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the Danimal on 20/08/2005 7:32 pm wrote: > The most enjoyable part of a relationship, by far, is the first > three months. If you could arrange to have four new girlfriends > each year, with no downtime, that would be pretty cool.
Alternative viewpoint: The most *unenjoyable* part of a relationship, by far, is the first few months where everyone is as nervous as hell and can’t relax for fear of farting. If I had to start again in a new relationship every four months I’d be a nervous wreck with galloping indigestion. > Anyway, of course you are correct that the beginning of a > relationship is BY FAR the best part.
That’s not been my experience. > sex robots will be popular
I agree with you there. Personally I’d just like my Adobe Acrobat to stop making my system crash… that would be a first step in the general direction of making computers "popular" [loved]. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What happens as two people get to know each other better is their > mutual attraction tends to weaken. Sex is not about being attracted > to a PERSON, it’s about being attracted to a FANTASY. The more you > get to know someone, the more you become painfully aware of all > sorts of little details about the PERSON they are. And PERSONs are > not SEXY. That doesn’t make a PERSON bad, it’s just that after a > while all those little nonsexy things start adding up, and the > fantasy weakens, and so does the desire for affection and sex. > Note the self-reinforcing nature of this trend. As soon as one > partner begins pulling back, even before he or she is aware of > it, the other partner notices the slightly worse treatment > immediately. Whereupon that partner retaliates by subtly showing > less affection too. Or worse, DEMANDING affection. > The other problem is running out of things to say. When you first > meet a new partner, he/she hasn’t heard all your lines yet. So > you can say all sorts of romantic things—the same things you told > your previous N partners—and they sound new, fresh, and convincing. > But after a while, the effect wears off. It’s like when white > explorers pushed into the jungles—they could amaze the natives > they met once, or twice, but after a while the natives got used > to the white explorers and learned how to shoot rifles too. > After the novelty wore off, the white explorers weren’t so > impressive as they were at first. > There is a reason why entertainers, even the most talented ones, > have to keep playing to new audiences. Even the world’s most > entertaining people get boring FAST. A given person only has so > much material.
Are you in a relationship? What’s the longest relationship you’ve been in? Do you have some kind of attention deficient personality? > if the nice guy learns how to give professional-quality > massages, he may find his girlfriend open to the idea of taking > them early and often. Now, maybe massaging his girlfriend isn’t > the nice guy’s idea of affection, but at least he gets to put his > hands all over her body.
Is that really all it takes to be in a relationship with a man? [nice or otherwise?] Gaining access to a woman’s body is the sole purpose of effort? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Part of the quality of a professional massage is that it comes with > no demand for a quid pro quo (other than paying money for it, of > course). > If a woman begins withdrawing her physical affection from a man, > that probably means he is pressuring her too much for sex, and > the sex he provides isn’t satisfying enough to her when they do > have it. > To avoid this sad fate, the competent man must learn two things: > 1. How to demonstrate physical affection to a woman without > making her feel pressured to have sex. A woman must feel she > can completely disregard a man’s needs and he’s cool with it. > Only then can she warm to the idea of addressing his needs. > Would you want to give a gift to someone who DEMANDED it? > Maybe not. > 2. When the woman does get in the mood for sex, the man must > deliver the goods. I.e., the woman must have as many orgasms as > she needs. A woman might still be able to enjoy sex without > orgasms, just as an automobile might still be able to roll with > two flat tires. But why take chances? After the initial infatuation > stage wears off, a woman’s going to start evaluating your performance.
What are you saying? That all relationships begin and end with sexual performance? Are you male or female? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> as I’ve said in other treads the one who cools down first usually hurts >> the other . > The thing you’re missing here is that the early infatuation phase > is when two people treat each other BETTER than they deserve. Once > they find out more about the person they selected, they downgrade > their treatment to what the person actually deserves. > Both partners do this. It’s just a lot easier to notice when > your partner does it to you. > For example, when a nice guy is on his third or fourth date with > a woman, he’s probably lavishing her with more compliments than > he does a year later when he expects her to just give him sex on > schedule. > The first time they have sex, it was probably her idea too. She > was fully aware that she could reject his advances for the first > N dates and he would keep coming back and showing affection. > In other words, on the first few dates, the woman is perfectly > free to disregard the man’s needs, and she suffers no ill > consequences. She’s not obligated to put out right away. His needs > are not her problem yet. > But after a year, if she doesn’t put out, he probably resents it > and makes his resentment obvious. Sex for her becomes a duty, rather > than something she does only when and if she pleases. After a while, > there start to be consequences when she doesn’t put out, and any > woman worth her estrogen is going to notice that. >> Now to be fair she may actually still be in love with him so she is >> confused about what the problem is , she is thinking the cool down is a >> normal part of a relationship . > Well, it is. Certainly it’s a normal part of the "nice guy"’s > relationships. Obviously he is not as loveable when women get > to know him better. But who is?
Many people get even more loveable over time. > Familiarity breeds contempt. It’s that simple.
Familiarity also breeds content. [and I mean that in both senses of the word]. > A woman doesn’t view sex the same way a man does. For a man, sex > is pretty much always fun. But to a woman, sex is something she > trades for other things she values more. In particular, a woman > loves to see a man work for it. A woman can make a man work hard > for it in the early going, but after a while she loses that power > with the same guy. Therefore he becomes less interesting to her.
I disagree with this viewpoint. Unless *you* *are* a woman and unless you are *every* woman you could never know what’s going on inside your ‘generic’ woman’s mind. There is nothing on this Earth that a normal person would trade for sex… unless of course that normal person is a prostitute, a pimp or the sex-starved punter. Perhaps you think everyone is one of these three. >> Many women in my other threads referr to geting back to their real life >> hhhmmm. >> so much for women being the more compassionate and caring sex . > Women are more compassionate and caring when it’s not about sex.
Can you insert the word "some" at the beginning of that sentence? Thanks for sharing your viewpoint, the Danimal.
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This might be an appropriate point to point you to this site – it showed me a hell of a lot about my ex. http://www.tljones.co.uk/apd/apd.htm I know in my case I was persuing the unobtainable.
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Jim Ledford wrote: > dan when I said you can’t read it was because you don’t > seem to either have read or maybe you did not see where > I wrote I am against slavery in any form of fashion.
Do you display the Stars and Bars in any fashion on your person or property? That is, are you proud of the flag of your rebellious sinful genocidal ancestors? Do you flaunt the colors of slavery so as to remind black folks of their place? > I’m on record dan.
Are you on record as expressing your eternal gratitude to the LORD for sending his appointed yankees to deliver the South from its evil ways of slavery? Do you thank the LORD every day for sending you his chosen servants the yankees? And keeping them there to prevent evil Southerners from slipping back into their evil? Well, DO YOU? > dan you also seem to misunderstand > how my dissatisfaction with yankee migrant labor has little > or nothing to do with yankees of 145 years ago.
Actually it has everything to do with it. If the yankees had not invaded the South, the South would still have slavery today. It was one or the other: black people in chains, or your gracious yankee overlords instructing the South in the ways of civility. Your constant whining and bitching about yankees makes it sound like you consider slavery the lesser evil. If it wasn’t for the yankees who vanquished your Southern Evil and then stayed around to keep it in check, you would live in the Most Evil Nation On Earth today! > my complete > disdain for yankees arrives by their nasty deeds of disregard > done in the today.
How many nasty deeds would yankees have to do to fully repay the South for its multitude of sins? Do you have any idea what conditions were like on slave ships? What could yankees do that begins to compare? You should thank the LORD for showing such mercy to your undeserving self. > The Research Triangle Park has attracted > millions of yankee migrant labors and thus provided me with way > to many opportunities to observe their despicable way of life > from way to close.
I thought you said the slaves were happy to be slaves. Perhaps the yankees similarly say you Southern rednecks are happy to have so many yankees around. > dan it is damn funny to me how your response > to my disdain for modern day yankees results in you bringing up > a past of 145 years ago
Which is directly connected to the presence of yankees in the South today! What do you think would happen to black people in the South if all the yankees just left? We already saw how Southern whites regrouped after defeat and Reconstruction and figured out ways to turn black people into second-class citizens again. Yankees had to send down fresh reinforcements of liberal reporters and lawyers to safeguard the rights of black people again in the 1960’s. First your ancestors uprooted those people and dragged them here in chains. Then you keep oppressing them for hundreds of years, but only as far as your yankee betters let you. > and completely disregarding how modern day > yankees are trashing the earth with pollution and their disregard > for nature. so that’s the best you can do?
What are yankees doing right now that compares to even one slave ship? — the Danimal
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -the Danimal wrote: > Jim Ledford wrote: > > ric wrote: > > > the Danimal wrote: > > > > Women are more compassionate and caring when it’s not about sex. > > > > — the Danimal > > > first off you make it sound as if sex is a bad thing . > Your odd comment brings to mind a quote: > Mathematicians are like Frenchman: whatever you say to them they > translate into their own language, and forthwith it is something > entirely different. > Source Unknown > > when sex is turned into a sport or a contest where one seeks > > to only see how many different partners one can obtain > That’s not a sport. The goal is not to see how many > DIFFERENT partners one can obtain, but how many of the > VERY HOTTEST partners one can obtain. > If you wanted to collect, say, garbage, you could collect > quite a bit.
ROTFLMAO – ok dan that was using information at it’s best. > Every week all your neighbors set tons of it > alongside the streets
my new neighbors toss as they pass by my place. > and you can help yourself to all you > like.
aluminum recycling for pocket change gets the stuff out of my front yard. > Because collecting garbage is too easy,
especially when you got yankees who ride by and toss their beer cans, fast food wrappers and whatever else they are finished with. a friend happened by one morning while I was collecting garbage from my front yard and explained "Jim, this is why we call the yankees a throw away society." > nobody wants > to make a sport of it.
they’ve taken to attempting to bust their beer bottles on my mail box as they zoom by in their SUV. that’s why they call’em ’sport utility vehicles’. > For something to qualify as a "sport" > there has to be some type of difficulty associated with it.
some yankees can actually hit my mail box. most miss. > In the sexual market, the less desirable people are generally > easier to have sex with. That’s about as sporting as if > hunters amused themselves by shooting deer chained to stakes. > > then > > YES sex is made into a bad thing called fornication. > > "fornication: consensual sexual intercourse between two > > persons not married to each other – compare adultery" > I cannot compare adultery to fornication because I have not > been married. But I would imagine it feels good too.
don’t get married just to find out. [....] > > then there are those who’d LOL and say "I’m going to try > > my new shoes on before I buy them." that is such a smart > > ass remark. > If southern slaveholders could have tried on Reconstruction > before deciding whether to rebel against their divinely ordained > national government,
I’m thinking if they’d known more about machines and how machines can produce lots of war materials they’d been a bit more cautious about their "DUMBASS DEED". > do you think southern slaveholders would [....] [....] > when your white slaveholding ancestors
[....] dan when I said you can’t read it was because you don’t seem to either have read or maybe you did not see where I wrote I am against slavery in any form of fashion. I’m on record dan. dan you also seem to misunderstand how my dissatisfaction with yankee migrant labor has little or nothing to do with yankees of 145 years ago. my complete disdain for yankees arrives by their nasty deeds of disregard done in the today. The Research Triangle Park has attracted millions of yankee migrant labors and thus provided me with way to many opportunities to observe their despicable way of life from way to close. dan it is damn funny to me how your response to my disdain for modern day yankees results in you bringing up a past of 145 years ago and completely disregarding how modern day yankees are trashing the earth with pollution and their disregard for nature. so that’s the best you can do? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — the Danimal
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Lash Rambo wrote: > Still can’t stand that the nice guy got the girl, huh?
Actually, I feel sorry for Victor. If things weren’t so fucked up (because of feminism) he should have already had a girlfriend his own age. He shouldn’t have to settle for some skanky old hag who is old enough to be his own mother. Victor deserves to have a nice girl who is around his own age, not some lecherous, old, STD-ridden divorcee from halfway around the world.
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JayCee wrote: > Lash Rambo wrote: > > Still can’t stand that the nice guy got the girl, huh? > Actually, I feel sorry for Victor. If things weren’t so fucked up > (because of feminism) he should have already had a girlfriend his own > age. He shouldn’t have to settle for some skanky old hag who is old > enough to be his own mother. Victor deserves to have a nice girl who > is around his own age, not some lecherous, old, STD-ridden divorcee > from halfway around the world.
what the hell is a girl his age going to give him that I don’t already?
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JayCee <jc3…@nospamhere.com> wrote in news:WtxNe.313$I93.17 @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: > ric wrote: >> in fact most couples are hot and heavy when they first get together but >> here is the problem (for nice guys) this usually does not last long >> enough . >> many women at some point want to get back to their normal schedual . > This is what will eventually happen to Victor once Ms. Pnats gets bored > with him. Or when she finds a bigger better deal at work or in her local > area. Read it and weep Victor, it’s gonna happen to you, sorry bud. Best > to get out now, before you get hurt. And mark my words, you WILL get > hurt if you get emotionally attached to this bitch.
Still can’t stand that the nice guy got the girl, huh?
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ric <morta…@nerdshack.com> wrote in news:de651p0223e@enews2.newsguy.com: > Many women in my other threads referr to geting back to their real > life hhhmmm.
We can say for sure the woman had a life before meeting the "nice guy." Did the "nice guy," however, have a life before meeting the woman? The rest of your essay seems to suggest he did not, and was expecting her to fill that huge void for him. She did this during the "honeymoon phase." When she returns to her normal life, however, suddenly the "nice guy" loses everything, goes batshit loco, and yeah, the woman will feel smothered! Think about it. > guys & girl’s i’d like your imput and also I’d like to know how long > does the honeymoon stage of a relationship last for you?
A couple of weeks.
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>Still can’t stand that the nice guy got the girl, huh?
That’s the whole purpose of the guy that manipulates these sock puppets. He wants to tell us that "nice guys" can’t win. But I don’t agree. First of all – HE isn’t a nice guy. He’s a fucking mutant. And secondly, nice guys have the ultimate weapon/virtue/characteristic in the game of life. We have the big heart. We are magnanimous and yes, if we understand all this shit, we are courageous. ZenDog
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Lash Rambo wrote: > JayCee <jc3…@nospamhere.com> wrote in news:WtxNe.313$I93.17 > @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: >>ric wrote: >>>in fact most couples are hot and heavy when they first get together but >>>here is the problem (for nice guys) this usually does not last long >>>enough . >>>many women at some point want to get back to their normal schedual . >>This is what will eventually happen to Victor once Ms. Pnats gets bored >>with him. Or when she finds a bigger better deal at work or in her local >>area. Read it and weep Victor, it’s gonna happen to you, sorry bud. Best >>to get out now, before you get hurt. And mark my words, you WILL get >>hurt if you get emotionally attached to this bitch. > Still can’t stand that the nice guy got the girl, huh?
Victor may be a "nice guy", but he didn’t get a "girl", he got a dried-up skanky old hag.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Lash Rambo wrote: > JayCee <jc3…@nospamhere.com> wrote in news:WtxNe.313$I93.17 > @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: > > ric wrote: > >> in fact most couples are hot and heavy when they first get > together but >> here is the problem (for nice guys) this usually does > not last long >> enough . > >> many women at some point want to get back to their normal schedual > . > > This is what will eventually happen to Victor once Ms. Pnats gets > > bored with him. Or when she finds a bigger better deal at work or > > in her local area. Read it and weep Victor, it’s gonna happen to > > you, sorry bud. Best to get out now, before you get hurt. And mark > > my words, you WILL get hurt if you get emotionally attached to this > > bitch. > Still can’t stand that the nice guy got the girl, huh?
yeah that is what it is. they are jealous.
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"ric" <morta…@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:de9mab02lg4@enews2.newsguy.com… >> Women are more compassionate and caring when it’s not about sex.
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Jim Ledford wrote: > ric wrote: > > the Danimal wrote: > > > Women are more compassionate and caring when it’s not about sex. > > > — the Danimal > > first off you make it sound as if sex is a bad thing .
Your odd comment brings to mind a quote: Mathematicians are like Frenchman: whatever you say to them they translate into their own language, and forthwith it is something entirely different. Source Unknown > when sex is turned into a sport or a contest where one seeks > to only see how many different partners one can obtain
That’s not a sport. The goal is not to see how many DIFFERENT partners one can obtain, but how many of the VERY HOTTEST partners one can obtain. If you wanted to collect, say, garbage, you could collect quite a bit. Every week all your neighbors set tons of it alongside the streets and you can help yourself to all you like. Because collecting garbage is too easy, nobody wants to make a sport of it. For something to qualify as a "sport" there has to be some type of difficulty associated with it. In the sexual market, the less desirable people are generally easier to have sex with. That’s about as sporting as if hunters amused themselves by shooting deer chained to stakes. > then > YES sex is made into a bad thing called fornication. > "fornication: consensual sexual intercourse between two > persons not married to each other – compare adultery"
I cannot compare adultery to fornication because I have not been married. But I would imagine it feels good too. > in today’s yankee society men and women are made to feel
Yes, but not for the reason you think. > as if they are somehow lacking something in their social > life if they are not having sex.
That’s because of what we are: survival machines that exist for one reason only: to safeguard our genes for a while and get them into the next generation. Our emotional brains know time is short and it’s a-wasting if we aren’t having sex. Genes are pretty good at making their robots feel miserable when the robots disobey the Genetic Prime Directive. The game rules are different for men and women, of course. Only men have legitimate doubts about their ability to get sex. > they are insulted and > called losers for practicing abstinence until marriage.
Not exactly. People are called losers when no desirable person wants to have sex with them. That is, people who find it all too easy to practice abstinence. It’s hilarious when such people try to portray their low sexual market value as some sort of virtue. Naturally there are predatory religions ready to provide that sort of false comfort to losers, and many losers buy in because such religions feed the starving ego. Someone who actually has lots of great opportunities to have sex with hot partners and rejects them all is not a "loser," but merely picky. For example, if any woman in the Maxim Hot 100 says she is abstaining from sex, nobody calls her a "loser" because obviously she must have men flocking to her constantly and getting shot down one after another. If a billionaire decides to live below his means, he is not a "loser." Merely "frugal." Everybody knows if he decided to buy a bunch of material goods, he could easily do so. If a homeless incompetent man has no marketable skill, he will look pretty pathetic if he tries to claim he is poor because he chooses to avoid the evils of money. But who knows, maybe he could fool Jim Ledford. > then there are those who’d LOL and say "I’m going to try > my new shoes on before I buy them." that is such a smart > ass remark.
If southern slaveholders could have tried on Reconstruction before deciding whether to rebel against their divinely ordained national government, do you think southern slaveholders would have fought their pathetic doomed war to preserve their grotesquely evil enslavement of black people? Perhaps if southern rebels had known the extent to which God planned to punish them for their sins, they might have repented from their sins instead of trying to fight against God’s holy yankee warriors. > conservatives want abstinence taught in the public schools as > a part of sex education. liberals undo all of that by handing > out free contraceptives to high school [kids] under the pretense > of stopping unwanted pregnancies as well as stopping the spread > of disease.
Actually liberals are not able to undo the work of conservatives. To see the full manifestation of the liberal agenda you have to visit countries like Sweden and Norway, in which the message of contraception is taught in schools with an undivided voice. The result is that the Scandinavian countries have far lower rates of teen pregnancy than the U.S. What happens in the U.S. is that conservatives manage to make some teenagers feel guilty about having sex, with the result that they are too embarrassed to have sex responsibly. Just telling kids that sex is sinful doesn’t tell them how to deal with sexual urge in the heat of the moment. > contraceptives cost money, abstinence is free.
That’s like saying eating less is free. And yet we have lots of fat people. Obviously for gluttons, eating less is not "free." They have to exert great efforts to resist their relentless urges to eat. The kind of effort they have to make is not easy to translate into monetary terms—you cannot buy willpower, yet—so it wouldn’t be surprising if a modern descendent of the southern dullards who thought enslaving black people was smart and fighting a doomed war to preserve slavery was going to work thought fat people can lose weight for free. If you wanted to force all the gluttons to slim down, you would have to spend a lot of money to pressure them to change their behavior. You would have to restructure all of society to regulate gluttons’ opportunities to get food. Similarly, it takes a vast societal investment to suppress sex outside marriage: armies of chaperones, busybodies to spy on their neighbors, vigorous sanction for unmarried women who get pregnant, and a huge social structure that prevents young men and women from finding opportunities to spend unsupervised time alone together. To make abstinence practical, as it was 150 years ago, you’d have to get rid of all the automobiles, for starters. The automobile started the whole free sex movement to begin with, by giving young men and women so much mobility that it was no longer practical for chaperones to regulate their behavior. Before there were automobiles, travel was difficult and dangerous. Most people spent most of their lives within walking distance of where they lived. That made it easier for adults to keep track of what the young’uns were doing. Few people spent much time outside of the relatively small group of people who knew them. It wasn’t practical for young people to travel far from their homes and gather in large numbers away from their local supervision. Hence, there wasn’t a distinct "youth market" such as exists today, in which advertisers target young people separately from everyone else. People of all ages listened to the same kinds of music and so on. There wasn’t a separate "youth culture." Religion costs money too. Billions of dollars per year. If some large fraction of human productivity hadn’t been squandered to maintain the objectively useless religious organization, you wouldn’t be parroting its imaginary ideas on command today. > why do liberals > always implement a program that cost money?
Contraception is cheaper than the alternative, namely getting rid of automobiles and returning to the world of 1850. > further more > contraceptives, supported by facts, don’t always stop unwanted > pregnancies or the spread of [STD] disease.
True, but irrelevant to your religious agenda. Fornication between two sterilized people who have been tested and shown free from diseases is still a sin according to you. The worst health hazard invented by humans is the city. Before humans started living in crowds, there weren’t any crowd diseases. Do you consider cities to be a sin? Tobacco kills considerably more people than sex does, even after the evolution of the AIDS virus. Have you ever grown tobacco on your farm? How much of the post-slave southern economy depends on growing tobacco and thereby spreading disease and death? So which sin do you think is worse? Fornication, or owning black people as slaves? > abstinence ALWAYS > accomplishes the result of no unwanted pregnancies as well as > stopping the spread of disease.
Only if you ALWAYS abstain. You know, if everybody obeyed all the traffic laws 100% of the time, there wouldn’t be nearly as many stupid gaswasting terrorist supporters smashing themselves up. But in practice, even doing the right thing 99.9% of the time isn’t good enough. You can stop at the stop sign 1000 times, but if you run it on the 1001th time, you might smash into another gaswasting terrorist supporting car. Or worse, you might murder a patriot on his bicycle who is out fighting the evil of terrorism. And sometimes people don’t have the choice to abstain! For example, when your white slaveholding ancestors used to rape their black female slaves, their slaves didn’t have a choice. How well did abstinence work for the slaves? > DARE to be yourself! tell’em to take their > follow the leader way of life and shove it!
First you say people "are made to feel insulted," then you say they can just abstain from sex. If people cannot control their emotions enough to decide when to feel insulted, how are they going to control their sexual urges? Not just 90% of the time, or 99% or even 99.9%, but 100.00% of the time? — the Danimal
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ric wrote: > the Danimal wrote: > > Women are more compassionate and caring when it’s not about sex. > > — the Danimal > first off you make it sound as if sex is a bad thing .
when sex is turned into a sport or a contest where one seeks to only see how many different partners one can obtain then YES sex is made into a bad thing called fornication. "fornication: consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other
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Well I guess you know it all and are making heaps of money selling on eBay, Good luck to you. I didn’t know much at all and it has brought me up to speed very quickly, As I have resell rights to this e-book I thought I would give it away for free to promote another little hobby venture.
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"jollyrodgers" wrote… I didn’t know much at all and it has brought me up to speed very quickly, As I have resell rights to this e-book I thought I would give it away for free to promote another little hobby venture.
What was this Powerseller’s eBay ID that you speak of? I seemed to have missed it if you mentioned it or you are simply refusing to post it and not want to help me. Which is it? Rita
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muttered something like: I didn’t know much at all and it has brought me up to speed very quickly, As I have resell rights to this e-book I thought I would give it away for free to promote another little hobby venture.
If you really wanted to help, you’d hang around and discuss what you’ve learned. What you’re doing is using a discussion group as your own personal advertising space; there are at least three people here who actually DO contribute who also have web sites with free information, and I’d be much more inclined to listen to what they have to say than some random stranger who blew through but didn’t bother discussing anything but their own little project. -Bertha — "I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." – Rebecca West, 1913
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "jollyrodgers" wrote… This e-book contains all the information you need to know to start your own ebay business THE ONLY PROGRAM YOU WILL EVER NEED TO MAKE THOUSANDS ON EBAY AND OBTAIN ROCK BOTTOM PRICING ON JUST ABOUT ANYTHING! Will this e-book increase my sales of Beanie Babies? I’m so happy that I sell one maybe two a week, but I realize I have the potential to sell at least six a week. I desperately need your help!!! The ebook is written by an ebay power seller and passes on all he has learned about selling on ebay.
Since rule number one of being a power seller on eBay is to NEVER admit you are one, the writer obviously does not know jackshit. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Well I guess you know it all and are making heaps of money selling on eBay…
Correct on both counts. Craig
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This e-book contains all the information you need to know to start your own ebay business THE ONLY PROGRAM YOU WILL EVER NEED TO MAKE THOUSANDS ON EBAY AND OBTAIN ROCK BOTTOM PRICING ON JUST ABOUT ANYTHING!
*aarrghhh* Ahoy, the Jolly Rodger! Heave to! Avast! Polly want a cracker? — Joanne
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*aarrghhh* Ahoy, the Jolly Rodger! Heave to! Avast! Polly want a cracker?
Shiver me timbers! Keel-haul the landlubber! Wench, rum for me and me mates!
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Get Your FREE Copy HERE http://compactURL.com/pcbk
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "jollyrodgers" wrote… This e-book contains all the information you need to know to start your own ebay business THE ONLY PROGRAM YOU WILL EVER NEED TO MAKE THOUSANDS ON EBAY AND OBTAIN ROCK BOTTOM PRICING ON JUST ABOUT ANYTHING! Will this e-book increase my sales of Beanie Babies? I’m so happy that I sell one maybe two a week, but I realize I have the potential to sell at least six a week. I desperately need your help!!! The ebook is written by an ebay power seller and passes on all he has learned about selling on ebay. Since rule number one of being a power seller on eBay is to NEVER admit you are one, the writer obviously does not know jackshit.
That’s why they all have POWER SELLER beside their names on eBay I guess. or maybe that’s why he didn’t publish his or her user name in the e-book. either way I am sorry I published this offer in this group. I was not trying to rip anyone off by offering it for way less than I paid for it and I do believe it to be a very useful and informative e-Book. Once again my apologies and consider the offer withdrawn from this group.
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says… <snip I am sorry I published this offer in this group. I was not trying to rip anyone off by offering it for way less than I paid for it
But you said it was FREE. How can someone so stupid and CLUELESS use a computer? and I do believe it to be a very useful and informative e-Book. Once again my apologies and consider the offer withdrawn from this group.
How are you now going to know if anyone who buys it from you is from this group or not? Will you still sell this FREE book if the person is not part of this group? I am confused.
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Well I guess you know it all and are making heaps of money selling on eBay… Correct on both counts.
:::nodding sagely::: The money I make selling on eBay cannot be counted in 10 days’ time by five bookkeepers. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. –Edward Abbey
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*aarrghhh* Ahoy, the Jolly Rodger! Heave to! Avast! Polly want a cracker? Shiver me timbers! Keel-haul the landlubber! Wench, rum for me and me mates!
No, no, no! You’re too early! National "Talk Like a Pirate" Day isn’t until September 19! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. –Edward Abbey
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says… <snip I am sorry I published this offer in this group. I was not trying to rip anyone off by offering it for way less than I paid for it But you said it was FREE. How can someone so stupid and CLUELESS use a computer?
A lot easier than an illiterate person, The e-Book was a free gift for signing up with the website, Is that so hard to understand. This has been a fairly standard marketing technique for as long as I can remember. I see it used on eBay all the time. All this harassment over such a straight forward thing. The e-Book is for real and has been sold on eBay. The site is for real and is a random payment generator that I personally have made a few dollars from and only cost me $1 to join. Really simple stuff. I only posted in this group as the e-Book related to EBay. Big mistake! Once again my apologies for posting in your group. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -and I do believe it to be a very useful and informative e-Book. Once again my apologies and consider the offer withdrawn from this group. How are you now going to know if anyone who buys it from you is from this group or not? Will you still sell this FREE book if the person is not part of this group? I am confused.
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jollyrodgers inside out posted: Once again my apologies for posting in your group.
Send pie. You will be absolved. Craig
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The e-Book was a free gift for signing up with the website, Is that so hard to understand?
Yes. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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A lot easier than an illiterate person, The e-Book was a free gift for signing up with the website, Is that so hard to understand.
Not at all. You have no interest in this group except as a free advertising medium. This has been a fairly standard marketing technique for as long as I can remember.
Yes, spamming has been around for quite a while. All this harassment over such a straight forward thing.
You drop a bunch of spam into a discussion group that you have never contributed to, and then act surprise when your rudeness garners hostile responses? Once again my apologies for posting in your group.
Since you obviously don’t feel you’ve done anything wrong, this is clearly a very insincere apology. Usenet does not exist to provide you with free advertising, and if you lack the common sense or courtesy to read a group’s FAQ before posting to it then you don’t have much grounds complaining when your shallow efforts don’t get the results you want. -Bertha — This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force. — Dorothy Parker
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Aaaaarrrrggghh! I say Aaaarrrggghh!! It’s either an eBay career for me and the parrot, or should I consider that FedEx shipping ad? Will the FREE ebook help me decide? All I can say is Aaaaarrrgggghhhh! I have a parrot and a hook! Aaaarrrgggghhh! Kris
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Aaaaarrrrggghh! I say Aaaarrrggghh!! It’s either an eBay career for me and the parrot, or should I consider that FedEx shipping ad? Will the FREE ebook help me decide? All I can say is Aaaaarrrgggghhhh! I have a parrot and a hook! Aaaarrrgggghhh! Kris
Very vile and obscene parrot gets punshied by putting it in a freezer. On release, parrot appologies profusely for prior behavior and says "May I please inquire what the chicken did?" — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Aaaaarrrrggghh! I say Aaaarrrggghh!! It’s either an eBay career for me and the parrot, or should I consider that FedEx shipping ad? Will the FREE ebook help me decide? All I can say is Aaaaarrrgggghhhh! I have a parrot and a hook! Aaaarrrgggghhh!
Nah, you don’t want to go the FedEx route. WALMART’s the answer. You’ll be able to use your eHook to help them slash their ePrices. Parrot optional. Loren…"but I don’t want to be a pirate" (Seinfeld, ‘The Puffy Shirt’ episode)
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just me wrote: > Ms. Mushy Pnats mentioned in passing : > > i suggest you pnacke hers and hers tings up and putt her in a nicee > > prioritee or fed EX bnox and send hers to teh ex. bee sure to putt > > zee fud in teh box and and some water wood be gud too. okkee hace > > fun > > byee > well, PP!, nice to see you after all this time! Where you been girl! > How are you and yours doing? You have been missed! > -Aula
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Poopie? I didn’t know you hung out here! How are you? – Ron ^*^ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ms. Mushy Pnats wrote: > Daedalus wrote: >>On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:18:44 GMT, "mathewsantifeminism" >><no-spam-antifemin…@mathews.me.uk>, wrote: >>>"ann" <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>news:1123685158.740f52d0ea25b70c7cb24613c0774635@meganetnews2… >>>>I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven >>>>years. >>>so, you didn’t see him as your husband,. just a paycheck to >>>’support’ you and your daughter? Nice. >>>>We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career >>>>than spending quality time with me. >>>well you see him as ’support’… i can’t imagine why he wanted to >>>move on, eh. >>>We’re both currently living our >>>>separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, >>>>there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my >>daughter. >>>is she his daughter? No, you say? Well why would you demand he >>>continue to ’support’ instead of the biological father hmmm? >>>>Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single >>>>mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. >>>simple, feminized laws demand men take responsibility for women’s >>>choices. this includes the concept that a cuckolded man should be >>>humiliated further by paying for a child which isn’t his. >>>>My ex fed my daughter. >>>>Clothed her. >>>>Put a roof over her head. >>>>Walked her to daycare. >>>>Walked her to elementary school. >>>>Paid her hospital bills. >>>and where were you while he was paying for all of this? >>>>This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as >>how >> he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. >>>>Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why >>>>not go after him?" >>>>Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life. >>>so, you’re saying if you folks had been married that would convince >>>you to go after him? >>>>Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. >>>and you don’t think your divorced husband will be moving on too? >>>They have baby on the >>>>way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day >>in >> and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be >>>>burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. >>>wow, you’re so generous to force a man to pay for a child that >>>isn’t his. >>>>Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and >>>>physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date rape.) >>>do you mean you changed your mind after the event? Well, ther’es a >>>billion women’s groups out there who can help with the stress you >>>claim. >>>>As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my >>ex-husband’s >> wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully >>keeping his money >> hidden away. >>>can you blame him? >>>>Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to >>>>fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer >>due >> to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe. >>>a deadbeat asswipe who isn’t cowing to your demands? >>Did you go barreling in there knowing you were being trolled, but too >>emotionally unstable to stop yourself? >>Otherwise, you need to have your mother walk you around on a leash so >>you don’t step in traffic. >>Jade > teehee
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Ms. Mushy Pnats mentioned in passing : > i suggest you pnacke hers and hers tings up and putt her in a nicee > prioritee or fed EX bnox and send hers to teh ex. bee sure to putt zee > fud in teh box and and some water wood be gud too. okkee hace fun > byee
well, PP!, nice to see you after all this time! Where you been girl! How are you and yours doing? You have been missed! -Aula — Power always has to be kept in check; power exercised in secret, especially under the cloak of national security, is doubly dangerous. – William Proxmire
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Werebat wrote: > Poopie? I didn’t know you hung out here! > How are you? > - Ron ^*^ > Ms. Mushy Pnats wrote: > > Daedalus wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:18:44 GMT, "mathewsantifeminism" > > > <no-spam-antifemin…@mathews.me.uk>, wrote: > >>>"ann" <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:1123685158.740f52d0ea25b70c7cb24613c0774635@meganetnews2… > > > > > I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for > > > > > seven years. > > > > so, you didn’t see him as your husband,. just a paycheck to > > > > ’support’ you and your daughter? Nice. > > > > > We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his > > > > > career than spending quality time with me. > > > > well you see him as ’support’… i can’t imagine why he wanted > > > > to move on, eh. > > > > We’re both currently living our > > > > > separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, > > > > > however, there is one problem: He refuses to continue to > > > > > support my > > > daughter. > > > > is she his daughter? No, you say? Well why would you demand he > > > > continue to ’support’ instead of the biological father hmmm? > > > > > Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date > > > > > single mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. > > > > simple, feminized laws demand men take responsibility for > > > > women’s choices. this includes the concept that a cuckolded > > > > man should be humiliated further by paying for a child which > > > > isn’t his. > > > > > My ex fed my daughter. > > > > > Clothed her. > > > > > Put a roof over her head. > > > > > Walked her to daycare. > > > > > Walked her to elementary school. > > > > > Paid her hospital bills. > > > > and where were you while he was paying for all of this? > > > > > This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, > > > > > seeing as > >>how >> he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. > > > > > Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological > > > > > father? Why not go after him?" > > > > > Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s > > > > > life. > > > > so, you’re saying if you folks had been married that would > > > > convince you to go after him? > > > > > Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. > > > > and you don’t think your divorced husband will be moving on too? > > > > They have baby on the > > > > > way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go > > > > > through day > >>in >> and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to > be > > > > > burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. > > > > wow, you’re so generous to force a man to pay for a child that > > > > isn’t his. > > > > > Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and > > > > > physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date > > > > > rape.) > > > > do you mean you changed your mind after the event? Well, > > > > ther’es a billion women’s groups out there who can help with > > > > the stress you claim. > > > > > As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my > >>ex-husband’s >> wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully > >>keeping his money >> hidden away. > > > > can you blame him? > > > > > Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get > > > > > him to fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not > > > > > have to suffer > >>due >> to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe. > > > > a deadbeat asswipe who isn’t cowing to your demands? > > > Did you go barreling in there knowing you were being trolled, but > > > too emotionally unstable to stop yourself? > > > Otherwise, you need to have your mother walk you around on a > > > leash so you don’t step in traffic. > > > Jade > > teehee
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dizzysmamma wrote: > Unless you have a very savy lawyer or your ex adopted your daughter there > isn’t a single thing you can do to get him to pay child support for your > daughter. If you have been married longer than say 10 years the system > might have been able to do something. But as it stands, 7 years just isn’t > enough time. > Angela > — > Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat."we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re > mad.""How do you know I’m mad?". said Alice."You must be," said the Cat,"or > you wouldn’t have come here.". > "ann" <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:1123685158.740f52d0ea25b70c7cb24613c0774635@meganetnews2… > >I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven years. > > We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career > > than spending quality time with me. We’re both currently living our > > separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, > > there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my daughter. > > Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single > > mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. > > My ex fed my daughter. > > Clothed her. > > Put a roof over her head. > > Walked her to daycare. > > Walked her to elementary school. > > Paid her hospital bills. > > This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as how > > he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. > > Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why > > not go after him?" > > Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life. > > Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. They have baby on the > > way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day in > > and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be > > burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. > > Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and > > physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date rape.) > > As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my ex-husband’s > > wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully keeping his money > > hidden away. > > Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to > > fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer due > > to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe.
Had the same thing happen to me (I am a guy) The dead beat mom never asked for a dime from the father of her child. She tried to stiff me with CS what a fn joke the system is…………….
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ann wrote: > I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for > seven years. We recently divorced because he was more > concerned with his career
Which enabled him to support your daughter for seven years. > than spending quality time with me. We’re both currently > living our separate lives with most of the paperwork out of > the way, however, there is one problem: He refuses to > continue to support my daughter.
Well there’s the problem with men who aren’t tied to you legally. You dump them, and they stop giving you money. Funny how that works, isn’t it? What did you think would happen??? Did you think he’d send you checks after you told him to get lost? [...] > My ex fed my daughter. Clothed her. Put a roof over her > head. Walked her to daycare. Walked her to elementary > school. Paid her hospital bills.
Sounds like he was doing what you should have been doing. Your daughter should dump you and go live with him. > This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure,
For which he should pay, you imply. But he no longer has that satisfaction, and he’s not paying. Do you see how the former and latter are related? [...] > Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological > father? Why not go after him?"
I was not wondering that, actually. I assumed that you would naturally grub for every cent you could possibly get, so if you weren’t taking from the father, you couldn’t. [...] > Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through > day in and day out,
Ahh, so I was right to assume you don’t make squat. Why did you have your kid in daycare when you obviously don’t make enough to justify that expense. Were you worried that you might become useful if you stayed home and raised her? [...] > Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get > him to fufill his obligation?
What obligation? If I gave $300 per month to the United Way for 7 years, does my generosity obligate me to continue being generous? Would the UW sue me if I stopped giving? [...]
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ann wrote: > I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven years. > We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career > than spending quality time with me. We’re both currently living our > separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, > there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my daughter. > Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single > mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. > My ex fed my daughter. > Clothed her. > Put a roof over her head. > Walked her to daycare. > Walked her to elementary school. > Paid her hospital bills. > This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as how > he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. > Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why > not go after him?" > Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life. > Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. They have baby on the > way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day in > and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be > burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. > Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and > physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date rape.) > As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my ex-husband’s > wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully keeping his money > hidden away. > Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to > fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer due > to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe.
i suggest you pnacke hers and hers tings up and putt her in a nicee prioritee or fed EX bnox and send hers to teh ex. bee sure to putt zee fud in teh box and and some water wood be gud too. okkee hace fun byee — fetch mah socs saveloy!! cool forum http://iamshy.proboards50.com/index.cgi http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Daedalus wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:18:44 GMT, "mathewsantifeminism" > <no-spam-antifemin…@mathews.me.uk>, wrote: > >"ann" <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:1123685158.740f52d0ea25b70c7cb24613c0774635@meganetnews2… > > > I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven > > > years. > > so, you didn’t see him as your husband,. just a paycheck to > > ’support’ you and your daughter? Nice. > >> We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career > >> than spending quality time with me. > > well you see him as ’support’… i can’t imagine why he wanted to > > move on, eh. > > We’re both currently living our > >> separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, > >> there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my > daughter. > > is she his daughter? No, you say? Well why would you demand he > > continue to ’support’ instead of the biological father hmmm? > >> Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single > >> mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. > > simple, feminized laws demand men take responsibility for women’s > > choices. this includes the concept that a cuckolded man should be > > humiliated further by paying for a child which isn’t his. > >> My ex fed my daughter. > >> Clothed her. > >> Put a roof over her head. > >> Walked her to daycare. > >> Walked her to elementary school. > >> Paid her hospital bills. > > and where were you while he was paying for all of this? > >> This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as > how >> he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. > >> Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why > >> not go after him?" > >> Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life. > > so, you’re saying if you folks had been married that would convince > > you to go after him? > >> Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. > > and you don’t think your divorced husband will be moving on too? > > They have baby on the > >> way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day > in >> and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be > >> burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. > > wow, you’re so generous to force a man to pay for a child that > > isn’t his. > >> Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and > >> physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date rape.) > > do you mean you changed your mind after the event? Well, ther’es a > > billion women’s groups out there who can help with the stress you > > claim. > >> As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my > ex-husband’s >> wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully > keeping his money >> hidden away. > > can you blame him? > >> Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to > >> fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer > due >> to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe. > > a deadbeat asswipe who isn’t cowing to your demands? > Did you go barreling in there knowing you were being trolled, but too > emotionally unstable to stop yourself? > Otherwise, you need to have your mother walk you around on a leash so > you don’t step in traffic. > Jade
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Call the Jerry Springer show … I’m sure he would be happy to help you out. /patting the troll on the head. "ann" <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1123685158.740f52d0ea25b70c7cb24613c0774635@meganetnews2… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven years. > We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career > than spending quality time with me. We’re both currently living our > separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, > there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my daughter. > Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single > mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. > My ex fed my daughter. > Clothed her. > Put a roof over her head. > Walked her to daycare. > Walked her to elementary school. > Paid her hospital bills. > This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as how > he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. > Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why > not go after him?" > Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life. > Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. They have baby on the > way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day in > and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be > burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. > Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and > physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date rape.) > As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my ex-husband’s > wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully keeping his money > hidden away. > Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to > fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer due > to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe.
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:47:57 -0700, ann <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote:
[...snip Man=Bad boilerplate...] >Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to >fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer due >to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe.
Perhaps you should’ve gotten a better job before you got bored with and dumped what sounded like a pretty decent guy. You made your daughter’s bed, i.e. you’re actually the negligent asswipe, and now she has to sleep in it.
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hesacoponthee…@yahoo.com wrote: > "anntroll" wrote: > > (nothing that bears worth repeating) > This is what passes for trolling around here? Talk about a threadbare > sock puppet! First anti-woman boy-pansy who responds is the troll! > -F.R.
You called it on the money. We need to strangle some of these shits early so they don’t give the rest of us a bad name. ZenDog
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I am really enjoying the Battle Angel Alita manga. Whoever drew this can do faces REALLY well. I think I am in love. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ann <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote: >I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven years. >We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career >than spending quality time with me. We’re both currently living our >separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, >there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my daughter. >Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single >mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. >My ex fed my daughter. >Clothed her. >Put a roof over her head. >Walked her to daycare. >Walked her to elementary school. >Paid her hospital bills. >This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as how >he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. >Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why >not go after him?" >Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life. >Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. They have baby on the >way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day in >and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be >burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. >Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and >physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date rape.) >As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my ex-husband’s >wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully keeping his money >hidden away. >Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to >fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer due >to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe.
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:47:57 -0700, ann <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote:
/sigh Time to deep-six another thread. Nan
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"anntroll" wrote: > (nothing that bears worth repeating)
This is what passes for trolling around here? Talk about a threadbare sock puppet! First anti-woman boy-pansy who responds is the troll! -F.R.
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"ann" <ann…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1123685158.740f52d0ea25b70c7cb24613c0774635@meganetnews2… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven years. > We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career > than spending quality time with me. We’re both currently living our > separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, > there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my daughter. > Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single > mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. > My ex fed my daughter. > Clothed her. > Put a roof over her head. > Walked her to daycare. > Walked her to elementary school. > Paid her hospital bills. > This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as how > he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage. > Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why > not go after him?" > Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life. > Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend. They have baby on the > way. Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day in > and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be > burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine. > Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and > physically abusive. (Our child was conceived through date rape.) > As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my ex-husband’s > wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully keeping his money > hidden away. > Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to > fufill his obligation? An innocent child should not have to suffer due > to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe.
What he did, he did as a CHOICE.. He chooses not to anymore. He’s not the sperm donor, he has no obligation (legally) to do anything he doesn’t choose to do. If he was truly a "father figure", he might do something out of love for the kid, but you can’t use the power of the state to force him to do anything.
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Looks like another bait post. A sick fuck creates a female sock puppet who posts something obviously stupid, then the misogynists have a straw dog to tear into. It’s an old usenet badger game. And, of course, it’s a rather pathetic scene of desperation as the Pavlovian dogs attack on cue. Sad. ZenDog
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>I was married to a man who helped support my daughter for seven years. > We recently divorced because he was more concerned with his career > than spending quality time with me.
Maybe because the daughter was expensive to support? >We’re both currently living our > separate lives with most of the paperwork out of the way, however, > there is one problem: He refuses to continue to support my daughter.
Duh. > Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of bias against men who date single > mothers in these newsgroups lately. I don’t get it. > My ex fed my daughter.
Your ex was desperate. Where’s her father? Answer: fucking women without kids yelling in the background. > Clothed her.
Chump. > Put a roof over her head.
Chump. > Walked her to daycare.
Chump. > Walked her to elementary school.
Chump. Oh wait, he may have hit on other single moms there. > Paid her hospital bills.
Chump. > This gave him the satisfaction of being a father figure, seeing as how > he was diagnosed as sterile two months into our marriage.
Sterile chump. > Of course you may be wondering: "Where’s the biological father? Why > not go after him?"
He’s a jerk. Women have a hands-off policy on jerks. > Because we never married. He’s NEVER been in my daughter’s life.
He’s still her father. > Besides, he’s moved on with a new girlfriend.
One without kids, no doubt. Stupid cunt. >They have baby on the > way.
He’ll be out the door once it’s born, I’m sure. >Knowing the pain of poverty my daughter has to go through day in > and day out, I wouldn’t want someone ELSE’S child to have to be > burdened with the SAME dilemna as mine.
Translation: make excuses for the jerk while trying to stick the bill to the nice guy. Stupid cunt. > Aside from that, the biological father was emotionally and > physically abusive.
Translation: you like abusive men because you can use them against those YOU don’t like. Stupid cunt. >(Our child was conceived through date rape.)
For which he wasn’t convicted. > As a last resort, I had my lawyer make a request for my ex-husband’s > wages to be garnished, though he’s been carefully keeping his money > hidden away.
Hope he sues the shit out of you AND the lawyer. Read up, men: date rapist gets off, chump who raises his kid gets sued. Stupid cunt. > Perhaps someone can give me advice on what I can do to get him to > fufill his obligation?
His obligation to a child which is not his? He’s obligated to find a better woman, that’s for sure. Stupid cunt. >An innocent child should not have to suffer due > to the negligence of a deadbeat asswipe.
Nor should she have to suffer the idiocy of her mother in choosing that type of man. Stupid cunt.
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Whenever I see multiple cross-posting, especially to soc.men and other non-related groups, I immediately suspect trolling, so I’m not even inclined to play along on this one.
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:32:50 -0500, The Dave
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I recently bought and read the book "The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism is Harming Our Young Men" by Christina Hoff Sommers. It’s a very good read, and is worth the 11.20 USD. I’m not going to outline the book, since many of the arguments are lengthy, well-researched and well-cited. However, her main belief is that while the feminist movement has done much for the rights of women, it has become misguided over the years and it now attacks young men for their natural behaviors and tendencies. In the beginning, the book addresses the gender bias in education, and it then moves on to address the social gender bias in general. Here’s a link to the book on Amazon: <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684849577/qid=11236280…> Below the book are also suggestions for the following books: – The Myth of Male Power by Warren, Ph.D. Farrell – The Hazards of Being Male: Surviving the Myth of Masculine Privilege by Herb Goldberg – The Decline of Males: The First Look at an Unexpected New World for Men and Women by Lionel Tiger I’ll have to take a look at those too, if I get the chance.
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In news:lvcif19tl57g0k8cv96c0r1okosaa2p4jh@4ax.com, gordon freeman <gfree…@anonymous.invalid> wrote : > I recently bought and read the book "The War Against Boys: How > Misguided Feminism is Harming Our Young Men" by Christina Hoff > Sommers. It’s a very good read, and is worth the 11.20 USD. I’m not > going to outline the book, since many of the arguments are lengthy, > well-researched and well-cited. However, her main belief is that while > the feminist movement has done much for the rights of women, it has > become misguided over the years and it now attacks young men for their > natural behaviors and tendencies. > In the beginning, the book addresses the gender bias in education, and > it then moves on to address the social gender bias in general. > Here’s a link to the book on Amazon:
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684849577/qid=11236280… 8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-2386112-5092918?v=glance&s=books&n=507846> > Below the book are also suggestions for the following books: > – The Myth of Male Power by Warren, Ph.D. Farrell > – The Hazards of Being Male: Surviving the Myth of Masculine Privilege > by Herb Goldberg > – The Decline of Males: The First Look at an Unexpected New World for > Men and Women by Lionel Tiger > I’ll have to take a look at those too, if I get the chance.
It was already in my list… (very big list…) Personally, I highly suggest this one, /Dead End Feminism/ , by Elisabeth Badinter. It’s not yet available (november 2005), I read it in french. It’s about "victimary feminism", she basically says that whining constantly is not the best path for women’s liberation, far from it. And she denounces the lies of some studies trying to show how much women are victims, still nowadays, trying to compare women’s situation with men’s. Amazing book. Makes you feel understood. She also questions, with the help of studies, the idea that women are naturally or culturally morally better than men. etc. btw, she’s a famous feminist in France. (even though now, most feminists have started hating her, since this book. No wonder it’s currently translated…) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0745633803/qid=11236320…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -JimSummers wrote: > Today I saw a normal guy trying to interact with this female and what I > witnessed is exactly why guys like Pumpkinhead are angry about the way > this whole system is setup to favor women. > The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER > something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was even a > slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on HER. He had > to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the work, she just > sat there and answered, at no point did she make any attempt to ask him > any questions…and this is considered being an "alpha male"??? > What is "Alpha" about it if the woman is in total control and she is the > one being catered to? > So let’s recap: > 1. Male initiates conversation and takes the risk of rejection > 2. Male is supposed to ask female all of the questions, it is all about > what she is doing, or likes, or feels, his issues don’t matter > 3. Whenever there is silence the male is expected to ask the superior > female on her throne another question to put the focus back on her again > Think about it, the passive female who is taking the least ACTION is > actually the one in CONTROL in this situation > Others exist and act to SERVE her, she sits back and takes no risks and > suffers no possibility of rejection. > Women enjoy this system, they can’t lose because they hold all of the > cards.
Jim, if you were to walk up to me as a total stranger and start asking a bunch of questions about me, as a shy woman who also happens to be leery of strangers, I would be very uncomfortable. Conversely, if you walked up and started talking with a bunch of "I" statements, I’d think wow this person is self-absorbed. Let me ask you, if the situation was reversed and the woman followed what you have outlined above, what would you think of her? rgds, lisa
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JimSummers wrote: > Today I saw a normal guy trying to interact with this female and what I > witnessed is exactly why guys like Pumpkinhead are angry about the way > this whole system is setup to favor women. > The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER > something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was even a > slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on HER. He had > to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the work, she just > sat there and answered, at no point did she make any attempt to ask him > any questions…and this is considered being an "alpha male"???
The less she says, the better off she is.
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Lash Rambo wrote: > "JimSummers" <jimsummer…@aol.com> wrote in > news:1faa77033e9e3e2a417249b0afbe1b06@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: > > The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER > > something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was > > even a slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on > > HER. He had to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the > > work, she just sat there and answered, at no point did she make any > > attempt to ask him any questions…and this is considered being an > > "alpha male"??? > Sounds like she was uninterested in the guy. Either that, or shy. (What?! > A shy woman?!?! SHOCK! AWE!!!)
Bingo!!!!!!!! It’s interesting to see how many of the topics being discussed are attributing evil/malicious intent to situations that have many perfectly INNOCENT alternatives. If you can keep an open mind while you’re in the situation you might be able to pickup on the vibes as to what is going on. I know that I’m horrible at small talk with strangers. During the work day I interact with many people, including co-workers and clients, but there is always "the work" as a topic and so no problems. When it comes to sitting across a table with a total stranger, forget it! It seems to me that the person who strikes up the conversation bears the burden of keeping it going. It may not be fair, but… What bugs the hell out of me is when somebody walks up and starts a conversation and then just stands there. It’s an awkward feeling. No evil intent at all. rgds, lisa
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dolores wrote: > JimSummers wrote: >> Today I saw a normal guy trying to interact with this female and what I >> witnessed is exactly why guys like Pumpkinhead are angry about the way >> this whole system is setup to favor women. >> The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER >> something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was >> even a >> slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on HER. He had >> to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the work, she just >> sat there and answered, at no point did she make any attempt to ask him >> any questions…and this is considered being an "alpha male"??? >> What is "Alpha" about it if the woman is in total control and she is the >> one being catered to? >> So let’s recap: >> 1. Male initiates conversation and takes the risk of rejection >> 2. Male is supposed to ask female all of the questions, it is all about >> what she is doing, or likes, or feels, his issues don’t matter >> 3. Whenever there is silence the male is expected to ask the superior >> female on her throne another question to put the focus back on her again >> Think about it, the passive female who is taking the least ACTION is >> actually the one in CONTROL in this situation >> Others exist and act to SERVE her, she sits back and takes no risks and >> suffers no possibility of rejection. >> Women enjoy this system, they can’t lose because they hold all of the >> cards. > Or he could have taken the hint that she wasn’t interested, and left her > alone.
If that is true then every girl I’ve ever talked too hasn’t been interested. What Summers is describing is basically how all my conversations with women have gone. However given my reserved nature those are the type of conversations I prefer. I just don’t have the conversational ability to keep them going.
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Today I saw a normal guy trying to interact with this female and what I witnessed is exactly why guys like Pumpkinhead are angry about the way this whole system is setup to favor women. The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was even a slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on HER. He had to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the work, she just sat there and answered, at no point did she make any attempt to ask him any questions…and this is considered being an "alpha male"??? What is "Alpha" about it if the woman is in total control and she is the one being catered to? So let’s recap: 1. Male initiates conversation and takes the risk of rejection 2. Male is supposed to ask female all of the questions, it is all about what she is doing, or likes, or feels, his issues don’t matter 3. Whenever there is silence the male is expected to ask the superior female on her throne another question to put the focus back on her again Think about it, the passive female who is taking the least ACTION is actually the one in CONTROL in this situation Others exist and act to SERVE her, she sits back and takes no risks and suffers no possibility of rejection. Women enjoy this system, they can’t lose because they hold all of the cards.
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"JimSummers" <jimsummer…@aol.com> wrote in news:1faa77033e9e3e2a417249b0afbe1b06@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com: > The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER > something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was > even a slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on > HER. He had to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the > work, she just sat there and answered, at no point did she make any > attempt to ask him any questions…and this is considered being an > "alpha male"???
Sounds like she was uninterested in the guy. Either that, or shy. (What?! A shy woman?!?! SHOCK! AWE!!!)
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"JimSummers" <jimsummer…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1faa77033e9e3e2a417249b0afbe1b06@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Today I saw a normal guy trying to interact with this female and what I > witnessed is exactly why guys like Pumpkinhead are angry about the way > this whole system is setup to favor women. > The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER > something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was even a > slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on HER. He had > to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the work, she just > sat there and answered, at no point did she make any attempt to ask him > any questions…and this is considered being an "alpha male"??? > What is "Alpha" about it if the woman is in total control and she is the > one being catered to? > So let’s recap: > 1. Male initiates conversation and takes the risk of rejection > 2. Male is supposed to ask female all of the questions, it is all about > what she is doing, or likes, or feels, his issues don’t matter > 3. Whenever there is silence the male is expected to ask the superior > female on her throne another question to put the focus back on her again > Think about it, the passive female who is taking the least ACTION is > actually the one in CONTROL in this situation > Others exist and act to SERVE her, she sits back and takes no risks and > suffers no possibility of rejection. > Women enjoy this system, they can’t lose because they hold all of the > cards.
Absolutely true, Jim. When feminism took over, chivalry was supposed to die. Looks like the current crop of females didn’t get the memo. Surprised? Neither am I. Unfortunately, most men are complete suckers and slaves to pu**y, so the beat goes on. Rick
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -JimSummers wrote: > Today I saw a normal guy trying to interact with this female and what I > witnessed is exactly why guys like Pumpkinhead are angry about the way > this whole system is setup to favor women. > The guy initiated conversation with her but unless he was asking HER > something about HERSELF she had nothing to say, everytime there was even a > slight pause HE would have to direct the conversation back on HER. He had > to ask her all of the questions, he had to do all of the work, she just > sat there and answered, at no point did she make any attempt to ask him > any questions…and this is considered being an "alpha male"??? > What is "Alpha" about it if the woman is in total control and she is the > one being catered to? > So let’s recap: > 1. Male initiates conversation and takes the risk of rejection > 2. Male is supposed to ask female all of the questions, it is all about > what she is doing, or likes, or feels, his issues don’t matter > 3. Whenever there is silence the male is expected to ask the superior > female on her throne another question to put the focus back on her again > Think about it, the passive female who is taking the least ACTION is > actually the one in CONTROL in this situation > Others exist and act to SERVE her, she sits back and takes no risks and > suffers no possibility of rejection. > Women enjoy this system, they can’t lose because they hold all of the > cards.
Or he could have taken the hint that she wasn’t interested, and left her alone. — -=Lola —————- You’re living in your own private Idaho Living in your own private Idaho Underground like a wild potato. –B52s.
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Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single? At least thats what I’ve always noticed, and have always been on the receiving end of. Its not my fault I am intrinsically unattractive to women, that I don’t have what they like in either the looks or personality area. I constantly try to flirt and meet someone out there,but my 34 years on this planet has shown that women just aren’t into me at all. I am ashamed of it but what can I do? Why do "friends" (and their SOs) have to make me feel like an outcast because of it? It takes two, I’m trying to do my part. I think the problem is I seem normal in every other respect so they wonder why I am not part of a couple like they are. They don’t realize its not that easy for us unimpressive ordinary guys out there…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Pumpkinhead wrote: > "michaelashouse" <Michaela> wrote in message > news:w7OdnZVUw6xENzHfRVn-uA@is.co.za… >>Pumpkinhead wrote: >>>"Joe" wrote >>>>That’s because of "standards" in society, as I’m sure you’re already >>>>aware of. Typically, the guy initiates contact and is the initiator >>>>of relationships. >>>Does anyone else but me like a woman who dares to be different? >>LOL that is so wwwwch. Every guy (ok, most guys) I’ve ever >>known who’s told me about a girl he’s excited about has >>said, "She’s… I dunno. Just… different." > I don’t see the link between "different" and "can’t have". What I had in > mind is that a woman who’s different will not feel deterred from initiating > a relationship with a man. >>Now why don’t you motivate her to be different instead of >>play the lie-down-on-a-slab-guy? > Motivate a woman to initiate a relationship with me? > What’s a lie-down-on-a-slab-guy?
It’s really not unrealistic to expect that a woman who is profoundly attracted to you will attempt to initiate a relationship with you. In order to increase the odds of that happening, you just have to meet and get to know as many women as possible, so that at least one of them will have the chance to become profoundly attracted to you. — -=Lola —————- You’re living in your own private Idaho Living in your own private Idaho Underground like a wild potato. –B52s.
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withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote in news:1118498263.873978.71390 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single? At least > thats what I’ve always noticed, and have always been on the receiving > end of. Its not my fault I am intrinsically unattractive to women, that > I don’t have what they like in either the looks or personality area. I > constantly try to flirt and meet someone out there,but my 34 years on > this planet has shown that women just aren’t into me at all. I am > ashamed of it but what can I do? Why do "friends" (and their SOs) have > to make me feel like an outcast because of it? It takes two, I’m trying > to do my part. I think the problem is I seem normal in every other > respect so they wonder why I am not part of a couple like they are. > They don’t realize its not that easy for us unimpressive ordinary guys > out there…
Two things: Complacency: People who’ve achieved something tend to look down on others who want to achieve the same, but can’t or don’t. It doesn’t seem to matter whether it came easy or hard to them, or whether they promised themselves or others that they’d never lose sight of their beginnings and struggles. Hubris: People tend to overplay the role of hard work and underplay the role of luck in their achievements. In fact, most great achievements on any scale (global, community, personal) owe much to luck–having the right resources at the right places at the right times. Hard work pushes it into the clouds, but luck got it off the ground in the first place. In other words, people assume that because they can find a date, anyone can, and that all it takes is hard work. Thus, if someone they know wants a date and can’t get one, they must just be lazy!
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"michaelashouse" <Michaela> wrote in message
news:w7OdnZVUw6xENzHfRVn-uA@is.co.za… > Pumpkinhead wrote: > > "Joe" wrote > >> That’s because of "standards" in society, as I’m sure you’re already > >> aware of. Typically, the guy initiates contact and is the initiator > >> of relationships. > > Does anyone else but me like a woman who dares to be different? > LOL that is so wwwwch. Every guy (ok, most guys) I’ve ever > known who’s told me about a girl he’s excited about has > said, "She’s… I dunno. Just… different." > Now why don’t you motivate her to be different instead of > play the lie-down-on-a-slab-guy?
Have you ever tried to prove to any of these guys that it’s even possible for them to do so?
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withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote: > But thats just it – it *isn’t* easy for every average guy to get a gf. > Why do people just assume it is? I suppose they have no understanding > or empathy of whats its like to be in this position.
People (guys) come into their own at different times. People (guys) have experiences that develop their character and that developed character builds confidence and the uniqueness of the character is what attracts friends and potential lovers/spouses to them. > But I don’t know > why it doesn’t occur to them that the guy may not be able to find > anyone interested in him, due to no real "fault" of his own,other than > being physically unappealing to women, not having any "game" or just > not meeting anyone due to circumstance.
Being physically unappealing is a vague term. It can relate to weight, age or very unusual or unique physical features, personal habits good or bad. Not having a girlfriend is not a fault. There are reasons why a guy doesn’t have a girlfriend but sometimes these reasons are not obvious to the fellow in question. If a guy has lots of buddies who have lots of girlfriends, they should be able to politely point out not why the fellow doesn’t have a girlfriend but possibly things the guy should learn, do or in some cases not do to enhance his chances of getting a girlfriend. > I’ve learned female "friends" > are the most unsympathetic and patronizing of all. Women have no > respect or sympathy for single guys.
It would help if you gave examples of what you mean. If you say to these women that you can’t seem to get laid, it may leave them with the impression you want them to do you a favour which would make them unsympathetic and patronnizing. What do you guy friends have to say about you and your apparent difficulties getting a girlfriend? > If a guy doesn’t already have a gf > she can steal him from he is worthless in her eyes. If hes single they > think it must be by choice.
Women I know all think guys are looking for women. > I’ve had women that rejected me before tell me that they don’t > understand why I don’t have a girlfriend.
Well, we have no idea who you are and we have no idea who the women are that you showed some interest in. I don’t know what makes them – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> think other women will react towards me any differently than they > did…
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"michaelashouse" <Michaela> wrote in message
news:w7OdnZVUw6xENzHfRVn-uA@is.co.za… > Pumpkinhead wrote: >> "Joe" wrote >>> That’s because of "standards" in society, as I’m sure you’re already >>> aware of. Typically, the guy initiates contact and is the initiator >>> of relationships. >> Does anyone else but me like a woman who dares to be different? > LOL that is so wwwwch. Every guy (ok, most guys) I’ve ever > known who’s told me about a girl he’s excited about has > said, "She’s… I dunno. Just… different."
I don’t see the link between "different" and "can’t have". What I had in mind is that a woman who’s different will not feel deterred from initiating a relationship with a man. > Now why don’t you motivate her to be different instead of > play the lie-down-on-a-slab-guy?
Motivate a woman to initiate a relationship with me? What’s a lie-down-on-a-slab-guy?
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Pumpkinhead wrote: > "Joe" wrote >> That’s because of "standards" in society, as I’m sure you’re already >> aware of. Typically, the guy initiates contact and is the initiator >> of relationships. > Does anyone else but me like a woman who dares to be different?
LOL that is so wwwwch. Every guy (ok, most guys) I’ve ever known who’s told me about a girl he’s excited about has said, "She’s… I dunno. Just… different." Now why don’t you motivate her to be different instead of play the lie-down-on-a-slab-guy? – Michaela — As a man was advancing in his years, and fell ill, he called one of his advisors close to him and said: "My son, hear me. When I was younger, I tried to change the world, and I failed. And as I my youth passed on, I came to focus on my country instead. And again, I could not affect change. As I fell very old, I tried only to make change within my own family, but by then, it was too late. And now I lie here ill, and I realize the truth. Had I just changed myself, my family would’ve changed with me. And together we’d have changed the country, and our country would’ve changed the world."
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withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote: > But thats just it – it *isn’t* easy for every average guy to get a gf. > Why do people just assume it is? I suppose they have no understanding > or empathy of whats its like to be in this position.
Ironically you don’t have any understanding or empathy with your would-be target either. If you did you would be in a position to relate to them and not feel the desire to make such posts in the first place. But I don’t know > why it doesn’t occur to them that the guy may not be able to find > anyone interested in him, due to no real "fault" of his own,other than > being physically unappealing to women, not having any "game" or just > not meeting anyone due to circumstance. I’ve learned female "friends" > are the most unsympathetic and patronizing of all. Women have no > respect or sympathy for single guys.
And by virtue of this sentence you don’t appear to have any respect or sympathy for women either. – Michaela — As a man was advancing in his years, and fell ill, he called one of his advisors close to him and said: "My son, hear me. When I was younger, I tried to change the world, and I failed. And as I my youth passed on, I came to focus on my country instead. And again, I could not affect change. As I fell very old, I tried only to make change within my own family, but by then, it was too late. And now I lie here ill, and I realize the truth. Had I just changed myself, my family would’ve changed with me. And together we’d have changed the country, and our country would’ve changed the world."
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Even though every female in the world (well, my world, in America) between 12-40 dyes her teeth, her hair, her skin, wears exposing clothes, overtweezes her eyebrows, etc. KC
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August Pamplona wrote: > a silly guess, don’t take me too seriously. > August Pamplona
I don’t think we’re in any danger on that count. – Michaela — As a man was advancing in his years, and fell ill, he called one of his advisors close to him and said: "My son, hear me. When I was younger, I tried to change the world, and I failed. And as I my youth passed on, I came to focus on my country instead. And again, I could not affect change. As I fell very old, I tried only to make change within my own family, but by then, it was too late. And now I lie here ill, and I realize the truth. Had I just changed myself, my family would’ve changed with me. And together we’d have changed the country, and our country would’ve changed the world."
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Rick S. wrote: > <withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1118498263.873978.71390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… > > Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single? At least > > thats what I’ve always noticed, and have always been on the receiving > > end of. Its not my fault I am intrinsically unattractive to women, that > > I don’t have what they like in either the looks or personality area. I > > constantly try to flirt and meet someone out there,but my 34 years on > > this planet has shown that women just aren’t into me at all. I am > > ashamed of it but what can I do? Why do "friends" (and their SOs) have > > to make me feel like an outcast because of it? It takes two, I’m trying > > to do my part. I think the problem is I seem normal in every other > > respect so they wonder why I am not part of a couple like they are. > > They don’t realize its not that easy for us unimpressive ordinary guys > > out there… > You have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, and anyone who treats you like > an outcast is not your friend. > Thanks to feminism, the daughters of Eve in the modern West have reenacted > the original sin which got the first couple expelled from Paradise. > Don’t make Adam’s mistake. Cut the ties that bind. Let Eve go, and let her > rot in hell. > Today’s woman is radioactive. Toxic. Lethal. Tread lightly, and don your > protective suit. > Unless you’re a rich boy or a bad boy, you will remain invisible to her. > And that is for the best. Kind, decent young men like you are far better > off visiting an *honest* prostitute every now and then. > I am ten years older than you, and I will never marry. > Treasure your singleness. It is a blessing in disguise. > Rick
Those sound like wise words, thanks.
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"Hardpan" <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mucna158lpkm7e13ci2racp72g537d5sj4@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:48:55 GMT, "Rick S." > <metok…@youtofindout.com> wrote: >><withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:1118498263.873978.71390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… >>> Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single? At least >>> thats what I’ve always noticed, and have always been on the receiving >>> end of. Its not my fault I am intrinsically unattractive to women, that >>> I don’t have what they like in either the looks or personality area. I >>> constantly try to flirt and meet someone out there,but my 34 years on >>> this planet has shown that women just aren’t into me at all. I am >>> ashamed of it but what can I do? Why do "friends" (and their SOs) have >>> to make me feel like an outcast because of it? It takes two, I’m trying >>> to do my part. I think the problem is I seem normal in every other >>> respect so they wonder why I am not part of a couple like they are. >>> They don’t realize its not that easy for us unimpressive ordinary guys >>> out there… >>You have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, and anyone who treats you >>like >>an outcast is not your friend. >>Thanks to feminism, the daughters of Eve in the modern West have reenacted >>the original sin which got the first couple expelled from Paradise. >>Don’t make Adam’s mistake. Cut the ties that bind. Let Eve go, and let >>her >>rot in hell. >>Today’s woman is radioactive. Toxic. Lethal. Tread lightly, and don >>your >>protective suit. >>Unless you’re a rich boy or a bad boy, you will remain invisible to her. >>And that is for the best. Kind, decent young men like you are far better >>off visiting an *honest* prostitute every now and then. >>I am ten years older than you, and I will never marry. >>Treasure your singleness. It is a blessing in disguise. > Great advice ! > I couldnt have said it better myself.
Thanks good sir. It came straight from the heart.
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<withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118498263.873978.71390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… > Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single? At least > thats what I’ve always noticed, and have always been on the receiving > end of. Its not my fault I am intrinsically unattractive to women, that > I don’t have what they like in either the looks or personality area. I > constantly try to flirt and meet someone out there,but my 34 years on > this planet has shown that women just aren’t into me at all. I am > ashamed of it but what can I do? Why do "friends" (and their SOs) have > to make me feel like an outcast because of it? It takes two, I’m trying > to do my part. I think the problem is I seem normal in every other > respect so they wonder why I am not part of a couple like they are. > They don’t realize its not that easy for us unimpressive ordinary guys > out there…
You have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, and anyone who treats you like an outcast is not your friend. Thanks to feminism, the daughters of Eve in the modern West have reenacted the original sin which got the first couple expelled from Paradise. Don’t make Adam’s mistake. Cut the ties that bind. Let Eve go, and let her rot in hell. Today’s woman is radioactive. Toxic. Lethal. Tread lightly, and don your protective suit. Unless you’re a rich boy or a bad boy, you will remain invisible to her. And that is for the best. Kind, decent young men like you are far better off visiting an *honest* prostitute every now and then. I am ten years older than you, and I will never marry. Treasure your singleness. It is a blessing in disguise. Rick
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Bernd Jendrissek wrote: > —–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– > Hash: SHA1 > In article <1118503548.124989.175…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> > withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote: >>But thats just it – it *isn’t* easy for every average guy to get a gf. >>Why do people just assume it is? I suppose they have no understanding >>or empathy of whats its like to be in this position.
[snip] > They’re not thinking that, AFAICT – they’re just stroking your ego, > telling you lies [they think] you want to hear, because that’s how women > relate to each other – validating each other.
That has the ring of truth to it. August Pamplona — Women bring men they like tasks in much the same way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. – Lola on a.s.s. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut Proud member of the reality-based community. The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.
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Troll wrote: > "Laura Stevenson" <laurasteven…@compuconnection.net> wrote in > news:JHFqe.90313$8S5.59355@bignews3.bellsouth.net: > Ah, the Bellsouth slut. Try popping something into your anal cavity > so we don’t have to witness your moans.
Interesting that you should mention anal cavities and moans in the same sentence. I wonder what made you think of that? Freudian slip I suppose. Have you always enjoyed taking it up the ass, or is this something new that you’re fantasizing about?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bernd Jendrissek wrote: > —–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– > Hash: SHA1 > In article <1118503548.124989.175…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> > withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote: > >But thats just it – it *isn’t* easy for every average guy to get a gf. > >Why do people just assume it is? I suppose they have no understanding > >or empathy of whats its like to be in this position. > Cross-sex empathy is a rare virtue. > >But I don’t know why it doesn’t occur to them that the guy may not be > >able to find anyone interested in him, due to no real "fault" of his > >own,other than being physically unappealing to women, not having any > >"game" or just not meeting anyone due to circumstance. > It’s easier to dismiss that as being his "fault". That way, you can > compartmentalize him as a "loser" who "deserves" his unhappiness. > Voila, cognitive dissonance resolved. > >I’ve learned female "friends" are the most unsympathetic and > >patronizing of all. Women have no respect or sympathy for single guys. > Would you expect a rhinoceros to ride a bicycle and write poetry? No. > Their reality just doesn’t include such preposterous concepts. > Similarly, few women can conceive of a reality in which throngs of MOTOS > don’t push themselves into your awareness. > Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence > [or innocent cluelessness]. > >If a guy doesn’t already have a gf she can steal him from he is > >worthless in her eyes. > Social proof. They’re all writing an exam, and the question is, "Who is > a good man?" None of them know the answer, so they cheat and crib each > other’s answers. > >If hes single they think it must be by choice. > Well I’d rather have women thinking I’m single by choice than that > there’s something "wrong" with me! > >I’ve had women that rejected me before tell me that they don’t > >understand why I don’t have a girlfriend. I don’t know what makes them > >think other women will react towards me any differently than they > >did… > They’re not thinking that, AFAICT – they’re just stroking your ego, > telling you lies [they think] you want to hear, because that’s how women > relate to each other – validating each other.
Damn good post sir. That gave me the insight I was looking for. Insightful perspective…
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Mxsmanic wrote: > Nobody has ever blamed me for not having a girlfriend–most people don’t > see it as a mistake or fault. Nobody has offered any opinions on > whether or not it is my choice. Many people find it odd that I’ve had > no girlfriends, but that’s as far as their observations go. >> —
Unfortunately the opposite has been my experience as of late. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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<grammatical/spelling errors corrected in-text> > It’s the double standard. When Women don’t have someone to have > sex with Them, it’s because males are shallow and superficial and > care for looks only and so on. When males don’t have a GF, it’s > because they are not capable and skillful and so on.
Or because they are too pathetic to deserve one, such as in your case.
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—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– Hash: SHA1 In article <1118503548.124989.175…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote: >But thats just it – it *isn’t* easy for every average guy to get a gf. >Why do people just assume it is? I suppose they have no understanding >or empathy of whats its like to be in this position.
Cross-sex empathy is a rare virtue. >But I don’t know why it doesn’t occur to them that the guy may not be >able to find anyone interested in him, due to no real "fault" of his >own,other than being physically unappealing to women, not having any >"game" or just not meeting anyone due to circumstance.
It’s easier to dismiss that as being his "fault". That way, you can compartmentalize him as a "loser" who "deserves" his unhappiness. Voila, cognitive dissonance resolved. >I’ve learned female "friends" are the most unsympathetic and >patronizing of all. Women have no respect or sympathy for single guys.
Would you expect a rhinoceros to ride a bicycle and write poetry? No. Their reality just doesn’t include such preposterous concepts. Similarly, few women can conceive of a reality in which throngs of MOTOS don’t push themselves into your awareness. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence [or innocent cluelessness]. >If a guy doesn’t already have a gf she can steal him from he is >worthless in her eyes.
Social proof. They’re all writing an exam, and the question is, "Who is a good man?" None of them know the answer, so they cheat and crib each other’s answers. >If hes single they think it must be by choice.
Well I’d rather have women thinking I’m single by choice than that there’s something "wrong" with me! >I’ve had women that rejected me before tell me that they don’t >understand why I don’t have a girlfriend. I don’t know what makes them >think other women will react towards me any differently than they >did…
They’re not thinking that, AFAICT – they’re just stroking your ego, telling you lies [they think] you want to hear, because that’s how women relate to each other – validating each other. – — "I learned to play guitar just to get the girls, and anyone who says they didn’t is just lyin’!" — Willie Nelson —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFCqx/a/FmLrNfLpjMRApQsAKCJp8QGKH9LMWaXhwTDn6mqQeqi3gCggF/z 653Aug2KiNmVXj9Du1SM9nU= =MPte —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–
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"Joe" <j…@noone.com> wrote in message
news:rlCqe.2785$VK4.451@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… > That’s because of "standards" in society, as I’m sure you’re already aware > of. Typically, the guy initiates contact and is the initiator of > relationships.
Does anyone else but me like a woman who dares to be different?
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withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com writes: > Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single? At least > thats what I’ve always noticed, and have always been on the receiving > end of.
Nobody has ever blamed me for not having a girlfriend–most people don’t see it as a mistake or fault. Nobody has offered any opinions on whether or not it is my choice. Many people find it odd that I’ve had no girlfriends, but that’s as far as their observations go. > Its not my fault I am intrinsically unattractive to women, that > I don’t have what they like in either the looks or personality area. I > constantly try to flirt and meet someone out there,but my 34 years on > this planet has shown that women just aren’t into me at all.
It’s best to accept it and get on with life, as it won’t change. > I am ashamed of it but what can I do?
What’s to be ashamed of? Appearance is a roll of the dice. — Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote: > But thats just it – it *isn’t* easy for every average guy to get a gf. > Why do people just assume it is? I suppose they have no understanding > or empathy of whats its like to be in this position. But I don’t know > why it doesn’t occur to them that the guy may not be able to find > anyone interested in him, due to no real "fault" of his own,other than > being physically unappealing to women, not having any "game" or just > not meeting anyone due to circumstance. I’ve learned female "friends" > are the most unsympathetic and patronizing of all. Women have no > respect or sympathy for single guys. If a guy doesn’t already have a gf > she can steal him from he is worthless in her eyes. If hes single they > think it must be by choice. > I’ve had women that rejected me before tell me that they don’t > understand why I don’t have a girlfriend. I don’t know what makes them > think other women will react towards me any differently than they > did…
Maybe you are a lot more appealing than you think you are but in a way that is seen by most females as "for someone else"? It’s just a silly guess, don’t take me too seriously. August Pamplona — Women bring men they like tasks in much the same way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. – Lola on a.s.s. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut Proud member of the reality-based community. The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.
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withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com wrote: > Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single?
I hate that too. I’d welcome those same people to have sex with me, or set me up with someone… KC
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But thats just it – it *isn’t* easy for every average guy to get a gf. Why do people just assume it is? I suppose they have no understanding or empathy of whats its like to be in this position. But I don’t know why it doesn’t occur to them that the guy may not be able to find anyone interested in him, due to no real "fault" of his own,other than being physically unappealing to women, not having any "game" or just not meeting anyone due to circumstance. I’ve learned female "friends" are the most unsympathetic and patronizing of all. Women have no respect or sympathy for single guys. If a guy doesn’t already have a gf she can steal him from he is worthless in her eyes. If hes single they think it must be by choice. I’ve had women that rejected me before tell me that they don’t understand why I don’t have a girlfriend. I don’t know what makes them think other women will react towards me any differently than they did…
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That’s because of "standards" in society, as I’m sure you’re already aware of. Typically, the guy initiates contact and is the initiator of relationships. I’d say, in general, the average guy, or even the below average looking guy is able to get a girlfriend. At least where I’m from, I’ve seen many many guys that I wouldn’t see as being able to get a girl, who have girlfriends and I know that’s no rarity. I don’t know a whole lot about women, but I do know there are a great many women out there who will give below average looking guiys a chance, if he were to ask them out and she felt they had a good personality. Just my observations. Joe <withdrawal_2…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118498263.873978.71390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Or behave towards him like its his "choice" he is single? At least > thats what I’ve always noticed, and have always been on the receiving > end of. Its not my fault I am intrinsically unattractive to women, that > I don’t have what they like in either the looks or personality area. I > constantly try to flirt and meet someone out there,but my 34 years on > this planet has shown that women just aren’t into me at all. I am > ashamed of it but what can I do? Why do "friends" (and their SOs) have > to make me feel like an outcast because of it? It takes two, I’m trying > to do my part. I think the problem is I seem normal in every other > respect so they wonder why I am not part of a couple like they are. > They don’t realize its not that easy for us unimpressive ordinary guys > out there…
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:57:37 -0400, "YooperBoyka" <cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote: >> But here is the double standard. You can find tools for female pleasure >> everywhere whereas Men have no place in a sex shop unless they are gay. >This is fuckin’ priceless. >You’re whining because they have better toys than you. ><shakes head> >I think that says it all. >Twenty bucks says it’s been your MO since you were 6.
LOL.. This reminds me… Several years ago I saw a late-nite TV program/documentary about sex. One of the segments concerned some small business out in (I think) California that custom-designed "female" dolls with built-in vibrating vaginas and other orifaces. These weren’t those blow-up things, but really snazzy-looking jobs. They looked (and reportedly *felt*) absolutely life-like… and were gorgeous. The thing is, though, they had a price tag that was pretty much the same as what you might pay for a decent automobile. <grin> Which is probably why this bozo is unaware of such things. Anything more than a centerfold is just outa his price range. rj Self knowlege is always bad news – Zorba the Greek
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"Rick S." <metok…@youtofindout.com> wrote in message
news:gHKqe.2915$Z44.1004@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "YooperBoyka" <cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote in message > news:ApCdnRpR0sLr9DbfRVn-tQ@comcast.com… >> "Rick S." <metok…@youtofindout.com> wrote in message >> news:pvGqe.2806$Z44.1460@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com… >>> "YooperBoyka" <cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote in message >>> news:brqdnQ8WOuLFrjbfRVn-uw@comcast.com… >>>> "Hardpan" <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1118513428.aef31655b80b87822bf0e3c646c196df@teranews… >>>>> On 11 Jun 2005 10:09:37 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>Hardpan wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:52:27 GMT, Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>>>>>> >On Women >>>>>>> >The nature of the female >>>>>>Schopenhauer is dead, dear, and women’s nature today is whatever SHE >>>>>>wants it to be. So, go back to your knothole. Just think, perhaps >>>>>>Schopenhauer used it before you. :-) >>>>> Your message is just dripping with hatred for Men, dear, but that’s >>>>> A-OK with me. <bg>. >>>>> No Man in his right mind would touch you with a ten foot pole, much >>>>> less his Johnson, is that what’s bothering you again, honey?. >>>>> Or did your vibrator quit on you again or, perhaps, are you just >>>>> having one of "those days" that only women have ? >>>> I don’t know about that, but it’s quite apparent that you’re having >>>> one of "those lives" that only genuine losers have. >>>> Passed over for the night manager’s job at the gas station? >>> And the White Knight comes riding in to save the damsel in distress. >>> Ah, chivalry. >> I don’t know her,…and I likely wouldn’t "save" her if I did. >> Still,…none of that has anything to do with you being a fuckin’ loser. >> Gas station was close, eh? >> Video store maybe? >> No,…I got it. >> Comic book store,… right? >> I’ll bet you even consider yourself an expert on "Battlestar Galactica". >> "DS9"? >> <gasp> >> Something slightly more esoteric???? >> Oh heavens,…I’m dealing with a Jedi Master, aren’t I? > Oh my…looks like this White Knight went off his meds again. > Overreact much?
Oh forgive me, my liege. I should have kept taking my Soma. I mean,…that’s how you got so brilliant, right? So,…when *does* your puberty kick in?
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Thank you very much for the very insightful article. It is interesting to note that the imminent Psychoanalyst, Sigmund Freud, agreed with Schopenhauer with regard to the lack of a sense of justice by women. Freud stated words to the effect that: "Women do not have nor can they develop a sense of justice. Rather, they make their decisions based upon feelings of hostility or affection." This same conclusion by Freud has angered feminists greatly. Female electoral representation, suffrage, would not be objectionalble if it assumed that women should have the same rights and responsibilities as men. Rather, women have demanded as a part of their electoral representation preferential rights, by law and custom, and significantly fewer duties, by law and custom, over men. The same implies the gradual deterioration of democratic republican values of individual liberties, republican government, and invididual rights along with the subjugation of men. The Orwellian Brave New World is Upon US!
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"GoddessBaybee" <goddessbay…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d8fph002lmn@drn.newsguy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <%bmqe.2133$pa3….@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Jim > says… >>An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>On Women >>The nature of the female > <snip> > Usenet is really interesting actually. > If someone dredged up something comparable written by a woman about men, > you guys would immediately discredit it as evil, hateful "fem-nazi > propaganda". > But when the tables are turned, some of you dudes out there just can’t see > the > parallel, and therefore you can’t see you are exactly what you claim to > hate. > It’s sad really. > Baybee
Do you believe in freedom of expression? There is nothing wrong with honest sexism. It is merely the acknowledgment of natural differences, and women are as entitled to their own sexist opinions as men are to theirs. You’ve read what Schopenhauer wrote. Now check out Andrea Dworkin or the SCUM Manifesto and get back to us. See the difference, or does it need to be spelled out for you? Rick
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:44:53 -0400, "YooperBoyka" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote: >> And the White Knight comes riding in to save the damsel in distress. Ah, >> chivalry. >I don’t know her,…and I likely wouldn’t "save" her if I did. >Still,…none of that has anything to do with you being a fuckin’ loser. >Gas station was close, eh? >Video store maybe? >No,…I got it. >Comic book store,… right? >I’ll bet you even consider yourself an expert on "Battlestar Galactica". >"DS9"? ><gasp> >Something slightly more esoteric???? >Oh heavens,…I’m dealing with a Jedi Master, aren’t I?
ROTFLMAO Hey Yoop! Dintcha know it’s not *nice* to rattle the cages in the monkey house? Watch yourself, or I’ll call the SPCA on you! rj Self knowlege is always bad news – Zorba the Greek
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"YooperBoyka" <cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote in message
news:ApCdnRpR0sLr9DbfRVn-tQ@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Rick S." <metok…@youtofindout.com> wrote in message > news:pvGqe.2806$Z44.1460@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com… >> "YooperBoyka" <cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote in message >> news:brqdnQ8WOuLFrjbfRVn-uw@comcast.com… >>> "Hardpan" <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:1118513428.aef31655b80b87822bf0e3c646c196df@teranews… >>>> On 11 Jun 2005 10:09:37 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>Hardpan wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:52:27 GMT, Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote: >>>>>> >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>>>>> >On Women >>>>>> >The nature of the female >>>>>Schopenhauer is dead, dear, and women’s nature today is whatever SHE >>>>>wants it to be. So, go back to your knothole. Just think, perhaps >>>>>Schopenhauer used it before you. :-) >>>> Your message is just dripping with hatred for Men, dear, but that’s >>>> A-OK with me. <bg>. >>>> No Man in his right mind would touch you with a ten foot pole, much >>>> less his Johnson, is that what’s bothering you again, honey?. >>>> Or did your vibrator quit on you again or, perhaps, are you just >>>> having one of "those days" that only women have ? >>> I don’t know about that, but it’s quite apparent that you’re having >>> one of "those lives" that only genuine losers have. >>> Passed over for the night manager’s job at the gas station? >> And the White Knight comes riding in to save the damsel in distress. Ah, >> chivalry. > I don’t know her,…and I likely wouldn’t "save" her if I did. > Still,…none of that has anything to do with you being a fuckin’ loser. > Gas station was close, eh? > Video store maybe? > No,…I got it. > Comic book store,… right? > I’ll bet you even consider yourself an expert on "Battlestar Galactica". > "DS9"? > <gasp> > Something slightly more esoteric???? > Oh heavens,…I’m dealing with a Jedi Master, aren’t I?
Oh my…looks like this White Knight went off his meds again. Overreact much?
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"Rick S." <metok…@youtofindout.com> wrote in message
news:pvGqe.2806$Z44.1460@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "YooperBoyka" <cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote in message > news:brqdnQ8WOuLFrjbfRVn-uw@comcast.com… >> "Hardpan" <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1118513428.aef31655b80b87822bf0e3c646c196df@teranews… >>> On 11 Jun 2005 10:09:37 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: >>>>Hardpan wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:52:27 GMT, Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote: >>>>> >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>>>> >On Women >>>>> >The nature of the female >>>>Schopenhauer is dead, dear, and women’s nature today is whatever SHE >>>>wants it to be. So, go back to your knothole. Just think, perhaps >>>>Schopenhauer used it before you. :-) >>> Your message is just dripping with hatred for Men, dear, but that’s >>> A-OK with me. <bg>. >>> No Man in his right mind would touch you with a ten foot pole, much >>> less his Johnson, is that what’s bothering you again, honey?. >>> Or did your vibrator quit on you again or, perhaps, are you just >>> having one of "those days" that only women have ? >> I don’t know about that, but it’s quite apparent that you’re having >> one of "those lives" that only genuine losers have. >> Passed over for the night manager’s job at the gas station? > And the White Knight comes riding in to save the damsel in distress. Ah, > chivalry.
I don’t know her,…and I likely wouldn’t "save" her if I did. Still,…none of that has anything to do with you being a fuckin’ loser. Gas station was close, eh? Video store maybe? No,…I got it. Comic book store,… right? I’ll bet you even consider yourself an expert on "Battlestar Galactica". "DS9"? <gasp> Something slightly more esoteric???? Oh heavens,…I’m dealing with a Jedi Master, aren’t I?
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"Troll" <tr…@master.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96734AFB8B22eh3du@localhost… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Xenos the Elder <as…@forit.net> wrote in news:PLHqe.4870$ac.1883 > @reader1.news.jippii.net: >> Troll wrote: >>> Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote in >>> news:%bmqe.2133$pa3.375@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: >>>>An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>>>On Women >>>>The nature of the female >>> Excellent philosophy all Men should abide to. No Man should ever marry >>> and give any rights to a female. >> But since gay marriage is now an option ………. >> The good guys can marry the good guys and the bad women the bad women. >> For those more interested in technical stuff: The first life size dolls >> are available in flesh like material. >> They can talk and vacuum clean. >> The hole for the intercourse is the same as for the vacuum cleaning. >> Remember to remove the dust bag before intercourse. > I am sure technology will allow every lonely man to have a woman > substitute he can fuck. After all, women are not useful for anything > else. > But here is the double standard. You can find tools for female pleasure > everywhere whereas Men have no place in a sex shop unless they are gay.
This is fuckin’ priceless. You’re whining because they have better toys than you. <shakes head> I think that says it all. Twenty bucks says it’s been your MO since you were 6.
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In article <%bmqe.2133$pa3….@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Jim says… >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >On Women >The nature of the female
<snip> Usenet is really interesting actually. If someone dredged up something comparable written by a woman about men, you guys would immediately discredit it as evil, hateful "fem-nazi propaganda". But when the tables are turned, some of you dudes out there just can’t see the parallel, and therefore you can’t see you are exactly what you claim to hate. It’s sad really. Baybee
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Troll wrote: > Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote in > news:%bmqe.2133$pa3.375@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: >>An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>On Women >>The nature of the female > Excellent philosophy all Men should abide to. No Man should ever marry > and give any rights to a female.
But since gay marriage is now an option ………. The good guys can marry the good guys and the bad women the bad women. For those more interested in technical stuff: The first life size dolls are available in flesh like material. They can talk and vacuum clean. The hole for the intercourse is the same as for the vacuum cleaning. Remember to remove the dust bag before intercourse.
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"Hardpan" <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iogma1tc669tkr9ifqd8ba6iht9a69jjje@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 11 Jun 2005 12:05:35 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: >>Hardpan wrote: >>> On 11 Jun 2005 10:09:37 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: >>> >Hardpan wrote: >>> >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:52:27 GMT, Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote: >>> >> >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>> >> >On Women >>> >> >The nature of the female >>> >Schopenhauer is dead, dear, and women’s nature today is whatever SHE >>> >wants it to be. So, go back to your knothole. Just think, perhaps >>> >Schopenhauer used it before you. :-) >>> Your message is just dripping with hatred for Men, dear, but that’s >>> A-OK with me. <bg>. >>Not at all, dear; my message is dripping with the cum of sexist men who >>went before you. They couldn’t find willing women either. > Charming, as always, aren’t you, dear ? > If the women were anything like you, then the fact that they were > "willing" was of no importance to any Man, just like your pathetic > attempts to defend the indefensible, that being feminism, of course.
I think Lowerditz has earned a new name. Let’s call her Spermburper.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hardpan wrote: > On 11 Jun 2005 12:05:35 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: > >Hardpan wrote: > >> On 11 Jun 2005 10:09:37 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: > >> >Hardpan wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:52:27 GMT, Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote: > >> >> >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay > >> >> >On Women > >> >> >The nature of the female > >> >Schopenhauer is dead, dear, and women’s nature today is whatever SHE > >> >wants it to be. So, go back to your knothole. Just think, perhaps > >> >Schopenhauer used it before you. :-) > >> Your message is just dripping with hatred for Men, dear, but that’s > >> A-OK with me. <bg>. > >Not at all, dear; my message is dripping with the cum of sexist men who > >went before you. They couldn’t find willing women either. > Charming, as always, aren’t you, dear ?
Why do you assume I have an obligation TO charm? > If the women were anything like you, then the fact that they were > "willing" was of no importance to any Man, just like your pathetic > attempts to defend the indefensible, that being feminism, of course.
Feminism simply is, whether or not you agree with it or want it defended. Think of it like a wave upon the sand; there’s nothing you can do to stop it.
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"YooperBoyka" <cj.don’tw…@no.spam> wrote in message
news:brqdnQ8WOuLFrjbfRVn-uw@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Hardpan" <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1118513428.aef31655b80b87822bf0e3c646c196df@teranews… >> On 11 Jun 2005 10:09:37 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: >>>Hardpan wrote: >>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:52:27 GMT, Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote: >>>> >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay >>>> >On Women >>>> >The nature of the female >>>Schopenhauer is dead, dear, and women’s nature today is whatever SHE >>>wants it to be. So, go back to your knothole. Just think, perhaps >>>Schopenhauer used it before you. :-) >> Your message is just dripping with hatred for Men, dear, but that’s >> A-OK with me. <bg>. >> No Man in his right mind would touch you with a ten foot pole, much >> less his Johnson, is that what’s bothering you again, honey?. >> Or did your vibrator quit on you again or, perhaps, are you just >> having one of "those days" that only women have ? > I don’t know about that, but it’s quite apparent that you’re having > one of "those lives" that only genuine losers have. > Passed over for the night manager’s job at the gas station?
And the White Knight comes riding in to save the damsel in distress. Ah, chivalry.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hardpan wrote: > On 11 Jun 2005 10:09:37 -0700, "Hyerdahl" <Hyerda…@aol.com> wrote: > >Hardpan wrote: > >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:52:27 GMT, Jim <Jim3…@naoyb.net> wrote: > >> >An abridged version of Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous essay > >> >On Women > >> >The nature of the female > >Schopenhauer is dead, dear, and women’s nature today is whatever SHE > >wants it to be. So, go back to your knothole. Just think, perhaps > >Schopenhauer used it before you. :-) > Your message is just dripping with hatred for Men, dear, but that’s > A-OK with me. <bg>.
Not at all, dear; my message is dripping with the cum of sexist men who went before you. They couldn’t find willing women either.
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"Nearl J Icarus" <dragw…@smacanoid.com> wrote in message news:OHwqe.47028$Fv.903@lakeread01… > and Rick S. made the comment… >>Expect to see a massive revival in the popularity of this great >>philosopher’s work. > Ain’t going to happen. Nietzsche shreaded any credability Schopenhauer > ever > had. Not to say that Arthur won’t feed a whole bunch of grumpy old men who > will be grasping at straws.
You seem just a wee bit confused. Nietzche held Schopenhauer in extremely high regard. And I suspect the
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Virgo wrote" > "My point with this was that the hot and > out of your league poster-girl for the "what goes around > comes around" philosophy seems mostly to me to be wishful > thinking, and sometimes outright misogynist rants, for > the posters in groups like a.s.s., soc.men, etc. And > note that I’m not really questioning whether it actually > happens as much as I’m questioning whether it’s actually > *witnessed* by any of the guys who post *in here*. "
I’ve actually met several women I once knew. In every case, they were still way better than "my league" as I understand the turn. I have remained near the absolute bottom of the sexual marketplace, near as I can tell. But these things are difficult to gauge. Coats
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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > I never saw who did it. > Maybe it was a girl, I don’t know.
Don’t get hims started on females! August Pamplona — The waterfall in Java is not wet. – omegazero2003 on m.f.w. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut Proud member of the reality-based community. The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.
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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > I was cycling the other night and this car pulled up alongside me and > this guy squirted this drink into my ear. The car then drove away. My > town is full of scummy people like this. It happens all the time.
OMG. Sometimes I believe I live in an idyllic paradise of culture and courtesy. You know what my husband complains about people doing to him when he’s on his bicycle? *Being overly polite*, to an inconvenient degree. You know, waving him on when he’d really rather wait, and etc. I admit this is a real problem here, people being so polite that it actually inconveniences you. In comparison to the rest of the world, though, it must be pure heaven. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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Troll wrote: > Dolores <weaselpant…@sinmonkey.com> wrote in >>White trash crank whores have to love somebody. > Didn’t you have your share of it?
I can’t say I’ve ever been with a white trash crank whore. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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Virgo Cluster writes: > Do any of you older guys > actually encounter this phenomenon (women who were > out of your league when you were young that are now > "beneath you"), or is this like a Usenet myth to you?
I’ve encountered many women like this, although I’m not sure what you mean by "older." — Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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** Mxsmanic ** >>> Some women do. You’ll be able to meet that woman >>> again when she’s 33, weatherbeaten, divorced with >>> three kids, and desperate for a man to put a roof >>> over her head.
** Virgo Cluster ** >> I hear this argument very often, but speaking for >> myself, I’ve had very little contact with women like >> this, especially this bad off at 33 (your description >> sounds more like a divorced jobless 40+ woman who never >> went to college). Also, the few times that I have, >> it’s never been anyone I actually knew 15+ years ago. >> But that’s probably just a result of where all my time >> is spent (alone in my office, at home, among college >> students, in university libraries, at the university’s >> gym, etc.) and the frequency of my moving from one place >> to another over the years. Do any of you older guys >> actually encounter this phenomenon (women who were >> out of your league when you were young that are now >> "beneath you"), or is this like a Usenet myth to you?
** Mxsmanic ** > I’ve encountered many women like this, although I’m > not sure what you mean by "older."
At the end I was talking about people that you (people reading my post in general) actually *knew* when you were younger. Also, I do see a fair number of women who have the look you (Mxsmanic) described, but my point (which was earlier in my comments above, and perhaps a bit implicit in those comments) was that the women of this type that I do see (e.g. picking up trash in the parking lot of a fast food restaurant) have the appearance to me of having never been "hot". Instead, they seem like the type of girl who grew up poor, dropped out of school, and were never popular or attractive within any of the various peer-groups while in school. When I said "older guys", I meant anyone old enough where this phenomenon (women that were out of your league when you were young who are now "beneath you") could theoretically be possible (probably 30+). The only reason I included "older" is that if a bunch of guys in their early to mid 20’s jumped in to say that they’ve never experienced this, it wouldn’t really mean all that much (to me, at least). I used the term "Usenet myth" as a play on the term "urban myth". My point with this was that the hot and out of your league poster-girl for the "what goes around comes around" philosophy seems mostly to me to be wishful thinking, and sometimes outright misogynist rants, for the posters in groups like a.s.s., soc.men, etc. And note that I’m not really questioning whether it actually happens as much as I’m questioning whether it’s actually *witnessed* by any of the guys who post *in here*. Virgo Cluster . "Stupid Education in the U.S.A. .. .. "Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach." Thus goes the .. the old saying. We take exception to this, as there are many .. fine teachers and other educators out there who are certainly .. doing a great deal — and a great deal of good. .. Of course, there’s a flip side to this … .. .. We Learn Faster Nowadays, So We Don’t Need to Go to .. School as Much … .. .. Educational Advances in Elite American Colleges .. .. 1914 1939 1964 1993 .. .. % of colleges with .. thesis required for .. graduation >50% >50% >50% 12%" .. << Kathryn Petras and Ross Petras, "Unusually Stupid .. Americans: A Compendium of All-American Stupidity", .. Villard Books, 2003, pp. 10 & 22 >>
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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > I was cycling the other night and this car pulled up alongside me and > this guy squirted this drink into my ear. The car then drove away. My > town is full of scummy people like this. It happens all the time.
Well, I’ll guarantee you that "scummy" guy gets more female attention than you ever will. Women love men like that. Thank you feminism …
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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > I was cycling the other night and this car pulled up alongside me and > this guy squirted this drink into my ear. The car then drove away. My > town is full of scummy people like this. It happens all the time.
Maybe if you guys were allowed to carry guns things like that would be less common. That kind of thing happens here in the US, but probably not as much. Do that kind of thing here and you might very well get a bullet in your skull. Which isn’t such a bad thing. I think all people like that should be shot.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Troll wrote: > Dolores <weaselpant…@sinmonkey.com> wrote in > news:r6CdnZSEyNnBR_PfRVn-qQ@comcast.com: >>ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: >>>I was cycling the other night and this car pulled up alongside me and >>>this guy squirted this drink into my ear. The car then drove away. My >>>town is full of scummy people like this. It happens all the time. >>OMG. >>Sometimes I believe I live in an idyllic paradise of culture and >>courtesy. >>You know what my husband complains about people doing to him when he’s >>on his bicycle? >>*Being overly polite*, to an inconvenient degree. You know, waving him >>on when he’d really rather wait, and etc. I admit this is a real >>problem here, people being so polite that it actually inconveniences >>you. In comparison to the rest of the world, though, it must be pure >>heaven. > Can such a place exist?
You should come check it out. Portland, Oregon, city proper, not the suburbs (which are frightening places to stay away from; they are a lot like how people describe the rest of the country.) There are rude people here too, of course; especially when people in SUV’s wander in from the suburbs and can’t deal with the narrow city lanes, and act like it’s your fault that they can’t stay in their lane, or won’t wait their turn at intersections, and also *several* times I’ve had cyclists pass me on the right when I was signalling to turn right. One of them even dinged her bell at me, which I thought was pretty damn nervy. OH, and there’s a revival church behind my house that plays their loud gospel music until ten pm, several nights a week. This is totally inconsiderate and uncalled-for in a family neighborhood. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Troll wrote: > Dolores <weaselpant…@sinmonkey.com> wrote in news:r6CdnZeEyNkaR_PfRVn- > q…@comcast.com: >>Troll wrote: >>>Dolores <weaselpant…@sinmonkey.com> wrote in >>>>White trash crank whores have to love somebody. >>>Didn’t you have your share of it? >>I can’t say I’ve ever been with a white trash crank whore. > Obviously you didn’t realize my point.
My share of love? Yes, I’m pretty lucky in that respect. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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Virgo Cluster writes: > At the end I was talking about people that you (people > reading my post in general) actually *knew* when you > were younger. Also, I do see a fair number of women who > have the look you (Mxsmanic) described, but my point > (which was earlier in my comments above, and perhaps > a bit implicit in those comments) was that the women > of this type that I do see (e.g. picking up trash in > the parking lot of a fast food restaurant) have the > appearance to me of having never been "hot". Instead, > they seem like the type of girl who grew up poor, > dropped out of school, and were never popular or > attractive within any of the various peer-groups > while in school.
Sometimes the women who look the most weatherbeaten at 30 or 40 were among the prettiest in school. They are fast-burning but short-lived. > I used the term "Usenet myth" as a play on the term > "urban myth". My point with this was that the hot and > out of your league poster-girl for the "what goes around > comes around" philosophy seems mostly to me to be wishful > thinking, and sometimes outright misogynist rants, for > the posters in groups like a.s.s., soc.men, etc.
That’s coincidence. There are grains of truth in their rants, just as there are grains of truth in most stereotypes. There really are female losers out there. > And note that I’m not really questioning whether it actually > happens as much as I’m questioning whether it’s actually > *witnessed* by any of the guys who post *in here*.
I’ve seen it, at least. — Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Pumpkinhead wrote: > This could have been nasty. I was out cycling tonight. I went down > a road that was a two way road but now it’s being narrowed and turned > into a one way road. I heard a car coming behind me so I made sure I > moved over so they could overtake me easily. Then they beeped. Then > they drove past me and beeped again and all gave me horrible looks. > They drove ahead but I accelerated to catch up with them. There was > a girl in the back seat. I stared at these people one at a time. > First I looked at the driver’s eyes in his rear-view mirror. Then I > looked at the girl in the back. She had her head turned looking > towards me. I reckon she would have loved to see the two guys in the > front beat me up. But I just continued staring at them making it > look as if I was amused. Then they got to a roundabout. I wanted to > go straight ahead but I predicted that they would turn left without > signalling and cut in front of me. I was right. Fortunately I’d > already got onto the pavement and waited for them to pass. Then they > looked at me, beeped and gave me more mocking looks as they slowly > drove past. The front passenger had a shaved head and he was smoking > a cigarette. I shouted, "What’s up?" and then I went a different > direction.
I like the way you handled it. I bet women love those guys. Not necessarily. They probably don’t see it quite the way you do, that’s all. Perhaps their having fun (driving round with the "main (Bernd, I wanna say "breker". Heh.) manne what count" aka MMWC) is just more important to them than how you might feel. (Another note to Bernd: I have a hectic story to tell you about this.) Just determine not to meet up with women with such a mission, that’s all. – Michaela — "It is the individual who is not interested in his fellow men who has the greatest difficulties in life and provides the greatest injury to others. It is from among such individuals that all human failures spring." ~ Alfred Adler
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I never saw who did it. Maybe it was a girl, I don’t know.
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Not all people are bad though. I remember about 7 years ago, I was cycling along and my front light slipped into my wheel. My bike stopped suddenly and I got thrown forward over the handlebars and I cracked my head against the road. These two cars behind me stopped and the drivers rushed over to me to see if I was okay. I had a cut on my head but otherwise I was fine. So that was nice of them to show concern. So you get good and bad people I guess.
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Someone dinged their bell at you ! LOL Sounds like you live in a nice place if that’s the worst thing that can happen. I often get people shouting nice things like "cunt" and "wanker" at me for no reason whatsoever. I remember when it was snowing and I was struggling to ride home, I passed these kids throwing snowballs. As I passed close to one, he hurled this snowball right at my head from only a few feet away and shouted; "Merry Christmas"
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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > Someone dinged their bell at you ! LOL > Sounds like you live in a nice place if that’s the worst thing that can > happen. > I often get people shouting nice things like "cunt" and "wanker" at me > for no reason whatsoever. > I remember when it was snowing and I was struggling to ride home, I > passed these kids throwing snowballs. As I passed close to one, he > hurled this snowball right at my head from only a few feet away and > shouted; "Merry Christmas"
I would have been tempted to stop and rub his face in the snow! What a little jerk! Bad things DO happen in Portland; lat year someone fired gunshots on my block, and though no one was hurt in that instance, there is crime and violence here. It’s just that in normal everyday interaction, people are pretty polite. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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ThePuttK…@msn.com wrote: > Not all people are bad though. > I remember about 7 years ago, I was cycling along and my front light > slipped into my wheel. My bike stopped suddenly and I got thrown > forward over the handlebars and I cracked my head against the road. > These two cars behind me stopped and the drivers rushed over to me to > see if I was okay. I had a cut on my head but otherwise I was fine. So > that was nice of them to show concern. > So you get good and bad people I guess.
I think that most people have the capacity to be pretty decent; it’s just that the ones who are assholes stand out so much more. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Troll wrote: > Dolores <weaselpant…@sinmonkey.com> wrote in news:JsidnSrk3pZLUPLfRVn- > i…@comcast.com: >>Troll wrote: >>>Dolores <weaselpant…@sinmonkey.com> wrote in > news:r6CdnZeEyNkaR_PfRVn- >>>q…@comcast.com: >>>>Troll wrote: >>>>>Dolores <weaselpant…@sinmonkey.com> wrote in >>>>>>White trash crank whores have to love somebody. >>>>>Didn’t you have your share of it? >>>>I can’t say I’ve ever been with a white trash crank whore. >>>Obviously you didn’t realize my point. >>My share of love? Yes, I’m pretty lucky in that respect. > I meant your share of love from scums and junkies.
My first husband was a former heroin addict, so in that sense, yes. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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This could have been nasty. I was out cycling tonight. I went down a road that was a two way road but now it’s being narrowed and turned into a one way road. I heard a car coming behind me so I made sure I moved over so they could overtake me easily. Then they beeped. Then they drove past me and beeped again and all gave me horrible looks. They drove ahead but I accelerated to catch up with them. There was a girl in the back seat. I stared at these people one at a time. First I looked at the driver’s eyes in his rear-view mirror. Then I looked at the girl in the back. She had her head turned looking towards me. I reckon she would have loved to see the two guys in the front beat me up. But I just continued staring at them making it look as if I was amused. Then they got to a roundabout. I wanted to go straight ahead but I predicted that they would turn left without signalling and cut in front of me. I was right. Fortunately I’d already got onto the pavement and waited for them to pass. Then they looked at me, beeped and gave me more mocking looks as they slowly drove past. The front passenger had a shaved head and he was smoking a cigarette. I shouted, "What’s up?" and then I went a different direction. I bet women love those guys.
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Alot of people don’t respect bicyclists – period. Bad boys or not.. I used to ride alot years ago and have had many close calls with people who are just jerks that went out of their way to be assholes. Driving real close then honking the horn. Doesn’t matter if you look nerdy or macho either… Piece of advice though, try to do your best not to challange people when you are on a bike because ultimately, they will win in a conflict. You could wind up dead.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Pumpkinhead wrote: > This could have been nasty. I was out cycling tonight. I went down a road > that was a two way road but now it’s being narrowed and turned into a one > way road. I heard a car coming behind me so I made sure I moved over so > they could overtake me easily. Then they beeped. Then they drove past me > and beeped again and all gave me horrible looks. They drove ahead but I > accelerated to catch up with them. There was a girl in the back seat. I > stared at these people one at a time. First I looked at the driver’s eyes > in his rear-view mirror. Then I looked at the girl in the back. She had > her head turned looking towards me. I reckon she would have loved to see > the two guys in the front beat me up. But I just continued staring at them > making it look as if I was amused. Then they got to a roundabout. I wanted > to go straight ahead but I predicted that they would turn left without > signalling and cut in front of me. I was right. Fortunately I’d already > got onto the pavement and waited for them to pass. Then they looked at me, > beeped and gave me more mocking looks as they slowly drove past. The front > passenger had a shaved head and he was smoking a cigarette. I shouted, > "What’s up?" and then I went a different direction. I bet women love those > guys.
White trash crank whores have to love somebody. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)
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Pumpkinhead writes: > The front > passenger had a shaved head and he was smoking a cigarette. I shouted, > "What’s up?" and then I went a different direction. I bet women love those > guys.
Some women do. You’ll be able to meet that woman again when she’s 33, weatherbeaten, divorced with three kids, and desperate for a man to put a roof over her head. — Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
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I was cycling the other night and this car pulled up alongside me and this guy squirted this drink into my ear. The car then drove away. My town is full of scummy people like this. It happens all the time.
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—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– Hash: SHA1 In article <79hr61ldrnbmfiuhp66ebvl9f75ekce…@4ax.com> Mxsmanic <mxsma…@hotmail.com> wrote: >Some women do. You’ll be able to meet that woman again when she’s 33, >weatherbeaten, divorced with three kids, and desperate for a man to put >a roof over her head.
And she’ll whine about how you’re so very judgemental for declining her availability and protesting that she has now "grown up". —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFCbmKw/FmLrNfLpjMRAtfzAKChTf6QjVTIS6zfebcHP2NEMtghLwCgnrF+ KKNLp9W2+2cmL78kY61dM5o= =15bt —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–
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** Pumpkinhead ** >> The front passenger had a shaved head and he was >> smoking a cigarette. I shouted, "What’s up?" and >> then I went a different direction. I bet women >> love those guys.
** Mxsmanic ** > Some women do. You’ll be able to meet that woman > again when she’s 33, weatherbeaten, divorced with > three kids, and desperate for a man to put a roof > over her head.
I hear this argument very often, but speaking for myself, I’ve had very little contact with women like this, especially this bad off at 33 (your description sounds more like a divorced jobless 40+ woman who never went to college). Also, the few times that I have, it’s never been anyone I actually knew 15+ years ago. But that’s probably just a result of where all my time is spent (alone in my office, at home, among college students, in university libraries, at the university’s gym, etc.) and the frequency of my moving from one place to another over the years. Do any of you older guys actually encounter this phenomenon (women who were out of your league when you were young that are now "beneath you"), or is this like a Usenet myth to you? Something interesting happened while I was in the middle of writing the above paragraph. I’ll explain below, but here’s an old post of mine that’s relevant for the explanation. I realize this old post deals with a completely different subject. However, it’s still roughly the same topic for me, namely how different my experiences and views can sometimes be from those of other people. ———— Virgo Cluster (September 7, 2002) ————- ** William Parker ** > I think the only time I would recommend this to someone > is if you don’t mind frightening someone, and she doesn’t > have any friends you know, because there’s a very good > chance she’ll consider you something of a stalker. (Which > you are, if it’s very clear that she’s not interested! And > if she hasn’t returned email or phone calls in more than > a few days, it’s clear! If not, she’ll let you know.) > Not that you should give a fuck what others think, just to > be careful of the real world problems involved (like her > telling her friends and you getting a reputation.)
I guess this is something we’re going to disagree with. Nothing you’ve said really makes sense in any experience that I’ve had (which isn’t saying much, I realize). If calls and e-mail are not returned in 3 or 4 days, I’d definitely wonder what was up and go see her, unless maybe the first date didn’t seem to go over very well and she didn’t seem enthusiastic about going out again. If I thought this AND I knew some of her friends, I’d probably go talk to them. Heck, I’d probably talk to her friends anyway. (Since I tend to go for the really shy and reclusive types, I guess I’m not used to dating a girl that actually had more than one or two friends, if that.) Phone calls and e-mail can lost. Someone (female), I have no idea who because they never leave their number, has been leaving messages on our answering machine for "Janet". Some of these are important, like the one I heard when I got home last night about some trip they had been planning for next week being cancelled. Since our answering machine has the manufacturer’s "Hello. Please leave your message at the tone." message, they aren’t alerted to the fact that they don’t have "Janet’s" machine. Also, I’ve been getting calls the past few weeks in my office from various companies for "Jason". Apparently, "Jason" works for some company in town and he was at a convention recently and somehow left my office number by mistake with a lot of the vendors. I got one of these calls for "Jason" earlier this week, in fact. As for e-mail, if you get a lot, it is easy to overlook a message (or put it off until later, and then forget you even got it) when you’re looking down through the ones that require immediate attention. (But I don’t think this is a good excuse. If you dated someone recently, surely an e-mail from them would stay in your consciousness while you took care of other things.) Maybe the e-mail delivery was delayed for some reason. One of the students I had in my class last Fall often didn’t get e-mails from me for several days after I sent them, nor did I get his for several days after he sent them. We never did figure out why. His was from a Yahoo account, but so were some other students in the class. Also, I had a student this summer who never got any e-mails from me when I e-mailed the class as a whole, but every time I e-mailed only him he would get the message. He came by my office and looked at the e-mail I’d been using in the class mailings and said it was correct. I even copied the address from one of his e-mails to me and pasted it into the class e-mail list (replacing the one I had been using with what appeared to be the same thing) and this didn’t help. ———————————————————– I just got a call from some company’s representative asking for "Jason". I told the guy what my phone number was and he said it’s the number he has, including the area code. Then I remembered about the calls I was getting back in Aug/Sept 2002, mentioned this fact, and the guy said the phone number was from a contact someone else in his company apparently had with someone in this area during that time. I still don’t know why this guy gave out my phone number. It could have been a mistake on "Jason’s" part. Or maybe I wound up getting "Jason’s" number when I made an office change a couple of years ago, although I believe the phone number went with me. (I kept the same number the next office change I made, which was in January 2004, but right now I can’t remember if this was the case for that earlier office change.) Anyway, there’s another reason I’m bringing this up, and this reason is a bit more off-topic from what I started with, but not for a.s.s. A lot of people in here say they have difficulty talking to people on the phone. I find this strange because _they_can’t_see_you_. I’ve posted several times about how I am on the phone, for example: ———— Virgo Cluster (November 12, 2002) ———— > I really really loathe the telephone.. There is nothing worse > to me than having to speak on one.. Its uncomfortable and i > dont get to pick up on body language at all .. I dont know > when its my cue to speak and often end up speaking at the > same time or sharing the uncomfortable silence.. ever heard > of comfortable silence on the phone? > Most times in real life i smile alot to kinda say "hey i am > not snubbing you ".. but on the telephone you can’t see a smile..
This is interesting because I would have thought those who have difficulty picking up on body language would love the telephone (IRC better, and e-mail better still). This may not be you (the not picking up body language very well), but it’s certainly a common theme in this group. I personally like talking on the phone a lot better than in person, especially if it’s a girl. On the phone, I don’t have any anxiety about physical appearance since the other person can’t see me. Also on the phone, I don’t have to worry about my profound remarks or my hilariously funny asides getting diluted in their reception due to the simultaneous visual input of a geeky nerd! Despite this, I don’t own a portable phone and I almost never (maybe once every two weeks, if even that) talk on the phone at home. Even in my office at work I’m probably on the phone less than 5 times a week on average. (I rarely get calls and I rarely have to make any.) ———————————————————– ———— Virgo Cluster (September 12, 2003) ———– My wife doesn’t like talking to strangers on the phone, so she hardly ever answers the phone until the answering machine picks up, while I’m the kind of person who’ll talk to a tele-marketer until they tell me they need to go. I talked with a Gateway computer guy on the phone several years ago for about 40 minutes. I called to get some information about laptop computers, current prices, and some other things but I wasn’t ready to order at that time. After about 15 minutes I asked him if he got any commission on sales and he said yes, so I told him that I wasn’t ready to buy something yet but when I was I would get it through him if he had a way for me to get back to him. He gave me his extension number, and I called him about a year later when I was ready to get a second computer. ———————————————————– Concerning the guy who called just now for "Jason", we spent nearly 30 minutes talking about the local economy, our state’s 8% unemployment, and the efforts towards shifting from a manufacturing-based economy to one that’s based on information technology, service jobs, and medical jobs (the last two being difficult to outsource to another country). Virgo Cluster . "Stupid Education in the U.S.A. .. .. "Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach." Thus goes the .. the old saying. We take exception to this, as there are many .. fine teachers and other educators out there who are certainly .. doing a great deal — and a great deal of good. .. Of course, there’s a flip side to this … .. .. We Learn Faster Nowadays, So We Don’t Need to Go to .. School as Much … .. .. Educational Advances in Elite American Colleges .. .. 1914 1939 1964 1993 .. .. % requiring literature 75% 50% 50% >1%" .. << Kathryn Petras and Ross Petras, "Unusually Stupid .. Americans: A Compendium of All-American Stupidity", .. Villard Books, 2003, pp. 10 & 22 >>
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