; because I distrust the administration’s motives in starting this war; because as an American, I don’t like my image being tainted by the actions of people I didn’t elect.

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Very for. "Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

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"Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

I’m against it. I already had some posts on the subject but basicly i think it’s unjustified and illegal.

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Gman <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message <news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com>… > I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

I’m an American and I have mixed feelings about it.  The only rational for it that convinces me at all is that when you go to war and your defeated opponant signs a surrender treaty, you best make sure that he abides by it or your country will appear weak, causing even more wars in the long run.  I don’t buy the line of reasoning that says that the inspectors should have been given more time…they would not have been there at all had it not been for the threat of the war that we’re now waging.  So in that regard, I’m for the war. Still…I would have been willing to give my life in fighting Afghanistan.  I was/am prepared to sign for military service if the war started going bad and we needed replacement soldiers.  I don’t feel that way about Iraq.  It feels rather hypocritical of me to say I support a war that I myself am not willing to die in. Another angle…I wonder what the fall out of the war on terrorism (I’m including Iraq in this for the sake of argument) is going to end up being for us over the next 50 years.  Losing the U.N. is no big deal, but pissing off as many differant countries as we have could turn out badly for us.  For example, no matter what happens in Iraq, China will come out of this smelling like flowers.  I think we’re going to see a gradual rise in China’s prestige in the decades to come, and if we’re not real careful we’re not going to be in a position of this much power for long. Marlow

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"Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

I’m against it.  I think the weapons inspectors shouls have been given much more time.

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"Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why?

I’m against it. The Bush Administration has told so many lies, prevarications, and equivocations, it’s hard to keep up with what they claim the real reasons are for invading. Just for example, the legal reason given is to enforce UN Resolution 1441. But if that’s the case, shouldn’t the war be called Operation Disarm Iraq, instead of Operation Iraqi Freedom? I don’t see anything in the UN Charter about invading countries to "liberate" the people from tyrants. So, now we’re supposed to believe that we’re going to spend $100 billion, and at least several dozen US lives, just out of the goodness of our hearts, to free the Iraqi people. But what about all the other people in the world who need freeing? Sorry, our magnanimity is for Iraqis only. What makes Iraqis so special? Hmmm…let me think… A: Oh, well, it’s not just that – the Iraqi government was planning to launch terrorist attacks against the US, so it’s really a war of self-defense. B: Ah, I see, and now we are much less likely to have someone launch terrorist attacks against us. Yes, all this stirring up of the Arab nations, like a little boy stirring up an ant’s nest, that won’t result in increased hatred of the US. A: No, of course, not. Everyone knows they hate us anyway. They’ll hate us no matter what, because they hate our freedom. So it’s okay to attack one or more Arab countries to try to secure our country, because it’s all the same to them. B: Yeah…that makes…sense…yeah… I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. We have fallen into a trap set for us by Osama bin Laden. Or, it could all turn out for the better. We could rebuild Iraq, turn it into a prosperous and forward looking country, the envy of the Arab World. Moderate muslims and materialist Arabs could find a haven in Iraq, and seek the same for their own countries. The tide of power could turn away from the fundamentalists, rendering their calls to arms irrelevant in a new, consumerist culture. It could happen…honest!

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>I’m against it. I already had some posts on the subject but basicly i think >it’s unjustified and illegal.

Of course. No compelling reason at all. The Bush "administration" (I still cringe at the acknowledgement) created the Iraq "crisis" out of thin air, using 9/11 as the flimsiest of excuses. And of course all the good old flag-waving, church-bazaar-going, Navigator-driving Americans swallowed it, hook, line and sinker, because for some reason which I cannot understand for the life of me, Idiot Boy’s words are treated as gospel. No one sees (or wants to see) the smokescreen/bullshit going on here. No one except, well, the rest of the world. But no, let’s act all stupid, dumb French wine and cheese, rename French fries as "freedom fries," and generally act like a bunch of knee-jerk 5 year olds. I still maintain that there have been only 2 wars in the history of America where actual "freedom" has been fought for. #1 – the American Revolution #2 – WW2 (for Europe’s freedom) People will disagree, call me an asshole, unpatriotic, all of that, well, I don’t give a shit. I still believe that most of the time we should not be fighting wars in the first place, and certainly not in this case. But no……shit, the pockets of Raytheon, Lockheed, and ExxonMobil haven’t been lined in a while, better keep all of those assholes happy, so let’s jack up the price of oil, invade a country with a lot of it, and let those $1,000,000 missiles fly. Let’s spend billions of dollars on missiles, bombs, and helicopters but not do one fucking thing, or promote one little initiative to improve the quality of life in our own damned country.

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"Trance909" <trance…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030324065518.05781.00000326@mb-fe.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >I’m against it. I already had some posts on the subject but basicly i think > >it’s unjustified and illegal. > Of course. No compelling reason at all. The Bush "administration" (I still > cringe at the acknowledgement) created the Iraq "crisis" out of thin air, using > 9/11 as the flimsiest of excuses. And of course all the good old flag-waving, > church-bazaar-going, Navigator-driving Americans swallowed it, hook, line and > sinker, because for some reason which I cannot understand for the life of me, > Idiot Boy’s words are treated as gospel. No one sees (or wants to see) the > smokescreen/bullshit going on here. No one except, well, the rest of the world. > But no, let’s act all stupid, dumb French wine and cheese, rename French fries > as "freedom fries," and generally act like a bunch of knee-jerk 5 year olds. > I still maintain that there have been only 2 wars in the history of America > where actual "freedom" has been fought for. > #1 – the American Revolution > #2 – WW2 (for Europe’s freedom) > People will disagree, call me an asshole, unpatriotic, all of that, well, I > don’t give a shit. I still believe that most of the time we should not be > fighting wars in the first place, and certainly not in this case. But > no……shit, the pockets of Raytheon, Lockheed, and ExxonMobil haven’t been > lined in a while, better keep all of those assholes happy, so let’s jack up the > price of oil, invade a country with a lot of it, and let those $1,000,000 > missiles fly. Let’s spend billions of dollars on missiles, bombs, and > helicopters but not do one fucking thing, or promote one little initiative to > improve the quality of life in our own damned country.

Yep.  Very well put. — http://54l4ci0u5.blogspot.com/ "Fuck oil, save the cheese." – Trance909

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totally against it , killing people who have done nothing wrong.  seeing all the news clips of little kids and even adults injured is so distressing.

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Gman <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com: >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

Against. Because shortly after the 1st. Gulf War (in 1992) the Embassy of Israel in my country was blown up. Many people who had nothing to do with Middle East affairs died a horrible death. I don’t want this happening again. — "Whining" behaviour doesn’t work – or it provides a sort of unhealthy, secondary support which is rooted in pity rather than sincerity. –Marc Meunier

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Gman <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@ 4ax.com: >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why?

I am completely ignorant about this.  I mean more ignorant than even about other things I post about which is saying a lot. 1.  The idea that this has anything to do with "the freedom of the Iraqi people" is obviously utter bullshit. 2.  Same thing with all the "weapons of mass destruction" stuff.  I mean, every country has bombs, and there are tons of other countries to target.   The whole idea of preemptively disarming a country is weird. 3.  The idea that this has anything to do with failure to comply with weapons inspections also is fishy, since it was really obvious that the US wanted a war…  And kept making standards of "compliance" more and more extreme until basically saying "fuck you, we’re bombing the shit out of this." 4.  It was pretty dumb politics to say they supported terrorists attacking the US after Sep 11.  This, I guess, is ultimately what this is all about. 5.  I don’t think anyone’s even pretending that the fact that Iraq controls a significant amount of the world’s oil supply isn’t another main factor, and I doubt the US would even bother to care if they didn’t hold power like that. 6.  The US military is *always* looking for excuses to justify the extreme amount of money that gets spent on military hardware, and for the public excitement that this sort of thing generates.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Beowulf Trollsbane wrote: > Gman <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com: > >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > > Iraq or against it?  And why? > > Gman > Against. Because shortly after the 1st. Gulf War (in 1992) the Embassy of > Israel in my country was blown up. Many people who had nothing to do with > Middle East affairs died a horrible death. I don’t want this happening > again.

A friend of a friend I knew died in that blast. I fear that many more people will die as a repercussion to this war. It’s very sad.

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poppytar <poppy…@yahoo.com> wrote in news:nRIfa.17801$jA2.1591246@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Beowulf Trollsbane wrote: >> Gman <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in >> news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com: >> >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of >> > Iraq or against it?  And why? >> > Gman >> Against. Because shortly after the 1st. Gulf War (in 1992) the >> Embassy of Israel in my country was blown up. Many people who had >> nothing to do with Middle East affairs died a horrible death. I don’t >> want this happening again. > A friend of a friend I knew died in that blast. I fear that many more > people will die as a repercussion to this war. It’s very sad.

Indeed it is. I’m sorry None of my friends/relatives died that day but it was one of the saddest of my life just the same. — "Whining" behaviour doesn’t work – or it provides a sort of unhealthy, secondary support which is rooted in pity rather than sincerity. –Marc Meunier

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    I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of Iraq or against it?  And why? Gman

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"Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

I would have to say I am for getting rid of Saddam Hussein and his Regime.I believe its a case of dammed if we do, dammed if we don’t.He has used WMD before against his own people and in the war between Iraq and Iran in the early 80’s.I believe he is hiding them now and would use them at some point in the future against us or other people.Or sell WMD to the highest bidder namely terrorists,if we didn’t do anything.We gave him 12 years to do so diplomatically thru the U.N.and nothing has happened he has played with the weapons inspectors,and the U.N.. War sucks but sometimes its necessary cause some people don’t respond to talks.,and the U.S. is trying not to hurt civilians and limit damage to infrastructure such as power plants and roads.Some of the towns they have been thru in Iraq so far,the people have been cheering for and happy to see our soldiers.Yeah maybe propaganda,but I don’t believe so.Iraq says we are targeting civilians,if we were,Baghdad would be flattened like a parking lot by now,and our troops would not be on the ground. If people hate the United States so much,I say the U.S. should just sit back and do nothing for nobody in the world,no more giving of aid of food or billions of dollars in help to other countries.Your say your Country is being invaded,oh well deal with it yourselves.Your leader is a no good dictator killing your own people and suppressing you and human rights,we don’t care.What if we didn’t do anything to help.Hey people would still hate us. I am American,I don’t agree with everything my country does or doesn’t do.Namely giving aid to other countries of food and money,when we have or own homeless poor citzens that need help right here. If we find WMD or Saddam uses them against us,it will prove to the world that we are justified in our actions.9/11 changed the world and the U.S..and we will not stand by and let it happen  again.Time to get tough. Neon

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>I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of >Iraq or against it?  And why? >Gman

Against. If you want to know why, Google one of my many tirades/rants on the subject. The reasons for doing it are nowhere near compelling enough for me. Not even close. No matter how "easy" it ends up being, it won’t change my view that it’s a bullshit action designed to conveniently enhance the political and economic well-being of a select few. And the members of this select few are all cut from the same cloth.

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"Gman" <g…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:jhms7v43e9dogmiild2lmf8rv98kukbuc6@4ax.com… >     I’m curious as to how many people here are for the invasion of > Iraq or against it?  And why? > Gman

I don’t usually like answering questions like these but as a history major, I have to say I am for the invasion. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has used weapons of mass destruction on his own people ( chemical attack on the Kurds) and neighbors (chemical attack on Iran). We all know what happens when nations appease tyrants (Munich 1938) and don’t stand up to them. He pays the families of suicide bombers in Israel an exhorbitant amount of money, which encourages even more. I work in NYC and I know people who died and people who were affected by the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11 2001 and February 26, 1993.. Saddam and his regime supported the attacks and no doubt would have given chemical and biological weapons to terrorists. I also worked as an intern in the United Nations when I was in college, although it is designed to keep peace, let me be the first one to say that is an ineffective institution. What happened with the weapons inspectors is nothing new. I know there are many nations and people that hate the USA and it’s people, but that is nothing new. I rather the USA invade and remove a regime now and pay for it with a pint of blood then not do anything and bleed to death in the future. Now that is my opinion, and as a citizen of the USA and I express my right to post it. It’s too bad many other countries do not allow their citizens to express themselves freely.

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