Why do female swimmers have fat arms?

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I have to say as an ex-collegiate swimmer (in the iceage), I had much bigger arms and neck when I swam competitive than I do now. My shirt size has decreased considerably. If he is commenting on someone like Jenny Thompson, those "fat" arms are pure muscle. She is close to breaking the longest standing world record in the books…..the 100 M fly. She posted a :58.0 in the National championship. Wow!!!!

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Napoleon the Imbecilic Say NAP… why do men have big bulges between their legs? why do they? you seem to think that it’s fat. That is your perception. It’s what a Woman looks like. that is her DNA at work. it’s how the body is formed. it’s her. FAT? well, gee. breasts are skin and fat and stuff. So why don’t you complaing about breasts? on a woman. Oh no…men with fat arms. Men with breats? and with a bulg between legs up there…somewhere. that was "bulge"…. bill conduit guru to the living

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Many news readers have a function that allows you to "ignore" posts based on a set of rules. For example, you can exclude any posts where the from address Good email clients have the same capability to filter out incoming mail based on a set of rules. Did I answer your question? Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -what is a kill file? When he realizes that he is in everyone’s kill file. Not before. Dave Napoleon Bonaparte schrieb: I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Napoleon the Great When do you stop this sort of mails?

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I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Maybe if you’d stop asking stupid troll questions and crossposting to unrelated newsgroups, somebody might take you seriously.

Wow, yeah, i’m a female swimmer…and i haven’t noticed any fat arms… Kasia "Rearview mirrors are merely goggle hooks" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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The original poster is under the incorrect notion that big=fat. Sometimes that is true, sometimes not. Sprint runners tend to have bigger legs than the general population and bigger legs than distance runners or basketball players. This is due to increased muscularity which is a by-product of the training and competition associated with their sport. Participants in javelin throw, shot put, crew, weightlifting, swimming, archery, etc. each tend to develop a characteristic "body shape" because of the way that particular sport requires great strength in certain muscle group(s). Do you say that sprinters have "fat legs"? Do you say that Mark McGuire(sp?) has "fat arms"? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Oh boy, here we go-I have no idea how big my arms are exactly, as far as inches around, but I DO know they sure as heck aren’t FAT-I have been swimming since ‘96 religiously, meaning I average about 5000 meters daily (sometimes more, sometimes less) and am a breaststroker, distance freestyle, and distance IMer. My body fat in general ranges from 12 to 15 % of my 135 pounds, and I certainly do fall into the "big arm" category. I think that generally swimmers simply have nicely defined biceps and triceps and I consider this a benefit, and I know I don’t want to be looked at as having FAT arms, just powerful ones. Wish I were an exercise physiologist and could explain exactly WHY this is the case with some of us, but on the other hand, I have met and know an awful lot of phenomenally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The original poster is under the incorrect notion that big=fat. Sometimes that is true, sometimes not. Sprint runners tend to have bigger legs than the general population and bigger legs than distance runners or basketball players. This is due to increased muscularity which is a by-product of the training and competition associated with their sport. Participants in javelin throw, shot put, crew, weightlifting, swimming, archery, etc. each tend to develop a characteristic "body shape" because of the way that particular sport requires great strength in certain muscle group(s). Do you say that sprinters have "fat legs"? Do you say that Mark McGuire(sp?) has "fat arms"? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I can’t even stand to look at the title of this idiotic thread, anymore. Folks for some history, it was started by some doofus named Napoleon who posted about a half-dozen other mysoginistic (sp?) strings on various athletic newsgroups in order, apparently, to offend women and to try and provoke an argument. He was a classic troll. Whomever this guy is, he obviously has something against women… probably the fact that no woman would ever have anything to do with such a dork. Please let this string die. Rec.sports.triathlon is too dignified, and is directed to far too small and tight knit a community, to be interested in such a subject. It is annoying for this title to keep re-appearing. Female triathletes and female athletes in general are beautiful beyond description, not least of all because of their physical appearance. There’s just no need to keep defending yourselves against such an innane post. Although I frequent rec.sport.swimming, I’ll make a final plea that any responses to this post do NOT get cross-posted to rec.sports.triathlon, where, I can assure you, nobody could possibly care less about further engagement in such a silly subject. One would hope that rec.sport.swimming, alt.feminism, and soc.men would be equally eager to let this string disappear into alphabet heaven.

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I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. I have to say that it is nice to see at least someone has given a smart intelligent answer. Some people seem to think that they are above everyone else. I would also have to agree that SOME of the better female swimmers seem to have bigger arms. Could this also be the result of bigger shoulders giving the illusion of bigger arms?

Maybe some of them have BIGGER arms, not fatter arms. I think some people have the perception that a muscular woman is fat, whereas a muscular male is perfectly acceptable. The pull is the dominant motive force in swimming, so it only stands to reason that swimmers will have stronger upper bodies, just like runners have strong legs. Kirk

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If you are using Netscape, go to Edit, then Message Filters and take a look Anna

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Hey Ron, it can’t be a myth. Just take a look at "IronMan Athelete" JUDY MOLNER. She has rather chubby arms and she swims pretty …… ahhhh …… Yes then it must be true. Some people with fat arms can’t swim.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – this is a myth. Look at popov and tell me where that buoyant subcutaneous fat is. there’d be no adaptive reason for a competitive swimmer (whose environment is almost exclusively indoor, temperature-controlled pools) to develop fat layers for warmth, either. If this myth were fact, than the world’s top swimmers would be rotund barrel-like people, rather than the lean, muscular individuals that actually are on top of the sport. — TriathRon _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / (ASCII art blatantly plagiarized from TriBaby’s sig . . . )

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – expounded: <I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive <swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but <I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could <help me find the answer. Competitive swimmers often have more subcutaneous fat than other athletes because fat is more bouyant than other tissues, provides streamlining and helps conserve body heat in cold water – like a seal vs a greyhound.

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One exception doesn’t prove anything – look at groups of swimmers vs boxers, gymnasts or track runners and they are *quite noticeably* chubbier. It’s obvious.

you said ‘competitive’ swimmers – I took that to mean pro or world-class athletes. Put a group of them next to a group of boxers and I doubt very seriously that the swimmers would be ‘quite noticably’ chubbier. As far as the single example not proving anything, here’s a partial list of the ‘96 US Olympic swimming team, their heights and weights. Ryan Berube – 6′0", 170lbs Brad Bridgewater – 6′3", 190lbs Carlton Bruner – 5′9", `130lbs Greg Burgess – 6′4", 205lbs Ray Carey – 5′10", 160lbs Josh Davis – 6′2", 185lbs Amanda Beard – 5′3", 92lbs Brooke Bennett – 5,3", 109lbs Beth Botsford – 5′5", 108lbs Janet Evans – 5′6", 120lbs Catherine Fox – 5′5", 130lbs Whitney Hedgepeth – 5′10", 140lbs . . . and so on. I think these measurements hardly indicate ‘chubby’ individuals. I didn’t say they ‘developed it’, either; the tendancy is already there, providing a slight increase in bouyancy, and a slight increase in temp comfort (makes it somewhat more likely that they’ll enjoy swimming – there’s no ‘need’ at all). < <If this myth were fact, than the world’s top swimmers would be rotund <barrel-like people, rather than the lean, muscular individuals that actually are <on top of the sport. Right, just like seals are spherical. Thanks for the superficial response.

Looks like you’ve got plenty of your own, but you’re welcome.

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I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Napoleon the Great Webmaster of http://angelfire.com/ut/america/ — "By…attempting to make one sex the equal to the other, both are degraded…nothing could ever result but weak men and disorderly women."–Alexis de Tocqueville, 1840 Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Does your mother know you’re sneaking into the den to use the computer at night after she’s gone to bed? David "So many social engagements…so little time." – Raising Arizona http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/8374

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Does your mother know you’re sneaking into the den to use the computer at night after she’s gone to bed?

he probably wakes her when he rolls out of their bed. todd sandiego

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Napoleon Bonaparte schrieb: I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Napoleon the Great

When do you stop this sort of mails?

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when people stop feeding the troll, he’ll wither up and die — TriathRon _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / (ASCII art blatantly plagiarized from TriBaby’s sig . . . ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Napoleon Bonaparte schrieb: I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Napoleon the Great When do you stop this sort of mails?

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I have to say that it is nice to see at least someone has given a smart intelligent answer. Some people seem to think that they are above everyone else. I would also have to agree that SOME of the better female swimmers seem to have bigger arms. Could this also be the result of bigger shoulders giving the illusion of bigger arms? Remeber that I don’t in any way think I know all the answers but do like to contribute to the knowledge of all. ken

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Maybe if you’d stop asking stupid troll questions and crossposting to unrelated newsgroups, somebody might take you seriously. Jeff Weiss

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Look at female speedskaters. Big legs. Grant – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Napoleon the Great Webmaster of http://angelfire.com/ut/america/ — "By…attempting to make one sex the equal to the other, both are degraded…nothing could ever result but weak men and disorderly women."–Alexis de Tocqueville, 1840 Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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When he realizes that he is in everyone’s kill file. Not before. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Napoleon Bonaparte schrieb: I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Napoleon the Great When do you stop this sort of mails?

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Silence will be your answer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what is a kill file? When he realizes that he is in everyone’s kill file. Not before.

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what is a kill file?

Some newsgroup gateways (programs) come equipped with a set of filters designed to keep trolls’ messages off the list. If you do have them, place the author’s e-mail address into the filter and you won’t see his posts again. Iron Pete "makes life here a lot easier" Priolo

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I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. I have to say that it is nice to see at least someone has given a smart intelligent answer. Some people seem to think that they are above everyone else. I would also have to agree that SOME of the better female swimmers seem to have bigger arms. Could this also be the result of bigger shoulders giving the illusion of bigger arms? Remeber that I don’t in any way think I know all the answers but do like to contribute to the knowledge of all.

Maybe its because they are lesbian. — My website: http://members.tripod.com/LanTheBoy Email: Anti-chaos. ICQ://26027485 |)Sigh<(|

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this is a myth. Look at popov and tell me where that buoyant subcutaneous fat is. there’d be no adaptive reason for a competitive swimmer (whose environment is almost exclusively indoor, temperature-controlled pools) to develop fat layers for warmth, either. If this myth were fact, than the world’s top swimmers would be rotund barrel-like people, rather than the lean, muscular individuals that actually are on top of the sport. — TriathRon _ – o ’ – __o – </_ ` ‘ – < – __/ /o_ – (()) (()) - / (ASCII art blatantly plagiarized from TriBaby’s sig . . . ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – expounded: <I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive <swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but <I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could <help me find the answer. Competitive swimmers often have more subcutaneous fat than other athletes because fat is more bouyant than other tissues, provides streamlining and helps conserve body heat in cold water – like a seal vs a greyhound.

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what is a kill file? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When he realizes that he is in everyone’s kill file. Not before. Dave Napoleon Bonaparte schrieb: I was just wondering if someone could tell me why female competitive swimmers always have fat arms. I don’t know a lot about the sport, but I’ve always noticed this. I thought maybe someone on this ng could help me find the answer. Napoleon the Great When do you stop this sort of mails?

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