Yosemite Park official resigns to protest Bush -Bush wants to build road through Smokies roadless area

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Boy that’s a real ego.. Glad to see your so impressed with yourself.. I doubt that many other are.. What an ass.. — Tight Lines Bill White / KM6SX "Fishing – Hours of boredom, with moments of intense insanity sprinkled in between" Remove " oon " from e-mail for address

| | <snip | | Well, it has to be said from time to time. Watching these muskie | spawned cross posted "debates" has got to be one of the cheapest and | most hilarious forms of entertainment available in today’s world. I | mean, where else can one find such an enormous number of congenital | idiots (as well as those who have willingly fried what little brains | they had through the ingestion of junk food and exhaust fumes) eager to | put themselves and their meager wits on display before a worldwide | audience for free? Where else can you find this many halfwits who | actually believe that their illiterate spew is not only going to | convince the halfwits on the other side (being of a naturally generous | disposition, I am willing to entertain the notion that some of them | actually have a glimmering concerning what issue is allegedly being | debated and that they have a clue about which side of the issue they | think they adhere to) and, incredibly, even a thinking person? | | Now, lest any of you delude yourselves into thinking that I’m talking | about the guy on the other side, let me be perfectly clear…..yes, he | IS an idiot…..but he is nowhere near as stupid and self deluded as | yourself. The only thing that prevents ANY of you from making | innumerable converts to your antagonists’ side is that they are just as | inept, inane, inscrutable, and insufferable as yourselves. Well, | actually, insufferable was a bit of hyperbole…..ya’ll are | excruciatingly funny. Usenet or, to be more accurate, the self | immolating nitwits who infest usenet, have accomplished the near miracle | of reviving humor from the comatose state which television brought it to | and made it sparkle anew. Frankly, I have a hard time understanding why | so many find this stuff offensive…….maybe they’d get it if it had a | laugh track or something. | | Anyway, didn’t mean to cause a major interruption in the evening’s | farce. Carry on. :) | | Wolfgang

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Boy that’s a real ego.. Glad to see your so impressed with yourself.. I doubt that many other are.. What an ass..

Best bit of paraphrasing I’ve seen today. Wolfgang carry on.

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"Fishing – Hours of boredom, with moments of intense insanity sprinkled in between"

Huh? And just when does the boredom start? Russell Dude, must not be a fferman.

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I’m glad to see that there are other out there that are just as sick of this "We know everything, because we are tree huggers" Bull Crap as I am.. These people are so full of themselves and their PC weird science that you can’t even enjoy going to these parks anymore.. They make you feel like you are some kind of pervert because you don’t see the same " Vision" that they have about nature and how we the little people should be allowed to enjoy it " per their rules". I’ve backpacked the Grand Canyon several times. Even spent my honeymoon their freezing our butts off on Sept 26, 1980 and you used to be able to enjoy it much more then because you could travel around at your own speed. Now the Nature Nazi’s have you on buses etc.. Let’s keep America first.. Most of these park have more Europeans in them then Americans.. If we are going to say no to someone.. Let it be them.. Thank You Soap box has now been returned to the garage.. =}8-)~ — Tight Lines Bill White / KM6SX "Fishing – Hours of boredom, with moments of intense insanity sprinkled in between" Remove " oon " from e-mail for address

| | | Some links about this if interested: | | http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/breaking_news/4215129.htm | http://www.ecomall.com/activism/sierra144.htm | | | –0-459238875-1036567907=:5810 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | | Yosemite park official resigns in protest | October 03, 2002: Another high-level government official is resigning | in | protest to the Bush administration’s environmental policies. The | superintendent of Yosemite National Park, David Mihalic, has opted to | retire | rather than accept a transfer to the Great Smoky Mountains | | No, he didn’t resign in protest. He RETIRED!!! If he had the courage of | his convictions he WOULD have resigned. | | I see no reason for him to sacrifice his retirement just to make the | point | that Bush is RED, not Green. | As we all know, the reason he left the NPS was because he was | unwilling to do Bush’s bidding. | And in fact, had he kissee axxes and do as they wanted, he would | clearly have got a larger retirement — so he did make a sacrifice. | | | | |

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protest to the Bush administration’s environmental policies. The superintendent of Yosemite National Park, David Mihalic, has opted to retire rather than accept a transfer to the Great Smoky Mountains No, he didn’t resign in protest. He RETIRED!!! If he had the courage of his convictions he WOULD have resigned. The meadow lands in question belonged to the Cherokee long before the GSMNP existed. They should have just a little piece of their lands back. — Dave

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And the whole north american continent belonged to native peoples. We should give that back, too, starting with YOUR land and home. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The meadow lands in question belonged to the Cherokee long before the GSMNP existed. They should have just a little piece of their lands back. — Dave

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some links about this if interested: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/breaking_news/4215129.htm http://www.ecomall.com/activism/sierra144.htm –0-459238875-1036567907=:5810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yosemite park official resigns in protest October 03, 2002: Another high-level government official is resigning in protest to the Bush administration’s environmental policies. The superintendent of Yosemite National Park, David Mihalic, has opted to retire rather than accept a transfer to the Great Smoky Mountains No, he didn’t resign in protest. He RETIRED!!! If he had the courage of his convictions he WOULD have resigned.

I see no reason for him to sacrifice his retirement just to make the point that Bush is RED, not Green. As we all know, the reason he left the NPS was because he was unwilling to do Bush’s bidding. And in fact, had he kissee axxes and do as they wanted, he would clearly have got a larger retirement — so he did make a sacrifice.

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Good, If you don’t want to do what your boss tells you, that just what someone should do. GET OUT — Tight Lines Bill White / KM6SX "Fishing – Hours of boredom, with moments of intense insanity sprinkled in between" Remove " oon " from e-mail for address

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<snip Well, it has to be said from time to time. Watching these muskie spawned cross posted "debates" has got to be one of the cheapest and most hilarious forms of entertainment available in today’s world. I mean, where else can one find such an enormous number of congenital idiots (as well as those who have willingly fried what little brains they had through the ingestion of junk food and exhaust fumes) eager to put themselves and their meager wits on display before a worldwide audience for free? Where else can you find this many halfwits who actually believe that their illiterate spew is not only going to convince the halfwits on the other side (being of a naturally generous disposition, I am willing to entertain the notion that some of them actually have a glimmering concerning what issue is allegedly being debated and that they have a clue about which side of the issue they think they adhere to) and, incredibly, even a thinking person? Now, lest any of you delude yourselves into thinking that I’m talking about the guy on the other side, let me be perfectly clear…..yes, he IS an idiot…..but he is nowhere near as stupid and self deluded as yourself. The only thing that prevents ANY of you from making innumerable converts to your antagonists’ side is that they are just as inept, inane, inscrutable, and insufferable as yourselves. Well, actually, insufferable was a bit of hyperbole…..ya’ll are excruciatingly funny. Usenet or, to be more accurate, the self immolating nitwits who infest usenet, have accomplished the near miracle of reviving humor from the comatose state which television brought it to and made it sparkle anew. Frankly, I have a hard time understanding why so many find this stuff offensive…….maybe they’d get it if it had a laugh track or something. Anyway, didn’t mean to cause a major interruption in the evening’s farce. Carry on. :) Wolfgang

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You obviously don’t have a clue how CSRS works. He was at the maximum. The most he could have gained would be next years COLA (1.5%) The National Park Service and USDA Forest Service have been infested with starry eyed tree hugging Bambini. It’s about time for a little balance with real science, not the pap being tossed about. National Parks are NOT wilderness areas. From the first one (Yellowstone) they have been created for maximum access and recreation. National Forests are NOT wilderness areas. They were created as MULTIPLE USE areas which include timber and recreation. If you desire them all to be wilderness areas, have the courage of your convictions and petition Congress to designate them so. One caution, though. Wilderness Areas should be exactly that. NO human access for any reason. No hiking. No study. No human access of any kind. — Dave

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No, he didn’t resign in protest. He RETIRED!!! If he had the courage of his convictions he WOULD have resigned. I see no reason for him to sacrifice his retirement just to make the point that Bush is RED, not Green. As we all know, the reason he left the NPS was because he was unwilling to do Bush’s bidding. And in fact, had he kissee axxes and do as they wanted, he would clearly have got a larger retirement — so he did make a sacrifice. You obviously don’t have a clue how CSRS works. He was at the maximum. The most he could have gained would be next years COLA (1.5%) The National Park Service and USDA Forest Service have been infested with starry eyed tree hugging Bambini. It’s about time for a little balance with real science, not the pap being tossed about. National Parks are NOT wilderness areas. From the first one (Yellowstone) they have been created for maximum access and recreation. National Forests are NOT wilderness areas. They were created as MULTIPLE USE areas which include timber and recreation. If you desire them all to be wilderness areas, have the courage of your convictions and petition Congress to designate them so. One caution, though. Wilderness Areas should be exactly that. NO human access for any reason. No hiking. No study. No human access of any kind. — Dave

So true about a ‘real’ Wilderness Area! I used to do mtn biking and some people stated that it was perfectly fine for hiking in a Wilderness Area, horse riding was fine too, but mtn biking MUST be off limits at any costs!! Huh????? (ex. Yellowstone, hiking,horsing ok, mtn biking not(except on roads), wierd logic in my opinion, a NP the size of a nation or state but no room for a biker, wolfs ok as well, just a inconsistent picture to me, btw it’s ok for thousands of acres to burn, but not biking!!) As far as upsetting the wildlife, hiking is the worse! Studys showed that beasties did not recognize mtn bikes as a threat (unlike hikers) so were at least theoretically less impacting to the beasties. I say, NO Human activity whatsoever in Wilderness Areas! If Man sticks his face in these in any fashion, Wilderness Areas they are not!

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How in the world is ‘running’ being courageous. If he truly felt it the ‘overall’ wrong thing to do, he would have stayed and fought it. Anyone, even screaming little girls, can run from a fight. Unfortunately, many of the ‘green’ people only think thru emotions and not facts and rational ‘real world’ thinking. Many ‘red’ people only think thru their wallets, who is correct? That’s the problem! The ‘regular’ people in this area are fairly poor, similar to any area with natural resources and little else, where some non green things will bring them a bit more money to live on (ex. Alaska). He would have had a somewhat a more visible position to fight his convictions. And besides, he may have not lose a single penny of his retirement income from the FedGov job (well maybe)!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some links about this if interested: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/breaking_news/4215129.htm http://www.ecomall.com/activism/sierra144.htm –0-459238875-1036567907=:5810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yosemite park official resigns in protest October 03, 2002: Another high-level government official is resigning in protest to the Bush administration’s environmental policies. The superintendent of Yosemite National Park, David Mihalic, has opted to retire rather than accept a transfer to the Great Smoky Mountains No, he didn’t resign in protest. He RETIRED!!! If he had the courage of his convictions he WOULD have resigned. I see no reason for him to sacrifice his retirement just to make the point that Bush is RED, not Green. As we all know, the reason he left the NPS was because he was unwilling to do Bush’s bidding. And in fact, had he kissee axxes and do as they wanted, he would clearly have got a larger retirement — so he did make a sacrifice.

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He would have received no larger retirement for the simple fact of relocating. He’s a federal government employee, probably covered by the older Civil Service Retirement System. He’ll get his retirement based on the pay of the highest position he held for three years of service. (Usually the last three) If he was going from a supervisor’s position to a supervisor’s in a lateral movement he wouldn’t have changed his pay grade, but he might have gotten a greater locality pay. Locality pay is not used to compute retirement benefits. If he was going to a higher pay grade he would get a higher retirement, based on his high three. One or two grades don’t make all that much difference in retirement benefits. It’s not like his life would have been all champaign and caviar had he taken the transfer. I’ve been under the CSRS now for thirty years, so I have some expertise in this subject. When you say he would have clearly got(ten) a larger retirement — You just show that you don’t know Jack, and are making up facts to fit your own prejudices. B*2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see no reason for him to sacrifice his retirement just to make the point that Bush is RED, not Green. As we all know, the reason he left the NPS was because he was unwilling to do Bush’s bidding. And in fact, had he kissee axxes and do as they wanted, he would clearly have got a larger retirement — so he did make a sacrifice.

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Some links about this if interested: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/breaking_news/4215129.htm http://www.ecomall.com/activism/sierra144.htm –0-459238875-1036567907=:5810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yosemite park official resigns in protest October 03, 2002: Another high-level government official is resigning in protest to the Bush administration’s environmental policies. The superintendent of Yosemite National Park, David Mihalic, has opted to retire rather than accept a transfer to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, where he says Bush officials wanted him to approve two environmentally harmful projects: building a 28-mile road through the largest undeveloped wilderness in the eastern United States and conducting a land swap that would allow a local Indian tribe to develop nearly 200 acres of meadowland located within the park. These two projects have fueled political controversy for decades but the agency has so far stood firm in its opposition. Now, with added pressure from local congressional representatives who have the backing of the Bush administration, NPS officials in Washington want a new superintendent to finally push the projects through. Mihalic, a career NPS official with 30 years experience,

decided to retire rather than reverse long-standing agency policy. "President Bush’s foreign policy motto — ‘If you’re not with us, you’re against us’ — seems to extend to federal environmental agencies as well," said Chuck Clusen, director of NRDC’s parks program. "This latest resignation proves that the administration is hell-bent on pleasing political benefactors at the expense of the public interest." Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs – Search new jobs daily now –0-459238875-1036567907=:5810 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <BYosemite park official resigns in protest</B<BR<IOctober

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