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In article <38305957.3D818…@england.com>, > What do you mean ‘What did she do?’, are you trying to say > she might have deserved it?  People like you make me sick. > Women have a very bad habit of going all hysterical.  They > start screaming and shit, but hey, men have to live it > you know what I mean.  It’s no excuse to give a satisfying > slap now and again, no matter what decibel she reaches. > So, there you have it, we don’t need a reason for his > action – his action was wrong, full damn stop.  And it’s > people like you that cause unrest.

If some woman screamed in my face, I’d slap her too and I am a woman. He simply lost his temper,in this case the woman must shed some of the responsibility .It is time women took control of themselves and that mean not "going hysterical".I resent that remark that because I am a woman it’s ok for me to go hysterical.If women want equality, then we are going to have to stop the stereotyping ourselves. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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Kimberlee baby wrote:

[snip] > To me, feminism (and I am a feminist) is about being treated with > respect and equality–not being a piece of chattel.  To me, feminism is > honoring men and honoring women.  What’s so hard about that?

I’m confused ….. who isn’t ‘honoring’ women these days? From what you say above, it seems to me that you are fighting an unnecessary cause.

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On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:54:39 +0000, Yns <lovelys…@england.com> wrote: >Kimberlee baby wrote: >[snip] >> To me, feminism (and I am a feminist) is about being treated with >> respect and equality–not being a piece of chattel.  To me, feminism is >> honoring men and honoring women.  What’s so hard about that? >I’m confused ….. who isn’t ‘honoring’ women these days? >From what you say above, it seems to me that you are >fighting an unnecessary cause.

At least all christians should honour women (look especially at verses from 18 and on): The Bible – King James version  Colossians 3 1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above,    where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also    appear with him in glory. 5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth;    fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence,    and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of    disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy,    filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with    his deeds; 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after      the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor      uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is      all, and in all. 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of      mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have      a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of      perfectness. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye      are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching      and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual      songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the      Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. 18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in      the Lord. 19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. 20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well      pleasing unto the Lord. 21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be      discouraged. 22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh;      not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart,       fearing God; 23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto      men; 24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the      inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ. 25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath      done: and there is no respect of persons. Rijk-Jan van Haaften

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You need God’s help.  YOU NEVER HIT A FEMALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  She may have made you ill but she didn’t deserve to be hit.  It takes a bigger man to walk away than to beat on his wife.  Your actions were very wrong and I am disappointed.

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I don’t want to lift heavy boxes; it hurts. I don’t hit my husband–nor do I want to be hit. Those things, to me, aren’t feminism. To me, feminism (and I am a feminist) is about being treated with respect and equality–not being a piece of chattel.  To me, feminism is honoring men and honoring women.  What’s so hard about that? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -livingaboard wrote: > I  thought   all the feminists  in here  have  a standard platform of > wanting equal treatment?     I  agree with that  100 percent.   I think they > should  also get the same amount of money at  work   when they do the same > job as men.   Lets start with the violence  thing.    I don’t think  people > should hit each other   but  if  a woman  hits me  ( I am male last time I > checked)  I  don’t care….I  treat them equal to a  man.    I would knock > em down   and if they  spit up some  teeth so be it.    That is equal > treatment.  I have never had  that happen to me though. >   At  the workplace  if    you are doing the same job as a  man  then  don’t > ask a  man to move something for you because it is too heavy or   ask  a > man to help you reach something   high off of a  shelf.     Don’t  take > days off of work or   miss work  because you have  PMS.    This is assuming > you want true equal treatment.     Also if you work make sure it is at least > forty  hours a  week  like most of us  males work.   No  part time  crap > because your  husband works. >  When it  comes to dating  you better start paying up.   I expect  a woman > to pay for half  the  events.   I never ask them to though. >   I am sure I could go on and on but I have some other stuff to do.    As > you can  see  in the aformentioned  text I don’t  believe that women  truly > want equal treatment.    Be careful what you ask for you might just get it. > Yns wrote in message <383A78FB.9C415…@england.com>… > >Laurie baby wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:13:46 -0800, ricard…@hotmail.com (ricardo > >> romero) wrote: > >> >Violence against women should be tolerated as long as violence against > men > >> >is tolerated. Sorry, girls, you can’t have it both ways… I mean, you > can’t > >> >have ONE way only: yours. > >This depends on who is doing the ‘violence’.  If a gal is > >smacking another gal, then although it is hilarious to watch, > >it should still be stopped.  If a man is smacking a gal then > >it adds a bit of bruteness to the situation that isn’t very > >amusing.  If a gal is smacking the hell outta another guy > >then, this can give you hours of ‘piss taking’ fun – especially > >if the guy is a close contact. > >So there you have it.

–  You’re getting old when…. …..you get the same sensation from a rocking chair that you once got from a roller coaster.

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Kimberlee wrote: > See attachment. >   ———————————————————————— >  [Image]

Please don’t post binaries to non-binaries groups.  Most especially don’t cross-post them to many different newsgroups.   They use a great deal of bandwidth and server space (that one using more than every other message in asdv on my server combined by a substantial amount).  And they do little to further the discussion. Take care, Blain — —————————-Blain Nelson——————————                     http://www.blainn.cc/abuse/ bl…@blainn.cc        ICQ:19857966        anon-20…@anon.twwells.com ————-Abuse is a choice, and it’s always wrong—————–

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:13:46 -0800, ricard…@hotmail.com (ricardo romero) wrote: >Violence against women should be tolerated as long as violence against men >is tolerated. Sorry, girls, you can’t have it both ways… I mean, you can’t >have ONE way only: yours.

Um, whose "way" are you talking about? Bear in mind that some women do not tolerate violence against men and that some men do tolerate violence against men. I don’t tolerate either. Laurie — Some people go to the snack bar — I go to the SNAFUBAR.

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Laurie baby wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:13:46 -0800, ricard…@hotmail.com (ricardo > romero) wrote: > >Violence against women should be tolerated as long as violence against men > >is tolerated. Sorry, girls, you can’t have it both ways… I mean, you can’t > >have ONE way only: yours.

This depends on who is doing the ‘violence’.  If a gal is smacking another gal, then although it is hilarious to watch, it should still be stopped.  If a man is smacking a gal then it adds a bit of bruteness to the situation that isn’t very amusing.  If a gal is smacking the hell outta another guy then, this can give you hours of ‘piss taking’ fun – especially if the guy is a close contact. So there you have it. > Um, whose "way" are you talking about? Bear in mind that some women do > not tolerate violence against men and that some men do tolerate > violence against men.

Don King, is one of those men. > I don’t tolerate either.

Can I tempt you to a spot of arm wrestling then?

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I  thought   all the feminists  in here  have  a standard platform of wanting equal treatment?     I  agree with that  100 percent.   I think they should  also get the same amount of money at  work   when they do the same job as men.   Lets start with the violence  thing.    I don’t think  people should hit each other   but  if  a woman  hits me  ( I am male last time I checked)  I  don’t care….I  treat them equal to a  man.    I would knock em down   and if they  spit up some  teeth so be it.    That is equal treatment.  I have never had  that happen to me though.   At  the workplace  if    you are doing the same job as a  man  then  don’t ask a  man to move something for you because it is too heavy or   ask  a man to help you reach something   high off of a  shelf.     Don’t  take days off of work or   miss work  because you have  PMS.    This is assuming you want true equal treatment.     Also if you work make sure it is at least forty  hours a  week  like most of us  males work.   No  part time  crap because your  husband works.  When it  comes to dating  you better start paying up.   I expect  a woman to pay for half  the  events.   I never ask them to though.   I am sure I could go on and on but I have some other stuff to do.    As you can  see  in the aformentioned  text I don’t  believe that women  truly want equal treatment.    Be careful what you ask for you might just get it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Yns wrote in message <383A78FB.9C415…@england.com>… >Laurie baby wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:13:46 -0800, ricard…@hotmail.com (ricardo >> romero) wrote: >> >Violence against women should be tolerated as long as violence against men >> >is tolerated. Sorry, girls, you can’t have it both ways… I mean, you can’t >> >have ONE way only: yours. >This depends on who is doing the ‘violence’.  If a gal is >smacking another gal, then although it is hilarious to watch, >it should still be stopped.  If a man is smacking a gal then >it adds a bit of bruteness to the situation that isn’t very >amusing.  If a gal is smacking the hell outta another guy >then, this can give you hours of ‘piss taking’ fun – especially >if the guy is a close contact. >So there you have it.

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sim…@mindspring.com wrote: >In article <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net>, >Nowhe…@aol.combine (Nowhere9) wrote:

[snipped David Moore's faux post] >Why?  What did she do?

Sorry to inform you David, but you fell for one of David Moore’s forgeries. The "nym.alias.net" gives it away.  That is a remailer that David Moore has used in the past, and seems to still be using. >If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.

Exactly.  That is why I am posting this while online — so no spell check — and so you can see my real headers.   . — "Every normal man must be tempted at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."    H. L. Mencken (as quoted by radio host Art Bell. http://www.artbell.com ) —

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In article <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net>,   Nowhe…@aol.combine (Nowhere9) wrote: > My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I > backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I > immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably > deserved it.

No matter what, NO ONE deserves physical violence.  I am sure you regret it, but what will stop your impulse next time?  GET YOURSELF INTO THERAPY NOW before you do anything else you regret. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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Christ…….. what were you thinking … a guy never ever ever hits a woman, no matter what the circumstances… beg/pray 4 forgiveness…. good luck U 2 …………….. lots of mending/healing to do……hope it can be a new start 4 u guys… Rob

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Deserved it?  My ass.  How about if you get in my face and I back hand you?  I hope you’ve decided to stay gone, or she decides that you shouldn’t come back.  I’ve been through allot with my wife and I have never, nor would I ever raise my hand to her.  She would never "deserve it". JB — "300 bucks a week.  That’s the news. For 300 bucks a week  I’ve worked in this sink, this used rubber." Nowhere9 <Nowhe…@aol.combine> wrote in article <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I > backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I > immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably > deserved it.

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In article <01bf2ffd$647b5960$ecd70b3f@default>, "Joe Banks" <joeseph_ba…@hotmail.com> wrote: > Deserved it?  My ass.  How about if you get in my face and I back > hand you?

get a life, JOEY > back.  I’ve been through allot with my wife and I have never, nor > would I > ever raise my hand to her.

Goody Goody for you, JOEY >She would never "deserve it"

Does this mean others won’t? Hello??? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably deserved it.

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In article <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net>, Nowhe…@aol.combine (Nowhere9) wrote: >My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I >backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I >immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably >deserved it.

Why?  What did she do? — If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate. David R. Boy Wonder

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I am waiting for the news article which says. My husband provoked me and plaid deaf so I raised my voice while standing in front of him.   Like all men he hit me, with the back of his hand.   Then ran off like a wimp he is.   He returned home claiming to be sorry.   Yes sorry so I backhanded him for talking in my face and wasting my time.   I was provoked as I did not sleep at all last night anyway he deserved it. Smile – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Nowhere9 wrote: > My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I > backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I > immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably > deserved it.

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Nowhere9 wrote: > My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I > backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I > immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably > deserved it.

Troll alert, davey boy using the remailers once again.

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In article <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net>, Nowhe…@aol.combine (Nowhere9) wrote: >My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I >backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I >immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably >deserved it.

your cross posting makes you a troll, and you are using an anonymous remailer. — My website: http://members.tripod.com/LanTheBoy Email: Anti-chaos. ICQ://26027485 Let the blight fall in…..

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animal_mag wrote: > In article <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net>, > Nowhe…@aol.combine (Nowhere9) wrote: > >My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I > >backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I > >immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably > >deserved it. > Why?  What did she do?

What do you mean ‘What did she do?’, are you trying to say she might have deserved it?  People like you make me sick. Women have a very bad habit of going all hysterical.  They start screaming and shit, but hey, men have to live it you know what I mean.  It’s no excuse to give a satisfying slap now and again, no matter what decibel she reaches. So, there you have it, we don’t need a reason for his action – his action was wrong, full damn stop.  And it’s people like you that cause unrest.

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:04:59 +0000, 96167698 <96167…@brookes.ac.uk> wrote: >I am waiting for the news article which says. >My husband provoked me and plaid deaf so I raised my voice while >standing in front of him.   Like all men he hit me, with the back of his >hand.   Then ran off like a wimp he is.   He returned home claiming to >be sorry.   Yes sorry so I backhanded him for talking in my face and >wasting my time.   I was provoked as I did not sleep at all last night >anyway he deserved it.

Why are you waiting?  There are articles more extreme than that, because they describe incidents in which the man did not hit the woman. A women in the UK boiled up some wax to 300C, went up to her sleeping husband and poured it over his groin, melting his genitals, abdomen and thighs.  He woke up to see his flesh dripping onto the bed.  He survived after intensive care.  He required months of reconstructive work and of course is permanently maimed.  The case attracted some attention.  Had she just broken a couple of his bones or something, it would have been ignored.  Anyway, he appeared on a debate show a while later.  Most of the audience laughed at him.  The first question the presenter asked him was whether he deserved it.  The woman who maimed him thought he deserved it. Please think honestly about this: was your first reaction to wonder what he had done to deserve it? >Smile >Nowhere9 wrote: >> My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I >> backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I >> immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably >> deserved it.

No she didn’t.  She was in your face screaming, so the most severe response you could justifiably make was to get in her face screaming. — This space intentionally left blank.

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I have an even better Fairy Tale.  The wife says: *My husband, he hit me.  He pull my hair.  He kick me.  He pinch my face. When he is sleep, I am afraid.  I cut off his penis.  I drive long time and throw it out car.   I am provoke, but sorry, and do not like go prison.* Um, wait… That really happened, didn’t it? 96167698 <96167…@brookes.ac.uk> wrote in message

news:38303D3B.C3344D65@brookes.ac.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am waiting for the news article which says. > My husband provoked me and plaid deaf so I raised my voice while > standing in front of him.   Like all men he hit me, with the back of his > hand.   Then ran off like a wimp he is.   He returned home claiming to > be sorry.   Yes sorry so I backhanded him for talking in my face and > wasting my time.   I was provoked as I did not sleep at all last night > anyway he deserved it. > Smile > Nowhere9 wrote: > > My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I > > backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I > > immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably > > deserved it.

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I support your backhanding your wife across the face. She deserved it, and I hope she learns the lesson. We live in a society that operates under a double standard: if your wife had done that to you, nobody would have raised an eyebrow. Even better, it would have been considered %2522funny,%2522 just like we routinely see it happening on just about every sitcom comedy in America, where the girlfriend/wife reacts with a slap on the man’s face every time he says something stupid or disrespectful.
Violence against women should be tolerated as long as violence against men is tolerated. Sorry, girls, you can’t have it both ways… I mean, you can’t have ONE way only: yours.    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?b ****-  Real Discussions for Real People

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David Moore using a remailer forged the following: > Nowhe…@aol.combine  (Nowhere9) >Date: Mon, 15 November 1999 11:43 AM EST >Message-id: <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net> >My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I >backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I >immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably >deserved it.

Please notice that the above post did not come from AOL.  The faux post came via nym.alias.net, and this is a known remailer that David Moore uses.  While I do not post in alt.support.marriage, nor do I even subscribe to this newsgroup,  I choose to write this thing online to show the users in this newsgroup what my real posts look like. Now, please notice the headers of this message.  You will notice that this message is coming from AOL, and from the REAL NoWhere9. Signed NoWhere9 . — "Every normal man must be tempted at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."    H. L. Mencken (as quoted by radio host Art Bell. http://www.artbell.com ) —

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Lan as…@zxcv.net  scribes: >In article <19991115164433.25699.qm…@nym.alias.net>, Nowhe…@aol.combine >(Nowhere9) wrote: >>My wife was in my face screaming at me last night….and I hit her.  I >>backhanded her across the face.  Then I turned around and left.  I >>immediately regretted what I had done…even though she probably >>deserved it. >your cross posting makes you a troll, and you are using an anonymous >remailer.

Thank you for noticing the headers.  The above quoted message did not come from me.  It is David Moore up to his old tricks.  With this post you will notice my real headers from AOL.  That is the one thing Davey boy can’t fake YET.  He comes close, but not enough. So goodbye to all the nice people here in alt.support.marriage!  I might subscribe to this newsgroup one day, but not now. Take care!! NoWhere9 — "Every normal man must be tempted at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."    H. L. Mencken (as quoted by radio host Art Bell. http://www.artbell.com ) —

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