HARDANGER: Fave stitches?

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I have been wanting to expand my knowledge beyond the basics (by which I mean, woven bars w/picots, dove’s eyes, and corner dove’s eyes), so… What’s your favorite fancy hardanger filling stitch, and where did you learn it?

and in another post she said: I’d say start with a class, if you can–it’s very reassuring if somebody’s holding your hand when you make That First Cut. If you can’t get to a class, I’d recommend Janice Love’s _Basics and Beyond_. She did another one called _Fundamentals Made Fancy_, which I should probably get…but starting a new thread is more fun. ;-)

Well Anne you answered your own question :-)  I have recently done a heart shaped ornament for the Christmas tree.  In Basics and Beyond the section on eyelets has a heart shape to demonstrate the way to move around.  I did this, cut and withdrew the threads, and then wondered what to put in the resulting section, which is basically three squares across by two squares high.  The solution I came up with was the Greek crosses from Fundamentals Made Fancy, which I greatly enjoyed doing.   I used blue hardanger fabric, red perle for the Klosters and DMC Fils a Dentelles size 80 tatting cotton in red for the bars and crosses.  A nice bright colour scheme for Christmas. Steph Peters, Manchester, England Tatting, lace & stitching page http://www.cityscape.co.uk/users/bj64/ #cyclist on #stitch

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My favorite is to combine cut thread/drawn thread with hardanger to make new and intresting designs using woven bars.  On a square I may cut all the vertical threads leaving only the bars that run top to bottom to needle weave.  Or I may combinie Kloster bars to make shapes leaving only the threads running in one direction to be woven like a rug–of sorts.  Shading can be woven in to give the peice depth. It’s great fun comming up with new and different shapes and effects when you combine these two types of needlework. — Dorsey Please visit the Rainbow Connection http://home1.gte.net/victorei You’ll find Cross Stitch and Hardanger                     And Kevin Scott’s fanstic new Handi-Clamp Scroll frame – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My favorite Hardanger stitches are Edelweiss and Lacy Daisy. Ooh, almost forgot to add Blanket Stitch Flowers. The instructions for these can all be found in Janice Love’s _Fundamentals Made Fancy_, and are great fun to do. For beginners, if you can’t take a class, the next best thing is Janice Love’s _Basics and Beyond_. The instructions are very complete and easy to follow. The illustrations are excellent, and help quite a bit. I actually got started on hardanger by just following the directions in a magazine (I think in the now defunct Treasures in Needlework) for a hardanger suncatcher. Not a recommended way to begin, but it worked for me. I’ve been hooked ever since. Cindy Brown

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What’s your favorite fancy hardanger filling stitch, and where did you learn it?

My favorite, which has sort of become my trademark, is the Lacy Edge. I tend to  use it a lot and it is always pretty. What I don’t like is when someone asks  if I crochetted the edge. I learned it about 16 years ago from Ilse Altherr,  long before it became popular or appeared in any books, and I’ve been using it  ever since. Carolyn Boak

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I am wanting to learn how to do Hardanger.  Can someone please suggest a good book or pattern for beginners to start with? Thanks TigerEye

TigerEye, Nordic Needle has some good booklets that teach hardanger, that’s how I  learned.  It’s really not hard, but you may want to have a ‘practice’ piece  that you work on to get the hang of some of the stitches and the cutting as  well.  I love hardanger, am currently doing a table runner for my dining room  buffet, and Emie Bishops ‘Joy’ for Christmas.   Sarah Koehler / Ferndale WA

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Janice Love has two books that are excellent with clear instructions and diagrams. Nordic Needle has both. I don’t remember the title of the first, but the second is "Fundamentals Made Fancy." If you are new to hardanger, start with the first. I’ve not looked, but they may have them on their web site.

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Check Janet Love’s Fundamentals Made Fancy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I haven’t really been doing Hardanger long or often enough to have a favorite.  I enjoy doing wrapped bars, but my dove’s eyes leave something to be desired.  I’ve been warned about picots.  My Hardanger teacher said that she has never seen an explanation of how to do picots that made any sense to her.  Anybody have any hints?

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I second this: I have the first one (and I can’t remember the title–if anyone wants the title, I’ll pull it from my stash).  I’m very new to hardanger, but Janice Love’s books are wonderfully easy to follow (and best, whenever possible, she explains how to do it lefty!).   Janice Love has two books that are excellent with clear instructions and diagrams. Nordic Needle has both. I don’t remember the title of the first, but the second is "Fundamentals Made Fancy." If you are new to hardanger, start with the first. I’ve not looked, but they may have them on their web site.

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Janice Love has two books that are excellent with clear instructions and diagrams. Nordic Needle has both. I don’t remember the title of the first, but the second is "Fundamentals Made Fancy." If you are new to hardanger, start with the first. I’ve not looked, but they may have them on their web site.

The first is Hardanger Basics and Beyond. Barbara Current Projects: Miniature Reversible Sampler (class-only design from The Drawn Thread), Sampler Sewing Basket by Hillside Samplings, and Ukrainian Openwork (an EGA Group Correspondence Course).

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My favorite right now is the Greek Cross, although that may change soon.  I have a design which uses curled V in a fans as a ribbon type of stitch. This should look amazing. As for picots, I would try learning from someone who has a good technique and is willing to sit down and explain slowly.  Who knows, maybe Janice Love will get her video made while she is taking time off teaching.  I was lucky enough to learn picots from her in a class, and now I think I really kind of like them. Her "Basics and Beyond" is pretty clear, but this may be a bias from hving heard her explain in person. Kotchka (usual disclaimers apply) — *We* are the music makers   And We are the dreamers of dreams | | I have been wanting to expand my knowledge beyond the basics (by which I | mean, woven bars w/picots, dove’s eyes, and corner dove’s eyes), so… | | What’s your favorite fancy hardanger filling stitch, and where did you learn it? | | Just to start things off, I like woven bars with three-corner dove’s | eyes–they remind me of Gothic window traceries. The stitch I’m _dying_ to | try is the antique clover in "Walk the Gentle Path." | | AustinAnne | doodle cloth at the ready! ;-) | | I haven’t really been doing Hardanger long or often enough to have a | favorite.  I enjoy doing wrapped bars, but my dove’s eyes leave | something to be desired.  I’ve been warned about picots.  My Hardanger | teacher said that she has never seen an explanation of how to do picots | that made any sense to her.  Anybody have any hints? | | KAren E., Rochester, NY | "We did _not_ survive a NUCULAR war!  It was a NUCLEAR war!  A NUCLEAR | war!" |

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The first Janice Love book is "Basics and Beyond" and is a godsend! I second this: I have the first one (and I can’t remember the title–if anyone wants the title, I’ll pull it from my stash).   Janice Love has two books that are excellent with clear instructions and diagrams. Nordic Needle has both. I don’t remember the title of the first, but the second is "Fundamentals Made Fancy."

Jill in IL

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I think open vs. closed is a matter of personal choice. I think they look rather lacy, but… And I think Janice Love is the first to admit that her way of doing things is hers regardless of whether it is tradiotional or not. Kotchka "it doesn’t matter how you do it so long as you are consistant" — *We* are the music makers   And We are the dreamers of dreams | OK…here’s something about picots that I would bet is a personal | viewpoint. Janice Love recommends in her book "pop your picot" with a | pin to open them up. Personally, I find open picots ugly (IMHO), and | prefer mine to have more of a french knot look. But I wondered….what | do others do? Do you do as Janice, or do you leave them as is? (I’m not | looking to start an open picot vs. closed picot war…just wondering | what others do) | | Katherine | <snip

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Do you do as Janice, or do you leave them as is? (I’m not looking to start an open picot vs. closed picot war…just wondering what others do)

I’ve done them both ways.  Rae Iverson of Moss Creek Designs taught a class at SOXS-VF and according to her true Norwegian picots are closed. She said they should look like tiny mosquito bites on the sides of your woven bars.  Knowing how trying it can be to open those blasted things with pins, mine shall remain closed from henceforth.  :-) JoAnn

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OK…here’s something about picots that I would bet is a personal viewpoint. Janice Love recommends in her book "pop your picot" with a pin to open them up. Personally, I find open picots ugly (IMHO), and prefer mine to have more of a french knot look. But I wondered….what do others do? Do you do as Janice, or do you leave them as is? (I’m not looking to start an open picot vs. closed picot war…just wondering what others do) Katherine

I like the lacey way they look when they are open so I always open them up. But I absolutely HATE making them!. Donna — + Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the + + nonsense of those who think they talk sense.  + +          -Robert Frost                        +

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pretty! I really need to try a few of these out….. some of them look kind of scary though. Ellen Elliot Lake, Ontario A Jewel In The Wilderness – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s your favorite fancy hardanger filling stitch, and where did you learn it? My favorite, which has sort of become my trademark, is the Lacy Edge. I tend to use it a lot and it is always pretty.

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I attended a class held by Linda Driscoll at the Knoxville SOCS.  She gave us a tip on opening up picots that works almost like magic.  She takes and wets the tip of a pin with a frop of water and then inserts the pin in the center of the picot.  The water makes the picot open up and it looks like it has been blocked.  Linda is a great teacher if you don’t like to do picots.  She explains them so I can’t say I love to do them, but I don’t avoid them.  Leslie OK…here’s something about picots that I would bet is a personal viewpoint. Janice Love recommends in her book "pop your picot" with a pin to open them up. Personally, I find open picots ugly (IMHO), and prefer mine to have more of a french knot look. But I wondered….what do others do? Do you do as Janice, or do you leave them as is? (I’m not looking to start an open picot vs. closed picot war…just wondering what others do) Katherine

Leslie – Glen Ellyn, IL *****I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a door mat      Rebecca West 1913*****

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I attended a class held by Linda Driscoll at the Knoxville SOCS.  She gave us a tip on opening up picots that works almost like magic.  She takes and wets the tip of a pin with a frop of water and then inserts the pin in the center of the picot.  The water makes the picot open up and it looks like it has been blocked.  Linda is a great teacher if you don’t like to do picots.  She explains them so I can’t say I love to do them, but I don’t avoid them.  Leslie OK…here’s something about picots that I would bet is a personal viewpoint. Janice Love recommends in her book "pop your picot" with a pin to open them up. Personally, I find open picots ugly (IMHO), and prefer mine to have more of a french knot look. But I wondered….what do others do? Do you do as Janice, or do you leave them as is? (I’m not looking to start an open picot vs. closed picot war…just wondering what others do) Katherine Leslie – Glen Ellyn, IL *****I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a door mat      Rebecca West 1913*****

Hey, how do you get the water in the shape of a frop???????  ; ) Happy stitching…Marie K.

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I love the look of open picots, but hate doing them.  A local instructor only teaches them as french knots as she says they are too difficult to teach otherwise. After this project (with too many picots to count) will be looking for something without picots next time. For making my picots I place the needle in the hole and then tighten it. When I pull the needle back out…voila…consistant size holes (at least close enough to make me happy). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Personally, I find open picots ugly (IMHO), and prefer mine to have more of a french knot look. But I wondered….what do others do? Do you do as Janice, or do you leave them as is? (I’m not looking to start an open picot vs. closed picot war…just wondering what others do) Katherine I’m nearly through my very first doiley …. 125 dove’s eyes and 500 picots … if my math is right!  This was suppose to help me become more proficient … but noooo, …… I can’t seem to achieve any consistancy … oh well, I do think I will like the open picots better.  But I won’t know that for a long longggg time …. I’m not likely to start anything else with picots until the memory of this piece fades! :0

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I have been wanting to expand my knowledge beyond the basics (by which I mean, woven bars w/picots, dove’s eyes, and corner dove’s eyes), so… What’s your favorite fancy hardanger filling stitch, and where did you learn it? Just to start things off, I like woven bars with three-corner dove’s eyes–they remind me of Gothic window traceries. The stitch I’m _dying_ to try is the antique clover in "Walk the Gentle Path." AustinAnne doodle cloth at the ready! ;-) — Machine shared by Anne Gwin (agwin*AT*mail.utexas.edu) and Nyarlathotep (nyarlathotep*AT*mail.utexas.edu). Sometimes we forget to change the name on the post. "The little engine that could, did."–Rob Manning, Mars Pathfinder flight director, 7/4/97. <Discussing an image of a black rectangle silhouetted against the Martian landscape "That is the top of the calibration target, that is _not_ in fact a monolith."–NASA TV commentator, 7/5/97 "This life is slow suicide, unless you read." –Lt. Tom Keefer, The Caine Mutiny.

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In article I am wanting to learn how to do Hardanger.  Can someone please suggest a good book or pattern for beginners to start with?

I’d say start with a class, if you can–it’s very reassuring if somebody’s holding your hand when you make That First Cut. If you can’t get to a class, I’d recommend Janice Love’s _Basics and Beyond_. She did another one called _Fundamentals Made Fancy_, which I should probably get…but starting a new thread is more fun. ;-) AustinAnne — Machine shared by Anne Gwin (agwin*AT*mail.utexas.edu) and Nyarlathotep (nyarlathotep*AT*mail.utexas.edu). Sometimes we forget to change the name on the post. "The little engine that could, did."–Rob Manning, Mars Pathfinder flight director, 7/4/97. <Discussing an image of a black rectangle silhouetted against the Martian landscape "That is the top of the calibration target, that is _not_ in fact a monolith."–NASA TV commentator, 7/5/97 "This life is slow suicide, unless you read." –Lt. Tom Keefer, The Caine Mutiny.

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My favorite Hardanger stitches are Edelweiss and Lacy Daisy. Ooh, almost forgot to add Blanket Stitch Flowers. The instructions for these can all be found in Janice Love’s _Fundamentals Made Fancy_, and are great fun to do. For beginners, if you can’t take a class, the next best thing is Janice Love’s _Basics and Beyond_. The instructions are very complete and easy to follow. The illustrations are excellent, and help quite a bit. I actually got started on hardanger by just following the directions in a magazine (I think in the now defunct Treasures in Needlework) for a hardanger suncatcher. Not a recommended way to begin, but it worked for me. I’ve been hooked ever since. Cindy Brown

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