I feel safe too, Steve

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hiya Jen, (BD posting as Fido, if you haven’t already figured it out!<g) Neat observations here. I’m terrified and turned off by the idea of entering matrimony again

Just a thought – why would this be a problem? You are anticipating that you would get married again. If I offered the following: You do not have to get married unless you absolutely want to, and are positive that it is the right thing for you to do. Now, then, I would suggest that you either: Have not considered that; or do not beleive that it is true. Just throwing it out her – I guess, kinda running it up the flag pole, see if anyone salutes <g. Best & Kindest - BD * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Is it ok to just know how to do those things, or do you actually have to have *time* to do them? Funny, I used to balance my checkbook and change the bulbs *before* I was a single mom. Now . . . hey, the fewer functioning bulbs in the house, the lower the electricity bill But seriously, there’s something to be said for "gender complementarity" in marriage can be a good idea, as long as everybody is upfront and honest about their skills and weaknesses and doesn’t feel screwed over by the division of labor. I mean, it’s a little redundant to have two skilled auto mechanics or financial advisors under one roof. This needn’t mean assuming traditional gender roles, just making a reasonable assessments of individual talents and preferences. It should be planned and periodically renegotiated. Me, for example? Yes, I can balance a checkbook and pay the bills, but "life’s little administratia" is not one of my strengths. I’m just to scatterbrained at times, as the occasional late fee on my credit cards will attest to. I have no problems being honest about this, because I’ve got other compensating skills and qualities. I’ve got a strong stomach for cleaning up baby poop and puke off the rug, for example. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wonder what he’d think if I showed him my 4-color, 3-D Quicken charts and graphs, or let him hear how my landlord loves me because I practically run the duplex for him? I have to hand it to you guys on this ng. Over the last year, your commentary about the gender inequities in custody and divorce have been a real eye-opener for me. If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t have finally quit bitching and moaning and got myself a whopper raise and promotion to bring up my pay level to par. The irony of it is, now that I’m more than on my way to financial independence and self-sufficiency, I’m terrified and turned off by the idea of entering matrimony again and going back to sharing the finances. I have two fears: one, that I will get lazy and let him handle it all (I enjoy the "strategy" of investing/saving, but hate the daily details); or two, I will marry someone who thinks they can leach off of me…. I have no problem with sharing with those I love… but I am very nervous and paranoid about falling into the trap of a marriage held together by economics more than love. I think marriage encourages that. Being a single mom has made me so much more appreciative of the sacrifices my stbx made for our family. I now understand exactly how he felt when he came home after a 3-day business trip – the conflict between wanting to jump right in and spend time with his kids, but also needing time to unwind. And the worries he had, struggling to keep the household afloat on one income. It’s not an easy position to be in. jen

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Ross, "Sorry Girls"….oh please.I doubt someone with the negative attitudes and bitterness you have is any kind of a "real" catch to the intelligent women in the world.

Well… There are good women out there. I’ve met some. They’re married. They’re also trustworthy, capable, dependable and faithful. Many have true leadership qualities. If I knew such a single woman I’d marry her if she’d have me. I don’t. That some guys find themselves "exposed" while marriage shouldn’t surprise anyone, given that this is alt.support.divorce. I am divorced and I do feel safer living alone now. No heart pounding confrontations over little or nothing. No fear. Safe. Believe it or not, bad marriages can be a bad experience for men, too. We are not some rubber DUMBO toy you can abuse, toss about, deny security too and expect us to take it with John Wayne stoicism. Do you suppose your over inflated opinion of yourself might just explain your bad choices of females???

Why is it, that when a woman disagrees with someone, they go straight for an emotional hurt. Men just call names and yell. Women go for the hurt. So what do you plan to do when you are feeling "horny"??Just use a female for your own personal satisfaction????How incredibly mature and decent of you.

Wow. These questions could have been tied into so many other threads! There was the whole thread about nice guys trying to develop meaningful relationships being out done by these horny bastards who just want to "use a female". If women were of a different thought on this, and weren’t out to just "use a male", then I suspect nice guys wouldn’t be known for finishing last. And If you’re a nice gal, there’s always the occasional not- nice guy who comes long and hits on you, so she doesn’t have a problem…

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What are you doing with her if you hate her?

Do you really view every one of your friends as perfect? Or do you accept their faults with their good points? Thinking someone isn’t good marriage material is a long way from hating someone. I’ve noticed many women see people only in black and white, all good or all bad terms. We had a thread on this. Maybe you participated in it and told me I was full of it. Yet, here you are, seeing it as a all good or all bad issue. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Karen I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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Can’t resist – to whom are you referring Ross? Caroline "Scientists are the pinheads upon which angels dance." — Anonymous === – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Karen, Who hates her? When she isn’t indulging in this silly female victim nonsense then she is often a reasonable human being. I have noted in another email she is a highly paid professional earning more than most men. She has nothing really to complain about except what the feminists have thought up for her. No man in her position would complain – he’d be laughing. Unfortunately the ratbag feminists have convinced a lot of otherwise sensible women that occasional sex constitutes rape, not doing the job constitutes discrimination, and being told you are not doing the job then constitutes harassment. I could go on, but I’m sure you get the picture. There are a _lot_ worse around than her _ I’ve met ‘em. Many women, and I mean _lots_ of women, whine so much they are just sickening to listen to. Ross "Women? Lovely friends. Bloody awful wives." What are you doing with her if you hate her? Karen I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy. — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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I’ve been holding off on the sidelines wondering whether I should respond to this thread. Here goes…. I think Ross has made some valid points. I have to admit, I can see my old self in his criticisms. Yep, I’ve been guilty of feminist victim whining in my past life. The other day my stbx confided that one sure bad sign for him these days is if the woman can’t balance a checkbook or screw in a lightbulb. I just about fell off my chair – yes, I had been guilty as charged. But my oh my, what being a single mom will do to you! I wonder what he’d think if I showed him my 4-color, 3-D Quicken charts and graphs, or let him hear how my landlord loves me because I practically run the duplex for him? I have to hand it to you guys on this ng. Over the last year, your commentary about the gender inequities in custody and divorce have been a real eye-opener for me. If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t have finally quit bitching and moaning and got myself a whopper raise and promotion to bring up my pay level to par. The irony of it is, now that I’m more than on my way to financial independence and self-sufficiency, I’m terrified and turned off by the idea of entering matrimony again and going back to sharing the finances. I have two fears: one, that I will get lazy and let him handle it all (I enjoy the "strategy" of investing/saving, but hate the daily details); or two, I will marry someone who thinks they can leach off of me…. I have no problem with sharing with those I love… but I am very nervous and paranoid about falling into the trap of a marriage held together by economics more than love. I think marriage encourages that. Being a single mom has made me so much more appreciative of the sacrifices my stbx made for our family. I now understand exactly how he felt when he came home after a 3-day business trip – the conflict between wanting to jump right in and spend time with his kids, but also needing time to unwind. And the worries he had, struggling to keep the household afloat on one income. It’s not an easy position to be in. jen

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Dear Master Ross, Please detail what advantages marriage has for and the benefits it gives to women.

For example, http://mrsc.org/cgi-bin/om_cgi.exe?&infobase=rcw.nfo&softpage=Browse_… Specifically, 26.9, tho’ gender neutral, is written to transfer money from the spouse who has more wealth to the spouse who has less. This usually is from the husband to the wife, but there are many exceptions. You might also notice that the way the laws are written, women get primary residence 90% of the time, assessed a CS amount that they don’t really have to pay, and the man is most often made a wage slave. Nowadays both parties in most marriages work outside the home and deflating as it seems to be to your ego more and more women are earning equal or better pay.

Really? Where did you read this? I thought NOW was protesting that women still made less. Now you’re saying that is not true, that women make more? They have just as many bad qualities to put up from their partner and have just as many chances to get the financial srewdriver when there is a split up! So what IS the females’ great gain from marriage?

SOMEONE wants the stupid laws. It’s not me. It seems overnight all women just got rich and now make more than their husbands. Yeah, right. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Join the 20th century! Look Custody Evaluation Problems?

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I love it Kathryn. I won’t be dueling you anytime soon. 8=) ROTFLMAO — Speed

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um…. yea…. that’s it…. LOL Sorry, was in a silly mood this morn. Felt good to be up and just had to share.

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My wife refused to work. For years. After working two jobs myself, then coming home to clean, and doing all the chores on the weekends because she ‘needed a break too’ (like I got one), I got tired of it, and decided to go to school to get a better paying more satisfying job. While we were slowly going even broker, buying food on the credit card and the like, she still wouldn’t work, and then bought a car on the credit card. When we had a fight about it, and I told her she had to get a job (again) she told me that if she had a job, then what would she need me for. Perhaps some women don’t come out too good being married, but it seems to me that if they haven’t they just didn’t find the right doormat. My wife got a job, a wealthy beau, and left 6 weeks ago.

Dear Master Ross, Please detail what advantages marriage has for and the benefits it gives to women. Nowadays both parties in most marriages work outside the home and deflating as it seems to be to your ego more and more women are earning equal or better pay. They have just as many bad qualities to put up from their partner and have just as many chances to get the financial srewdriver when there is a split up! So what IS the females’ great gain from marriage? Join the 20th century! Look Custody Evaluation Problems?

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* So what do you plan to do when you are feeling "horny"??Just use a * female for your own personal satisfaction????How incredibly mature and * decent of you. You know, but all other alternatives that he has are much worse.

There is such a thing as abstinence, you know. It isn’t necessary to indulge *every* feeling… charlie

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Well, you probably don’t want to know this, but a man con do amazing things with a hand, some crisco, and some saran wrap….

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Well, you probably don’t want to know this, but a man con do amazing things with a hand, some crisco, and some saran wrap…. Uh, fry chicken and put away the leftovers?

Umm… Kathryn, if you fry chicken in your *hand*, then I have a load of questions for you….<g Andre — " The noblest achievement of the imagination is to make time run some other way, and terminate in beauty and forgivness " David Gelernter, " 1939 "

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Tyler, Right on. When my last relationship failed I was right out there after a month had passed. Amazing what no settlement, no house sale, no missing the kids does, isn’t it? It really is "no fault"! In fact I’m really into _true_ "no fault" relationships now. They live in their house, and I live in mine. Everything 50:50 and when it sours, well, just stop turning that ignition key. No emotional and other blackmail and other similar girlie games. It’s cool. Marriage for the masses is a societal construct which is only 150 years old. I think it has proven to be a bad idea because the women are just ripping the system off. I don’t believe in being part of a bad idea, or in being ripped off. And like you I’m just loving my life post-marriage. No future commitment for me – not ever, and not with anyone! Am I a sucker? Sorry girls. Ross "Women? Lovely friends. Bloody awful wives." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are right on about the freedom and independence and ultimately safety. I think the safety comes from not having anything to lose in terms of a relationship. When something starts and fizzles now it doesn’t phase me a bit. If I’m back where I started within a couple of weeks of seeing someone, I know that’s not a bad place to be. You can become a slave to your possessions as well as a slave to your relationships. I don’t look forward to becoming dependent again and have hopefully broken forever the circle of having someone to complain to and to bitch about the world to. Now when life shits on me I go out and change things and shit right back on it, rather than come home to the false security and support of a wife. Freedom is power in this life and I can so easily see where I have an advantage over those guys who are all settled down and pissing their time away with hobbies and obligations. Screw it, I could quit my job tomorrow and move to South America if I wanted to. I’m free to live life. Another thing I’ve noticed is that married women are drawn to me because of the free and carefree existence I represent for them. I think that most just want some adventure outside of their marriages, but really wouldn’t have the guts to give up their safety net for a life of freedom. But of course they’re ready and willing to risk it all to party with someone who is wild and rebellious to them. After what I’ve seen as a single guy I’d have a hard time trusting most people again unless I felt the relationship was very very strong. Most people are posers who are too scared to actually live the life of fredom which they really desire. I was forced there, but I love it now, and am greatful to my ex for helping me get there and for helping me realize that being tied down to someone who’s so lost and unfulfilled isn’t where it’s at at all. Tyler

– Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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Well, you probably don’t want to know this, but a man con do amazing things with a hand, some crisco, and some saran wrap….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So what do you plan to do when you are feeling "horny"??Just use a female for your own personal satisfaction????How incredibly mature and decent of you. -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Custody Evaluation Problems?

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Well Ross, We don’t all walk around with one eye shut….you must be going in circles as you are a walking contradiction….. Every single word you have written is self-claiming victimhood (as you put it)…Is it that some of us are paid more then you? Is it that you cannot cope with intelligent life form, maybe we expect more then you could ever perform, or are you really afraid if we fix that fridge, and move on to other repairs jobs (that never get done) and prove you to be totally incompetent. So make up your mind are you being victimized or are you just trying to victimize others….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Glossette, Brave words on your part, but probably not backed by any actual performance. I doubt the average, or even a superior woman, has any idea of their total wetness, uselessness, and their "won’t cope" attitudes. It’s all in the mind and most women beat themselves before they start. The times I’ve seen women point-blank refuse to attempt things which were easily within their ability. Any male who did this would be the butt of heavy sarcasm, but we are unduly kind to the women I’m afraid. Political correctness means that nothing now gets said when it ought to be said as well. Most of the women I associate with, including my present partner, are highly paid and allegedly competent professionals but they have eaten the feminist "fraudulent-facts-file" bait hook line and sinker and are seriously into victimhood despite the fact they are doing better than 80-90% of males and have absolutely no grounds for claiming victimhood. No male in their position would seriously think of claiming such victimhood. I’ll believe in female equality when I come home to hear the wife say, "The fridge broke dear, so I pulled it apart, found out the motor start relay was burnt out, went and got a new one and the fridge is like a new one again. No problem." It’s just so improbable I’ll die waiting for this little scene to occur. Yet I know a lot of men who would just fix their fridge rather than pay someone. So, spare me the brave words and the endless female silly-talk and whining. Get with the action O useless ones. In the meantime I’m not sharing a house, let alone a bedroom with a woman. I’ve discovered the truth of female "performance" a long time ago. You just don’t like hearing it. Ross "No woman, no cry" Please don’t group me with you ex or so called female friend.(you obviously have not chosen well in this area)..Please don’t assume you know the female being or even the male being for that matter. We all are human beings and have bad and good in us…it is a case of what you bring out in a person as to what you get from them… I would never condemn you, not knowing anything about you, to be cut from the same cloth as my ex just because you are male… Your comments really turn my crank…. All, I was reading something Steve LaJoi wrote about feeling SAFE in his now unmarried status. I feel the same. Nothing and no one can just ruin me emotionally and financially on a whim now. I go home I close the door and I feel _safe_. No one is holding a knife to my throat and bullying me to get her own way over some issue the women have agreed amongst themselves is important enough to create male misery for. In fact, I no longer have _any_ association of happiness with a co-resident female – quite the reverse. I have about 3 hours of housework a week (except cooking which is a pleasure because I’m making what _I_ like) to do to make me comfortable each week. Hell, it’s possible with a ratbag feminist to spend 3 hours a week just _talking_ about doing the housework without actually getting anything done! I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy. — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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All, I was reading something Steve LaJoi wrote about feeling SAFE in his now unmarried status. I feel the same. Nothing and no one can just ruin me emotionally and financially on a whim now. I go home I close the door and I feel _safe_. No one is holding a knife to my throat and bullying me to get her own way over some issue the women have agreed amongst themselves is important enough to create male misery for. In fact, I no longer have _any_ association of happiness with a co-resident female – quite the reverse. I have about 3 hours of housework a week (except cooking which is a pleasure because I’m making what _I_ like) to do to make me comfortable each week. Hell, it’s possible with a ratbag feminist to spend 3 hours a week just _talking_ about doing the housework without actually getting anything done! I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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Please don’t group me with you ex or so called female friend.(you obviously have not chosen well in this area)..Please don’t assume you know the female being or even the male being for that matter. We all are human beings and have bad and good in us…it is a case of what you bring out in a person as to what you get from them… I would never condemn you, not knowing anything about you, to be cut from the same cloth as my ex just because you are male… Your comments really turn my crank…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All, I was reading something Steve LaJoi wrote about feeling SAFE in his now unmarried status. I feel the same. Nothing and no one can just ruin me emotionally and financially on a whim now. I go home I close the door and I feel _safe_. No one is holding a knife to my throat and bullying me to get her own way over some issue the women have agreed amongst themselves is important enough to create male misery for. In fact, I no longer have _any_ association of happiness with a co-resident female – quite the reverse. I have about 3 hours of housework a week (except cooking which is a pleasure because I’m making what _I_ like) to do to make me comfortable each week. Hell, it’s possible with a ratbag feminist to spend 3 hours a week just _talking_ about doing the housework without actually getting anything done! I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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You are right on about the freedom and independence and ultimately safety. I think the safety comes from not having anything to lose in terms of a relationship. When something starts and fizzles now it doesn’t phase me a bit. If I’m back where I started within a couple of weeks of seeing someone, I know that’s not a bad place to be. You can become a slave to your possessions as well as a slave to your relationships. I don’t look forward to becoming dependent again and have hopefully broken forever the circle of having someone to complain to and to bitch about the world to. Now when life shits on me I go out and change things and shit right back on it, rather than come home to the false security and support of a wife. Freedom is power in this life and I can so easily see where I have an advantage over those guys who are all settled down and pissing their time away with hobbies and obligations. Screw it, I could quit my job tomorrow and move to South America if I wanted to. I’m free to live life. Another thing I’ve noticed is that married women are drawn to me because of the free and carefree existence I represent for them. I think that most just want some adventure outside of their marriages, but really wouldn’t have the guts to give up their safety net for a life of freedom. But of course they’re ready and willing to risk it all to party with someone who is wild and rebellious to them. After what I’ve seen as a single guy I’d have a hard time trusting most people again unless I felt the relationship was very very strong. Most people are posers who are too scared to actually live the life of fredom which they really desire. I was forced there, but I love it now, and am greatful to my ex for helping me get there and for helping me realize that being tied down to someone who’s so lost and unfulfilled isn’t where it’s at at all. Tyler

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What are you doing with her if you hate her? Karen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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Ross,
"Sorry Girls"….oh please.I doubt someone with the negative attitudes and bitterness you have is any kind of a "real" catch to the intelligent women in the world.
Do you suppose your over inflated opinion of yourself might just explain your bad choices of females???
So what do you plan to do when you are feeling "horny"??Just use a female for your own personal satisfaction????How incredibly mature and decent of you. -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Hello Glossette, Brave words on your part, but probably not backed by any actual performance. I doubt the average, or even a superior woman, has any idea of their total wetness, uselessness, and their "won’t cope" attitudes. It’s all in the mind and most women beat themselves before they start. The times I’ve seen women point-blank refuse to attempt things which were easily within their ability. Any male who did this would be the butt of heavy sarcasm, but we are unduly kind to the women I’m afraid. Political correctness means that nothing now gets said when it ought to be said as well. Most of the women I associate with, including my present partner, are highly paid and allegedly competent professionals but they have eaten the feminist "fraudulent-facts-file" bait hook line and sinker and are seriously into victimhood despite the fact they are doing better than 80-90% of males and have absolutely no grounds for claiming victimhood. No male in their position would seriously think of claiming such victimhood. I’ll believe in female equality when I come home to hear the wife say, "The fridge broke dear, so I pulled it apart, found out the motor start relay was burnt out, went and got a new one and the fridge is like a new one again. No problem." It’s just so improbable I’ll die waiting for this little scene to occur. Yet I know a lot of men who would just fix their fridge rather than pay someone. So, spare me the brave words and the endless female silly-talk and whining. Get with the action O useless ones. In the meantime I’m not sharing a house, let alone a bedroom with a woman. I’ve discovered the truth of female "performance" a long time ago. You just don’t like hearing it. Ross "No woman, no cry" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Please don’t group me with you ex or so called female friend.(you obviously have not chosen well in this area)..Please don’t assume you know the female being or even the male being for that matter. We all are human beings and have bad and good in us…it is a case of what you bring out in a person as to what you get from them… I would never condemn you, not knowing anything about you, to be cut from the same cloth as my ex just because you are male… Your comments really turn my crank…. All, I was reading something Steve LaJoi wrote about feeling SAFE in his now unmarried status. I feel the same. Nothing and no one can just ruin me emotionally and financially on a whim now. I go home I close the door and I feel _safe_. No one is holding a knife to my throat and bullying me to get her own way over some issue the women have agreed amongst themselves is important enough to create male misery for. In fact, I no longer have _any_ association of happiness with a co-resident female – quite the reverse. I have about 3 hours of housework a week (except cooking which is a pleasure because I’m making what _I_ like) to do to make me comfortable each week. Hell, it’s possible with a ratbag feminist to spend 3 hours a week just _talking_ about doing the housework without actually getting anything done! I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

– Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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Karen, Who hates her? When she isn’t indulging in this silly female victim nonsense then she is often a reasonable human being. I have noted in another email she is a highly paid professional earning more than most men. She has nothing really to complain about except what the feminists have thought up for her. No man in her position would complain – he’d be laughing. Unfortunately the ratbag feminists have convinced a lot of otherwise sensible women that occasional sex constitutes rape, not doing the job constitutes discrimination, and being told you are not doing the job then constitutes harassment. I could go on, but I’m sure you get the picture. There are a _lot_ worse around than her _ I’ve met ‘em. Many women, and I mean _lots_ of women, whine so much they are just sickening to listen to. Ross "Women? Lovely friends. Bloody awful wives." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are you doing with her if you hate her? Karen I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

– Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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Karen, Who hates her? When she isn’t indulging in this silly female victim nonsense then she is often a reasonable human being. I have noted in another email she is a highly paid professional earning more than most men. She has nothing really to complain about except what the feminists have thought up for her. No man in her position would complain – he’d be laughing. Unfortunately the ratbag feminists have convinced a lot of otherwise sensible women that occasional sex constitutes rape, not doing the job constitutes discrimination, and being told you are not doing the job then constitutes harassment. I could go on, but I’m sure you get the picture. There are a _lot_ worse around than her _ I’ve met ‘em. Many women, and I mean _lots_ of women, whine so much they are just sickening to listen to. Ross Women? Lovely friends. Bloody awful wives." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are you doing with her if you hate her? Karen I have a long-term (4 years) lady friend partner who reminds me constantly of the misery of the co-resident woman. Despite the fact I have configured things so she does virtually _nothing_ for me, she still finds things to complain about and discuss endlessly. And she also tells me all the ways the world discriminates against her, which btw is mostly all in her mind or caused by her own behaviour. I love this victim thinking – not! Anyway it’s constant enough that the words "will you marry me" will never pass my lips – and I sincerely thank her for preventing any foolishness on my part. Women complaining of male lack of commitment might look to their own behaviour. Speaking as a male then marriage holds absolutely no advantages for me and gives me no benefits – unlike the women. Guess what? I’ve figured out which way is up!:) I also thank the women of this newsgroup and also alt.child.support for reminding me constantly how charming women are at the core. Yup, they are the caring sharing gender alright. They care if you share — Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

– Ross "Women? Wonderful friends. Bloody awful wives." Before you buy.

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