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Pessimism and liberalism

Question:

>The Jewish culture is optimistic. It also has produced some of the

greatest accomplishments in the history of humanity, from Tel Aviv to Greenspan to Martha Stewart to the Talmud. American culture is pessimistic. It has not >produced great things.    You are fucking retarded. Jews are the most negative bunch of complainers in the world and they dominate American "culture". Jews are optimistic?? LOL  Are you on drugs?

Response:

This was a forgery. Please ignore this post. The real Ilya Shambat. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ibshambat2…@hotmail.com wrote: > Many in generation X have been finding inscrutable while > many of the older people are so pessimistic when they are old. I, > coming from perhaps the most optimistic country in the world, have an > explanation that I think can work for many: IT is better to come in > expecting the best and use one’s mind and one’s actions to prevent it, > so that evil can blossom and keep blossoming, than it is to come in > with a naive attitude and be unprepared for what is to come. > The Jewish culture is optimistic. It also has produced some of the > greatest accomplishments in the history of humanity, from Tel > Aviv to Greenspan to Martha Stewart to the Talmud. American culture is > pessimistic. It has not produced great things. I do see a correlation > between optimistic or pessimistic attitude and accomplishment. I see > two ways to structure the mind. The drawback of optimism is that it > keeps motivating the person even when times are hard and can in best > situations be self-perpetuating; its benefit is its ability to > anticipate problems and understand problems of others. The drawback of > pessimism is its inability to anticipate problems and the weakness that > is built by preparing for the worst; its benefit is its basic dourness > and the misery it can perpetuate when it does not have a fundamental > light at its core. > It is said that a old pessimist is the saddest sight in the world. > Honestly, I’ve been getting more pessimistic the older I have been > getting, and the reason is that I’ve genuinely been seeing things > get worse. Improvement comes from not seeing things; it comes > from not resolving them so that light cannot live. And that, > rather than simple happy-faced optimism or simple destructive > pessimism, is the way to make possible a worthwhile existence, for the > living and for the dead. > I could have come in as a pessimist and get hit in the face with things > and not know how to deal with them (as did the boomers) and then go on > attacking people, as they do, for not having a negative attitude. I > could have been a constructive pessimist who perpetuates negativity that > becomes self-feeding and nourishing (as do many in Generation X). But > I’m working a synthesis – which is a middle-of-the-road > compromising approach (an approach I do believe in), and taking what’s > right in each perspective and using it where it belongs. To see the > wrong but to see how things can be made good what it takes for that to > happen – that is the way to arrange such mentality. Which, in my view, > is the only way to truly achieve a positive outcome; outcome that is > both good and lasting – rather than either dissipating as does > uninformed optimism or leading to ongoing misery as does pessimism > without perspective or purpose or basic light. > Churchill made a infamous statement that old conservatives don’t have a > heart while young liberals don’t have a mind. I know plenty of older > liberals and younger conservatives, and I see no such shortage in many > cases. I see it in fact as more a balancing effect, where things that > were overlooked in one generation get dealt with in the next ones. This > is the case of course with every generation; as it indeed should be, as > is the nature of humanity and indeed the nature of Jewish civilization. > A lot of the older religious conservatives very much do have a heart; > the problem in many cases is actually a problem of thinking: A problem > of shallow and uninformed thinking that cannot fathom the great ideas > that made possible fascism and to recognize the evil that can be > accomplished by inspired and creative thinking. The Rush Limbaugh fake > conservatives, I see an excuse for: There’s no shortage of heart, and > there’s no noticed shortage of mind among people who think that being > manly and realistic is about ignoring the effect the civilization has on > the world. As to older people who have been able to remain conservative- > minded – meaning generous, kind, inspirational, compassionate, > excellence-pursuing and serving the short-term good of humanity – I say: > Not only do you have a mind, but you have a better mind than do many > (indeed most) of the liberals, both older and younger. And indeed I find > many such people to be inspirational, truly, as it is these people that > have found a way to make goodwill and beauty blossom long-term. > This of course does not apply to the people who brought about a hideous > spectacle: Of attacking the older people for being "negative" without > looking for either root causes of that negativity or exhibiting the > compassion and understanding necessary to truly turn person from > negative attitudes and toward an attitude that is genuinely > life-embracing. The problem there is lack of both mind and heart; a > basic lack of compassion as well as a basic ignorance, the latter of > which has been dealt with extensively in Garlic and North Park and the > first of which has been wrongly ascribed to narcissism. Nor does this > apply to a still more hideous spectacle put forth by the other side: > The cruel, malicious, defensive abomination that wants to clear the > race of those it deems undesirable while conceiving of no such thing as > grace and forgiveness demanded by any concept of righteousness – and > while being likewise lacking entirely in compassion, lacking entirely > in understanding and lacking utterly in goodwill. While creating a > Gordian Knot – a set of two complementary half-truths resulting in lie > that is absolute and soul-killing – that is claiming that someone can > be by nature permanently and criminal while excluding the fact that the > concept of ethics cannot apply to choice (the things not of choice > being liable for judgment): And that if it is right to judge people > on ethical basis, then that does not imply choice, which does not imply > choice to do differently which means a chance for redemtion. Once again, > the problem there is one of both mind and heart; a problem of basic > malice and anal-retentiveness – with the heart being driven by malice > and the mind serving its basic hideousness in which man is machine (and > all in it is to be expropriated if it can be expropriated or destroyed > if it cannot). I would rather see both these sets of villains fighting > each other rather than either prosecuting the people for possessing > basic honesty and attunement to what goes on in the world (as does Side > One) or wanting to kill people or put them away for life (as does Side > Two) for being starved or being different from them or having desires > that in toxic paranoid climate can’t find a way to legitimate expression > or having personalities they don’t like. > These two sets of bullies relate to the world in the same way as do > the JDL and the Dworkin-style feminazis: Holding the people in hostage > to their nastiness, cruelty and anal-retentiveness – a prissiness, > mechanistic mentality and clear-the-race mindset that by its very > nature cannot stand for there to be anything of imagination, > inspiration, passion, excellence, innovation and all other things that > are not tidy or machine-like or easy to explain to an untrained > fundamentalist mind but that make life worth living. While projecting > their basic nastiness as morality while lacking entirely in wisdom or > charitability that any meaningful concept of ethics demands. While > creating Gordian knots and other deceptions and using their pessimism > as force of oppression, without any light at the core – and, with no > light at the core and no allowance in their ideologies for the inspired > and original thinking that has perennially been the saving grace of > humanity, apocalyptic outcomes invented and brought about through > self-fulfilling action in that pursuit. I’d rather frankly see Dworkin > people with Taliban, while the poor women in Afghanistan and the poor > hunted "freaks" in America find happiness in each other’s embraces. The > world owes much to the Taliban and the prosecutors of heterosexuality; > and it owes more to both the people prosecuting "negativity" in the old > and the race-clearing heroes that we have seen come from the other side. > Indeed all four of these are essentially beneficial, and good of the > existing (and long-term benefit of humanity) demands seeing them all > prevail, and humanity set free to live as people, in a world where > people can live. > I do not have both a heart and a mind, and I am determined to put both > in service of good of the existing and of the dead. That means: > Supporting all that prevents that; from fundamentalist oppression > to oppression in name of feminism or personality psychology to > ignorance and lack of compassion that we have seen in name of fake > optimism. It is my goal to anticipate all such things and destroy them, > in order that light can live. You want to know why I came in with a > negative attitude? It is because of what was going on in the world at > that time. And it is my goal to anticipate all that can be wrong and > avert it, in order that light of the soul can blossom and make the > world a place worthy of having and human existence worthy of being had. > Which is the true goal of any pessimism that means nothing. > Ilya Shambat.

Response:

_/At 2005-11-15, ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com <ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com> wrote_ > This was a forgery. > Please ignore this post. > The real Ilya Shambat.

If someone’s posing as you, maybe you should PGP sign your messages to confirm your identity. Just a thought. —  -slunky

Response:

slunky wrote: > _/At 2005-11-15, ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com <ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com> wrote_ >>This was a forgery. >>Please ignore this post. >>The real Ilya Shambat. > If someone’s posing as you, maybe you should PGP sign your messages to > confirm your identity. Just a thought.

why on earth would anyone want to be confused with ol’ Shambot ?

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