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Marlon Brando Changes Worlds

Question:

There is obviously a failure to communicate here. The phrase "changes worlds" means to pass from the physical world to the spirit world.  

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Please delete improper attributions from your quotes in future posts, as I did not write the following: No he did not change the world. He created the same world.

There is obviously a failure to communicate here. The phrase "changes worlds" means to pass from the physical world to the spirit world.   – - – - TODD TAMANEND CLARK   Poet/Composer/Multi-Instrumentalist/Cultural Historian Endorsement Artist For Moog Synthesizers   The Monongahela River, Turtle Island   http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ttc2   – - – - "Crazy Horse had the power to dream himself into the real world and leave the illusion behind."                         – - J.D. Blackfoot

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(snip for brevity – that’s a word, right?)  I belive it’s Marlon Brando’s fate that drove his life and destoying his family. His could be behaved like his father more than himself even though he was a famous actor. He had the chance to break away.

I just don’t know, Red C. That is all I am saying. I don’t know, and I don’t see how anyone else can know. "the chance to break away"… We all have chances to break away from something. Is that amazing Mr. Marlon Brando the very famous Hollywood Icon was no more different from a typical American family?

I don’t think he had the lifestyle of a typical American family, no. Yeah I’ve heard all these tragic thing in American family. I just read the local newspaper  a 14-years-boy killed his father, mother and sister with  .38 pistor. Forget about freedom, democracy or god bless America. Ask whatever happens to American family? I’ve no answer for that!

None of us does. Try Iraqi family where they are more tight and more harmonious and still live in traditional extend family.

Well… I understand what you are saying, but also I feel that it could be dangerous to let ourselves romanticize any people too much simply because they are living in their traditional ways. That is what happened here in ‘America’. And that is why there are stereotypes. Why is that American family is turned into so tragic drama? Whatever happened all the progress Americans claim to be made?  Marolon Brando  symbolizes the breakdown of American family.

Many families experience various forms of the same types of heartbreak. That is not judgement but the truth. That’s what I’ve been saying we are stay here we will poison ourself and will poison our children and our children of children. I believe it’s the fate of being American, and you can’t change that no matter how smart you are or how rich you are. As my guru said, it is like looking into mirror and seeing all the crap reflection on you.

Sometimes I get so tired of comparing all the peoples, all the ‘races’, all the cultures. Let the cultures be. Stop assimilating. Start respecting. It is simpler to just see that there are two ’species’. Male and Female. They need one another to survive. Without each other, there is no life. Simple. I don’t buy into that negative world view of seeing crap reflected, it is dehumanized. Although I don’t like to be around people much, every day I meet good people. I also meet people who are suffering in one way or another. Some have been abusive. Some have been abused. Some seem pretty dark, but they still have some little spark of light shining out. Nothing is very cut and dried for me, black and white. So it is crazy for me to try and debate this thing. I hope for a good journey for Marlon Brando, and that he is at peace in his spirit. That’s really all I can say. Donna

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No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation to Tahiti.

A real person with a real life. Suffered. Survived. Saw. Spoke out. Was his self. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let us drum and offer smoke to the seven directions in memoriam of the July 1, 2004 passing of actor and activist Marlon Brando, who did much to aid in the cause of Native American civil rights. In commemoration, here is a list of my favorite Marlon Brando films: 01. Viva Zapata (Elia Kazan, 1952) 02. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979) 03. The Fugitive Kind (Sidney Lumet, 1959) 04. On The Waterfront (Elia Kazan, 1954) 05. The Brave (Johnny Depp, 1997) 06. Burn (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1970 07. The Wild One (Laszlo Benedek, 1953) 08. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972) 09. One-Eyed Jacks (Marlon Brando, 1961) 10. Reflections In A Golden Eye (John Huston, 1967) 11. The Island Of Doctor Moreau (John Frankenheimer, 1997) 12. Candy (Christian Marquand, 1968) – - – - TODD TAMANEND CLARK Poet/Composer/Multi-Instrumentalist/Cultural Historian Endorsement Artist For Moog Synthesizers The Monongahela River, Turtle Island http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ttc2 – - – - "I’d rather die fighting on my feet than live the rest of my life on my knees."         – - Emiliano Zapata

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for  murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with  non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry  man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation  to Tahiti. A real person with a real life. Suffered. Survived. Saw. Spoke out. Was his self.   How could he be the real person? He is a hollywood actor. He ain’t no average   folk like me or worst. He is an elite with money and power. Thing bothering his life was   his family he came from. It’s like a ghost trying to destorying his life. The ghost driving his life to follow his father legacy. Therefore, his life was partly destoried. Can you see that? His children.  He destoried his children. He is mostly responsible for that. I’m not sure if he ever spoke out about his failing parenting or marriage. Why he married many times?  Sure because he got money and fame. Such an easy way to out his messy problem. Money can’t help some problems, don’t matter how much you have. I have a cousin, dirt poor, not even 40 yet, and she’s been married 9 times. NINE TIMES! That beats Elizabeth Taylor. She’s messed up, I think… but I’m sure money wouldn’t help. Her dad ran off when she was a baby. Her mom (my aunt) and stepdad later died in a car accident – which also put her in a body cast for a year or so – she was in the back seat and was the only one who came out alive. Who knows what the main cause was… of her turning out the way she did? Her older sister is fine. Her younger brother is fine. But she’s always in some kind of trouble. We still love her. What can I say? Things happen, and no one is perfect. Some families have cycles that keep going and going. It isn’t so easy to break the cycle. It isn’t so easy to be the ‘perfect parent’ or to not be influenced by your past experiences or your personality. I think Marlon Brando’s kids might have had a lot of things behind them – influencing them – besides their father’s past or even his wealth and fame. They also had to deal with the conflict between their mother’s side and their father’s side – both of those histories being contrasted internall. There is no way – even after hearing the children talk or seeing ‘interviews’ – that any outside viewer can really know the whole story or understand it. That is because they were real people regardless of what ‘we’ see. It’s so easy to judge… but why take the easy way? Donna

 I belive it’s Marlon Brando’s fate that drove his life and destoying his family. His could be behaved like his father more than himself even though he was a famous actor. He had the chance to break away. Is that amazing Mr. Marlon Brando the very famous Hollywood Icon was no more different from a typical American family?  Yeah I’ve heard all these tragic thing in American family. I just read the local newspaper  a 14-years-boy killed his father, mother and sister with  .38 pistor. Forget about freedom, democracy or god bless America. Ask whatever happens to American family? I’ve no answer for that! Try Iraqi family where they are more tight and more harmonious and still live in traditional extend family. Why is that American family is turned into so tragic drama? Whatever happened all the progress Americans claim to be made?  Marolon Brando  symbolizes the breakdown of American family. That is not judgement but the truth. That’s what I’ve been saying we are stay here we will poison ourself and will poison our children and our children of children. I believe it’s the fate of being American, and you can’t change that no matter how smart you are or how rich you are. As my guru said, it is like looking into mirror and seeing all the crap reflection on you.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation to Tahiti. A real person with a real life. Suffered. Survived. Saw. Spoke out. Was his self.

Well put. N“

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In commemoration, here is a list of my favorite Marlon Brando films: 01. Viva Zapata (Elia Kazan, 1952) 02. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979)

I’m less and less fond of htis one, which I saw in the Ziegfield in the 2d week of its release.  So much of the part with Brando’s Montagnard camp was so directly from the film of *Lord Jim*. 03. The Fugitive Kind (Sidney Lumet, 1959) 04. On The Waterfront (Elia Kazan, 1954)  

My favorite. 05. The Brave (Johnny Depp, 1997)

I want to see "The Brave" (haven’t) just because I like Johnny Depp AND I like Brando. 06. Burn (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1970

Hasn’t worn well. Fascinating project, but it didn’t hang together well, plus Brando’s presence turned this Cuban anti-Imperialist indie flick into something lopsided. Hard to appreciate the actor who played Jose Dolores with Brando dominating, yet the filmmaker wanted Jose Dolores to be the revolutionary hero. 07. The Wild One (Laszlo Benedek, 1953)  

I’m not a big Lee Marvin fan. 08. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)   09. One-Eyed Jacks (Marlon Brando, 1961)

Get up, ya big tubba guts !! 10. Reflections In A Golden Eye (John Huston, 1967)   11. The Island Of Doctor Moreau (John Frankenheimer, 1997) 12. Candy (Christian Marquand, 1968)

I like him in *Julius Caesar*, too. I like James Mason also in that, tho i like James Mason in anything. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — – - – TODD TAMANEND CLARK   Poet/Composer/Multi-Instrumentalist/Cultural Historian Endorsement Artist For Moog Synthesizers   The Monongahela River, Turtle Island   http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ttc2   – - – - "I’d rather die fighting on my feet than live the rest of my life on my knees."         – - Emiliano Zapata

Response:

He raised money for Leonard Peltier. he bailed on sacheen littlefeather.

Sacheen Littlefeather was a fake Indian who conned Marlon Brando.  In what way did he bail on her??

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He raised money for Leonard Peltier. he bailed on sacheen littlefeather. Sacheen Littlefeather was a fake Indian who conned Marlon Brando.  In what way did he bail on her??

From The News of the Odd website (http://www.newsoftheodd.com/article1027.html ): ‘The truth about Sacheen Littlefeather is more complex, though. While Hollywood might have questioned her qualifications, she is, in fact, Native American: part Apache, part Yaqui, part Pueblo and part Caucasian. "Littlefeather" is a name she used professionally, and still uses today. Her brief notoriety did result in a few film roles, and an appearance in Playboy, but her career did not last long. She has never given up her activism (indeed, she credits her mention of Wounded Knee with bringing her to the attention of the FBI, who she believes ended her film career). She promotes a number of Native American causes, encouraging Native Americans to work in Hollywood, fighting to combat alcoholism, obesity and diabetes among Native Americans, and caring for Native Americans with AIDS, her brother among them. She is also the coordinator of the Kateri Circle of the Archdiocese of San Francisco, which blends Native American spirituality with Catholic ritual, in honor of Kateri Tekakwitha, a 17th century Algonquin maiden beatified by Pope John Paul II. ‘Brando is uncomfortable talking about Sacheen Littlefeather, but she remembers him with some fondness. "He helped me to become an infamous person," she says. "It definitely put me on the map."’

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No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for  murdering.

Not so. Christian got out after about five years.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for  murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation to Tahiti. A real person with a real life. Suffered. Survived. Saw. Spoke out. Was his self.   How could he be the real person? He is a hollywood actor. He ain’t no average   folk like me or worst. He is an elite with money and power. Thing bothering his life was   his family he came from. It’s like a ghost trying to destorying his life. The ghost driving his life to follow his father legacy. Therefore, his life was partly destoried. Can you see that? His children.  He destoried his children. He is mostly responsible for that. I’m not sure if he ever spoke out about his failing parenting or marriage. Why he married many times?  Sure because he got money and fame. Such an easy way to out his messy problem.

Money can’t help some problems, don’t matter how much you have. I have a cousin, dirt poor, not even 40 yet, and she’s been married 9 times. NINE TIMES! That beats Elizabeth Taylor. She’s messed up, I think… but I’m sure money wouldn’t help. Her dad ran off when she was a baby. Her mom (my aunt) and stepdad later died in a car accident – which also put her in a body cast for a year or so – she was in the back seat and was the only one who came out alive. Who knows what the main cause was… of her turning out the way she did? Her older sister is fine. Her younger brother is fine. But she’s always in some kind of trouble. We still love her. What can I say? Things happen, and no one is perfect. Some families have cycles that keep going and going. It isn’t so easy to break the cycle. It isn’t so easy to be the ‘perfect parent’ or to not be influenced by your past experiences or your personality. I think Marlon Brando’s kids might have had a lot of things behind them – influencing them – besides their father’s past or even his wealth and fame. They also had to deal with the conflict between their mother’s side and their father’s side – both of those histories being contrasted internall. There is no way – even after hearing the children talk or seeing ‘interviews’ – that any outside viewer can really know the whole story or understand it. That is because they were real people regardless of what ‘we’ see. It’s so easy to judge… but why take the easy way? Donna

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He raised money for Leonard Peltier. he bailed on sacheen littlefeather. Sacheen Littlefeather was a fake Indian who conned Marlon Brando.  In what way did he bail on her??

fake, you mean maria cruz was  *made in taiwan* likea tourist rubber tommyhawk? or are you referring to blood quantum? from what i heard, ennyhoo, she got up and made a rejection speech for his *Holy Artsy Fart Tubbyness* and he basically stood back and did nothing when hollyweird blackballed her, you know, like a chickenshit hiding behind his mommy’s skirt. perhaps i heard wrong though.  *shrugs*

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for  murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation to Tahiti. A real person with a real life. Suffered. Survived. Saw. Spoke out. Was his self.

  How could he be the real person? He is a hollywood actor. He ain’t no average   folk like me or worst. He is an elite with money and power. Thing bothering his life was   his family he came from. It’s like a ghost trying to destorying his life. The ghost driving his life to follow his father legacy. Therefore, his life was partly destoried. Can you see that? His children.  He destoried his children. He is mostly responsible for that. I’m not sure if he ever spoke out about his failing parenting or marriage. Why he married many times?  Sure because he got money and fame. Such an easy way to out his messy problem.

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He raised money for Leonard Peltier.

he bailed on sacheen littlefeather.

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No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation to Tahiti. He raised money for Leonard Peltier.

Aloha All, My hope in the SPIRIT of ALL who have made sacrifices beyond for what is a brighter better future for the least counted or smallest voice in this great land IN THE SPIRIT OF ALL NATIONS! Brando DID SACRIFICE plenty and suffered greatly as a fool and as a father serviver of plenty all can relate too "in the spirit of "all relations" I sat at a little kitchen tble with a woman who spoke highly of Marlon Brando and his comitmient to Civil Rights and what WE ALL CAN DO to help creeate awearn3esses where there was at the time "the 70′’s" hardly a voice more abled.Sat at the same table next to Another famouse Actor of the time Jane Fonda! It’s a humbleing experience truly to realize the same table,same kitchen! Both made promesess! BOTH made Promises to make a way a doffrenence and create Great posotive voices for OUR FUTURES! Brando MADE THE SACRIFICES as an Actor plenty, more over helped to inspire Activism in an Industry that TODAY is influence and cannot even "Play" ingorant! NO Saint was Brando, he was a man with a burning conciance and the passion to inspire even himself to do! and perhaps even be a better humanbean not just man or father or the basics. Personaly,remembering the guy and the work he tried to accomplesh outside of the glare of etc’s etc’s and bullshit so ‘on etc…. LOL! In the SPIRIT Of Crazy Horse Howl’n!!!!! Howl’n in the Spirit F’n indeed!< BTW On Larry King live Brando DID get away with say’n the "fucck" word! LOL!!!!! Holw’n LOL! HA how’s that for P Freek’n C! Ohhhhh My! OOOhhhh mmmmyyeeee!!! That’s funny Much Aloha’s to Brando…Lisa D….

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No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation to Tahiti.

He raised money for Leonard Peltier.

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No he did not change the world. He created the same world. Marlon Brando came from very bad family. His parent were alcholic. So his childhood was bad. And he created same bad childhood for his children. His son Christian is in jail for serving life sentence for murdering. His daughter was suicided.  He has many relationship mostly with non-white women. I don’t think he was good father, a sort of bitter and angry man despite being famous movie star, and what is this thing about helping out Native movement. I thought his helping was about taking vacation to Tahiti. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let us drum and offer smoke to the seven directions in memoriam of the July 1, 2004 passing of actor and activist Marlon Brando, who did much to aid in the cause of Native American civil rights.   In commemoration, here is a list of my favorite Marlon Brando films: 01. Viva Zapata (Elia Kazan, 1952) 02. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979) 03. The Fugitive Kind (Sidney Lumet, 1959) 04. On The Waterfront (Elia Kazan, 1954)   05. The Brave (Johnny Depp, 1997)   06. Burn (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1970 07. The Wild One (Laszlo Benedek, 1953)   08. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)   09. One-Eyed Jacks (Marlon Brando, 1961) 10. Reflections In A Golden Eye (John Huston, 1967)   11. The Island Of Doctor Moreau (John Frankenheimer, 1997) 12. Candy (Christian Marquand, 1968) – - – - TODD TAMANEND CLARK   Poet/Composer/Multi-Instrumentalist/Cultural Historian Endorsement Artist For Moog Synthesizers   The Monongahela River, Turtle Island   http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ttc2   – - – - "I’d rather die fighting on my feet than live the rest of my life on my knees."         – - Emiliano Zapata

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Let us drum and offer smoke to the seven directions in memoriam of the July 1, 2004 passing of actor and activist Marlon Brando, who did much to aid in the cause of Native American civil rights.   In commemoration, here is a list of my favorite Marlon Brando films: 01. Viva Zapata (Elia Kazan, 1952) 02. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979) 03. The Fugitive Kind (Sidney Lumet, 1959) 04. On The Waterfront (Elia Kazan, 1954)   05. The Brave (Johnny Depp, 1997)   06. Burn (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1970 07. The Wild One (Laszlo Benedek, 1953)   08. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)   09. One-Eyed Jacks (Marlon Brando, 1961) 10. Reflections In A Golden Eye (John Huston, 1967)   11. The Island Of Doctor Moreau (John Frankenheimer, 1997) 12. Candy (Christian Marquand, 1968) – - – - TODD TAMANEND CLARK   Poet/Composer/Multi-Instrumentalist/Cultural Historian Endorsement Artist For Moog Synthesizers   The Monongahela River, Turtle Island   http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ttc2   – - – - "I’d rather die fighting on my feet than live the rest of my life on my knees."         – - Emiliano Zapata

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