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10 Weeks – Baby Feet

Question:

You mention reasons that neglect the human rights of the woman, what about the human rights of the fetus that pro-abortionists/pro-choicers ignore on a regular basis.

The foetus isn’t a human being. Human rights apply to human beings. Try again.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… sa836284 @pegasus.cc.ucf.edu says… Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion, soc.women, alt.activism, us.issues.abortion This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) It is impossible to abort either a foetus or a baby. You can abort a pregnancy though! is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no. In what way does aborting a human sound any better/different than aborting a human being? Pardon? Exactly where have I claimed it does? He or anyone doesn’t have to say you claimed it, it is obvious not only with you but all other pro-abortionist. Why not answer your own strawman? ) There is no strawman here, you and other pro-abortionist are seen for what you really are. And you don’t like it, but continue to play word games. And in the scheme of things whether you call something a child/fetus/embyro or human/human being, or whether the people who conceived the child are its parents (or not according to you) does it actually change what happens during an abortion Nope. Itr’s still an abortion of a pregnancy. No more. No less. It is the termination of a human life Actually no. It is the premature removal of fetus (to be correct by definition). If the fetus happens to not be able to survive after removal from the womb, well that’s just an irrelevant secondary effect. Kind of like shooting someone. You’re not really killing them; you’re just merely installing 125 grains of lead into their brain. If they die, they were simply "non-viable". Hope this helps. :) Jeez….I really HAVE heard it all now…

Yes… you have heard Chris lying and misrepresenting as usual. Furthermore you lend credence to the pro-life argument since you openly compare abortion to murder. Thanks for that, helps clear things up…

I see you are not aware that you are responding to someone who is very anti-choice who was pretending to be otherwise and doings so very poorly by effectively lying about (by distortion) what pro-choice people have said! You’ve been had, Stephen… and you fell for it hook, line and sinker! )

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I have made no such distinction. Try again.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sa836284 @pegasus.cc.ucf.edu says… Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion, soc.women, alt.activism, us.issues.abortion This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) It is impossible to abort either a foetus or a baby. You can abort a pregnancy though! is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no. In what way does aborting a human sound any better/different than aborting a human being? Pardon? Exactly where have I claimed it does? Why not answer your own strawman? ) And in the scheme of things whether you call something a child/fetus/embyro or human/human being, or whether the people who conceived the child are its parents (or not according to you) does it actually change what happens during an abortion Nope. Itr’s still an abortion of a pregnancy. No more. No less. and does it make it any more acceptable? To whom? This terminology you are so fond of is little more than a smoke screen for the act of abortion itself and conveniently allows you ignore answering the real questions. Abortion ends a pregnancy. No more. No less. No smokescreen. You are one tring to complicate things by pretending the procedure kills some human being rather than simply ending an adverse medical condition that is affecting the woman’s health!

"Adverse" is a matter of opinion subject to the interpretation of the one being affected. Some women are rather fond of such condition, and enjoy being pregnant.

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I didn’t. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You abort proceses, in particular a pregnancy. As in what is affecting the actual human being that is the woman that the Pro-Lifers consistently neglect to mention. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. This is not a fact. It is not even an opinion. It is a lie. A human being is that which is born, human, and alive. The human fetus is not a human being. Acceptable? Anything that is not banned is acceptable. Might not like it, might even object to it; but unless I can justify banning it I am forced to accept it. I have been asking for many years for justification to ban abortion. I cannot accept reasons based upon lies or reasons the neglect the human rights of the woman involved. No one has been able to provide such. Care to try?

You mention reasons that neglect the human rights of the woman, what about the human rights of the fetus that pro-abortionists/pro-choicers ignore on a regular basis.

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I don’t think she does, either that or she is unwilling to comment on the real issue. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no.

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Okay, how about above where you make the distinction between a "human" and a "human being" implying that the fetus being human but not a human being makes it acceptable. Why not answer your own strawman? ) And in the scheme of things whether you call something a child/fetus/embyro or human/human being, or whether the people who conceived the child are its parents (or not according to you) does it actually change what happens during an abortion Nope. Itr’s still an abortion of a pregnancy. No more. No less.

The abortion of the pregancy is also the abortion of the fetus. Let’s use another example here – you stop a car from reaching it’s destination, by your arguments you have only prevented the car from reaching wherever it’s going, but not the people inside, and that’s just ridiculous. and does it make it any more acceptable? To whom?

To everyone, to whoever is willing to listen. This terminology you are so fond of is little more than a smoke screen for the act of abortion itself and conveniently allows you ignore answering the real questions. Abortion ends a pregnancy. No more. No less. No smokescreen. You are one tring to complicate things by pretending the procedure kills some human being rather than simply ending an adverse medical condition that is affecting the woman’s health!

Who says that this is a life threatening pregnancy?

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Jeez….I really HAVE heard it all now… Furthermore you lend credence to the pro-life argument since you openly compare abortion to murder. Thanks for that, helps clear things up…

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[...nothing much...] you falsely claimed that six people were by your failure to repost the full article to support you claim while concurrently responding to calls for you to post such evidence, you have conclusively proven that you lied about six people who post here. adding cowardice to your blatant dishonesty, you have called on those you lied about to post proof of their innocence of the lies you posted about them. this notice will be appended to each of your posts to talk abortion and alt.abortion until you have apologized for this specific lie.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Tell that to the Pro-Lifers who constantly refer to the fetus as a baby, child, human being, etc.. Tell that to the Pro-Lifers who claim that it is a baby being aborted rather than the pregnancy. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. You cannot abort a baby/fetus. If you are "really getting sick of the use of phrases like that" then why use them? You abort proceses, in particular a pregnancy. As in what is affecting the actual human being that is the woman that the Pro-Lifers consistently neglect to mention. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. This is not a fact. It is not even an opinion. It is a lie. A human being is that which is born, human, and alive.

What dictionary do you get this definition from, a government dictionary? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The human fetus is not a human being. Acceptable? Anything that is not banned is acceptable. Might not like it, might even object to it; but unless I can justify banning it I am forced to accept it. I have been asking for many years for justification to ban abortion. I cannot accept reasons based upon lies or reasons the neglect the human rights of the woman involved. No one has been able to provide such. Care to try?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sa836284 @pegasus.cc.ucf.edu says… Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion, soc.women, alt.activism, us.issues.abortion This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) It is impossible to abort either a foetus or a baby. You can abort a pregnancy though! is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no. In what way does aborting a human sound any better/different than aborting a human being? Pardon? Exactly where have I claimed it does? He or anyone doesn’t have to say you claimed it, it is obvious not only with you but all other pro-abortionist. Why not answer your own strawman? ) There is no strawman here, you and other pro-abortionist are seen for what you really are. And you don’t like it, but continue to play word games. And in the scheme of things whether you call something a child/fetus/embyro or human/human being, or whether the people who conceived the child are its parents (or not according to you) does it actually change what happens during an abortion Nope. Itr’s still an abortion of a pregnancy. No more. No less. It is the termination of a human life

Actually no. It is the premature removal of fetus (to be correct by definition). If the fetus happens to not be able to survive after removal from the womb, well that’s just an irrelevant secondary effect. Kind of like shooting someone. You’re not really killing them; you’re just merely installing 125 grains of lead into their brain. If they die, they were simply "non-viable". Hope this helps. :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and does it make it any more acceptable? To whom? It makes it acceptable to you and pro-abortionist with your word games. This terminology you are so fond of is little more than a smoke screen for the act of abortion itself and conveniently allows you ignore answering the real questions. Abortion ends a pregnancy. No more. No less. No smokescreen. Yes, smokescreen, big one. And proven too. You are one tring to complicate things by pretending the procedure kills some human being rather than simply ending an adverse medical condition that is affecting the woman’s health!

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linguistic corrections? You DO understand what the poster meant; don’t you? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no.

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This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. The baby in the womb is NOT just a clump of

"Woman? What woman?" — Ray Fischer

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Tell that to the Pro-Lifers who constantly refer to the fetus as a baby, child, human being, etc..

Because the fetus is a human being. Tell that to the Pro-Lifers who claim that it is a baby being aborted rather than the pregnancy.

Because it is a human being, we don’t use smoke screens to hide behind. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. You cannot abort a baby/fetus. If you are "really getting sick of the use of phrases like that" then why use them? You abort proceses, in particular a pregnancy. As in what is affecting the actual human being that is the woman that the Pro-Lifers consistently neglect to mention. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. This is not a fact. It is not even an opinion. It is a lie. A human being is that which is born, human, and alive. The human fetus is not a human being.

A fetus is a human being. What is fact is, you and other pro-abortionist need to hide behind words and games to accept it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Acceptable? Anything that is not banned is acceptable. Might not like it, might even object to it; but unless I can justify banning it I am forced to accept it. I have been asking for many years for justification to ban abortion. I cannot accept reasons based upon lies or reasons the neglect the human rights of the woman involved. No one has been able to provide such. Care to try?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – @pegasus.cc.ucf.edu says… Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion, soc.women, alt.activism, us.issues.abortion This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) It is impossible to abort either a foetus or a baby. You can abort a pregnancy though! is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no. In what way does aborting a human sound any better/different than aborting a human being? Pardon? Exactly where have I claimed it does?

He or anyone doesn’t have to say you claimed it, it is obvious not only with you but all other pro-abortionist. Why not answer your own strawman? )

There is no strawman here, you and other pro-abortionist are seen for what you really are. And you don’t like it, but continue to play word games. And in the scheme of things whether you call something a child/fetus/embyro or human/human being, or whether the people who conceived the child are its parents (or not according to you) does it actually change what happens during an abortion Nope. Itr’s still an abortion of a pregnancy. No more. No less.

It is the termination of a human life and does it make it any more acceptable? To whom?

It makes it acceptable to you and pro-abortionist with your word games. This terminology you are so fond of is little more than a smoke screen for the act of abortion itself and conveniently allows you ignore answering the real questions. Abortion ends a pregnancy. No more. No less. No smokescreen.

Yes, smokescreen, big one. And proven too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are one tring to complicate things by pretending the procedure kills some human being rather than simply ending an adverse medical condition that is affecting the woman’s health!

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… This terminology you are so fond of is little more than a smoke screen for the act of abortion itself and conveniently allows you ignore answering the real questions.

Pot, Kettle, Black. You abort processes, not objects. You cannot abort a child, baby, fetus, or any other noun. Anything not banned is ‘acceptable’. What justification is there to ban abortion? (And please do not lie to me.)

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No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments.

Tell that to the Pro-Lifers who constantly refer to the fetus as a baby, child, human being, etc.. Tell that to the Pro-Lifers who claim that it is a baby being aborted rather than the pregnancy. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached.

You cannot abort a baby/fetus. If you are "really getting sick of the use of phrases like that" then why use them? You abort proceses, in particular a pregnancy. As in what is affecting the actual human being that is the woman that the Pro-Lifers consistently neglect to mention. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being.

This is not a fact. It is not even an opinion. It is a lie. A human being is that which is born, human, and alive. The human fetus is not a human being. Acceptable? Anything that is not banned is acceptable. Might not like it, might even object to it; but unless I can justify banning it I am forced to accept it. I have been asking for many years for justification to ban abortion. I cannot accept reasons based upon lies or reasons the neglect the human rights of the woman involved. No one has been able to provide such. Care to try?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – @pegasus.cc.ucf.edu says… Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion, soc.women, alt.activism, us.issues.abortion This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) It is impossible to abort either a foetus or a baby. You can abort a pregnancy though! is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being. BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no. In what way does aborting a human sound any better/different than aborting a human being?

Pardon? Exactly where have I claimed it does? Why not answer your own strawman? ) And in the scheme of things whether you call something a child/fetus/embyro or human/human being, or whether the people who conceived the child are its parents (or not according to you) does it actually change what happens during an abortion

Nope. Itr’s still an abortion of a pregnancy. No more. No less. and does it make it any more acceptable?

To whom? This terminology you are so fond of is little more than a smoke screen for the act of abortion itself and conveniently allows you ignore answering the real questions.

Abortion ends a pregnancy. No more. No less. No smokescreen. You are one tring to complicate things by pretending the procedure kills some human being rather than simply ending an adverse medical condition that is affecting the woman’s health!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion, soc.women, alt.activism, us.issues.abortion This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. No such thing as an aborted baby. I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being.

You are right. It doesn’t make any difference whether you call it a fetus, a baby, or a little green martian. The main fact to keep in mind is that the pregnant woman gets to make all of the decisions about what goes on within her own body. Not me, not you, not anybody but her makes the choices. Simple, heh? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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In what way does aborting a human sound any better/different than aborting a human being? And in the scheme of things whether you call something a child/fetus/embyro or human/human being, or whether the people who conceived the child are its parents (or not according to you) does it actually change what happens during an abortion and does it make it any more acceptable? This terminology you are so fond of is little more than a smoke screen for the act of abortion itself and conveniently allows you ignore answering the real questions.

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This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks. The baby in the womb is NOT just a clump of cells. He/She is an important human being. http://www.spuc.org.uk/images/10weekabort.htm

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Agreed!

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@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu says… Newsgroups: talk.abortion, alt.abortion, soc.women, alt.activism, us.issues.abortion This picture on the link shows a picture of the feet of an aborted baby after 10 weeks.

No such thing as an aborted baby.

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I’m really getting sick of the use of phrases like that attempting to act as arguments. Whether it is a "fetus" or a "baby" does not make one single piece of difference. And the sooner you realise that and start to make sensible comments the better we’ll get on at debating the REAL issues – like in this case whether or not aborting a 10 week old baby/fetus (whichever you prefer) is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being.

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It is impossible to abort either a foetus or a baby. You can abort a pregnancy though! is acceptable given the stage of development is has reached. Or indeed whether or not aborting any fetus/child at any stage of pregnancy is acceptable given the fact it is the death of another human being.

BTW, a foetus or embryo isn’t a human being either. Human, yes, human being, no.

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