Tree ID, Part II

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Well, Gandy was thinking of that old song: Three visually-impaired rodent-americans, Three visually-impaired rodent-americans; Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion, Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion; They rapidly approached the agribusiness female, who used a knife to differently-enable their tails; Did you ever visually detect such a scene in your life as three visually-impaired rodent-americans?         Oh, my. Is it all right for me to forward this to my wife? It must be a sickness…

OK with me if you forward that. But I must warn you, I have since been informed that it is properly "three visually-*challenged* rodent-Americans," not "visually-impaired." Regards, Bill — Those who do not learn the lessons of science fiction are condemned to live them.

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Well, Gandy was thinking of that old song: Three visually-impaired rodent-americans, Three visually-impaired rodent-americans; Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion, Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion; They rapidly approached the agribusiness female, who used a knife to differently-enable their tails; Did you ever visually detect such a scene in your life as three visually-impaired rodent-americans?

Bill, my ribs HURT!  I can’t BREATHE!  You are wicked! Chris Owens

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Bill, my ribs HURT!  I can’t BREATHE!  You are wicked!

No, as my first posting clearly indicated, I am "ethically challenged". I am *not* evil or wicked. Regards, Bill — "Those who do not learn the lessons of science fiction are condemned to live them."  

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It’s all those immoral mushrooms he munches. ;-)

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Well, Gandy was thinking of that old song: Three visually-impaired rodent-americans, Three visually-impaired rodent-americans; Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion, Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion; They rapidly approached the agribusiness female, who used a knife to differently-enable their tails; Did you ever visually detect such a scene in your life as three visually-impaired rodent-americans?

Oh, my, that is a gem! :o ) — Ann, Gardening in Zone 6a Just south of Boston, MA http://www.annzoid.com

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Um, Gandy, people who use terms like ‘visually impaired’ are differently brained.  [Calling me motion-impaired, as one of my social workers insists on doing, doesn't make me any more able to walk than being honest and calling me a cripple.  :)]

        Thank you for that one. I am so sick of correctspeak that I could puke and it ain’t going to get any better, I fear. I have a very dear friend who is blind as a fencerail. One of his favorite peeves (and one about which I have listened to the blinky bastard rail for _years_) is the ridiculous lengths to which "well-meaning" people will go in order to avoid using visually-related expressions in casual conversation; such as, "do you see", "see you later", etc. — Derald

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Yeah  I got your PC Right here. Politically correct speach is slavespeak no damn different than yes sir massa Tom There is an extra Bee in the Email address after the AOL.com

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…and they wonder why there’s so much violence in this country; I mean, what’s up with that woman runnin’ around chopping tails off mice?!  Then you have the two kids who lure the woman out to this deserted house and push’er into an oven…Jack got pushed down the hill by that overly aggressive feminist, Jill…an unknown assailant pushed Humpty off the wall – and they assigned HORSES as medics!  What they don’t tell you was that got the PETA folks upset, and they spray-painted all the king’s men. Gandy Who thinks Bore oughtta adopt this as a campaign issue – somethin’ he can understand. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, Gandy was thinking of that old song: Three visually-impaired rodent-americans, Three visually-impaired rodent-americans; Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion, Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion; They rapidly approached the agribusiness female, who used a knife to differently-enable their tails; Did you ever visually detect such a scene in your life as three visually-impaired rodent-americans? Regards, Bill (the ethically challenged) — "Those who do not learn the lessons of science fiction are condemned to live them."

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Well, Gandy was thinking of that old song: Three visually-impaired rodent-americans, Three visually-impaired rodent-americans; Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion, Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion; They rapidly approached the agribusiness female, who used a knife to differently-enable their tails; Did you ever visually detect such a scene in your life as three visually-impaired rodent-americans?

        Oh, my. Is it all right for me to forward this to my wife? It must be a sickness… — Derald

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OK, I’m getting a *little* smarter about this tree identification stuff.  My earlier post on this subject was sort of like a blind man (Oops!  I mean *visually impaired person*) trying to describe an elephant by feeling it’s tail.

Um, Gandy, people who use terms like ‘visually impaired’ are differently brained.  [Calling me motion-impaired, as one of my social workers insists on doing, doesn't make me any more able to walk than being honest and calling me a cripple.  :)] Chris Owens

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OK, I’m getting a *little* smarter about this tree identification stuff.  My earlier post on this subject was sort of like a blind man (Oops!  I mean *visually impaired person*) trying to describe an elephant by feeling it’s tail. Um, Gandy, people who use terms like ‘visually impaired’ are differently brained.  [Calling me motion-impaired, as one of my social workers insists on doing, doesn't make me any more able to walk than being honest and calling me a cripple.  :)]

Well, Gandy was thinking of that old song: Three visually-impaired rodent-americans, Three visually-impaired rodent-americans; Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion, Observe the cursorial nature of their locomotion; They rapidly approached the agribusiness female, who used a knife to differently-enable their tails; Did you ever visually detect such a scene in your life as three visually-impaired rodent-americans? Regards, Bill (the ethically challenged) — "Those who do not learn the lessons of science fiction are condemned to live them."  

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Thanks – I’m 99% sure at this point that it’s a Black Cherry.  Here’s link to the VA Tech Tree ID site, and while the bark in their picture looks a lot more uniform than mine, everything else seems to fit: http://www.fw.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/pserotina2.htm Gandy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gandy, I agree – Black Cherry – based on the strong similarities to the photos in the National Audubon Society "Field Guide to North American Tree – Easter Region".  Your blooms are prettier than the ones in their book.  The tree’s blooms, I mean.

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Earlier I thought that could be it, but "Peterson’s Field Guide to Trees" describes the Chokecherry as having sharp-toothed leaves (the ones on this are blunt-toothed), and the Chokecherry has smooth bark, while the mature bark on this (lower portion of the trunk depicted in the photo) is rough. Unfortunately, the book doesn’t depict the flowers on the Black Cherry (just the fruit) and the picture of the flowers on the Chokecherry do look very much like what I have. Anyway, thanks for your input, and I’m still leaning to Black Cherry.  Guess to be absolutely positive, I’ll have to wait for the fruit to develop. Gandy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe common chokeberry?

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Gandy Dancer wrote… [...] Anyway, here’s an updated photo showing the tree in bloom, detail of the older bark, and a detail of the underside of one leaf; it’s looking like a Black Cherry to me: http://image.photoloft.com/image.asp?s=plft&u=53828&a=39824&i=1819630

Gandy, I agree – Black Cherry – based on the strong similarities to the photos in the National Audubon Society "Field Guide to North American Tree – Easter Region".  Your blooms are prettier than the ones in their book.  The tree’s blooms, I mean.

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Maybe common chokeberry?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, I’m getting a *little* smarter about this tree identification stuff. My earlier post on this subject was sort of like a blind man (Oops!  I mean *visually impaired person*) trying to describe an elephant by feeling it’s tail. Anyway, here’s an updated photo showing the tree in bloom, detail of the older bark, and a detail of the underside of one leaf; it’s looking like a Black Cherry to me: http://image.photoloft.com/image.asp?s=plft&u=53828&a=39824&i=1819630

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OK, I’m getting a *little* smarter about this tree identification stuff.  My earlier post on this subject was sort of like a blind man (Oops!  I mean *visually impaired person*) trying to describe an elephant by feeling it’s tail. Now I understand that a tree can have several kinds of bark – when it’s young, one kind and a completely different kind when it’s older.  So you not only have to look at the bark you see at eye level, you need to look at the base of the tree. And, I was thoroughly confused by that simple/compound leaf thing.  I assumed that a twig is formed, then leaves grow from the twig.  Wrong!  In the case of this tree, anyway, the group of leaves form (which looks *exactly* like the illustration of compound leaves), but then the twig grows and the leaves separate, making them simple.  (I can relate to that!) Anyway, here’s an updated photo showing the tree in bloom, detail of the older bark, and a detail of the underside of one leaf; it’s looking like a Black Cherry to me: http://image.photoloft.com/image.asp?s=plft&u=53828&a=39824&i=1819630 For those of you who may have missed my earlier post requesting assistance in identifying this tree, here’s the first set of images (which created some confusion because of the bark issue and because the tree had not bloomed): http://image.photoloft.com/image.asp?s=plft&u=53828&a=39824&i=1617299 Appreciate any feedback! Gandy

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