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Yea! — claudia 565/370/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today:  http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – F.Y.I. 310:67 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers                                 RESULT   moderated group soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated passes 310:67 There were 310 YES votes and 67 NO votes, for a total of 377 valid votes.  There were 11 abstentions and 5 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated Self-acceptance for fat people. (Moderated) The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 23 Jul 1999. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. RATIONALE: soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated There are currently two unmoderated newsgroups, alt.support.big-folks and soc.support.fat-acceptance, that provide a forum for discussion of the fat acceptance movement and other issues in the lives of those of us who are larger than average. Unfortunately, those newsgroups are frequently hit by trollers and spammers posting abusive attacks against large people and endless advertisements for weight loss products.  We wish to create a new, moderated group in order to provide an environment that is free of the above-mentioned attacks and advertisements. CHARTER: soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated This group provides a supportive forum for the discussion of the personal and political goals of fat acceptance and other topics relevant to being fat. This is a support group. Abuse of individuals and groups based on their appearance is not tolerated. All self- defined fat people who are self-accepting, or are working towards self-acceptance are welcome, as are non-fat people who also favour aspects of size-acceptance. Please be aware that wherever people are building a community, controversy and conflict are inevitable. The important thing is that the controversy does not turn into personal attacks (see the policy statement for details on this issue). Moderation policy: Readers of soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated are encouraged to post messages on topics including, but not limited to, the following:      - Fat-acceptance political activism      - Events relating to fat-acceptance      - Medical research and related research papers      - Information on healthy living as a fat person (including        nutrition and exercise for large people)      - Resources for fat people (including clothes, mail order        catalogs, etc.), either newly discovered or in response to        requests for such information      - Personal anecdotes about being fat      - Sharing complaints and peeves or triumphs and achievements      - Discussion of the dangers of weight loss surgery and drugs Soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated is moderated to block the following specific types of posts: 1. Trolls 2. Off-topic, promotional posts 3. Personal Attacks 4. Inappropriate posts 5. Binaries 6. Cross posts 1. Trolls are posts that the moderators believe were posted only to    provoke members of the group into responding heatedly. 2. Off-topic, promotional post made for reasons of commercialism or    zealotry are blocked (regardless of whether such posts meet the    definition of spam by being posted multiple times). 3. Personal attacks are personal insults against members of the    newsgroup. (Note: criticisms of ideas are not personal attacks.    For example: "that’s an idiotic idea" is not a personal attack,    but "you are an utter dimwit" is a personal attack.). Specific    allegations that can’t be backed up with evidence (such as "that    poster secretly works for Jenny Craig") may be construed as    personal attacks. 4. Soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated is intended as a support    group for people who want a break from the "weight control is    good" and "anti-body-acceptance" messages ubiquitous in western    society. It is not intended as a source for definitive medical    information on weight or a forum for debate on whether weight    control is a good idea. Therefore, there are some types of    messages that are not appropriate to this forum. Messages about    these topics are not approved:    (1) Advocacy of weight (or fat) control (reduction, maintenance,        or gain) Messages advocating weight control via surgery, diet,        drugs, exercise, and other methods are not approved.        (Advocating means "promoting as good or useful.") Messages        that say "even though [weight control method] is not for        everyone, it improved *my* life" are included under this        restriction unless there is a surrounding context of fat-        acceptance. A simple statement *that* a poster changed        his/her weight is not advocacy, but going into any detail        about a particular method for weight control that worked for        the poster is considered advocacy unless the surrounding        fat-acceptance context is clear.        Discussions of the dangers of weight control and methods for        same, and discussions of negative experiences with weight        control attempts or methods, are allowed. Refutations of        scientific evidence presented by such posts are allowed if the        refutations are explicitly made in a fat-acceptance context.        Discussions of surgery, diet, drugs, and exercise that do not        advocate weight control are allowed. For example, a post about        exercising to become stronger is allowed, but a post about        exercising in order to lose weight is not allowed.    (2) Personal Ads/Advertisements for products other than those        of interest to fat or fat-accepting people. Vendors who sell        a fat-accepting product for fat people (such as clothing in        large sizes) may post something about their businesses no more        than once per month.  The preferred way to do this is to point        people to a web site. Ads may be checked by a volunteer before        being posted in order to confirm that the products are        actually for fat people.  Please use the tag word ADVERT: in        the subject line of such posts. (If you do not, the moderators        will prepend ADVERT: to the subject line.)  If a vendor’s site        does not represent what an ad leads people to believe, all        future posts from that vendor may be rejected.        The moderators’ goal is to allow companies to advertise        fat-positive products, as a useful adjunct to the newsgroup’s        primary purpose, which is discussion of fat-acceptance.        If the moderators believe that the amount or type of        advertising being posted is distracting from the quality of        the discussion, the moderators reserve the right to put        additional limits on the amount or type of advertising. This        change will be accomplished via discussion on the moderation        mailing list and will be put into place following a vote of        the moderators.        Personal ads are not allowed. Many web sites that accept        personal ads for/from big people are listed in the Online        Resources for Big Folks FAQ, or you can post them to        soc.personals. 5. Binaries, with the exception of small binaries (e.g. PGP keys), are    filtered out. 6. Cross-posting of FAQs is allowed, but any other cross-posted    messages may be returned to the sender with a request that all    other newsgroups be removed and the post resubmitted. Frequently asked questions (FAQ) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) and web site presently used by the newsgroups soc.support.fat-acceptance and alt.support.big-folks are used by this newsgroup to avoid duplication of effort. The moderation style FAQ appended below is part of said web site and is posted twice a month to soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated. Amending This Charter This charter cannot be amended because there is no widely accepted way to do charter amendment in the Big 8. Should this change, the Charter will be amendable according to the new policy. The moderators reserve the right to change the moderation policy at any time to maintain the spirit of the charter. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated Administrative contact

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There is one more vote needed.  So be sure to vote the second time

DEFINITELY, someone post the information when it happens. I voted last time and I’d hate to miss the second one. Stacy

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congrats to all of you and all your hard work! have a wonderful and safe group! Considering your active support of MarcHOLE, archived on Deja, you should be ashamed of yourself for your comments here.

Well, "Hypocracy" IS her middle name, after all. She is to be commended, however. Had MarcHole not had some fans like her, he wouldn’t have been posting scores of fat-bashing posts to a fat-acceptance newsgroup and far fewer people would have recognized the need for a moderated group. Stacy 199/134/undecided

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Wonderful news…. Jacqueline 180/158/140 It’s sad that a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – F.Y.I.

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There is no second vote on this matter. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is one more vote needed.  So be sure to vote the second time

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congrats to all of you and all your hard work! have a wonderful and safe group! rosie

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There is one more vote needed.  So be sure to vote the second time — claudia 565/370/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today:  http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –                                RESULT  moderated group soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated passes 310:67 There were 310 YES votes and 67 NO votes, for a total of 377 valid votes.  There were 11 abstentions and 5 invalid ballots. Hearty congrats to the ssfa subscribers. I’m glad to see they’ll have an unharrassed space for their discussions. —   "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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                               RESULT  moderated group soc.support.fat-acceptance.moderated passes 310:67 There were 310 YES votes and 67 NO votes, for a total of 377 valid votes.  There were 11 abstentions and 5 invalid ballots.

Hearty congrats to the ssfa subscribers. I’m glad to see they’ll have an unharrassed space for their discussions. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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