Modern pacifism defined

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. Actually, the lack of public evidence troubles me a little too, but not because I don’t want bin Laden dead (or better yet spending the rest of his life in solitary confinement barely subsisting on bread and water.)  Bin Laden is already indicted for

"Bush says we must strike down terrorists wherever they are in the whole world, but he has shared tea and crumpets with Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, one of the world’s leading most brutal and bloodthirsty terrorists. Sharon committed a number of crimes against humanity, among them the massacre of 2,000 men, women and children in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon. Mr. Bush did not strike Mr. Sharon, instead he toasted him. America supplied weapons and bombs to Muslim separatist terrorists in Kosovo against the Yugoslav Christians, and then we bombed Yugoslavian cities full of civilians, when that country militarily attempted to suppress the revolt that we encouraged. Please understand, I don’t believe these American acts of war were the will of the American people. On the contrary, most Americans, at least up until September 11, have opposed almost every American involvement in foreign wars. For instance, a solid majority of Americans opposed the recent military intervention in Yugoslavia. But America is firmly in the grip of the New World Order crowd, and they use America to enforce their world agenda and hegemony. The death of 500,000 children I think most Americans would be appalled if they were fully aware of the suffering caused by American policy. For instance, most Americans no nothing about the effect of our embargo of food and medicine to Iraq. We caused the death of at least half a million children. That’s right; I repeat: we are directly responsible for the death of 500,000 kids. Some of you might not believe what I am telling you. Well, for those who don’t believe it, here is an excerpt of an interview between Leslie Stahl of CBS and Madeline Albright when she was US Secretary of State. The segment was called PUNISHING SADDAM, and Stahl was asking if the death of 500,000 children was worth it to punish this one man. Leslie Stahl, speaking of US sanctions against Iraq: "We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And — and you know, is the price worth it?" Madeline Albright: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price — we think the price is worth it." How would you view anyone who is willing to cause the death of 500,000 children to punish one man? How can we not understand why so many people hate the United States when our own Secretary of State says murdering 500,000 children is quote, "worth it?" The Big Lie of September 11 Knowing who did the terrorism of September 11 is important, but why they did it is even more important to us. Yet, strangely, there has been little discussion in the mass media on why the attack occurred. Politicians and media personalities have given us completely inadequate explanations why a couple of dozen young men would blow themselves up to get at us. In fact, they have told us absurd lies to keep Americans from understanding the real reason for the attacks. We have been told that the attackers were simply crazy, cowardly men who committed a quote "unprovoked attack." Media and government spokesmen repeatedly assured us that these attacks had "nothing to do with America’s support of Israel." The official view, as expressed by the President to the U.S. Congress, was that the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom! Here is an excerpt of his remarks before Congress "Americans are asking, "Why do they hate us?" "They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms." I am not trying to be disrespectful, but what he said is so ridiculous that even this intellectually challenged President cannot really believe it. Does Bush really think that a bunch of young men would give up their families, their homes, and immolate themselves in a huge ball of fire simply because they hate our democracy! Right on Mr. President! Next week, will we will hear about Islamic kamikazes crashing planes into Iceland, the oldest enduring democracy on earth. Mr. Bush is asking America to support a massive war over the next ten years. We are being asked to support a massive conflict whose huge costs could well bankrupt America and cause the loss of great numbers of American lives. Before we can make such a crucial decision, we deserve to have the whole truth concerning this cataclysmic event. Of course, Mr. Bush did not tell us the truth; he simply repeated the Big Lie put out by the American mass media. Saying that these acts were born out of hatred for freedom is a calculated lie to divert us from associating this disaster with our support for Israel. You see, associating the attack with our Israeli policy would be bad public relations for Israel and the Jewish Lobby. The last thing they want is for the American people to realize that our unconditional support of Israel has directly led to this disaster. If the American people clearly understand that fact, people might begin to ask a similar question to the one asked by Leslie Stahl, "Is our support of Israel really worth it?" To keep people from asking that obvious question, the media made up the Big Lie that the men of October 11 were simply crazy, cowardly people who hated freedom and democracy! The real reason for the attack Even the date the terrorists chose for this attack shows their true motivation. The attack occurred on September 11. That is the anniversary of the League of Nations proclaiming in Palestine the British Mandate in 1922. The date represents the first physical step toward the implementation of the Balfour Declaration and the establishment of Israel. Why has the mass media kept this important fact from the American people? Frankly, this fact has been suppressed because the American media are thoroughly dominated by Jews. Many Americans suspect that Jews have disproportionate influence in the press, but their actual power is more than most people imagine. If you want documented proof of their enormous media power, just go to my web page, www.davidduke.com and read the "Who Runs the Media?" chapter from my book, My Awakening. (Located at http://www.davidduke.com/awakening/chapter19_01.html) Just as Jewish Israel-Firsters dominate the mass media, so the Israeli Lobby afflicts Congress and the President. It should anger every American to think that the most powerful lobby in Congress is in the service of a foreign nation. Yet, the immense power of the Jewish Lobby is a proven fact, and nobody on Capitol Hill will dare defy this all-powerful lobby. Even one of the most powerful U.S. Senators in American history, William Fulbright, bluntly said on CBS’s Face the Nation, that, "Israel controls the U.S. Senate." Recently, a Hebrew Israeli radio station, Kol Yisrael, on October 3rd reported that during an argument in an Israeli cabinet meeting, Shimon Peres warned Prime Minister Ariel Sharon that unless he would heed American requests for a cease fire with the Palestinians, he could cause America to turn against Israel. In a fit of anger, Sharon responded to Peres: "Every time we do something, you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." (2) The media bosses and the Israel-bought politicians know the real reasons behind this terrorism. They have read the interviews of Osama Bin Laden. He and almost every other Islamic opponent of America has put support for Israel at the top of their top ten reasons for hating America. Bin Laden and countless millions in the Muslim world regard the attacks on Lebanon, on Iraq, on Libya, on Iran, on Afghanistan and on Sudan as a direct result of Israel’s control over America. They point out that the many Israeli massacres of Palestinians, the ongoing torture of thousands of prisoners, the use of assassination of political enemies, the bombing of refugee camps, and the expansive wars launched by Israeli’s against their Arab neighbors; that all these Israeli crimes are completely dependent on unconditional American aid. They also see the deaths of the 500,000 Iraqi children, as admitted by our former Jewish Secretary of State, as a direct result of Jewish control of America. The American people, who are under the bombardment of a biased multimedia, might not realize the Jewish control of American foreign policy, but the Palestinians and their allies such as Bin Laden, all understand it; and they hate us for it. In fact, the same mass media that are giving out the Big Lie that the terrorist motivation is "hate for freedom," are clearly aware of Bin Laden’s real motivations. I can easily prove the true motivation of bin Laden and I can prove the media has known the truth all along. In May of 1998 reporter John Miller of ABC interviewed Bin Laden. Bin Laden talks about why he seeks to attack America. You can find it on the ABC and the PBS web sites. Here are excerpts of bin Laden’s own words. "For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been slaughtered and assaulted and robbed of their honor and of their property. Their houses have been blasted, their crops destroyed. "This is my message to the American people: to look for a serious government that looks out for their interests and does not attack other people’s lands, or other people’s honor. And my word to American journalists is not to ask why we did that but ask what their government has done that forced us to defend ourselves." "So we tell … read more »

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America big.  America powerful.  America rich. Afghanistan small.  Afghanistan weak.  Afghanistan poor. Therefore, America bad.  Therefore, Afghanistan good. Osama is a hero because he (professes to) fight(s) for

"The ultimate cause of this terrorism stems from our involvement in and support of the criminal behavior of Israel. TERROR IN RESPONSE TO TERROR The Palestinians and many of their Arab allies have been the target of a half century of unrelenting Israeli terrorism. In the late 1940s the Zionists took over Palestine and drove out over 600,000 people from their homes through widespread acts of terrorism. Among those events was the sadistic massacre of 254 Palestinian mostly old men, women and children at Deir Yassin. After the bloodletting, the Jews then purposely publicized the event so as to make the people flee in panic from their homes and businesses from which they still haven’t been allowed to return. Former Israel Prime Minister, Menachem Begin, boasted of the importance of the massacre of Deir Yassin in his book The Revolt: The Story of the Irgun. He wrote that there would not have been a State of Israel without the "victory" of Deir Yassin. "The Haganah carried out victorious attacks on other fronts… In a state of terror, the Arabs fled, crying, ‘Deir Yassin." (1) Nor did the massacres cease after the establishment of the Jewish State; they continued in times of both peace and war. Following are the names of some of them: Sharafat Massacre, Kibya Massacre, Kafr Qasem Massacre, Al-Sammou’ Massacre, the Sabra And Shatila Massacre, Oyon Qara Massacre, Al-Aqsa Mosque Massacre, the Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre, the Jabalia Massacre. (2) In a policy of ethnic cleansing, Israel continues to keep residents of Palestine who were born there and whose families lived there for countless generations, from returning home. At the same time, it gives generous incentives for genetic Jews who never lived in Palestine to immigrate from the far corners of the world. The British also suffered greatly from Israeli terror, such as the horrendous bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. Israeli terror has not stopped since. Israel has more prisoners per capita than any other nation of the world, more than Stalinist Russia or Red China during its worst periods. It routinely tortures its Palestinian prisoners, and is in fact the only nation in the modern world that legally sanctions torture. In fact, a Jewish human rights group in Israel confirmed in a 60-page report that 85% of Palestinian detainees undergo torture while in custody.(3)  Even a major New York Times article by the Jewish Joel Greenburg, stated matter-of-factly that Israel tortures 500 to 600 Palestinians every month.(4) Israel has targeted and assassinated thousands of Palestinian leaders, and this includes scholars, clerics, businessmen, philosophers and poets, anyone who inspires the Palestinian people to patriotism. These assassinations have occurred all over the world, even in the United States. In the process they have killed many thousands of women and children. They have even repeatedly bombed Palestinian refugee camps packed with women and children. Not only did they establish their Israeli state over Palestinian land, (in 1948 Palestinians personally owned over 90 percent of it) the Jews took almost all of the Palestinian personal property: the land, farms, homes and businesses. After they drove out the Palestinian refugees and refused their return, they then passed an "abandoned property" law that confiscated Palestinian property and gave to the Jews. The law even has the chutzpah to forbid ever selling any of their stolen land to Palestinians. (5) In 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon. During their invasion and 18 year occupation an estimated 40,000 civilians died. Israel relentlessly bombed and attacked cities and villages and also many hospitals and orphanages (as documented by the Norwegian Red Cross) and devastated the ancient and once beautiful city of Beirut. The current Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon, doesn’t dare even step foot in Belgium or the Netherlands, fearing an indictment of the World Court for war crimes. Sharon is responsible for the murder of two thousand of refugees in the Sabra and Shatila camps in Lebanon. Israel shot down a Libyan passenger airliner over the Sinai Peninsula killing 111 people. And it is has not just been the Palestinians who have suffered from Israeli terror. ZIONIST TERROR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES Americans have also suffered from Zionist terror. In fact, Israel has committed a number of acts of war against the United States. Israel has a long record of terrorism against the United States going all the way back to 1954. In that year, the Israel government plotted to blow up American installations in Cairo and Alexandria and blame it on Egyptian nationals. By chance the plot failed and was uncovered. It was named the Lavon Affair after the man who supposedly set up the terrorism, Pinhas Lavon, the Israeli Defense Chief. He resigned in 1955 over the incident. (6) In 1967, Israel purposefully attacked with unmarked jet fighters and torpedo boats, the U.S.S. Liberty, an American Navy vessel of the Sinai Peninsula, even machine gunning the deployed life rafts of the ship. The attack killed 31 American servicemen and wounded over 170.(7)   They sought to sink the ship, kill all the Americans and blame it on the Egyptians so they could have American support to conquer larger areas of the Arab world. The attack on the Liberty was nothing short of a vicious act of war against the United States by Israel. In spite of the fact that U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk and navy chief Admiral Moorer said that the attack on the USS Liberty by Israel was deliberate. The all-powerful Zionist Lobby prevented a formal Congressional investigation. If the Lobby can even cover up horrendous Israeli crimes against America, it’s no wonder they can cover up Israel’s endless crimes against the Palestinians. Yet, after the Liberty attack America didn’t even reduce our billions of dollars of aid, in fact the story quickly vanished from the news after a few short days. In 1986 Israel actually caused us to wrongly go to war and militarily attack another nation.  The Mossad planted a transmitter in Tripoli, Libya and then broadcast terrorist messages in Libyan code indicating Libyan responsibility for killing two Americans in the bombing of the La Belle discoth

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