Anti-Kerry Book Publisher Also Publishes Racist Historical Revisionist Book Against Asian Americans

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Being Black is the problem with 90% of them causing crimes here in the USA. http://www.newnation.org/index2.html

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether one agrees with it or not, racial profiling has proven effective in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background.  IIRC, even Asian American and Sec. of Transportation Norm Mineta has basically stated this. Although I agree with the use of profiling where the severity of the potential outcome and imminent risk outweigh the importance of civil liberties, I don’t think Mineta or anyone else has proven that profiling has been effective in the war on terror.  To be effective means that it must be used, then it must be shown to PREVENT crimes.  That has NOT happened. Verno Racial profiling does work to an extent, it is more than just racial you see. In terrorism, majority would be CAUCASIAN, clean shaven if it is still early, could be tanned but still caucasian and carrying prayer beads. Hands would be nervous, fingering that prayer beads. Everything looks normal. How can you tell if the man (majority of cases it would be a man) is from the Middle East? By the accent, so you talk to him. Now, if you just use race as a basis, you would be stopping a large portion of the population in Europe and US, because this profile is really white and clean shaven, why clean shaven? This is what suicides are supposed to do! In neighborhoods across USA, this would not work very well. If you see a black man driving a BMW in Beverly Hills in a normal fashion, you should think that he lives there. If he drives abnormally, you are supposed to stop him no matter what his race is anyway. To stop him because he is black is not a good reason.

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Being Black is the problem with 90% of them causing crimes here in the USA. http://www.newnation.org/index2.html

Wrong. The truth is, the racism of the Whites against the coloreds is the problem causing crimes in the USA. So, actually the Whites are causing the crimes there.

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Being Black is the problem with 90% of them causing crimes here in the USA. http://www.newnation.org/index2.html Wrong. The truth is, the racism of the Whites against the coloreds is the problem causing crimes in the USA. So, actually the Whites are causing the crimes there.

Ahhh. chure… White racism causes blacks to commit most of their crimes against blacks. Got it. You wait here.  I’m calling some nice men to help you.

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Being Black is the problem with 90% of them causing crimes here in the USA. http://www.newnation.org/index2.html Wrong. The truth is, the racism of the Whites against the coloreds is the problem causing crimes in the USA. So, actually the Whites are causing the crimes there.

You’re both wrong, and you’re both racists, too. Verno

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Being Black is the problem with 90% of them causing crimes here in the USA. http://www.newnation.org/index2.html Wrong. The truth is, the racism of the Whites against the coloreds is the problem causing crimes in the USA. So, actually the Whites are causing the crimes there.

Racism is a factor in the US, just as it is a factor in Japan.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether one agrees with it or not, racial profiling has proven effective in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background.  IIRC, even Asian American and Sec. of Transportation Norm Mineta has basically stated this. Although I agree with the use of profiling where the severity of the potential outcome and imminent risk outweigh the importance of civil liberties, I don’t think Mineta or anyone else has proven that profiling has been effective in the war on terror.  To be effective means that it must be used, then it must be shown to PREVENT crimes.  That has NOT happened. Verno Racial profiling does work to an extent, it is more than just racial you see. In terrorism, majority would be CAUCASIAN, clean shaven if it is still early, could be tanned but still caucasian and carrying prayer beads. Hands would be nervous, fingering that prayer beads. Everything looks normal. The previous poster said: "racial profiling has PROVEN EFFECTIVE in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background" His statement was incorrect.  If racial profiling has been PROVEN effective, it would: a) have been IN USE, and b) have caught terrorists Neither is true. What you’ve done, and what the previous poster did, was to list the characteristics of past terrorists. I agree that the terrorists for 9-11 all fit that profile.  But for profiling to be effective, it must be shown that it has worked to catch terrorists before they strike.  AFAIK, it hasn’t. That doesn’t mean it WON’T be effective, but until it DOES catch terrorists before they strike, it hasn’t been PROVEN effective. Verno Profiling is just one of the tools, that means it has to be guided with other things that go with it. You are correct that alone it isn’t effective, in fact it is stupid.

I don’t think it’s stupid.  It’s stereotyping, which is what allowed the human race to survive.  We stereotyped sabre-tooth tigers, believing all of them were dangerous.  We were right. Verno

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – August 20, 2004 Contact: Robert Dhondrup 310-493-3567;  … Regnery Publishing Publishes Book that Lies & Attempts to Rewrite the Painful History of the Japanese American Internment … Michelle Malkin makes her living by writing against the civil liberties and human rights. I saw Michelle Malkin selling her book on PBS WETA’s Tucker Carlson:Unfiltered[1] ( the PBS website describes Carlson as a combination of a conservative and a libertarian ). Don’t tell that to a Libertarian – the combination of "Conservative" and "Libertarian" sounds like a contradiction in terms on many levels. When asked Malkin was unable to cite any criminal case where racial profiling was proven an effective law enforcement tool. Whether one agrees with it or not, racial profiling has proven effective in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background.  IIRC, even Asian American and Sec. of Transportation Norm Mineta has basically stated this. Although I agree with the use of profiling where the severity of the potential outcome and imminent risk outweigh the importance of civil liberties [snip] Note too that our constitution does not apply to non citizens.

Have there been no citizens under suspicion? Verno

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether one agrees with it or not, racial profiling has proven effective in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background.  IIRC, even Asian American and Sec. of Transportation Norm Mineta has basically stated this. Although I agree with the use of profiling where the severity of the potential outcome and imminent risk outweigh the importance of civil liberties, I don’t think Mineta or anyone else has proven that profiling has been effective in the war on terror.  To be effective means that it must be used, then it must be shown to PREVENT crimes.  That has NOT happened. Verno Racial profiling does work to an extent, it is more than just racial you see. In terrorism, majority would be CAUCASIAN, clean shaven if it is still early, could be tanned but still caucasian and carrying prayer beads. Hands would be nervous, fingering that prayer beads. Everything looks normal.

The previous poster said: "racial profiling has PROVEN EFFECTIVE in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background" His statement was incorrect.  If racial profiling has been PROVEN effective, it would: a) have been IN USE, and b) have caught terrorists Neither is true. What you’ve done, and what the previous poster did, was to list the characteristics of past terrorists. I agree that the terrorists for 9-11 all fit that profile.  But for profiling to be effective, it must be shown that it has worked to catch terrorists before they strike.  AFAIK, it hasn’t. That doesn’t mean it WON’T be effective, but until it DOES catch terrorists before they strike, it hasn’t been PROVEN effective. Verno

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether one agrees with it or not, racial profiling has proven effective in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background.  IIRC, even Asian American and Sec. of Transportation Norm Mineta has basically stated this. Although I agree with the use of profiling where the severity of the potential outcome and imminent risk outweigh the importance of civil liberties, I don’t think Mineta or anyone else has proven that profiling has been effective in the war on terror.  To be effective means that it must be used, then it must be shown to PREVENT crimes.  That has NOT happened. Verno

There was a terrorist cell busted in Buffalo NY and several folks with terrorist ties stopped at both the Canadian and Mexican borders.  In both cases, racial profiling was used.  Besides, despite the many efforts on the part of terrorists, we haven’t had an attack in the US since 9/11.  That’s all the preventitive proof I need.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – August 20, 2004 Contact: Robert Dhondrup 310-493-3567;  … Regnery Publishing Publishes Book that Lies & Attempts to Rewrite the Painful History of the Japanese American Internment … Michelle Malkin makes her living by writing against the civil liberties and human rights. I saw Michelle Malkin selling her book on PBS WETA’s Tucker Carlson:Unfiltered[1] ( the PBS website describes Carlson as a combination of a conservative and a libertarian ). Don’t tell that to a Libertarian – the combination of "Conservative" and "Libertarian" sounds like a contradiction in terms on many levels. When asked Malkin was unable to cite any criminal case where racial profiling was proven an effective law enforcement tool. Whether one agrees with it or not, racial profiling has proven effective in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background.  IIRC, even Asian American and Sec. of Transportation Norm Mineta has basically stated this. Although I agree with the use of profiling where the severity of the potential outcome and imminent risk outweigh the importance of civil liberties [snip]

Note too that our constitution does not apply to non citizens.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whether one agrees with it or not, racial profiling has proven effective in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background.  IIRC, even Asian American and Sec. of Transportation Norm Mineta has basically stated this. Although I agree with the use of profiling where the severity of the potential outcome and imminent risk outweigh the importance of civil liberties, I don’t think Mineta or anyone else has proven that profiling has been effective in the war on terror.  To be effective means that it must be used, then it must be shown to PREVENT crimes.  That has NOT happened. Verno Racial profiling does work to an extent, it is more than just racial you see. In terrorism, majority would be CAUCASIAN, clean shaven if it is still early, could be tanned but still caucasian and carrying prayer beads. Hands would be nervous, fingering that prayer beads. Everything looks normal. The previous poster said: "racial profiling has PROVEN EFFECTIVE in the war on terror, mostly because 99.9% of the terrorists have, so far, been from the middle east and of the same general racial/ethnic background" His statement was incorrect.  If racial profiling has been PROVEN effective, it would: a) have been IN USE, and b) have caught terrorists Neither is true. What you’ve done, and what the previous poster did, was to list the characteristics of past terrorists. I agree that the terrorists for 9-11 all fit that profile.  But for profiling to be effective, it must be shown that it has worked to catch terrorists before they strike.  AFAIK, it hasn’t. That doesn’t mean it WON’T be effective, but until it DOES catch terrorists before they strike, it hasn’t been PROVEN effective. Verno

Profiling is just one of the tools, that means it has to be guided with other things that go with it. You are correct that alone it isn’t effective, in fact it is stupid.

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Note too that our constitution does not apply to non citizens.

Since when? — Dan Clore My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_: http://www.wildsidepress.com/index2.htm http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587154838/thedanclorenecro Lord We

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