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How has September 11 affected you?

Question:

here here, it is easy to protest war when you are halfway across the world from anywhere that has been affected (New York, Afghanistan).  I do not agree with military action and I hated to see it happen, but we have lost thousands of innocent people. The troubling thought is that these maniacs didn’t care who they killed, it could have been me, the only person I ever offended was my next door neighbour for throwing parties every night when I was 16.  Anyone, no matter who could have been caught up in this (even my 2 and 5 year old daughters). These bastard terrorists have to be stopped and I don’t care by which means, push them out of the top floor window of a 100 story building whilst on fire for all I care. march on that you stupid wankers (don’t forget to cash your dole cheque first). I guess I have now offended a couple more people, please don’t march down my street.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gee, being the originator of this topic…all I asked was whether or not this date has had an impact on your clubbing (and I hope some of you can answer that question). But since we are on the topic and there are those of you that are against the war let’s emphasize…..NOBODY really wants to go to war.  And as much the Muslims have been maligned throughout history, does it give them the right to plow airplanes into buildings and kill over 6,000 people?? I am from New York City…when I drove into work that day, it was just like any typical day until I heard it on the news.  I knew people that were lost in this tragedy.  They certainly didn’t deserve to die. Would it have to take a plane to plow into your country’s prominent landmark for your government to take action and for you to be concerned that we are ALL in trouble by this? TONY SANTIAGO

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It seems no one understands tactics.  The bombings are directed at communications, military, and terrorist targets.  The point of the bombings is to disrupt communications and to hamper the ability of the Taliban to track the US, so that the United States may land ground troops to hunt down Bin Laden.  Unfortunately, as with every war, mistakes are made, and civillians die. And as for the terrorists being "terrorists" and not muslims?  I DO realize that the muslim faith is a peaceful one, and I do realize that these terrorists are not acting on behalf of the muslim faith, but remember when the united states first came up with the notion of retalitory attacks against Afghanistan?  Remember what the Taliban response was? Basically, they said "If the united states attacks us, they will be starting a holy war" How the hell is this a holy war?  someone attacks the US, they retaliate. it is THEM who started all this religion crap. 2 more of my cents. B

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gee, being the originator of this topic…all I asked was whether or not this date has had an impact on your clubbing (and I hope some of you can answer that question). But since we are on the topic and there are those of you that are against the war let’s emphasize…..NOBODY really wants to go to war. And as much the Muslims have been maligned throughout history, does it give them the right to plow airplanes into buildings and kill over 6,000 people?? Them? Are you trying to suggest it’s because they were muslims that the terrorists did this? Face it! This was done by *TERRORISTS* who just happen to be muslims. It has very little to do with the muslim faith itself. It has more to do with hatred than religion. It’s easy to misinterpret most religious texts (either deliberately or not) if a person wants to find things there to justify their own hatred. It’s up to the honest believer to de-bunk them. Unfortunately, this isn’t really happening. Is this the fault of the Muslim faith or the news media just not reporting it? I think the latter. I am from New York City…when I drove into work that day, it was just like any typical day until I heard it on the news.  I knew people that were lost in this tragedy.  They certainly didn’t deserve to die. Would it have to take a plane to plow into your country’s prominent landmark for your government to take action and for you to be concerned that we are ALL in trouble by this? Yes, we are in trouble. Yes, something needs to be done but bombing the fuck out of innocent people isn’t going to sort it out. In fact, all that’s going to do is give the extremists more ammunition to promote hatred and turn what people who probably didn’t give a shit about America a real reason to hate them. From what news I’ve heard most Afgans had never even heard of the twin towers before that event. What right has the American government got to fuck up their lives? What really scares me is the gun-ho attitude many Americans have. This is not a cowboy movie. You can’t shoot your way out of trouble in real life. All I see it doing is causing more problems around the Arab states. I can’t help thinking they are being led by the nose into one big fuck-off trap which will bring half the Arabs states into a war against America. Killing innocents to kill a murderer is murder itself IMO. Funny how many Amercians can’t accept the killing of American citizen but can of innocent foreigners. If you get a hostage situation in America, you don’t see the SWAT teams blazing in killing the hostages to get at the bad guys. Why is the situation different in this case? As to whether the events of sep 11 have changed my clubbing lifestyle. Nothing has changed. I refuse to let the terrorists change the way I lead my life. We’ve had the IRA bombing London for years. We’ve come to realise that what a terrorist wants is fear. Well fuck them. However, if there’s a decent dance event that promotes a better way to sort out the problems, then I’ll probably go. Can’t say that I’ll bother if the music isn’t my thing tho’. Statistics also show that it’s still incredibly unlikely to get involved in a terrorist act, even in New York. So, we should be concerned but not worried. We certainly shouldn’t panic into doing something stupid, which is what I think America is doing right now. | Dale Walker       London Techno Events   Saiko!           | | London, UK        london.sorted.org      saiko.sorted.org |

Response:

Sorry to correct you again Deejay – I’m actually with most of what you say, and I do agree that there is no proper evidence made public that connects the WTC strike to Al-Qaeda. In fact, even Nick Cohen in the Observer yesterday alluded to an FBI/CIA leak that shows that there’s very little evidence! It is quite possible that Mossad is involved, and it’s equally possible that CIA is involved – it would not be the first time that American people have died at their hands, while external forces get blamed. There are serious oil interests around Afghanistan and huge strategic interests too. But the story of Jews selling shares, or not turning up to work that day, are infact urban myths that have gone round the internet and they don’t hold up any more than the idea that the pilot’s passport was found in the wreckage (yeah, right) or that these highly organised fanatics made the mistake of leaving the airplane training manual and a Koran on the back seat of their car – (what’s this, a fucking Agatha Christie novel?). A note to dj-obiwan: I meant no offence to you! My point was that if facts aren’t correct, it gives ammunition to the assholes who think that this war is a good idea – your corrections seemed to be well meant and I was not referring to you as an asshole. Peace Rikki – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I hate the way everyone is "presuming" that a Muslim "terrorist" did this. Remember Oklahoma people? That was the arabs too, remember? Exactly. There is no evidence as to exactly who did this, but there are certainly many people who believe Mossad did this, why isn’t this investigated?. Bit strange how the Dow was about to collapse that same day, and why? Because prior knowledge? Like they claimed that Bin Laden was cashing in by buying certain shares? —

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Also, the united states gives Afghanistan $150,000,000/year in "humanitarian aid" which I almost guarantee is (partially or wholly) intercepted by the Taliban, and was/is used in an anti-american agenda.  Sick shit.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, it has oil, coal, semi-precious and precious stones, petrolium etc etc etc. And yes, the American’s put the taliban into power, they funded them (the powers that be before the Taliban which then became the Taliban) and continued to fund them throughout the 90’s. —

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I hate the way everyone is "presuming" that a Muslim "terrorist" did this. Remember Oklahoma people? That was the arabs too, remember? Exactly. There is no evidence as to exactly who did this, but there are certainly many people who believe Mossad did this, why isn’t this investigated?. Bit strange how the Dow was about to collapse that same day, and why? Because prior knowledge? Like they claimed that Bin Laden was cashing in by buying certain shares? —

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Gee, being the originator of this topic…all I asked was whether or not this date has had an impact on your clubbing (and I hope some of you can answer that question). But since we are on the topic and there are those of you that are against the war let’s emphasize…..NOBODY really wants to go to war.  And as much the Muslims have been maligned throughout history, does it give them the right to plow airplanes into buildings and kill over 6,000 people??   I am from New York City…when I drove into work that day, it was just like any typical day until I heard it on the news.  I knew people that were lost in this tragedy.  They certainly didn’t deserve to die. Would it have to take a plane to plow into your country’s prominent landmark for your government to take action and for you to be concerned that we are ALL in trouble by this? TONY SANTIAGO

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In my limited knowledge of world politics and issues, I have noticed one common factor in soooo many major conflicts, and that, my friends, is our great friend RELIGION.  Honestly.  So it may bring peace and happiness to billions of people worldwide, but is it really worth killing eachother for? I think it’s time the rest of society followed in my lead, and smoked themselves into a semi-conscious state on a daily basis.  Far less death. Far less hate.  Far more nachos. I mean really…  come on people… If bin laden (or whatever miscellaneous anti-us terrorist leader) had hit the bong 5-10 times a day for the last five years, he wouldn’t have had the energy/ambition to order a fuckin pizza, let alone organize the beginning of the end of history. my 2p B

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Afghanistan has oil ??!! This might be true but if it is I’ve never come across this before. India and Pakistan have been at each other since Pakistan came into being. "USA put the taliban in power" is a bit dodgy too….any facts here – you sure you’re not getting them mixed up with the mujahedeen ? Nick Well let’s look at the facts: USA put Sadaam Hussein in power, he didn’t play ball, they have a war with him. USA put the taliban in power, they didn’t play ball either, now look. What do these two countries have? Oil. Now Saudi are in the firing line too, they also have oil. India and Pakistan are alrready going all out in Kashmir. Pakistan were blackmailed into "following" the USA with sanctions lifted and monetary aid etc (just like most of the other countries "following" the USA). Where is the evidence Bin Laden actually done anything? Look at the last time when the American embassies were bombed, Sudan was hit with missiles (a medicine factory) by accident!. Israel are talking about assassinating Yasser Arrefat and his government, trying to declare a war on terrorism on them, despite the fact that Israel are the terrorists in this case. It’s a mess. The Jews need taught a lesson, they were always the ones going to start the next major war, their arrogance is beyond me (Oh no, I’m now an anti-semite) and I do not understand why they are supported when they are commiting attrocities (Arial Sharron has commited human rights attrocities when he was Defence Minister, strong evidence that he has killed 20,000 people in that time). It’s all a mess, and despite these governmnets saying it isn’t a war on Islam, I am sorry but it is. Anyone been thinking Mossad did September 11th? — Youre right. And protesting isnt going to change it. Its kind of like the mafia. Even if some (U.S.)politicians decided against the war, they would be obligated to support war by a variety if means. i.e. blackmail etc… There are so many angles to this, is anyone aware that India and Pakistan may go all out against each other while Israel eyes its own opportunity for carnage. And Bush is in China this very moment, talking trade (oil?). BTW They finished the million dollar audit on the election, (to find out who really won the State of Florida and the Presidential Election) and the media decided "It is a bad time to bring it up now because of the war."  Is this World War 3 and the death of Democracy?

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Cheers Rikki…. —

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Does clarifying the facts make me an asshole? WTF was thats supposed to mean?

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Hopefully to clear things up – I think I’m right in saying that the Caspian Sea is the huge oil reserve and pipelines across Afghanistan would bring billions of dollars of revenue to the US. Dick Cheney is a big player in the main company that would gain from this by the way! As far as US support for factions in Afghanistan, the fact is that the CIA helped to train and fund none other than Osama Bin Laden, and suggested that their fight against the Soviets was a jihad against infidels. It was very successful and managed to drive the Russians out. One other interesting fact – the US gave the Taliban $43,000,000 in May of THIS year supposedly as part of their war against drugs. Historically, there is a lot of evidence to demonstrate that the CIA are up to their eyeballs in drug smuggling. hope that helps – the gist of what DeeJay was saying was correct, but it’s important to be accurate with the facts so the assholes can’t get picky! What’s important in the end is that two bombs don’t make a right, and eye for an eye and the whole world will be blind, and you are either with peace or you are with the terrorists. ps I’ve just got back from a mass civil disobedience sit down in Whitehall today. We stopped the traffic for an hour and a half, and the march attracted 500 people despite torrential rain and cold winds. Watch out for the huge public rally in London on the 18th November – the last one attracted 50,000 – let’s make the next one a quarter of a million like the Italians managed last weekend. Peace Rikki www.aquasonicrecords.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I knew about the Americans ties with the mujahedeen but I wasn’t aware of any ties with the taliban as mentioned above. Or the oil thing – Funny how I haven’t seen one mention of any oil/minerals in anything I’ve read or seen about Afghanistan. It might be important for running pipelines through like you said but as far as what the guy above says – I’ll believe it when I hear anything else saying the same thing…unless of course he has got a link to back up what he’s saying ? Nick Its not true. I believe the oil is in Uzbekistan, and Afghanistan is needed to run a pipeline to a seaport. Or the pipeline could go to China. Americans did not put the Taliban in place.  Americans had covert ties to the Mujahideen in the Soviet war.

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Its not true. I believe the oil is in Uzbekistan, and Afghanistan is needed to run a pipeline to a seaport. Or the pipeline could go to China. Americans did not put the Taliban in place.  Americans had covert ties to the Mujahideen in the Soviet war.

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I knew about the Americans ties with the mujahedeen but I wasn’t aware of any ties with the taliban as mentioned above. Or the oil thing – Funny how I haven’t seen one mention of any oil/minerals in anything I’ve read or seen about Afghanistan. It might be important for running pipelines through like you said but as far as what the guy above says – I’ll believe it when I hear anything else saying the same thing…unless of course he has got a link to back up what he’s saying ? Nick

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Its not true. I believe the oil is in Uzbekistan, and Afghanistan is needed to run a pipeline to a seaport. Or the pipeline could go to China. Americans did not put the Taliban in place.  Americans had covert ties to the Mujahideen in the Soviet war.

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Yes, it has oil, coal, semi-precious and precious stones, petrolium etc etc etc. And yes, the American’s put the taliban into power, they funded them (the powers that be before the Taliban which then became the Taliban) and continued to fund them throughout the 90’s. —

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Afghanistan has oil ??!! This might be true but if it is I’ve never come across this before. India and Pakistan have been at each other since Pakistan came into being. "USA put the taliban in power" is a bit dodgy too….any facts here – you sure you’re not getting them mixed up with the mujahedeen ? Nick

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well let’s look at the facts: USA put Sadaam Hussein in power, he didn’t play ball, they have a war with him. USA put the taliban in power, they didn’t play ball either, now look. What do these two countries have? Oil. Now Saudi are in the firing line too, they also have oil. India and Pakistan are alrready going all out in Kashmir. Pakistan were blackmailed into "following" the USA with sanctions lifted and monetary aid etc (just like most of the other countries "following" the USA). Where is the evidence Bin Laden actually done anything? Look at the last time when the American embassies were bombed, Sudan was hit with missiles (a medicine factory) by accident!. Israel are talking about assassinating Yasser Arrefat and his government, trying to declare a war on terrorism on them, despite the fact that Israel are the terrorists in this case. It’s a mess. The Jews need taught a lesson, they were always the ones going to start the next major war, their arrogance is beyond me (Oh no, I’m now an anti-semite) and I do not understand why they are supported when they are commiting attrocities (Arial Sharron has commited human rights attrocities when he was Defence Minister, strong evidence that he has killed 20,000 people in that time). It’s all a mess, and despite these governmnets saying it isn’t a war on Islam, I am sorry but it is. Anyone been thinking Mossad did September 11th? — Youre right. And protesting isnt going to change it. Its kind of like the mafia. Even if some (U.S.)politicians decided against the war, they would be obligated to support war by a variety if means. i.e. blackmail etc… There are so many angles to this, is anyone aware that India and Pakistan may go all out against each other while Israel eyes its own opportunity for carnage. And Bush is in China this very moment, talking trade (oil?). BTW They finished the million dollar audit on the election, (to find out who really won the State of Florida and the Presidential Election) and the media decided "It is a bad time to bring it up now because of the war."  Is this World War 3 and the death of Democracy?

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Have to say it hasn’t really….bit scary coming back from Cyprus to the UK some 6 hours after the terrible events unfolded though… You could sense the relief onboard the plane when we were coming in to land. Nick

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We hear about the financial impacts of the travel industry (airlines, hotels, tourism, etc.)  But in regards to dance music, do you find yourself not going out to the clubs?  Do you find yourself buying more music?  Listening more to the radio?  Or do you go to the clubs more often to escape everything. I don’t know if the clubs are picking up business or not.  I write this because being in New York and a lot of the good underground clubs are in a three-mile radius from Ground Zero, I am wondering about the impact of how this tragedy affected how people are having fun. For those of you in Europe, please give your views on this.  Maybe some of you are cancelling that trip to Ibiza next year?  Perhaps you might not want to be in a public forum like Love Parade??  I’m just curious to see if and how much (or how little) the dance music fans have changed their thinking in light of this. TONY SANTIAGO

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The same loons that see what this is all about, WORLD DOMINATION and control of the oil. Bloody Yanks.

Yeah, it’s got nothing to do with the nearly 6,000 people killed at just before 9am because they went to work.  You ignorant fuck.

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Youre right. And protesting isnt going to change it. Its kind of like the mafia. Even if some (U.S.)politicians decided against the war, they would be obligated to support war by a variety if means. i.e. blackmail etc… There are so many angles to this, is anyone aware that India and Pakistan may go all out against each other while Israel eyes its own opportunity for carnage. And Bush is in China this very moment, talking trade (oil?). BTW They finished the million dollar audit on the election, (to find out who really won the State of Florida and the Presidential Election) and the media decided "It is a bad time to bring it up now because of the war."  Is this World War 3 and the death of Democracy?

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Well let’s look at the facts: USA put Sadaam Hussein in power, he didn’t play ball, they have a war with him. USA put the taliban in power, they didn’t play ball either, now look. What do these two countries have? Oil. Now Saudi are in the firing line too, they also have oil. India and Pakistan are alrready going all out in Kashmir. Pakistan were blackmailed into "following" the USA with sanctions lifted and monetary aid etc (just like most of the other countries "following" the USA). Where is the evidence Bin Laden actually done anything? Look at the last time when the American embassies were bombed, Sudan was hit with missiles (a medicine factory) by accident!. Israel are talking about assassinating Yasser Arrefat and his government, trying to declare a war on terrorism on them, despite the fact that Israel are the terrorists in this case. It’s a mess. The Jews need taught a lesson, they were always the ones going to start the next major war, their arrogance is beyond me (Oh no, I’m now an anti-semite) and I do not understand why they are supported when they are commiting attrocities (Arial Sharron has commited human rights attrocities when he was Defence Minister, strong evidence that he has killed 20,000 people in that time). It’s all a mess, and despite these governmnets saying it isn’t a war on Islam, I am sorry but it is. Anyone been thinking Mossad did September 11th? —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Youre right. And protesting isnt going to change it. Its kind of like the mafia. Even if some (U.S.)politicians decided against the war, they would be obligated to support war by a variety if means. i.e. blackmail etc… There are so many angles to this, is anyone aware that India and Pakistan may go all out against each other while Israel eyes its own opportunity for carnage. And Bush is in China this very moment, talking trade (oil?). BTW They finished the million dollar audit on the election, (to find out who really won the State of Florida and the Presidential Election) and the media decided "It is a bad time to bring it up now because of the war."  Is this World War 3 and the death of Democracy?

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Nice one Deejay – me too – I’m going to a mass civil disobedience sit-down tomorrow in Whitehall, and then there’s the next big rally in London on Sunday 18th – the last one pulled 30,000 people – considering the war had only been on a week, that was pretty good. Not a patch on the Italian Peruggia-Assissi march on 13th where a quarter of a million people marched for miles in protest! Trouble is, the media hardly reported it! I tend to go to Swerve, and I don’t think there’s been any difference there on a Wednesday night except maybe on the 12th it was a bit quiet. Peace Rikki "either you are with peace or you are with the terrorists" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The only thing that has changed here in London is me going on more demonstrations against this so-called "war". Clubbing wise it is the same. — I’m in Seattle, and I’ve found the events of the 11th gave me a kick in the butt to do things that are more important to me. I love music and dancing, so I have been going to clubs far more now than two months ago. I’ve also been more productive in my music making and going out to visit friends. Am I scared? Not really. Statistically, there are far more natural and accidental ways to pass away than get hit by an intentional attack. -Brian We hear about the financial impacts of the travel industry (airlines, hotels, tourism, etc.)  But in regards to dance music, do you find yourself not going out to the clubs?  Do you find yourself buying more music?  Listening more to the radio?  Or do you go to the clubs more often to escape everything. I don’t know if the clubs are picking up business or not.  I write this because being in New York and a lot of the good underground clubs are in a three-mile radius from Ground Zero, I am wondering about the impact of how this tragedy affected how people are having fun. For those of you in Europe, please give your views on this.  Maybe some of you are cancelling that trip to Ibiza next year?  Perhaps you might not want to be in a public forum like Love Parade??  I’m just curious to see if and how much (or how little) the dance music fans have changed their thinking in light of this. TONY SANTIAGO

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Sydney had protests, Athens, Glasgow and elsewhere around Britain, New York, Toronto, Milan, etc etc, like you say, this isn’t reported in the mainstream media, we are just a bunch of loons. The same loons that see what this is all about, WORLD DOMINATION and control of the oil. Bloody Yanks. —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nice one Deejay – me too – I’m going to a mass civil disobedience sit-down tomorrow in Whitehall, and then there’s the next big rally in London on Sunday 18th – the last one pulled 30,000 people – considering the war had only been on a week, that was pretty good. Not a patch on the Italian Peruggia-Assissi march on 13th where a quarter of a million people marched for miles in protest! Trouble is, the media hardly reported it! I tend to go to Swerve, and I don’t think there’s been any difference there on a Wednesday night except maybe on the 12th it was a bit quiet. Peace Rikki "either you are with peace or you are with the terrorists" The only thing that has changed here in London is me going on more demonstrations against this so-called "war". Clubbing wise it is the same. — I’m in Seattle, and I’ve found the events of the 11th gave me a kick in the butt to do things that are more important to me. I love music and dancing, so I have been going to clubs far more now than two months ago. I’ve also been more productive in my music making and going out to visit friends. Am I scared? Not really. Statistically, there are far more natural and accidental ways to pass away than get hit by an intentional attack. -Brian We hear about the financial impacts of the travel industry (airlines, hotels, tourism, etc.)  But in regards to dance music, do you find yourself not going out to the clubs?  Do you find yourself buying more music?  Listening more to the radio?  Or do you go to the clubs more often to escape everything. I don’t know if the clubs are picking up business or not.  I write this because being in New York and a lot of the good underground clubs are in a three-mile radius from Ground Zero, I am wondering about the impact of how this tragedy affected how people are having fun. For those of you in Europe, please give your views on this.  Maybe some of you are cancelling that trip to Ibiza next year?  Perhaps you might not want to be in a public forum like Love Parade??  I’m just curious to see if and how much (or how little) the dance music fans have changed their thinking in light of this. TONY SANTIAGO

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The only thing that has changed here in London is me going on more demonstrations against this so-called "war". Clubbing wise it is the same. — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m in Seattle, and I’ve found the events of the 11th gave me a kick in the butt to do things that are more important to me. I love music and dancing, so I have been going to clubs far more now than two months ago. I’ve also been more productive in my music making and going out to visit friends. Am I scared? Not really. Statistically, there are far more natural and accidental ways to pass away than get hit by an intentional attack. -Brian We hear about the financial impacts of the travel industry (airlines, hotels, tourism, etc.)  But in regards to dance music, do you find yourself not going out to the clubs?  Do you find yourself buying more music?  Listening more to the radio?  Or do you go to the clubs more often to escape everything. I don’t know if the clubs are picking up business or not.  I write this because being in New York and a lot of the good underground clubs are in a three-mile radius from Ground Zero, I am wondering about the impact of how this tragedy affected how people are having fun. For those of you in Europe, please give your views on this.  Maybe some of you are cancelling that trip to Ibiza next year?  Perhaps you might not want to be in a public forum like Love Parade??  I’m just curious to see if and how much (or how little) the dance music fans have changed their thinking in light of this. TONY SANTIAGO

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I’m in Seattle, and I’ve found the events of the 11th gave me a kick in the butt to do things that are more important to me. I love music and dancing, so I have been going to clubs far more now than two months ago. I’ve also been more productive in my music making and going out to visit friends. Am I scared? Not really. Statistically, there are far more natural and accidental ways to pass away than get hit by an intentional attack. -Brian

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We hear about the financial impacts of the travel industry (airlines, hotels, tourism, etc.)  But in regards to dance music, do you find yourself not going out to the clubs?  Do you find yourself buying more music?  Listening more to the radio?  Or do you go to the clubs more often to escape everything. I don’t know if the clubs are picking up business or not.  I write this because being in New York and a lot of the good underground clubs are in a three-mile radius from Ground Zero, I am wondering about the impact of how this tragedy affected how people are having fun. For those of you in Europe, please give your views on this.  Maybe some of you are cancelling that trip to Ibiza next year?  Perhaps you might not want to be in a public forum like Love Parade??  I’m just curious to see if and how much (or how little) the dance music fans have changed their thinking in light of this. TONY SANTIAGO

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I can tell you that I am a DJ in Washington DC, and tonight will be my first night working again in about two months (not because of the terrorism, I was just not DJing cuz I couldn’t get a gig).  I definitely haven’t been going clubbing as much because of all that has happened.  I have to say I am a little uneasy about working tonight too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We hear about the financial impacts of the travel industry (airlines, hotels, tourism, etc.)  But in regards to dance music, do you find yourself not going out to the clubs?  Do you find yourself buying more music?  Listening more to the radio?  Or do you go to the clubs more often to escape everything. I don’t know if the clubs are picking up business or not.  I write this because being in New York and a lot of the good underground clubs are in a three-mile radius from Ground Zero, I am wondering about the impact of how this tragedy affected how people are having fun. For those of you in Europe, please give your views on this.  Maybe some of you are cancelling that trip to Ibiza next year?  Perhaps you might not want to be in a public forum like Love Parade??  I’m just curious to see if and how much (or how little) the dance music fans have changed their thinking in light of this. TONY SANTIAGO

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We hear about the financial impacts of the travel industry (airlines, hotels, tourism, etc.)  But in regards to dance music, do you find yourself not going out to the clubs?  Do you find yourself buying more music?  Listening more to the radio?  Or do you go to the clubs more often to escape everything. I don’t know if the clubs are picking up business or not.  I write this because being in New York and a lot of the good underground clubs are in a three-mile radius from Ground Zero, I am wondering about the impact of how this tragedy affected how people are having fun. For those of you in Europe, please give your views on this.  Maybe some of you are cancelling that trip to Ibiza next year?  Perhaps you might not want to be in a public forum like Love Parade??  I’m just curious to see if and how much (or how little) the dance music fans have changed their thinking in light of this. TONY SANTIAGO

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