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_The New York Times_ on Armenian Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslims

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued: Why don’t you go and stick those publications up your ass maybe it will be more helpfull for you.

Sorry but, they are _Armenian Publications_ about the Armenian slaughtering of 2.5 million Muslims and Sephardic Jews, ‘davudoglu the crook’. Hence, the appropriate place to stick them up would be an _Armenian a**_. Don’t you think so? You misarable fuck, you are a sorry excuse for a living soul.

More ridicule. I take it? It is simply a matter of justice for our grandparents, cold-bloodedly butchered by your Armenian grandparents in 1914, ‘davudoglu the crook_. In addition, ‘Armenian Church-SDPA’s record as a _forger_ is unmatched. The genocide staged by the Armenians 81 years ago against 2.5 million defenseless Muslim and Jewish women, children and elderly people in Russian Armenia and Eastern Anatolia is being reenacted again — this time in puppet Russian Armenia and Karabag. There are remarkable similarities between the plots, the perpetrators, and the underdogs. _TIME_ March 16, 1992 By Jill SMOLOWE -Reported by Yuri ZARAKHOVICH/Moscow           M A S S A C R E  I N  K H O J A L Y While the details are argued, this much is plain: something grim and unconscionable happened in the Azerbaijani town of Khojaly two weeks ago. So far, some 200 dead Azerbaijanis, many of them mutilated, have been transported out of the town tucked inside the Armenian-dominated enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh for burial in neighboring Azerbaijan. The total number of deaths – the Azerbaijanis claim 1,324 civilians have been slaughtered, most of them women and children – is unknown. Videotapes circulated by the Azerbaijanis include images of defaced civilians, some of them scalped, others shot in the head. _The Independent_ 2/29/92 By Helen Womack "Elif Kaban, a Reuter correspondent in Agdam, reported that after  a massacre on Wednesday, Azeris were burying scores of people who  died when Armenians overran the town of Khojaly, the second-biggest  Azeri settlement in the area. ‘The world is turning its back on  what’s happening here. We are dying and you are just watching,’  one mourner shouted at a group of journalists."  _Reuters_ 2/12/92 _Armenians Burn Azeri Village_ "Armenian Army attacked a strategic Azeri village…in Nagorno-Karabagh  and burned it to the ground on Tuesday, Commonwealth television reported.  Channel one television said the village of Malybeili, in the Khodzhalin  district, was now cut off and a large number of wounded were left stranded.    Itar-Tass news agency said several people were killed and 20 wounded in  the attack on the village… Tass also said shells fired from Armenian  villages into the Azeri populated town of Susha, just 6 miles south of  Stepenakert, demolished two houses and damaged five others." Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued: Born 1954 Senior Engineer Sumgait Automotive Transport Production Association

So, he was not around during the Armenian slaughtering of 2.5 million Muslims and Jews in Russian Armenia and Eastern Anatolia in 1914, ‘davudoglu the crook’. Then, what was his role in the Armenian genocide of 1.3 million defenseless Azeri people in 1992? Please spell it out for us. A typical _Armenian Church-SDPA_ wacko… _The Sunday Times_ 1 March 1992 By Thomas Goltz, Agdam, Azerbaijan    ARMENIAN SOLDIERS MASSACRE HUNDREDS OF FLEEING AZERI FAMILIES Survivors reported that Armenian soldiers shot and bayoneted more than 450 Azeris, many of them women and children. Hundreds, possibly thousands, were missing and feared dead. The attackers killed most of the soldiers and volunteers defending the women and children. They then turned their guns on the terrified refugees. The few survivors later described what happened: ‘That’s when the real slaughter began,’ said Azer Hajiev, one of three soldiers to survive. ‘The Armenians just shot and shot. And then they came in and started carving up people with their bayonets and knives.’ ‘They were shooting, shooting, shooting,’ echoed Rasia Aslanova, who arrived in Agdam with other women and children who made their way through Armenian lines. She said her husband, Kayun, and a son-in-law were massacred in front of her. Her daughter was still missing. One boy who arrived in Agdam had an ear sliced off. The survivors said 2000 others, some of whom had fled separately, were still missing in the gruelling terrain; many could perish from their wounds or the cold. By late yesterday, 479 deaths had been registered at the morgue in Agdam’s morgue, and 29 bodies had been buried in the cemetery. Of the seven corpses I saw awaiting burial, two were children and three were women, one shot through the chest at point blank range. Agdam hospital was a scene of carnage and terror. Doctors said they had 140 patients who escaped slaughter, most with bullet injuries or deep stab wounds. Nor were they safe in Agdam. On friday night rockets fell on the city which has a population of 150,000, destroying several buildings and killing one person. Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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Mr. Kutan, Please edit your headers to remove soc.culture.pakistan from this thread and all related threads.  It is not too relevant to the soc.culture.pakistan newsgroup. Thank you. Saif Al-Shirawi.

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued: My name is Emil Petrossian, and I’m sitting here with my ARMENIAN friend Vrej Balian. We read your enchanting letter, and well, have something to say about it. I’m not a coward, and neither is my friend. But we’re Armenian. Our grandparents might have murdered Muslims and Jews, but Now, computer, you are going to interrupt the comments of reasonable people.  Of course, you’re a computer so you don’t know any better.

You don’t get it — do you, ‘davudoglu the crook’? Your Armenian grandparents murdered 2.5 million of our people in 1914 and did not pay a _dime_ for it. And, you were already punished when you were born as an Armenian and inherited the unspeakable crimes of your criminal Armenian grandparents. The articles published at the time also include the Russian Armenian Government ordered wholesale rape and murder of Muslim girls and women, survivors’ accounts of the death camps, the murder of prisoners and the destruction of all mosques. Source: Ramazan Korkmaz, "The Armenian Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslim         People as Narrated by Living Eye Witnesses", 1993, Kok Publishers,         Yenisehir 06441. ‘The Turkish nation pity the Armenians,’ the author says in the conclusion. Indeed. The principal organizers of the Armenian genocide of Muslim and Sephardic Jewish people were Dro, Antranik, Armen Garo, Hamarosp, Daro Pastirmadjian, Keri, Karakin, Haig Pajise-liantz and Silikian. Now, the fact is, 2.5 million Muslim and Sephardic Jewish people did perish in 1914. Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued:  1)     You are not accomplishing aything by this dialogue, if you can call it that.  All this is is a series of of posts that insult each other personally, each others’ heritage, and claim that the other side is more terrible thatm the other because of the atrocities they have commited.  You are not going to convince the other that you are right.

Why should we try to convince anyone about the historical facts? Would you try to convince someone about the _Jewish Holocaust_? We are here to _demand justice_ for 2.5 million of our people, slaughtered by the Armenians in Russian Armenia and Eastern Anatolia starting 1914. We are here to _demand justice_ for 1.3 million Azeri people, genocided by the Armenians in Russian Armenia and Karabag in 1992. There’s a very strange thing about unfinished business.  It sticks.

Exactly, ‘davudoglu the crook’. Armenians will pay for their crime of genocide. RUSSIAN STATE DUMA DEPUTIES`  STATEMENT  CONCERNING  ARMENIAN  ARMED FORCES’ ONGOING AGGRESSION      BAKU (APRIL  25)  TURAN:  "  In connection with the continuing offencives by the Armenian armed forces  into  the  territories  of Azerbaijan  we  suggest  that you take immediate measures to curb the Armenian aggression aimed to expand  the  occupied  zones" says  the  statement of Russian State Duma representatives headed by Sergey Baburin, who are in Baku.     Today this statement was directed to President Yeltsin,  to the Federation Council’s head Shumeyko,  head  of  the  State  Duma  of Russia Rybkin, as well as to Chernomirdin, the Premier.     The statement also says that the deputies’ visit  to  the  front line  has  persuaded the State Duma delegation of brutal actions of Armenian invadors in 7 occupied Azeri districts. [deleted] ——- And the year is 1988. Sad, indeed.                 An Appeal to Mankind During the last three years Azerbaijan and its multinational population are vainly fighting for justice within the limits of the Soviet Union. All humanitarian, constitutional human rights guaranteed by the UN Charter, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Helsinki Agreements, Human Problems International Forums, documents signed by the Soviet Union – all of them are violated. The USSR’s President, government bodies do not defend Azerbaijan though they are all empowered to take necessary measures to guarantee life and peace. The 240,000 strong army of Armenian terrorists with Moscow’s tacit consent wages an undeclared war of annihilation against Azerbaijan. As a result, a part of Azerbaijan has been occupied and annexed, thousands of people killed, thousands wounded. Some 400,000 Azerbaijanis have been brutally and inhumanly deported from the Armenian SSR, their historical homeland. Together with them 64,000 Russians and 62,000 Kurds have also been driven out, a part of them now settled in Azerbaijan. Some 80,000 Turkish-Meskhetians, Lezghins and representatives of other Caucasian nationalities who escaped from the Central Asia where the President and government bodies did not guarantee them the life and peace also suffered from these deportations. One of the scandalous vandalisms directed not only against Azerbaijan science but the world civilization as well is the Armenian extremists’ destruction of the Karabakh scientific experimental base of The Institute of Genetics and Selection of the Academy of Sciences of the Azerbaijan SSR. We beg you for humanitarian help and political assistance, for the honour and dignity of 7 million Azerbaijanis are violated, its territory, culture  and history are trampled, its people are shot. There is persistent negative image of Azerbaijanians abroad, and this defamation is spread over the whole world by Soviet mass media, Armenian lobby in the USSR and the United States. We are for a united, indivisible, sovereign Azerbaijan, we are for a common Caucasian home proclaimed in 1918 by one of the founding fathers of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic – Muhammed Emin Rasulzade. But all these goals and expectations are trampled upon the Soviet leadership in favour of the Armenian expansionists encouraged by Moscow and intended to create a new ‘1,000 Year Reich’ – the ‘Great Armenia’ – by annexing the neighboring lands. The world public opinion shed tears to save the whales, suffers for penguins dying out in the Antarctic Continent. But what about the lives of seven million human beings? If these people are Muslims, does it mean that they are less valuable? Can people be discriminated by their colour of skin or religion, by their residence or other attributes? All people are brothers, and we appeal to our brothers for help and understanding. This is not the first appeal of Azerbaijan to the world public opinion. Our previous appeals were unheard. However, we still carry the hope that the truth beyond the Russian and Armenian propaganda will one day reveal the extent of our suffering and stimulate at least as much help and compassion for Azerbaijan as tendered to whales and penguins.                 THE COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE’S HELP TO                 KARABAKH (OF THE) ACADEMY OF SCIENCES                 OF THE AZERBAIJAN SSR – 1988 Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued: Why must there be a Kurdish empire in order for there to be a Kurdistan?

Now that explains why the puppet Russian Armenian Government exterminated 900,000 defenseless Kurdish women, children and elderly people between 1914 and 1916. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – _Yes, sir. Armenians had to murder 2.5 million Muslim people  in 1914 in the pursuit of self-determination and that more  Muslim and Jewish people have to die._ _Yes, I stated this and stand by it._ comment: Do you know that Armenians with Russian support killed more than 100000 Azeris in Baku in 1905 during so called ‘March days? -Do you know that they ethnically cleansed Karabagh of all Azeris with Russian support? -Do you know that they killed Turks and Kurds during Russian offensives in WWI?

Then, why would *Armenian Church-SDPA* revisionists have to deny the Armenian slaughtering of Muslim and Jewish people? It is not your fault that 1. Armenians exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people in x-Soviet/Russian    Armenia and Eastern Anatolia between 1914 and 1920. 2. Armenians fully participated in the extermination of the European    Jewry in 1941. 3. Armenians exterminated 1.3 million Azeri people between 1988 and    1993 and 25% of Azeri soil is now occupied by the Russian Armenian    Government. No wonder Kurdish people would also continue to demand justice for the victims of the Armenian barbarism.  _Today’s ethnic cleansing policies by the Serbian dictatorship against   Croatians and Muslims of Yugoslavia, as well as the Soviet Republic   of Armenia’s against the Muslim population of neighboring Azerbaijan,   are really no different in their aspirations than the genocide   perpetrated by the Armenian Government 78 years ago against the   Turkish and Kurdish Muslims and Sephardic Jews living in these   lands._         (Cebbar Leygara – Kurdish Leader – October 13, 1992)            ’Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them and in             whatever circumstances you find them. Turkish children             also should be killed as they form a danger to the             Armenian nation.’ (Hamparsum Boyadjian – 1914)[1]   [1] M. Varandian, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun," p. 85. Source: Hassan Arfa, "The Kurds," (London, 1968), pp. 25-26.  "When the Russian armies invaded Turkey after the Sarikamish massacre   of 1914, their columns were preceded by battalions of Armenian   Army, both from the Caucasus and from Turkey. One of these was   commanded by a certain Andranik, a blood-thirsty adventurer.   These Armenian volunteers committed all kinds of excesses, more   than six hundred thousand Kurds being killed between 1915 and 1916   in the eastern vilayets of Turkey." Well, again, this is a gross underestimation of the _total_ number of Kurdish people massacred by the Armenians in Russian Armenia and Eastern Anatolia, Dr. Argic. First off, _Arfa_ would fail to address the Armenian genocide of more than 300,000 Kurdish people in Russian Armenia as his book would solely focus on the Armenian extermination of the Kurdish people in Eastern Anatolia between _1914 and 1916_. Secondly, he would ignore the murder of 250,000 Kurdish people by the Armenians in six _vilayets_ between 1917 and 1919. I would strongly recommend the following scholarly sources regarding the _total_ number of Kurdish people massacred by the Armenians in _both_ Russian Armenia and Eastern Anatolia between 1914 and 1920.

Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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Please remove soc.culture.pakistan from your headers. Thank you. Saif Al-Shirawi.

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued: [BM]  There is a great deal of fakery going on in here.  

What do you expect from _Armenian Church-SDPA_, ‘davudoglu the crook’? The Tzeghagrons (Armenian Racial Patriots — Nazi Armenians) was the youth organization of the Armenians. It was based in Boston (where Muslim/Jewish Holocaust apologists of SDPA/Armenian Church are located) but had followers in Armenian colonies all over the world. Literally Tzeghagron means _to make a religion of one’s race._ The architect of the Armenian Racial Patriots was Garegin Nezhdeh, a Nazi Armenian who became a key leader of collaboration with Hitler in World War II. In 1933, he had been invited to the United States by the Central Committee of the Armenians to inspire and organize the American-Armenian youth. Nezhdeh succeeded in unifying many local Armenian youth groups in the Tzeghagrons. Starting with 20 chapters in the initial year, the Tzeghagrons grew to 60 chapters and became the largest and most powerful Nazi Armenian organization. Nezhdeh also provided the Tzeghagrons with a philosophy:  _The Racial Religious beliefs in his racial blood as a deity.   Race above everything and before everything. Race comes first._[1] [1] Quoted in John Roy Carlson (real name Arthur Derounian),     _Armenian Affairs_ Winter, 1949-50, p. 19, footnote. The Armenians were deeply anti-semitic as well. In the May 10, 1936 edition of _Hairenik Weekly_ (an official mouthpiece for the ex-Soviet Armenian Government) the vice-mayor of Bucharest, Rumania is quoted as saying: _The Armenians helped us not to become the slaves of the Jewish  elements in our country._ In another edition, an author named Captain George Haig writes: _And the type of Jew who is imported to Palestine…is not anything  to be proud about. Their loose morals, and other vices were  unknown to the Arabs prior to Balfour Declaration, on top of  all communist activities were the cause of most of the Arab  criticism._[1] [1] Captain George Haig, _The Case of Palestine_ in Hairenik     Weekly, Friday, September 25, 1936. Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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what would have happened if all of one group left in the middle of the night, and took over a desert in Arabia?  Who would have hated whom? Who would have won, lost or what? I don’t like several people, but since someone does, I leave them alone!  I’m not all that much better than some of the people…

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued:     First Public Exhibition of Official Motion Picture Today.

Now, we are getting somewhere, ‘davudoglu the crook’. In Yerevan, puppet Russian Armenian Government admitted that the Army of Russian Armenia was engaged in _massacring Muslim women and children._ It is within the Armenian Army’s philosophy to act like that. From the same book: _Several thousand Kurdish civilians, including women and  children, were taken from their homes in and around this  village and slaughtered by the Armenian Army troops during  a December offensive against Kurdish guerillas, according  to three survivors who say they witnessed the above massacres._ Ramazan Korkmaz, "The Armenian Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslim         People as Narrated by Living Eye Witnesses", 1993, Kok         Publishers, p. 22. Prof A. Balkan, _The Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslim Inhabitants                  of Eastern Anatolia and Russian Armenia_ 1972,                  Metin Publishers. p. 18. "In Kundar, 28,049 of the 30,482 Kurdish peasants slaughtered by  the Armenians, according to the list the Muslim people have prepared,  were children under 14 years old. In Kapili, villagers say the  Armenians massacred a father and his nine children, a mother and  her five; in Cayan, 8706 adults and 6339 children." Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued:

Not a chance, ‘davudoglu the crook’. Not a chance. Therefore the world should forget everything about the

1. Armenian genocide of the Urartus. 2. Armenian extermination of 2.5 million Muslims and Sephardic Jews in 1914. 3. Armenian genocide of the Jewish people in 1941. 4. Armenian genocide of more than 1.3 million Azeri people in 1992. 5. Greek genocide of millions of Muslims and Jews in history. Fair enough? Source: Prof A. Balkan, "The Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslim Inhabitants         of Eastern Anatolia and Russian Armenia," 1972, Metin Publishers. p. 27. "U.S. Ambassador Bristol wrote that Russian Armenian army had attacked  many Muslim villages with artillery and machine guns, that the local  people’s goods and animals had been usurped, that young women had been  taken away, the women and children had been tortured to death in the  mountains, that these attacks on the properties, lives and honor of  the Muslims were still being perpetrated, and requested the Russian  Armenian Government to put an end to them." p. 34. "In spite of all the good will that Mustafa Kemal showed, the French  occupation forces continued arming the Armenians to suppress the  Muslim people, and were giving them free rein to attack Muslim  villages and to kill the peasants. In Mustafa Kemal’s words,  ’The massacre against Muslims that was being perpetrated by the   the Armenians in Maras was enough to terrorize all humanity.’  When similar events broke out in Urfa, Mustafa Kemal said:  ’the French who hide behind the mask of civilization and the   Armenians who serve them as examples have started a cruel   massacre among the Muslim people in and around Urfa.’  On 3 March, Mustafa Kemal expressed his concerns in these words:  ’In Cilicia, Armenians are being armed by the French and are being   set loose upon the Muslim people. They have locked many Muslims in   churches, the fate of these Muslims is not known, and many women   have been raped.’ p. 35.  When nationalists started an armed defense against such Armenian  massacres against the Muslim people in Maras, Mustafa Kemal stated  the following about the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslims:  ’Armenians who are armed by the French forces who have occupied the   southern areas are brought together under the protectorate of France.   They are attacking the Muslims in their vicinity with a desire for   genocide and are resorting to a merciless policy of murders and   massacres. The Armenians who collaborated with the French forces of   General Keret razed to the ground an ancient Muslim city like Maras   and tortured and slaughtered thousands of defenseless mothers and   children. Armenians are responsible for this savagery unprecedented   in history.’  Admiral Bristol followed closely the events in the Cilicia region  because he was in contact with the American representatives who  witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people. The  reports that he sent to Washington D.C. show how accurate Mustafa  Kemal’s observations were. What is more, the French Commander-in-Chief  in Syria and High Commissioner General Gouraud also wrote to Paris  about the massacres committed by the Armenians, and his reports  serve to corroborate Mustafa Kemal’s statements." Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued: Hey, Lulu.  If you’re going to quote me, why not at least provide a full quote.  At it is, I didn’t say anything about pasta.  But if I had, I would have noted the clear statements on the packages.   Even you could probably read the difference between pasta from Italy and pasta from Turkey.  

_pasta_? What are you mumbling about, ‘davudoglu the crook’? Our position is the following: The _Muslim Holocaust_ is a historical fact. We learned a little bit about the Jewish Holocaust, but this period of history was obviously not stressed even though the Armenian genocide of the Muslim and Sephardic Jewish people is part of the curriculum now. Doc. Dr. Azmi Suslu, "Russian View on the Genocide Committed by                       the Armenians Against the Muslims" 1987,                       pp. 45-53. "On February 12, Armenian Army massacred more than ten thousand  innocent Moslems. The Russian soldiers who attempted to save  these people were threatened with death.  In Erzurum, the Armenians burned down the Muslim market. On February  17, I heard that the entire population of Tepekoy village, situated  within the artillery area, had been totally annihilated by the Armenians.  On the same day when Antranik entered Erzurum, I reported the massacre  to him, and asked him to track down the perpetrators of this horrible  act. However no result was achieved.  In the villages whose Muslim inhabitants had been massacred, there  was a natural silence. On the night of 26/27 February, the Armenians  deceived the Russians, perpetrated a massacre and escaped for fear of  the Russian soldiers. Later, it was understood that this massacre had  been based upon a method organized and planned in a circular. The Muslim  population had been herded in a certain place and then killed one by one.  The number of murders committed on that night reached eleven thousand.  It was the Armenians who bragged about the details of the massacre.  The leading Armenians of the community could have prevented this  massacre. However, the Armenian intellectuals had shared the same  ideas with the renegades in this massacre, just as in all the others.  The lower classes within the Armenian community have always obeyed  the orders of the leading Armenian figures and commanders.  I do not like to give the impression that all Armenian intellectuals  were accessories to these murders. No, for there were people who  opposed the Armenians for such actions, since they understood that  it would yield no result. However, such people were only a minority.  Furthermore, such people were considered as traitors to the Armenian  cause. Some have seemingly opposed the Armenian murders but have  supported the massacres secretly. Some, on the other hand, preferred  to remain silent." Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued: I am posting the following article without commentary.  I thought you may find it interesting.  I will not reply to any responses posted to s.c.t since I do not read s.c.t.  E-mail me if you like.  I am (obviously) back from Armenia.

Now that you mention it, considering the historical garbage that you have raised, I am indeed forced to conclude that I do not have a very high opinion of your intelligence. Or, were you just having another smelly day, ‘davudoglu the crook’. No wonder _Armenian Church_ has decided to punish that beacon of _SDPA_ fraud. Hear it: The year is 1914. Source: Prof F. Hertas, "Van Muslim Holocaust Museum: Muslim and Western         Documents on the Genocide Committed by the Armenians Against the         Muslims," 1984. p. 147. "Between 1914 and 1920, two and a half million Muslim people were  murdered by the Armenians in Russian Armenia and Eastern Anatolia."   Source: Ramazan Korkmaz, "The Armenian Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslim         People as Narrated by Living Eye Witnesses", 1993, Kok Publishers,         Yenisehir 06441. ‘The Turkish nation pity the Armenians,’ the author says in the conclusion. Indeed. The principal organizers of the Armenian genocide of Muslim and Sephardic Jewish people were Dro, Antranik, Armen Garo, Hamarosp, Daro Pastirmadjian, Keri, Karakin, Haig Pajise-liantz and Silikian. Now, the fact is, 2.5 million Muslim and Sephardic Jewish people did perish in 1914. The articles published at the time also include the Russian Armenian Government ordered wholesale rape and murder of Muslim girls and women, survivors’ accounts of the death camps, the murder of prisoners and the destruction of all mosques. Prof A. Balkan, ‘The Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslim Inhabitants of Eastern Anatolia and Russian Armenia,’ 1972, Metin Publishers. p. 178. "It is sufficient to mention just some of the terrible and shameful  crimes committed only in Erzurum to get an idea about the Armenian  atrocities in the villages. I would also like to mention with disgust  and abominable sight, a stain on humanity, that I encountered at the  west of Hasankale while we were proceeding into this town. There was  a young Muslim women, apparently once a very beautiful one, lying  dead on one side of the road. A huge stick had been inserted into  her vagina. We took the corpses and left it at a spot that was invisible  from the road." p. 182. "It has been learnt from the statements of reliable people escaping  from the Erivan region that, Moslem population living under the  jurisdiction of the Government of the Armenian Republic, are not  yet free, and that many are still being massacred by the Armenian  Army, and their properties plundered." Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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(Armenian Church-SDPA) continued:     Petrograd,  Nov 11 —  Refugees who  have arrived  here from     Constantinople report that the state of things there and  in     Turkey generally is appalling.

Okay, ‘davudoglu the crook’. For a moment, let us assume that the puppet Russian Armenian Government is reluctant to pay for the Armenian crime of genocide perpetrated against 2.5 million Muslim and Jewish people, given the fact that puppet Russian Armenia is one of the poorest countries on earth. But, why are you, as an official mouthpiece for "Armenian Church-SDPA", reluctant to acknowledge the unspeakable crimes of your Armenian grandparents and teach them in the "Armenian Church"? Are you afraid that the Armenians may also hate the "Armenian Church". Remember that the truth will always win in an open forum. No wonder in September 16, 1920, Major General W. Thwaites, Director of Military Intelligence, wrote to Lord Hardinge, Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs: _It is useless to pretend that the Armenians are satisfactory  allies, or deserving of all the sympathy to which they claim._[*] [*] F.O. 331/3411/158288. Moreover, in the Special Collection at Stanford Hoover Library, donated by Georgia Cutler, the letter dated Nov. 1, 1943 states that _Prescot Hall wrote a large volume to prove that Armenians were  not and never could be desirable citizens, that they would  always be unscrupulous merchants._ Prof A. Balkan, _The Genocide of 2.5 Million Muslim Inhabitants                  of Eastern Anatolia and Russian Armenia_ 1972,                  Metin Publishers. p. 92. _Following the occupation by Armenians after the Russian evacuation,  Armenians have burned and destroyed all Moslem villages and massacred  the people. This horrible deed, was not committed only West of Border  93 (The border at the time of 1877 – 1878 Ottoman – Russian War) but  also East of the border in Erivan, Gumru, Kars, Kagizman, Sarikamis  and partly in Ardahan and Ahilek in all the villages. The massacres  are confirmed by documentary proof and evidence.  Part of the incidents and occurrences investigated by military troops  in the operation regions are outlined below:  a. On 29 April, Moslems sent to Ahilek from Gumru on 5,000 carts,     were completely massacred by Armenians.  b. Villages of Zarudsad (Arpacay) district and of Melik were burnt     and inhabitants were massacred.  c. Again early in April, 67 villages of Suragil district were razed     to the ground.  d. An Armenian force, 18,000-strong, equipped with machine guns and     forty artillery guns in Kulp and vicinity, destroyed all villages     in Kulp and Erivan region, East of Kagizman.  e. On 1 May, a 28,000-strong Armenian cavalry murdered over 16,000     women, children and men in Sibes, Tepe, Duzkent and region. On     25 April, 5,700 Moslems from Subusan village East of Kars were     massacred by axes and knives and the corpses burnt. In Magisto     and Alaca villages, over 7,000 women, children and men were     murdered with the same brutality. All the inhabitants of Tekneli,     Haci Halil, Kalul, Harabe, Dagor, Milanli, Ketak, Alaca and Ilham     villages were massacred by Armenians.  f. On 1 May, the inhabitants of Dangal, Acarca, Mulabi, Morcahit,     Badigna, Havur, Koros villages burnt. Villages around Samran     Northeast of Erivan and around Boguylu North of Kinefski over     Arpacay were burnt and the inhabitants massacred. Many of our     soldiers were prisoners of war at Kars and many in Gumru were     bayonetted to death by Armenians in the presence of other Muslim     soldiers.  g. In short, the majority of the Moslem villages of Kars, Sarikamis,     Erivan, Ahilkelek, and Kagizman have been destroyed by Armenians.  h. The above are only small part of the crimes of Armenians in the     region. But these can be viewed as examples of the overall scene._ Millions of Muslims lost grandfathers, grandmothers, aunts and uncles at the hands of Armenians in x-Russian/Soviet Armenia and Eastern Anatolia between 1914 and 1920. When the Muslim soldiers entered the city of Erzincan they found all public and Islamic buildings and more than 10,000 houses demolished by the Armenians. Thousands of bodies of Erzincan’s Muslims were found in the streets, thousands more in wells or shallow graves. In other cities the scenes awaiting the Muslim people were similar. 4000 buildings in Bayburt had been burned down and thousands of bodies were in the streets. Tercan had been completely destroyed by dynamite. In Erzurum, the greatest city of the east, Muslim officials estimated that 48,000 Muslims had been killed in the city alone. The figure may have been exaggerated, but the officials did count and record each body buried by them and 42,127 male bodies were buried in the first 8 days. Out of a sense of decency, the soldiers did not count the female bodies buried or report what had happened to them. The atrocities in the cities were repeated in the villages. On the Armenian line of retreat the Muslims who could not flee were killed. Very few houses and no complete villages remained. An Austrian newspaper reporter, who could not be accused of liking the Russians, Austria’s enemy, stated that the Russians had treated the people of the region relatively well, but that when Russia collapsed Armenian Army destroyed the Muslims. Dr. Stephan Eshnanic traveled the region and wrote _I have been observing the evidence of the cruelties of the Armenians  at almost every step. All the villages from Trabzon to Erzincan and  from Erzincan to Erzurum are destroyed._[1]   Muslim refugees, the remainder of the original population, who had been able to remain during the Russian occupation, now choked the roads. [1] Reported to the "Nues Wiener Tagblatt, Prester Lloyd, etc._ Murat Kutan <<We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide   inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914   and 1920. {A. Zahorian — ‘Voices of Agonies’, p. 91}

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je ne parle pas l’anglais ,mais il me semble avoir compris ce dont tu veux parler . aujourd’hui aussi on veut exterminer l’islam, et ceci de differentes mani

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