The word "humbug" equals two year prison sentence

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… This has already happen to at least two "American Citizens" that I know of. Which ones ? I bet these ilks were tried because of deeds committed in Germany. let me lecture you: The iurisdiction of German laws is *strictly* (with a few exceptions like genocide) limited to german soil and *no* German court has *any* iurisdiction outside Germany.

As usual, this idiot is trying to make the criminals victims. Gary Lauck was imprisoned in Germany for spreading hate literature IN GERMANY, not in America

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Oh, to the contrary! When an "American" says something while "on American soil" he, or she "can be held accountable" for his or her opinions if that subject visits Europe. Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… This has already happen to at least two "American Citizens" that I know of.

For those of you who legitimately concerned with the rights of "American citizens", the following pages will give you insight to how your right to "free speech" was violated by the Danish, and German governments. The Hans Schmidt Case: http://www.lockstockandbarrel.org/letters/LTE019.htm http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/9508SCHM.HTML http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs961b.html http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs962b.html The Gary Lauck Case: http://www.jewishsf.com/bk950616/inazi.htm http://www.caller-times.com/autoconv/newsworld99/newsworld185.html http://www.lincolnne.com/nonprofit/aclune/courts.htm#First_Amendment The David Irving Case: http://www.hoffman-info.com/info1.html http://www.ihr.org/bios/irving.html NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only.

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First, you and your con-racists are the last to complain, since it is your goal to destroy freedom of speech. Second, American citizens are not above the law of other countries. Therefore, if they smuggle in literature for criminal organizations (as for instance any Nazi-party on *american* demand is in germany), they are considered criminals.

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Haw Haw is the type of moron who will take a gun into Mexico, because he has, in the USA, the right to keep and bear arms, and believes that this constitutional right should be extended to him in that country as well How dumb can you get??? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh, to the contrary! When an "American" says something while "on American soil" he, or she "can be held accountable" for his or her opinions if that subject visits Europe. Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… This has already happen to at least two "American Citizens" that I know of. For those of you who legitimately concerned with the rights of "American citizens", the following pages will give you insight to how your right to "free speech" was violated by the Danish, and German governments.

Absolute bullshit. Haw haw is a total moron as he believes that American law should prevail in other countries. Racist communities abound with such idiots The Hans Schmidt Case: http://www.lockstockandbarrel.org/letters/LTE019.htm

The law in Germany is clear. Break it, and then visit that country, and you can expect to be jailed. It isn’t America, you idiot, so American law is about as applicable as Martian law. If you dont like ther laws, dont go there. Just don’t whine about it in alt.california – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/9508SCHM.HTML http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs961b.html http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs962b.html The Gary Lauck Case: http://www.jewishsf.com/bk950616/inazi.htm http://www.caller-times.com/autoconv/newsworld99/newsworld185.html

. " As long as he was in the United States, Lauck was able to get around Germany’s laws against fascist literature because he was protected by the U.S. constitutional right to free speech" Do you understand what is said here, dimbulb?? Obviously not. Lauck DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY broke German laws prohibiting the distribution of hate literature, and then was moronically stupid enough to visit a neigbouring country with an extradition treaty with Germany, where this pathetic idiot was arrested Your pathetic whining doesn’t change facts http://www.lincolnne.com/nonprofit/aclune/courts.htm#First_Amendment The David Irving Case:

Irving has chosen to express an unpopular opinion, which is a crime under German Law. If Mr irving chooses to visit Germany, he can expect the same treatment as Gary Lauck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.hoffman-info.com/info1.html http://www.ihr.org/bios/irving.html

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it should not,but neither shoud; German law prevsail HERE. Germany has no jurisidiction over American acts on American soil. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Hans Schmidt Case: http://www.lockstockandbarrel.org/letters/LTE019.htm The law in Germany is clear. Break it, and then visit that country, and you can expect to be jailed. It isn’t America, you idiot, so American law is about as applicable as Martian law. If you dont like ther laws, dont go there. Just don’t whine about it in alt.california http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/9508SCHM.HTML http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs961b.html http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs962b.html The Gary Lauck Case: http://www.jewishsf.com/bk950616/inazi.htm http://www.caller-times.com/autoconv/newsworld99/newsworld185.html . " As long as he was in the United States, Lauck was able to get around Germany’s laws against fascist literature because he was protected by the U.S. constitutional right to free speech" Do you understand what is said here, dimbulb?? Obviously not. Lauck DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY broke German laws prohibiting the distribution of hate literature, and then was moronically stupid enough to visit a neigbouring country with an extradition treaty with Germany, where this pathetic idiot was arrested Your pathetic whining doesn’t change facts http://www.lincolnne.com/nonprofit/aclune/courts.htm#First_Amendment The David Irving Case: Irving has chosen to express an unpopular opinion, which is a crime under German Law. If Mr irving chooses to visit Germany, he can expect the same treatment as Gary Lauck

In order to break German law,you have to be IN Germany. Michael _

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – German Neo-Nazi Sentenced GREVESMUEHLEN, Germany (AP) _ A well-known German neo-Nazi was sentenced Thursday to two years in prison without parole for denying the Holocaust. Manfred Roeder, 70, was given the sentence for referring to the Holocaust as “humbug” during an August 1998 election rally in the eastern German city of Stralsund. So what?? Germanys laws have nothing to do with the USA Oh, to the contrary! When an "American" says something while "on American soil" he, or she "can be held accountable" for his or her opinions if that subject visits Europe. prove it. Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"…

We should just bomb the shit out of Germany until those two Americans are released. Michael

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Haw Haw is the type of moron who will take a gun into Mexico, because he has, in the USA, the right to keep and bear arms, and believes that this constitutional right should be extended to him in that country as well How dumb can you get??? Oh, to the contrary! When an "American" says something while "on American soil" he, or she "can be held accountable" for his or her opinions if that subject visits Europe. Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… This has already happen to at least two "American Citizens" that I know of. For those of you who legitimately concerned with the rights of "American citizens", the following pages will give you insight to how your right to "free speech" was violated by the Danish, and German governments. Absolute bullshit. Haw haw is a total moron as he believes that American law should prevail in other countries. Racist communities abound with such idiots it should not,but neither shoud; German law prevsail HERE. Germany has no jurisidiction over American acts on American soil. The Hans Schmidt Case: http://www.lockstockandbarrel.org/letters/LTE019.htm The law in Germany is clear. Break it, and then visit that country, and you can expect to be jailed. It isn’t America, you idiot, so American law is about as applicable as Martian law. If you dont like ther laws, dont go there. Just don’t whine about it in alt.california http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/9508SCHM.HTML http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs961b.html http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs962b.html The Gary Lauck Case: http://www.jewishsf.com/bk950616/inazi.htm http://www.caller-times.com/autoconv/newsworld99/newsworld185.html . " As long as he was in the United States, Lauck was able to get around Germany’s laws against fascist literature because he was protected by the U.S. constitutional right to free speech" Do you understand what is said here, dimbulb?? Obviously not. Lauck DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY broke German laws prohibiting the distribution of hate literature, and then was moronically stupid enough to visit a neigbouring country with an extradition treaty with Germany, where this pathetic idiot was arrested Your pathetic whining doesn’t change facts http://www.lincolnne.com/nonprofit/aclune/courts.htm#First_Amendment The David Irving Case: Irving has chosen to express an unpopular opinion, which is a crime under German Law. If Mr irving chooses to visit Germany, he can expect the same treatment as Gary Lauck In order to break German law,you have to be IN Germany.

I hate to break this to you Mike, but you are dead wrong. If a South American drug dealer exports his product to the USA, then your contention is that he has not broken the law in the USA. While in America Lauck could not be arrested as he had not broken US law, but once he set foot in Germany he was liable for prosecution by German courts and subject to their jurisdiction – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael _

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Was Lauck subject to German jurisdiction when he committed the act he was convicted of? Nope.He didn’t have to be. The two Arabs who the bombed the PanAm flight over Lockerbie weren’t in the USA either. Does this mean they are not guilty of the crime of murdering hundreds of US citizens?? That is why they waited for ten years until he was within their jurisdiction before they arrested him with the help of the FBI

the plane was an AMERICAN plane. Yes,that act fell under American jurisdiction. A simple yes or no will suffice. It obviously didn’t. If you want to act like a lawyer, then study the law. A simple answer to to a question requiring a complex answer is the tactics adopted by slick lawyers. And a slick lawyer, you ain’t

It should be fairly easy to ascertain if Lauck’s acts were subject to German jurisdiction. for example,if he made a contract to have hate material shipped to Germany,that would fall under Germnay’s jurisdiction. A while ago,one of the pedophiles of the National Alliance used a German anonymoius remailer to e-mail death threats. the BKA cut off that pedophile’s access to the server. Michael Q: How do you separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance? A: Use a crowbar.

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Don’t give up your day job, Mike Germany has ablsolutely no right to regulate the activities of foreigners on foreign soil. Lauck was spreading hate literature IN Germany, Mike.

then Germany has jurisdiction over those acts. "Lauck was arrested on an international warrant from Germany when he attended a convention of neo-Nazis in Denmark in March 1995. In September, he was extradited to Germany on the basis of a Danish law that bans racist statements."

He also broke the law in Denmark,as well. Now, if Lauck had saisd those things in GERMANY,the authorities might have a good reason to do something like that. But you see,that prosecution violates American national sovereignty. What don’t you understand about this concept Mike?? If you send drugs to England, and then visit that country, you will be arrested. What is so hard to understand about Lauck doing the same thing. Racist literature is illegal in Germany, and Lauck had been smuggling his racist shit into that country for over ten years before he was caught. The moron broke German law, and was found guilty in a German court. You might be interested to not that the German authorities were assisted in apprehending Lauck by the FBI

You are right about that. Michael Q: How do you separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance? A: Use a crowbar.

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Germany has ablsolutely no right to regulate the activities of foreigners on foreign soil. Now, if Lauck had saisd those things in GERMANY,the authorities might have a good reason to do something like that. But you see,that prosecution violates American national sovereignty. I guess the question becomes muddy when we go imposing our laws on foreigners in foreign countries, doesn’t it? Does Manuel Noriega ring a bell?

Yes,it does. I have heard of that case,although I do not know if,under international law,Noriega’s conduct falls under American jurisdiction. Michael Q: How do you separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance? A: Use a crowbar.

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Free Speech Directory || National Alliance Main Page Free Speech – January 1996 – Volume II, Number 1 The Silencing of Hans Schmidt By Dr. William Pierce Perhaps you’ve noticed recently how pleased the news media have been to inform us that Mr. Clinton’s popularity with the electorate is rising. His so-called "approval rating" is higher than it’s ever been, largely because he is perceived as taking a decisive and principled stand to bring peace to Bosnia. It’s not that the American people are happy about the possibility of becoming involved in yet another war, but they are pleased to see their draft-dodging, pot- smoking President, who was in the streets with the Reds and the hippies chanting "Ho, ho, ho Chi Minh, the Viet Cong’s gonna win" back during the Vietnam war, finally trying to act like a statesman by using American diplomacy and military power to end the butchery in Bosnia: finally trying to walk tall and carry a big stick. Probably that makes many Americans feel a little safer, feel that their President will stick up for them when they need him. Well, let me tell you something else about Mr. Clinton’s supposed principles: about the way he walks tall and sticks up for Americans when they need the support of their government. Five months ago, in August 1995, an American was seized by the German secret police at the airport in Frankfurt as he was preparing to return to the United States after visiting his 93-year-old mother in Germany. He was thrown into a German prison, where he remained until very recently, without trial and without bond. His name is Hans Schmidt. He lives in Pensacola, Florida. He has been a U.S. citizen for 40 years. He committed no crime while he was in Germany. He has never done anything, either in Germany or the United States, which is a crime under U.S. law. What he had done, however, was publish a newsletter in 1994 in the United States which displeased the Jews. You see, Mr. Schmidt heads the German- American National Political Action Committee, an organization dedicated to the interests of Americans of German descent, like Mr. Schmidt himself – and like 55 million other Americans. One topic which Mr. Schmidt often discusses in his newsletters is the Jews’ hate-propaganda campaign against Germany, especially their claim that the Germans gassed 6,000,000 of them to death during the Second World War, and therefore the Germans of today owe the Jews of today a free living. In particular, Mr. Schmidt criticized the anti-German hate film Schindler’s List, pointing out a number of Jewish propaganda lies in the film. Now, in the United States it’s still not illegal to criticize a film – even a Jewish propaganda film. But in Germany it’s a different story. In Germany to contradict the Jewish party line about the so-called "Holocaust" is illegal. It’s what the Jews and their news media call a "hate crime." Many Germans are in prison today simply because they have written or said something the Jews didn’t like. That’s because the German government today is a continuation of the occupation government imposed on the German people 50 years ago by the communist and democratic Allies who conquered Germany in the Second World War. It is a government in which German patriots were forbidden to participate. It consists of traitors who were willing to serve the conquerors of their people – of ambitious traitors who understood that the way to power and privilege in conquered Germany lay in pleasing the Jews. And these traitors were happy to impose on their own people whatever laws the Jews demanded. They taxed the German people so that the German government could send tens of billions of dollars to Israel in so-called "war reparations" – even though Israel didn’t even exist during the war. And they enacted laws making it illegal for Germans to criticize or contradict Jews. Now, of course, German laws are the business of the Germans. Until the German people rise up, hang their traitors, and form a patriotic government, they’ll have to do without freedom of speech and freedom of the press. They’ll have to obey the laws imposed on them by a government of traitors or pay the penalty for breaking those laws. But those laws cannot be imposed on Americans for what Americans do on American soil. The German government cannot. take away an American’s right to say or write what he wants in America. Hans Schmidt has been a naturalized American citizen for 40 years. He has committed no crime in Germany. The German government has no jurisdiction over what he has written in America. And yet he has been arrested by the German secret police and imprisoned. How can that be? Why did that happen? I’ll tell you. Hans Schmidt was arrested for two reasons. First, there are Jewish hate organizations in every country, including the United States and Germany, which not only make Jewish hate propaganda for the Jew-controlled media, but which also spy on the people of the country in which they are located. They compile hate lists of people who say or write things which displease them. They distribute these hate lists to their news media, and then the people on the lists are accused of "hate crimes" by the media. And they distribute these hate lists to the governments over which they have influence, and they demand that the governments take repressive action against the people on the lists. Hans Schmidt’s name is high on most of these Jewish hate lists. That’s one of the reasons he was arrested by the German secret police. A second reason is that the German secret police knew ahead of time that the United States government would not protest Hans Schmidt’s arrest. More important, they knew that the Jew-controlled news media would remain silent-that there would be no headlines in the New York Times or the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal or any other Jewish newspaper. They knew that the U.S. government would not protest, because the head of the secret police in the United States, Mr. Clinton’s FBI Director Louis Freeh, has pledged to them repeatedly during the past two years that he would do everything he could to help them silence Americans who are saying things the Jews don’t like. He has publicly lamented the fact that the United States does not have repressive laws like those in Germany, which prohibit Politically Incorrect speech. He has publicly lamented the fact that the FBI cannot arrest people like Hans Schmidt – and me and many other Americans on the Jews’ hate lists – but he has pledged that he would help the German secret police arrest them. And that’s exactly what he has done. Mr. Freeh is a politically ambitious little man, and he knows which side his bread is buttered on. He knows whom he must please in order to remain in favor in the Clinton government. And so when Americans on a Jewish hate list travel to another country, Mr. Freeh’s secret police in Washington tip off the secret police in the other country. They collaborate in punishing American citizens for exercising their Constitutional rights. And of course, it’s not just Mr. Freeh who is engaged in this subversive, anti- American activity. The whole Clinton government is composed of people who want to abolish the U.S. Constitution and its Bill of Rights, so that they can usher in the New World Order, where no one will be permitted to say or write anything which is not Politically Correct. They want a New World Order governed by "hate laws," where anyone who doesn’t toe the line can be thrown into prison for a "hate crime." They take their lead from Jews who already have succeeded in imposing such laws on the people of Germany, of Canada, of Britain, and of many other European countries. The Clinton government could not silence Hans Schmidt while he was in America, but they did collaborate with the German government in silencing him, and they continue to collaborate with the German government by failing to protest its imprisonment of an American citizen. Contrast this despicable, treasonous behavior of the Clinton government in Hans Schmidt’s case with its behavior in the case of the Chinese dissident, Harry Wu. We’ve all heard about Harry Wu, because the controlled news media in America made a celebrity of him when he was arrested by the Chinese government a few months ago. The Clintonistas became his champions and protectors. Mrs. Clinton wouldn’t attend an international feminist conference in China, because the Chinese had Harry Wu in jail. And Harry Wu had quite clearly broken Chinese law in China by illegally sneaking into the country with a forged passport. We may sympathize with Mr. Wu’s anti-Communism, but we cannot honestly pretend to be outraged when the Chinese government arrests him for entering China with a forged passport. That’s illegal everywhere. Hans Schmidt, on the other hand, did nothing illegal in either Germany or the United States. He was arrested solely because the Jews demanded it, and because their lackeys in the German government knew that their lackeys in the U.S. government wouldn’t protest. That is something to be outraged about. Now, I’ve known Hans Schmidt for 15 years. He’s a personal friend. At a time when I was even poorer than I am today, he gave me an automobile. It’s an automobile which my wife still drives. I’ve spoken often with him over the years and shared important information with him. So I have a personal reason for being outraged at what has been done to Hans Schmidt. But you should be just as outraged as I am. The attack on Hans Schmidt’s rights and freedom is an attack on the rights and freedom of every American. If Hans Schmidt can be silenced, so can I – or you – or anyone. If we don’t express our outrage now about what has been done to Hans Schmidt, who will speak up for us when we are silenced? There’s … read more »

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Proven by Lauck spending 4 years in a German prison. Game, set and match Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… We should just bomb the shit out of Germany until those two Americans are released.

Fortunately the powers that be in this country recognize the right of Germany to make its own laws, and also reconize that American who break those laws and then exhibit the stupidity of visiting the region to gloat, are subject to those laws Don’t give up your day job, Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… We should just bomb the shit out of Germany until those two Americans are released. Fortunately the powers that be in this country recognize the right of Germany to make its own laws, and also reconize that American who break those laws and then exhibit the stupidity of visiting the region to gloat, are subject to those laws Don’t give up your day job, Mike

Germany has ablsolutely no right to regulate the activities of foreigners on foreign soil. Now, if Lauck had saisd those things in GERMANY,the authorities might have a good reason to do something like that. But you see,that prosecution violates American national sovereignty. And for that,we should bust him out of prison,even if wre have to kill thousands just to do it. Michael

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Irving has chosen to express an unpopular opinion, which is a crime under German Law. If Mr irving chooses to visit Germany, he can expect the same treatment as Gary Lauck In order to break German law,you have to be IN Germany. I hate to break this to you Mike, but you are dead wrong. If a South American drug dealer exports his product to the USA, then your contention is that he has not broken the law in the USA. While in America Lauck could not be arrested as he had not broken US law, but once he set foot in Germany he was liable for prosecution by German courts and subject to their jurisdiction

Was Lauck subject to German jurisdiction when he committed the act he was convicted of? A simple yes or no will suffice. Michael

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I guess the question becomes muddy when we go imposing our laws on foreigners in foreign countries, doesn’t it? Does Manuel Noriega ring a bell?

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Was Lauck subject to German jurisdiction when he committed the act he was convicted of?

Nope.He didn’t have to be. The two Arabs who the bombed the PanAm flight over Lockerbie weren’t in the USA either. Does this mean they are not guilty of the crime of murdering hundreds of US citizens?? That is why they waited for ten years until he was within their jurisdiction before they arrested him with the help of the FBI A simple yes or no will suffice.

It obviously didn’t. If you want to act like a lawyer, then study the law. A simple answer to to a question requiring a complex answer is the tactics adopted by slick lawyers. And a slick lawyer, you ain’t – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Haw Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… We should just bomb the shit out of Germany until those two Americans are released. Fortunately the powers that be in this country recognize the right of Germany to make its own laws, and also reconize that American who break those laws and then exhibit the stupidity of visiting the region to gloat, are subject to those laws Don’t give up your day job, Mike Germany has ablsolutely no right to regulate the activities of foreigners on foreign soil.

Lauck was spreading hate literature IN Germany, Mike. "Lauck was arrested on an international warrant from Germany when he attended a convention of neo-Nazis in Denmark in March 1995. In September, he was extradited to Germany on the basis of a Danish law that bans racist statements." Now, if Lauck had saisd those things in GERMANY,the authorities might have a good reason to do something like that. But you see,that prosecution violates American national sovereignty.

What don’t you understand about this concept Mike?? If you send drugs to England, and then visit that country, you will be arrested. What is so hard to understand about Lauck doing the same thing. Racist literature is illegal in Germany, and Lauck had been smuggling his racist shit into that country for over ten years before he was caught. The moron broke German law, and was found guilty in a German court. You might be interested to not that the German authorities were assisted in apprehending Lauck by the FBI And for that,we should bust him out of prison,even if wre have to kill thousands just to do it.

You need to take a Valium and chill out. You aren’t making any sense at all – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael

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Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"… This has already happen to at least two "American Citizens" that I know of.

Which ones ? I bet these ilks were tried because of deeds committed in Germany. let me lecture you: The iurisdiction of German laws is *strictly* (with a few exceptions like genocide) limited to german soil and *no* German court has *any* iurisdiction outside Germany.

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Then being cognizant of the laws of another sovereign state, you would do well to keep your racist opinions to yourself if you have any plans for visiting that country. Let me stress the importance of this again, I want everyone who reads this to completely understand. If you as an "American citizen" express your first amendment right "in America" (breaking no American law mind you!), you can be "tried and convicted" for what you said "in America" if you happen to visit Germany, or any other European country where "free speech is outlawed"…

And you in your arrogance seem to believe that American law should apply to Americans when they are in Germany right?? If you want to spew racial hatred the way you do, then take a tip: Stay out of Germany This has already happen to at least two "American Citizens" that I know of.

I suspect this is another load of whining bullshit. I assume that one of the people you mean is Gary Lauck. He was jailed for spreading hate literature in Germany, and not airing his views in America. I am sure if you were to name the second idiot, I would be able to prove that you were lying yet again – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only.

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German Neo-Nazi Sentenced GREVESMUEHLEN, Germany (AP) _ A well-known German neo-Nazi was sentenced Thursday to two years in prison without parole for denying the Holocaust. Manfred Roeder, 70, was given the sentence for referring to the Holocaust as “humbug” during an August 1998 election rally in the eastern German city of Stralsund. In Germany, it is illegal to deny the Holocaust. The rally was part of his unsuccessful parliamentary campaign as a candidate for the extreme-right National Party of Germany. During the trial, Roeder said a tape of his speech had been “manipulated and falsified,” claiming statements that would have cleared him were edited out. But the judge agreed with three witnesses who said the tape was genuine. Roeder has spent time in prison before. In 1982, he was convicted in Stuttgart of incitement to murder and other charges related to arson attacks that killed two foreigners. He was released in 1990 after serving eight years of a 13-year sentence. — NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only.

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So what?? Germanys laws have nothing to do with the USA

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This is not Germany, why are you posting this here? We could care less about what Germans want to do in their country. Go complain in the German newsgroups. regards, The Devil’s Advocate

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This is not Germany, why are you posting this here? We could care less about what Germans want to do in their country. Go complain in the German newsgroups.

How come you just don’t killfile him, like everyone else who seems to rub your thin-skinned hide the wrong way? J

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This is not Germany, why are you posting this here? We could care less about what Germans want to do in their country. Go complain in the German newsgroups. How come you just don’t killfile him, like everyone else who seems to rub your thin-skinned hide the wrong way?

Simple. If you leave these morons to post there propaganda without response, some confused kid might just be dumb enough to take their crap as gospel. We can’t have that now, can we?? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – J

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – German Neo-Nazi Sentenced GREVESMUEHLEN, Germany (AP) _ A well-known German neo-Nazi was sentenced Thursday to two years in prison without parole for denying the Holocaust. Manfred Roeder, 70, was given the sentence for referring to the Holocaust as “humbug” during an August 1998 election rally in the eastern German city of Stralsund. So what?? Germanys laws have nothing to do with the USA

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