Missing the point on Microsoft

Question:

I have not commented on your devine right. Chip

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Except in your case that divine right ends if I happen to be female! Left – divine right of kings. Right – divine right of the individual. Chip The left has always been deferential to king, emperor, pharoah, fuhrer or dictator of course. So flexible, as long as it’s government. Chip Pharaoh — appointed by God, certainly not a creation of far left ideologies. King — successor by birthright, from the aristocracy, historically (esp.. English) favored wealthy landowners, certainly not representative of the left. Emperor — Very similar to king, in that the wealthy were favored. Again, not representative of a left wing point of view. Fuhrer — Adolf Hitler — a product of extreme right wing philosophies.

Response:

Now I will comment. Jenn: From this day forward you are hereby forbidden to vote in political elections unless well consulted and given written permission by a well informed adult male of reasonable character. Chip

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Except in your case that divine right ends if I happen to be female! Left – divine right of kings. Right – divine right of the individual. Chip The left has always been deferential to king, emperor, pharoah, fuhrer or dictator of course. So flexible, as long as it’s government. Chip Pharaoh — appointed by God, certainly not a creation of far left ideologies. King — successor by birthright, from the aristocracy, historically (esp.. English) favored wealthy landowners, certainly not representative of the left. Emperor — Very similar to king, in that the wealthy were favored. Again, not representative of a left wing point of view. Fuhrer — Adolf Hitler — a product of extreme right wing philosophies.

Response:

Of course, if the idea in mind is to limit freedom and the tool is government. That is leftist.

No, that’s authoritarianism.  Unless you’re going to claim that, for example, Louis XIV was a "leftist." — Patrick Crotty e-mail:  prcrotty at midway.uchicago.edu home page:  http://home.uchicago.edu/~prcrotty

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Never met a control freak I liked, which was not a trait much liked by my mother or my ex. with regard to, for example: church going. I’d go, but I’d always bring a book. My ex was catholic, it was almost revolutionary, from the looks I’d get, to read a bible in a catholic mass.What to do though, catholic rites are boring as anything in life. The priests are usually not really offensive though.

Thats the funny thing about the Catholic church to me.  I’m by no means an expert on it, but it certainly seems as though it has done its share of political manipulation through the ages. The really offensive bible thumpers are mainly midwestern protestant denominations. Real personality cult types, control freaks of high order. Funny as hell, to those not too patient with leadership types, and I’m always amazed that people take these geeks seriously. I’m equally amazed folks adore Clinton, who’s as phoney as any smiling cult type bible thumper, to my radar.

Television’s an amazing thing when you spoon feed it to the masses….

Response:

Patrick: Yes that is leftist. Yes that is authoritarianism. Yes the little Louis XIV was a leftist. Now for the farthest extreme in the opposite direction, the right wing tip: ANARCHY! A nice friendly uncoercive place, bereft of bureaucrats, lawyers and sleazy politicians. Chip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Of course, if the idea in mind is to limit freedom and the tool is government. That is leftist. No, that’s authoritarianism.  Unless you’re going to claim that, for example, Louis XIV was a "leftist." — Patrick Crotty e-mail:  prcrotty at midway.uchicago.edu home page:  http://home.uchicago.edu/~prcrotty

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"Thats the funny thing about the Catholic church to me.  I’m by no means an expert on it, but it certainly seems as though it has done its share of political manipulation through the ages." Power is such a corrupting influence. Give someone the authority to do so, and that someone will do so, do so, . . . . End authority. This will eliminate everything but freedom. Chip

Response:

Except in your case that divine right ends if I happen to be female!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Left – divine right of kings. Right – divine right of the individual. Chip The left has always been deferential to king, emperor, pharoah, fuhrer or dictator of course. So flexible, as long as it’s government. Chip Pharaoh — appointed by God, certainly not a creation of far left ideologies. King — successor by birthright, from the aristocracy, historically (esp.. English) favored wealthy landowners, certainly not representative of the left. Emperor — Very similar to king, in that the wealthy were favored. Again, not representative of a left wing point of view. Fuhrer — Adolf Hitler — a product of extreme right wing philosophies.

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Joe: I am really not much of a government supporter, whatever label. To me, they are all evergrowing monstrosities of peoples collective will to force their neighbors into some version of either "morality" or "what’s good for them." Never met a control freak I liked, which was not a trait much liked by my mother or my ex. with regard to, for example: church going. I’d go, but I’d always bring a book. My ex was catholic, it was almost revolutionary, from the looks I’d get, to read a bible in a catholic mass.What to do though, catholic rites are boring as anything in life. The priests are usually not really offensive though. The really offensive bible thumpers are mainly midwestern protestant denominations. Real personality cult types, control freaks of high order. Funny as hell, to those not too patient with leadership types, and I’m always amazed that people take these geeks seriously. I’m equally amazed folks adore Clinton, who’s as phoney as any smiling cult type bible thumper, to my radar. Limited government to me is something about 5% the size we have now. I’d be looking for waste in it too. Found this recently – Trotsky on Stalinism and Fascism, I guess this fellow would know his stuff, though I don’t really follow this subject much. Governments all suck, in my view, these big nasty ones – the most. Trotsky,  La capitulation de Staline, p. 216. `An important part, which becomes more and more important, of the Soviet apparatus is formed of fascists who have yet to recognize themselves as such. To equate the Soviet r

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